/pmdg/ - Pokémon Mystery Dungeon

first for someone forgot to bump the old thread and news is soon so keep it bumped

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Let's hope the trailer doesn't sink us.

>>28908272
>shitdog instead of Luxray

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As someone who's never played a MD game, where do you recommend I begin, /pmdg/? Start from the beginning and work my way up?

>>28908725
That's what I did, and probably would be best for you too. I'd also suggest completing the post when it comes down for it.

You're in for a wild ride.

>>28908725
Yes, start at Blue Rescue Team, then do Explorers of Sky (Time/Darkness don't need to be played), Gates is optional, then finally Super.

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>>28908722
Don't bully Manectric

>>28908725
Most people suggest release order, but if you want to skip right to the ones people like the most, Sky's the most popular, with a lot of features that people like. Super's my personal favorite, and has the best dungeon crawling in the series. Gates is somewhat lacking gameplay-wise.

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bamp

>>28909010
Please don't post this symbol of hate in our general.

Just finished special episode 5.
They had the perfect bittersweet ending set up with no need to bring the characters back for continued gameplay and they blew it with hand-waved nonsense. I like happy endings as much as anyone else, but this one would have been so much more profound without literal deus ex machina.

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I fucked up. Steam Cave. Send help please. NA version of Sky.

where can I find sky gummies in red rescue?

>>28910765
Sky Tower/Stormy Seas

>>28910809
sheeeeet

WAKE ME UP

>>28908272
Didn't we just have a Tribe leader edition?

>>28911437
Probably a few threads ago.

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>>28910027
I got you buddy

>>28908722
I want to snuggle up next to Luxray

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>>28912130
Thanks friend. Don't got much but I've got this.

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>>28912992
>Life Seed
Awesome

pre-trailer bump

post-trailer bump

>>28914480
Rowlet2 looks stylish as fuck
Litten2 looks weirdly cuter for some reason
Popplio2 looks like Gen 7's Braixen

>>28915250
I'm not really feeling this gen's starters so far, but i'll have to wait for the games first.

What are the odds that Z-Moves are put into PMD?

HOW IS ASH GRENINJA SUPPOSED TO WORK THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE ASH DOESN'T EVEN EXIST ASH ISN'T EVEN WITH YOU WHAT WHY HOW COULDN'T THEY CALL IT SOMETHING ELSE

Torracat is cute but
>evolving
so it doesn't actually matter

>>28915789
It's going to be even worse in PMD, isn't it?

>>28915789
it actually turns part fire not really

>>28915989
>so it doesn't actually matter
Unless it gets more/better moves or it's final evo gets another typing
That's the only raisin to evolve

>>28915989
>implying there's anything wrong with evolving
If the design's better, you evolve. If it's not, you don't.

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>>28915789
>I live in a world where Ash will be canon to PMD

>>28915703
Considering how Super worked in megas, it's very likely that they'll appear in PMD5. Maybe as one-time-use emeras or something.

>>28916333
>use ghost z-move
>it's literally a stronger ominous wind

>>28916176
no.
when is pokemon going full digimon

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>>28916453
>no stat gains
>holding the Z-Crystal or whatever activates it means no Unburden
Unless it's more than twice as strong as Ominous Wind it's useless

>>28916765
>yfw it's usable like an orb
>yfw it counts as using a move and is affected by unburden

oh if only

Honestly doubt Ash Greninja will be in PMD, since some alt forms were unavailable in Super like Vivillon's and Furfrou's, and Hidden Abilities are also unavailable. Could be wrong, though.

>>28917725
Are you sure they aren't available? They are in the game. http://psmd.skyeditor.org/Pokemon

>>28917989
>they're in game
and?
it changes nothing

>>28917989
You couldn't actually play as them, though. Same with mons having Hidden Abilities programmed in, they exist but just aren't usable. Furfrou and Vivillon also don't have alt portraits.

I didn't even realize until now how OP Eevee's Z-Move would be in a PMD game. Good thing Eevee's not a playable character anymore ;_;

I want to evolve Litten!

>>28922763
me too

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Fast board today

>>28924663
I hope the next PMD lets me be the rock doggo

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>Destiny Tower 61-65F (Ground Section)
>Dodrios appear

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>>28925316
>Poliwrath River
>Heliolisk appears

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>>28924663

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>>28924663
I like night Lugarugan, but I'd mod my starters anyway so it wouldn't matter in the end. Would make a good third/fourth teammate though.

