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The worst Pokémon aren't the ones that are hated, loved,

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The worst Pokémon aren't the ones that are hated, loved, remembered or forgotten. The worst Pokémon are the ones that are just. . . there.

ITT: Examples.
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>>28944403

Stantler

finneon

Finneon's pre-evo.
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>>28944403
Not every pokemon can be extremely memorable, but even these are good additions, animals or things that I didn't had before, also more options to choose in a region.
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>The worst Pokemon
Let people be happy with what they like, there's no worse pokemon, there's only great pokemon that somebody in the world love more than the others
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>>28944440
>finneon
>Finneon's pre-evo.
I forgot these even exist
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>>28944440
anon finneon is the prevo
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>>28944403
>Hating on based Walrein

Get that shit taste out of my board.
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>>28944403
>Scald could make it a decent tank in its tier

ffs GF

Also, Spinda. I keep forgetting it's gen 3 and not gen 2. Gen 2 overall was very forgettable and pretty bland.
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>>28944403
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>>28944403
I fucking love Walrein and Spheal is a cute! CUTE!
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fuck you
spheal is my favourite pokemon
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>>28944440
Finneon doesn't have a pre-evo.
Lumineon comes after.
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>>28944403
Carnivine is just there.

Although IMO an incredible disgrace to the grass type
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>>28944403
Fucking Tangela
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Hey fuck off Walrein is my nigga
Glorious bastard helped me catch Rayquaza and beat the Hoenn Elite Four way back when. It and Dewgong are probably the only Ice-types I've ever used.
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Fuck off OP, Walrein has been my bro since Hoenn.

A spheal a cute
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>>28944403
Fuck that fat piece of shit and its one hit ko moves
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>>28944512
wtf the I love spheal now
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>>28944403
Go fuck yourself. Walrein is based god. Legit hang yourself...
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>>28944555
>Cubeal
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>>28944440
Finneon IS the pre-evo.

lmao it's so forgettable even you forgot that Lumineon were the one you're reffering to.
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>>28944403
The worst pokémon is the one no one uses and no one remembers. Here's one I had to look up because I never know the name. Useless, weak, no special features, no unique typing, nothing.
On another note, you can always mention the burmy line.
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>tfw the glory of Stallrein has already been forgotten.
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>>28944700
it hurts
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>>28944403
Not really popular, neither infamous. They're just sort of there and not many people use this line themselves or see many in-game trainers with it.
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>>28944700
>>28944862
don't worry, I'm sure this gen with the 3rd 120bp 100acc fighting physical move will change things for the better :^)
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>>28944671
Burmy is cool tho
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Say my name
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>>28944957
Lord Moldybutt
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>>28944885
i cant forget hoppip because training one is a pain in the ass

>takes forever to learn an offensive move
>its tackle
>takes even longer to learn a grass move
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You are now manually remembering that Cherubi exists.

Also that Chinchou exists.
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>>28944444
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Diglet was always overlooked until this happened....
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>>28944957
Laavark
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>>28944971
>forgetting chinchou

you're mental
lanturn is amazing
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>>28944957
I like Heatmor, its Game freak's fault for making him be so forgotten.

Although I have issue with that tumor on its ass spreading like a zombie virus. Wtf was masuda thinking? Was it trying to be a clever take on ant tunnels? Why would it be on an anteater's ass?
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>>28944403
How fucking dare you op, walrein is best bro. Gtfo with your shit taste
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Exhibit A
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>>28944963
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>>28944671
I remember once posting this guy and receiving more than one reply saying this was a deviantart tier fake. There's really no reason to have this pokémon.

>>28944971
At least Cherrim has a mechanic unique to itself, despite being shit.

Chinchou and Lanturn are fucking good, also Water/Electric!
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>>28944671
Is this from Gen IV? If it is that would already explain a lot.
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>>28944403
Stantler. It's so "nothing" it's almost offensive that this Pokemon exists.