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>tfw recruiting everything in RT's tired me out
Time to go on a vacation to somewhere relaxing, like a remote beach

>>28927151
>tfw it's not remote
>tfw some kid sees you sleeping and says "wanna make a secret club or something, random person?"

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>>28927302
>tfw they won't take no for an answer
>tfw they don't try to help me at all
this kid is already starting to be a huge jerk

>>28927463
>"Nooo they stole my thing! Please help me get it!"
>"Can't we just call the cops?"
>"No, you have to help me, there's no choice"

>>28927463
It's okay, because as annoying as she is you get to sleep with her in the postgame

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>>28927705
Well in that case, bye Mudkip, I won't miss you a single bit!
actually maybe a little

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So should I do these as I get them or what

Hold the fuck up, I haven't entered this thread in like a month or two. Theres a new PMD announced?
>>28916333
>>I live in a world where Ash will be canon to PMD
What do you mean?

What news happened guys???

>>28928803
I usually did them all after you finish the main story, and its probably better to do that. Do them in the end anon

Also if you haven't been spoiled yet, cherish this moment of your first playthrough, it will be an amazing ride

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>>28929031
PMD is actually switching out. It's the mainline series now.

Ash guest stars as Ash-Greninja.

>>28929031
>Theres a new PMD announced?
Nope.

>What do you mean?
If Ash-Greninja is not something like Cosplay Pikachu, it might as well be part of the next PMD game, probably keeping that name (since that's what SM calls it).

>>28929075
The fuck. So PMD is now canon to the world of Ash and other mainline pokemon games? What the fuck confirmed this? Why? When? So many questions anon!!!! ;^(

>>28929075
>>28929265
>>28929274
Oh shit shit i get it sorry. Infact i havent been following pokemon at all this and last month. I see that Ash is infused with Greninja now or atleast its a form. Okay then hahah.

>>28929059
Thanks anon, but this isn't actually the first time I've played Explorers. It IS the first time I'm playing Sky though, so it should be fun seeing all the new stuff.

>>28929075
I always knew they'd pick Drampa as the Guildmaster

>>28929326
Aw damn. Nothing excites me more knowing a person who's never touched a MD game play it for the first time. It really is a masterpiece ;_;

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I'm already mad just from seeing this

>>28929312
>>28929312
Ash isn't fused with his Greninja. Ash-Greninja is just a form Ash's Greninja takes in the anime. It gains an alternate appearance and powers up. And today's trailer revealed that it appears in Sun and Moon and you can use it, thus implying Ash is now canon to the games. But whether it'll appear in PMD too has not been stated yet

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>>28930948

>>28930999
Well whats this talk about a trailer coming out? Is it to do with the main games?

>>28931443
Yeah, it just came out today. Its for Sun and Moon, though. Nothing about PMD.

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>>28931144
I hope a Kabutops kills you to death

>>28931443
See for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciqAkdXQ9dw

Your favorite will never be playable without cheating. How does that make you feel?

>>28933850
I'm okay with that.

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>>28933850
Muh depression

>>28933850
it's not cheating if it was a starter in pmd once

>>28933850
Apathetic.
To live is to suffer. It's expected that nothing nice will ever happen.

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>>28933850
I play XCOM 2.

You can not comprehend the layers of cheating we go through. The depth of MAGNIFICENCE we experience every time we play.

>>28934916
I AM THE COMMANDER, CLAIRVOYANT PERFECT. NO MAN DIES IN MAY WATCH, NO ROLL IS PERMANENT, NO SECTOPOD SHALL SURPRISE US. SO I HAVE DECREED, THE SAVE SCUMMER SUPREME.

>>28908272
Hey, guys, just finished Storymode and at the Tree of Life.
Can I only evolve the minor Pokemon, or can I evolve the main character and partner?
Haven't talked to Xatu just yet.

>>28935074
You need to complete the epilogue before you can evolve yourself.

>>28935074
>evolving your starters

>>28935198
I just want to be a Wartortle, man.
>>28935108
Thanks.