Even if it had better stats I still wouldn't use it because it's design is so bland.
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>>28945095
Oh, and Basculin and Sunflora too. It should say a lot that I completely forgot to mention these two shitmon.
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>>28944403
Shut up. He was my dragon-slayer bro in first Sapphire run. Spheal also cute as fuck.
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>>28944976
Little niggas like 0.2m and hiding in the ground, not surprising he'll be overlooked.
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>>28944945
Burmy has all those different evos and different movepools depending on which one you get, which is good, but even with all that it's kinda weak to even be used and frequently outclassed by many other pokémon. I can find a Butterfree to be more usefull than a Wormadam or Mothim.

It has a cool concept though, I'll give you that and actually praise it for the different movepools.
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>>28944979
Much better name
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>>28945095
>Sawsbuck is just a less abortive version of Stantler
I forgot it existed until now.
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>>28945083
It is, and I think I know what you mean.
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>venus flytrap
>weak to bug
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>>28945029
>not being torn apart beetween maractus and lilligant as your grass type in 5gen
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>>28944957
Heatmor. Fucking love him, cool ass anteater, great concept, but fuck man, I'm getting really tired of Pokemon that are only alright but not awesome stat-wise, that you can't get until the end of the game. There's no reason for anyone to pick one up unless you're catching them all, and you're not gonna grind that shit out 15 levels to bring it to the E4.
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>>28944671
It would have been better if they'd be Water/Fairy
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>>28945233
You mean Lilligant and Whimsicott. And no, Lilly is the best! I never expected a mono grass type from the wild to wreck hell among the elite 4 just by itself. My Lilly beat 3 of them without even having to switch or heal in the process.
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>>28945213
kek
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>>28944403
No, the worst ones ARE the ones that are memorably shitty. What a worthless fucking thread.
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The fact that Spheal us first found with its evolution is a god damn travesty. Would have been such a good three stage early route mon that grows with you and your starter. Something like whismur.
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>>28945289
Or Water/Electric since they represent neon somehow. They have no redemption though.
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>>28944403

screw you spheal had a whole minigame in pokemon pinball and it was fucking adorable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXn9f71_krU
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>>28945213
>levitate
>resists ground
Carnivine is a strange mon, but I like it
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>>28945001
its an exhaust pipe you crouton
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>>28944403
>Spheal line
>worst
You're right about one thing being worst, but it's not the Spheal line.
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>>28944671
i did not even know that was a real Pokemon until now.....
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>>28944957
More liek crymoar lolol neverever
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>>28945306
>Own Tempo
>Sleep Powder
>Quiver Dance
>Petal Dance

I love it.
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feebas/milotic

stupid pokemon tied to the worst sideactivity in pokemon so far and so difficult to find most people never bothered
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>>28944488

>There isn't a single Ice type that learns Scald
>Yet every Water type can learn the best Ice moves

It fucking hurts.
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>>28945522
And an extra slot for something like Giga Drain with big root for a pleasing "fuck you".
Lilly is based!

>>28945435
It literally serves no purpose in any game and has no saving grace at all.
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>>28945559
>Every water type gets great ice coverage
>Every rock and steel type gets great ground coverage
>Most fire types get great grass "coverage"
>Half the fucking Pokédex gets great Fighting coverage

>Most ice types can't even learn Freeze-dry, and get dick-all coverage

But why
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>>28944671
I like Finneon's butterfly wing tailfins. Lumineon is a downgrade.
Lumineon is a waste of the "butterfly fish" gag.
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>>28945655
Grass, Ice and Bug types get horrible coverage. It's fucking ridiculous at times. Pokemon like Serperior or Liligant would benefit heavily by getting a move like Earth Power to cover Fire and Steel types, but instead they're stuck with HP Ground/Fire.

Ice at least is great offensively, but Bug and Grass got the short end of the stick.
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>>28945559
Why would an ice type learn a move that involves heating something up?
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>>28946594
Ice can also burn you know. That and most Ice types are mammalian, so high body temperature. But yeah it might not make much sense.
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i was legitimately surprised when my pidove evolved into this a while ago because i completely forgot that it even existed
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>>28946429
It was supposed to be a neon fish but it doesn't even shine or has neon traces from the previous evo.