>>28935198
>stop doing things I don't like

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>>28935198
This game has some damn fine soundtracks.
Give me some of some of your favorites (aside from the obvious).
Personally, it's a tie between

Temporal Spiral - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEeEz-O7vwE

Through the Sea of Time - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxEBYYHmV4Y

Tree of Life: Roots - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVmW5DdKt0c Apparently a 10 hour version, this one

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I mean we are friends, you can tell me

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>>28935950
W-well...

>>28936039
Wtf is it female?

>>28936346
Does it matter?

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>>28936368
Good point

>>28936346
I don't see the fin notch.

Bet team themes?
Turtle starters and Torkoal make a great Turtles and Co. team.

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>>28937082
Since loads of people still hate on Yellow, is Riolu and Pikachu a good match for Team Non-Canon?

They're also the shortest mons, with Raichu maxing out at 2' 7" and Lucario at 3' 11", so would they be Team Pokélet?

>>28937302
>Joltik+Flabebe+Cutiefly

Team Tiny

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>>28938228
It must be a horrible being a Tyranitar or Wailord that gets taken out by that team

>>28938373
>be wailord
>find a tiny bug in your dungeon
>it'll be ez to ko
>it has 255 in all stats
>strikes you with the fury of a thousand thunderstorms

>>28937302
>Not naming the team of the only two non-starters team Ender
Come on, man.
Also, it's complete bullshit I wasn't able to be Munchlax this time.

Hey, can Pokemon learn their tutor moves in this game, or is it just level-up and TM moves?

>>28938710
Tutor moves are available, in postgame for a boatload of money

>>28938754
How much are we talking, and where?

>>28938781
Hawlucha's shop, anywhere from 7k to 10k depending on the move

>>28938798
>7k to 10k
Holy shit.
But Goddamn if my partner doesn't have any good moves.

Okay so I found my old Sky cart and decided to start over again, and I want to play as Eevee, however I don't really want to evolve.

Will that be a problem for the post game? If not who would be best suited as a partner?

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>tfw I am now based Wartortle
Feels good.

>>28938866
Not massively. Thanks to Adaptability, your STABs will be hitting about as hard as your evolutions' super effective STABs by default. Eevee lacks strong ranged options, though, so maybe something like Gap Prober Bulbasaur for a partner?
But first and foremost, the partner should be cute. This is very important.

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Epim nenes saving the thread from page 9

>just did Chatot's expedition
>Wigglytuff is female
wat
Is this a mistranslation?

>>28941195
Yes

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Cute bump.

Still can't believe I didn't get into these games earlier. I'm 8 chapters into Explorers of Sky and having so much fun. I was Cubone Anon from a couple threads ago.

>>28939365
I chose Riolu as my partner as this was pretty much my only option of dealing with steel types and the final boss.T'was fun,if only for the fact that I always forgot to set the tactics on the boss battles to "Follow enemies" so he just kind of sat here.

>>28941924
Nice. Don't shy away from posting whatever comes to your mind while playing, and screenshots too. We enjoy that.

>>28933850
I don't really mind, since I get to try out new teams and possibly discover new favorites.

But even as I say this, I know I'll still be mad when Iwanko doesn't make the next starter roster

>>28938660
Munchlax is the SuMo pre-order bonus, so that might give him some priority in the next Mystery Dungeon

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>>28908722
>Liking edgecat

Kill yourself.

>>28946872
>implying Luxray is edgy
No wonder >evolving is a thing, anything that isn't a small happy blob is considered edgy by you people

>>28946940
Edgy

>>28946940
I like edgy designs though. It just that the main characters shouldn't evolve. An edgy design only works for a boss or something, or as a temporary evolution (which sadly isn't fixed by Mega evolutions, it just takes evolved Pokémon and makes them edgier)
So, yes
>evolving

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>>28947111
>implying most evolved starters are edgy
Different? Maybe. But definitely not edgy, unless you're talking about Empoleon's literal edges.
It's not like the starters even show any personality once the game lets you evolve anyway, at most they get one or two lines.

>>28947234
I was working under the assumption that in order to look good they need to either be cute or edgy.

does anybody have a jksm save file of psmd with a completed connection orb? thanks in advance!

>>28946872
>using edgy as an insult while saying kill yourself
Anon...

Does anybody have a chart for PMD2 that shows stats for each Pokemon when they're at a specific level without the use of Gummis or other items?

>next PMD game
>group team like in Gates, rather than just player+partner
>you get to choose who the other two partners are instead of getting locked with mons like Emolga and Dunsparce
How does this sound?