>>28946660
The most realistic evo line in pokémon history, specially if it's female.
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>>28946633
>ice can also burn you

Yeah I forgot a freezer can give you freezer burn, clearly that means they can boil water.
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>>28944440

I only remember Finneon and Lumineon exist when I ask myself WHY THE FUCK AREN'T THEY EEVOLUTIONS IF THEY END WITH 'EON'.
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>>28945435
>he hasn't caught them all
MODS
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>>28944457
its a shitty dewgong clone
there's a lot of pokemon that don't deserve to exist, like that shit pig
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>>28946747
Neon

They glow in the dark.

Thats their only gimmick.
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>>28946737
Better yet, make an Ice move that functions like Tri-Attack. 30% to either Freeze or Burn.
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>>28944403
Walrein was /this/ close to being a good Pokemon.

Then they made it water/Ice.

What a bummer. Such a cool looking pokemon.
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>>28946776
Gimmick is only in the description though.
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>>28946660
>Gen IV introduces male/female form differences. Some are subtle, some are not
>Gen V and VI only have extreme form differences
>Unfezant has distinct male and female forms
>But Tranquill always looks like a female substitute teacher, no matter what
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>>28944440
>He doesn't remember the names, type(s), and evo lines of every Pokemon

Stupid casuals
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>>28946781
Reminder that Freeze Shock and Ice Burn already exist despite both being unique to a single pokémon and each being unique to a single form of that very same pokémon.

It's sad. In the meantime we do have two versions of Scald.
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>>28946851
Have you never seen a pheasant?
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>>28944963
Nice reference desu famalam
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I don't understand. Pretty much most people list the Burmy and Finneon line as "forgotten Pokemon that are just there". I think at this point they're not really contenders for most forgettable Pokemon.

I think the elemental monkeys from Gen 5 are much worse, and better contenders for "most useless and forgettable bunch of Pokemon".
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>>28946876
>Remembering Finneon and Lumineon
Why even?
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>>28946660
Not really forgettable because it's one of the most common wild Pokemon in the game, after Boldore.
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>>28946920
>I think the elemental monkeys from Gen 5 are much worse, and better contenders for "most useless and forgettable bunch of Pokemon".

Useless, yes
Forgotten, not really, for the same reasons you used for finneon. People always remember them to bitch about them.
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>>28946737
Considering some fire types can learn Scald, yeah, why not?
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Spheal is cute as fuck though.
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>>28946920
When people speak of forgotten or worse they remember Finneon, Lumineon is found using google.

The 3 monkeys from gen 5 are introduced much earlier and are much more useful in the game that the finneon line will ever be. They also appear many times and are good to fill type gaps early on. They become rather shit later though.
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>>28944440
>Finneon's pre-evo
You're either confusing Finneon with Lumineon or there is a Pokemon so forgettable I can't remember it, even though I know the rest of the entire line.
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Clamperl and it's two evolutions
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Bonsly
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Gen II as a whole. It was so bad that most trainers use Kanto pokémon.

Stantler was found only in that grass before Ecruteak, and in the very next route you could find the much better Tauros or Miltank.

Snubbull was one of the 1% spawn rate and it was only available into one route.

Qwilfish was only used by early game fishermen (later on they'd use almost exclusively Gyarados).

Hoppip was impossible to train early on because it had no offensive moves.

Ledyba was only found with early bug catchers and other than spamming Supersonic they could do nothing.

There was Mantine, but who the hell would pick it over a Starmie or Lanturn?

Then there's the likes of Sneasel or Gligar who would be completely forgotten if it wasn't for Gen IV giving them new evolutions.
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>>28947673
>he doesnt like mantine
get the fuck out
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>>28944512
>when cute pokemon were just cute and not furbaits

sigh
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>>28947673
> hoppip impossible to train
> what is magikarp
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>>28944403
Stop! Spheal is my favorite Pokémon. And it also learns my favorite move: Ice Ball.
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>>28947673

The worst thing is Houndour (one of the best gen 2 mons) being only found in Kanto halfway through the fucking post-game.
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>>28947673
Don't forget Dunsparce ...
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>>28944488
Spinda is not really forgettable. You encounter thousands of them, when you collect soot. Also very important in PMD Sky's story.
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>>28947673

This is the reason why most Hoennbabbies here think Slugma and Skarmory are Gen 3 mons.
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>>28947844
Dunsparce is literally the best pokemon out there. GTFO
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>>28944403
That's like saying the worst idea is the one I haven't heard.
Pokemon can be categorised under a number of headings, but as Pokemon they're all pretty much 10/10 perfect since they all fill their required role perfectly - meaning there is no 'worst' Pokemon. Being memorable isn't indicative of a Pokemon's conceptual validity.
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>>28947842

I remember that, you can only find it at night, close to Celadon, it is one of the super-rare finds and it'll be at a very low level.

The only thing worse than that was Larvitar, it only appears at certain floors of Mt. Silver, is very rare and you can't cheese Repel to find it because the wilds there range from high 40's to low 50's and Larvitar appears at Lv. 15 or so.

>>28947781

The problem is that even after evolving, the Hoppip line learns mostly healing/defensive moves.
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>>28944403
I love Walrein and Spheal is adorable

Sealeo is just kinda there I guess but so are a lot of midstages
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>>28944403
Why did they have to make it so masculine?? Sealeo literally has a moustache. It doesnt make sense for it to be female.
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>>28946773
Walrein is better than Dewgong you fucking pleb
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Nobody remembers its name.
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>>28948174
Floatzel

I don't like how its float changed compared to Buizel, and it looks too bulky imo
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>>28947904
Spinda isn't gen II though
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>>28948174
I'm sorry floatzel
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>>28948174
Honestly, Buizel was one of my favorite designs of 4th gen, but I've always hated floatzel. Just something about the face and the floatie
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>>28948322
Seriously. Buizel had potential, and then Floatzel is a super punchable barely useful mon
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>>28948174
cool cry
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>>28947776
Good thing that's still how it is, huh anon?
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>>28947673
>>28947842

Don't forget Misdreavus only appearing on the last floor of mt. silver
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>>28947157
It sucks too because I think Clamperl is a legitimately good design. I would have been totally satisfied if Clamperl was a single-stage mon with better stats.
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>>28944512

TWO FLIPPER ROLLS

ONE-TWO
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>>28945051
Thank you I needed this.
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>>28944666
>devil's trips
>full house
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>>28947844
Who
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>>28944671
...I actually really love this Pokemon...
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>>28944957
Why does everyone keep posting Pokemon I love?
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>>28945029
Another one I enjoy
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>>28946660
I prefer Tranquil to Unfeazant.
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>>28949085
>>28949119
>>28949144
>>28949185


Do I have shit taste /vp/?
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Most forgettable Pokemon coming through
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>>28944671
I've used a lumineon. it actually has something it, and only it can do in doubles
it has the combination of storm drain and tail wind I needed to make rampardos 'work' (I use the term cautiously but I really did kill a lot of shit with this combo)
lumineon also has u-turn so it fills its utility niche as well as it, as an undeniable shitmon, could possibly hope to
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>>28944885
These will always be some of my favorites, though I wouldn't mind if they deleted Skiploom.
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>>28949232
All are fine in terms of design, although I do not like Finneon as much as the others despite not being bad. Finneon line is just really useless and bad implemented into the game for all kinds of reasons. The only thing it could have that would be unique is actually only unique in the dex description.
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>>28949254
wrong, for about 5 weeks it was the last pokemon I needed for my living dex. I will never forget skiploom
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>>28944403
And just like that, I know you never played Pokemon Pinball RS.
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>>28948174
WEAZEL STRONK
i always try to get one nuzlocking platinum
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>>28946851
>gen iv introduced male/female forms
Not true
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>>28949729
Nidos don't count
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>>28950074
I don't know when it started or the extent, but pikachu had a different tail by gender in emerald, gen iv made a bunch of obvious ones like hippowdon
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umm fuck you and your shit taste, walrein is amazing
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>>28944440
>Stantler
Stantler's actually really fucking good for a normal physical-centric pokemon