>>28950191
>later that day, anon's laifu ended because of having too much waifu

>>28950191
>standard ending happens
>you come back
>your two friends hooked up in the meantime
No sir I don't like it.

>>28950270
>decide which one to spend your time with
>standard ending happens
>except it's not standard, it's the partner you didn't choose who goes away
>and doesn't come back

>>28950327
Alternatively,
>it's a "sacrifice a teammate in order to complete the mission" episode
I'd be into that, especially if each one had a different reaction afterwards. One has survivor's guilt and takes a huge hit to their willpower while the other is furious and wants to get back out there

>>28950514
>not taking a third option

>>28952055
Go the Persona 4 Golden route. It would fit right in.

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>>28953664
Was that your team, Anon

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>>28954236
Nah but I do like team birb.

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>yfw do 7 expeditions at once

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>>28955157
>tfw just tried to do 6 at once
>just one more to do
>full bag, walk over an orb
>accidentally press use
>it's an escape orb

>>28955058
burd > birb

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>tfw go into an expedition to """check out a secret base"""
>use three elixirs, one on each of my guys
>it's not a monster house
>exit the dungeon
>tfw wasted three elixirs

>>28958918
at least Elixirs are common

>>28959003
Yeah, but I hate to waste.

After you connect with everyone, get all the treasures, explore every dungeon, Etc., and just generally complete the game, does the game randomly generate more expeditions?

>>28959382
No

>>28959382
Oh if only

>>28959382
I wish.

>>28959432
>>28959519
>>28959579
That sucks.
I guess that makes the game have a definitive end then, huh?
Playing this game is giving me hard nostalgia for the older ones, and even though I still have a ton to do, having beaten the storymode gives me the same feeling as having finished a good manga or anime does.

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Tribe leader bump for a Tribe leader thread

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;_;

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>>28963920
>losing hope
delet this

>get to Northern Desert
>no interruptions from constantly being damaged by sandstorms
I didn't realize how much care was put into improving Explorers in Sky. This is great.

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>>28963920
Here you go

>>28964763
Weather was the main reason why I chose Psyduck over Wooper, Poliwag or the starters as my Water type mon in Time. Being interrupted every five steps was extremely annoying.

>>28963920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpq7uqFca_8

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>"Hey partner, I think we should jump in this potentially fatal quicksand."
>"J-Jump? In there? Jump in the quicksand? H-How do you know it's safe? Did you use the Dimensional Scream to be sure?"
>"No, but I have a good feeling about this. Just trust me."
>"Okay!"
>
why is this allowed

>>28966219
>The risk I took was calculated
>But man, am I bad at math

>>28968608
I'm disturbed, yet intrigued

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Pikachu looks so good with the scarf.

>>28964789
What's this supposed to do?

>>28970377
Make you ask questions.
You fell right into his trap.

ha ha i hate myself

>>28970870
ha ha I hate you too ha ha

>>28946872
>anything with black coloring is edgy

>>28964763
>tfw golden weather looplet in Super
feels good

Guys, how would you feel if the next PMD has Super's gameplay improved, Sky's content and Gates' story , in terms of quality not just copy pastes.

>>28978250
>super's gameplay improved

that better fucking mean no breaks and no 5 damage A attack

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>>28978301
I was thinking about that and both recruitment methods plus infinite missions and no region lock rescues. Hell, maybe online rescues

>>28964789
wtf I hate BitterMatter now

>>28978250
as long as the story isn't about fighting literal negativity anymore I'm all for it

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Slow thread these days, huh?

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>>28973231
>tfw constantly forgetting that sandstorms and hail don't run on Explorers' rules
>tfw constantly near death as a result

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should i try to play through sky while it's corrupted?

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>>28984246
It probably won't end well, but sure

>>28984246
That sounds like a great plan! How did you get in that situation?

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>>28984483
got the vinesauce corruptor, messed around a bit, and now I've been trying to find various corruptions that cause wacky effects but don't break cutscenes. I think I've found one.

>>28984569
So THAT's how treasure chests are made.

>>28984569
I did something similar to that pic once, by swapping the files in the rom itself. It changed the bubbles to stuff from the title screen I think. I don't really want to look for the pics (or the rom) if I still have them, but they were nothing special anyway.