Persian's better from a speed standpoint but Standler gets Jump Kick which is really good for coverage
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you remember me?
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>>28950111
I don't see any record of Pikachu having gender differences in Emerald
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>>28950111
>Pikachu had a different tail by gender in emerald
>Source: his ass
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>>28950352
Monta?
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>>28945051
I heard the sound effect
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>>28945029
>tfw no evolution or anything
Shame, because I love cacti. At least there's still Cacnea...
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>>28944671
i fucking love lumineon. one of my favourite designs overall. idk why everyone forgets about it, its one of the most memorable to me
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>>28944964
But at least once it gets sleep powder and leech seed you're pretty much set forever.
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>>28945213
Sap Sipper type ability for bug when?
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>>28944403

Spheal is so cute though :< he's a pal.
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>>28948952
Clamperl is actually fine unevolved though because of deepsea tooth
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>>28945559
>>Yet every Water type can learn the best Ice moves
>>28945655
>>Every water type gets great ice coverage

The fact this doesn't learn Ice Beam might be the entire reason that this hasn't been banned yet
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>>28947673
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>>28951236
It gets enough coverage, though. Even without Ice.
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>>28947157
I only just now realized that Huntail's tail is shaped like Gorebyss's head and vice versa.
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>>28944671
The only reason people DO remember it is because it's brought up so many times as the one everyone forgets
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>>28951236
At least there's Icy Wind
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>>28944555
get that pixelmon trash out of here
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>>28944957
Magmar done right
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>>28953091
It's just bad since it has practically no use. It also appears so late in the game that you already have much better options waiting for you. It simply does nothing but exist.
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>>28948872
False, is best gimmick mon
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>>28944458
except Ambipom
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>>28944489
Fuck you underage fag Qwilfish's Sludge Bomb was insane in Pokemon Stadium 2
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I'll always remember Walrein because of that picture where it mounts Glacia like a penguin from those videos where seals rape them
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>>28944403
Seel and Dewgong exist so...
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>>28944403
Spheal and Sealeo are cute though.
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Going through a list of all Pokemon, and stopping when one strikes me as less well known:

The Mankey line has abysmal distribution, being found normally only in Kanto and one Johto route. Anyone playing casually probably hasn't seen one since HGSS/FRLG.

Seadra has been reduced to near irrelevance by Kingdra.

Ledyba is a classical shitmon with mediocre distribution, though its uselessness is somewhat memorable in itself.

For a Pokemon in almost every game since its creation, Chinchou is remarkably unremarkable.

Hoppip's distribution is also surprisingly poor, though its ubiquity G/S offsets that a little.

Girafarig is underutilized, though memorable.

Honestly, who has any reason to think of the Snubbull line on a regular basis?

Teddiursa's line is another Gen II obscurity, along with Corsola, Phanpy, Stantler, and Smoochum.

Masquerain is only remembered for ruining a novel typing.

Torkoal, Spheal, Clamperl, and Relicanth round off Gen III.

Kriketot is pretty forgettable.

Burmy, Buizel, Cherubi, Shellos too. Lots of Gen IV gimmick-mon.

Happiny is particularly irrelevant among its irrelevant peers.

You'd be forgiven for thinking Lucario is a basic Pokemon, considering its prevo is Riolu.

Carnivine is just an oddball.

Lumineon is probably the most memorably unmemorable of them all.

Mantyke, most of the Rotom forms, Shaymin (since it's an event-only legendary that will never get another proper event).

Tympole, Maractus, Minccino, Heatmor. Gen V, against all odds, did a good job showcasing its 150+ mons.

Vivillion's prevos receive none of the attention Vivillion itself receives.

I'm sure lots of people willfully forget Spritzee and Swirlix.

Binacle and Bergmite are a bit out there.
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>>28944512
Better line than popplio in every way, IMO.
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>>28954959
>naming pre-evos of memorable pokemon and pretending that counts
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>>28944478
this
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>>28947339
This guy never played Smash Bros on the Wii
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>>28955521
I mean the whole line, unless otherwise stated.
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>>28954959
I used a Granbull in my first SS run. In fact I'm using one right now in my AS team.

Granbul and Snubbull were pretty obsure. At least until Fairy typing was a thing.
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>>28944885
Swept some dude with Swords Dance Jumpluff
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>>28944403
I love great pokemon that few poeple recognize like the one you posted OP.
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>>28944514
>tfw Carnivine will never be the Bellossom to Bellsprout's Oddish
>tfw Bellsprout line and Carnivine will never get a hidden ability that makes themimmune to bug
It hurts.
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>>28944957
>tfw Heatmor and Torkoal only need slight fixes to be UU and RU, respectively
It hurts real bad.
85
97 +8
66 +4
105
66 +4
65
Add Superpower and Overheat, and any similar moves.
White Smoke now prevents self-inflicted stat loss.

Torkoal:
70 +15
85
140
85
70 +15
20
Add Superpower and Overheat, and any similar moves.
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>>28949026
Fuck off, fousey.
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>>28947673
>using any water type besides feraligatr
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>>28950668

Your obscure animu reference pleases me
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>>28944957

>Slow AND fragile

for what purpose?

White Smoke needs to be beffed to also include sell-inflicted stat drops. At least then it'd have a usable gimmick.
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>>28957764
>>28957363
Literally my post.
Great minds think alike.
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>>28948974
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>>28946679
>but it doesn't even shine
They fixed that in XY
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>>28947719
>that catch rate
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>The most generic kawaii-uguu moeblob carrying literally my mom's lei

>Will most likely be an utter shitmon

>Will most likely suffer from Chimecho syndrome and not have any evolutionary relatives I'm not forgetting Chingling exists, but Chimecho did start out as a single-form species

>Signature ability is just a more limited variation of Prankster, something that ANOTHER unevolving fairy (Klefki) already has— and even if Triage gives moves like Giga Drain and Draining Kiss priority, that's still not a whole lot Comfey would have going for itself

>Not even the first Pokemon to be a pure fairy type that looks deceptively like a grass type (Flabébé)

>Never put on anybody's team in SM team threads; people already don't give a fuck about it because there are already more appealing fairies in this gen alone

Its generation of games isn't even out yet and it's already forgettable as hell.
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>>28957261
>Bellsprout has received zero attention since Gen II's Bellsprout Tower
>The other Blue-version exclusives have received Alolan forms with total typing conversion
I want to believe
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>>28958599
GOOD JOB!
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>>28954959
Chinchou is a really great and versatile LC Pokemon. I think it's memorable for anyone who plays competitively on simulators (because everyone's been bored of OU one day and tried their hand at LC).

Granbull is forgettable but snubull isn't.

Phanpy is forgettable because seeing it doesn't really remind you of the much more memorable donphan because they're so different.

Relicanth is hard to forget because of the regi side quest.

Kriketune's cry is so memorable that kriketot has something going for it in terms of that association.

Pretty good list, I think I'd add slowking, gulpin and seel.
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>the same idiot still trying to say chinchou is forgettable

It was the first "weird" dual typing along with quagsire. But unlike quagsire everyone wanted to fish around the harbour to get one because Lanturn was fucking great and didnt looked dumb. There are tons of pokemon in gen2 that people forget because their distribution and/or catch rate were abysmal but chinchou is NOT one of them
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>>28944555
alolan spheal looks great
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Spheal and Sealeo are cute as shit, Walrein is fucking hideous though. Shame.
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>>28962992
Walrein is a cute girl
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>>28944885
when i first saw a hoppip in silver and it splashed me, i thought it was the gen 2 magikarp

i thought it was going to go fucking mental when it evolved, but it was just meh
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>>28944403
what kind of sad fuck doesn't like spheal?
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>>28961803
>But unlike quagsire
>fucking great and didnt looked dumb.

I will fight you. 3:00 PM, after school, behind the playground. Be there.
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>>28948174
every fucking kid and their friends had one in their D/P/Pt playtrhough fuck off
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I remember being really surprised to learn that Corsola existed. I guess I didn't do a lot of fishing in GSC because I picked Totodile and didn't need any Water types, but I remember using the Super Rod in Cherrygrove one day, finding a Corsola, and thinking it was super rare.

Also, as much as I personally like it, Beheeyem is pretty forgettable.
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