>>28985739
>PMD: E x p l o r e r s o f A e s t h e t i c s

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he got eyebrows now

>>28987037
Found any good music or text corruptions yet?

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>>28987974
a few instruments get changed or the music starts playing over itself every now and then, and sometimes names in dungeons get turned into garbled message text, but other than that, nothing too interesting has happened yet.

is there a section to download jksm saves in here?

Okay so i just picked up Super MD and i gotta know. Are you able to recruit buddies the old fashioned way by killing them in a dungeon or is it entirely done through this bond system?

>>28988878
It's all through the Connection Orb system.

We know, it sucks.

>omnious wind
>silver wind
>shadow ball
I need a fourth move for my drifblim

>>28989768
minimize obv

>>28989768
>playing on baby mode
Minimize

>>28989768
>silver wind

Drifblim can't actually learn that right?

>>28989897
>Drifblim can't actually learn that right?
>He doesn't know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNkrF43SZEU

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How the hell am i supposed to get there?
it's my first treasure mission

>>28990685
Using a Pokémon that can walk through walls

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Am I under-leveled? I'm just outside Temporal Tower and at level 29, while my Partner is level 28.
Should I grind?

>>28990921
You'll probably be fine, as long as you pack enough useful items.

>>28990921
why did dialga make a tower that looked like himself

>>28991070
because its cool
why does your base look like you in rt

>>28991099
why WOULDNT you want to live in a giant vulpix's head

>the pokemon impersonating the legendary was Solosis
>not Zorua or Ditto
This still bugs me so much.

Also, what are the weakest starters to play through PSMD with?

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>>28991299
see the bottom three
reason: nomoves

at least torchic gets a somewhat decent set after move tutor access though, chiko and snivy never really get anything good t b h

>>28991299
>weakest

Probably Chikorita and Torchic. Snivy at least gets Growth

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>>28991045
Alright, thanks. Luckily I have a lot of stuff. Have a cute Vulpix.

>>28991070
Wow, I only just realized that when I looked at the picture again. I'm slow.

>>28991334
>>28991359
Thanks, anons. My partner in my last run was Chespin, who steamrolled the game with Pin Missile.

I'll go with Chikorita and Torchic for the next run.

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>>28991591
Chespin is a fun ride
I'm replaying with a Buizel custom starter thanks to save editing anons here and it's almost as good - drain punch just makes Chespin completely invincible if it can get into attack range, but swift swim hydro pumps are really silly

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>>28981764
There's just nothing to talk about anymore outside of the occasional rescue. Everything has been spoiled and discussed to death by now. Custom starters are a thing, yeah, but it's still fundamentally the same game with the same story that everyone knows. Unless news of a new PMD game arises (which, let's be real, probably won't happen till gen 8 when there's more content) /pmdg/ may forever remain slow or eventually rot away. Hell even news of some dumb fangame may be enough to speed things up.

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>>28991844
We could always act like other currently dead game generals and be fueled by waifus, memes and fan content or not because that's probably cancerous

>>28991844
>let's be real, probably won't happen till gen 8 when there's more content
It's happening in two years from now.

>>28991844
>Hell even news of some dumb fangame may be enough to speed things up.
I remember there were at least a few instances of folks saying they were working on or discussed working on fangames, has anything ever come of those? Did anyone discussing stuff ever actually group up and start anything?
You guys could probably make a basic fangame yourselves as long as you didn't aim too high. If you got a simple engine to work with, like game maker, you could probably make a passable fangame fairly easily. It's taken me about six months in assembly to get anywhere notworthy, but I'm sure if you didn't use some low level shit on ancient hardware, and actually had some motivation, you could probably build a basic working engine in that same time. All you have to do is try.

>>28992392
>It's taken me about six months in assembly to get anywhere notworthy, but I'm sure if you didn't use some low level shit on ancient hardware
I'm curious. What were you trying to do?

>>28992566
Make a PMD fangame for the Gameboy color.
Technically, I'm still trying, but I'm lazy and progress is slow. I also probably won't finish it, which is why I don't really talk about it. I've only ever mentioned it once before.

>>28992671
Nice. Have you considered sharing it even if incomplete? I hope one day I'll know assembly. That sounds like one of the kinds of thing I'd try to do with that knowledge.

>>28992744
The compiled game or the source code?
If I finished it I'd certainly share the game, and I could probably share the current compiled rom just fine as is, but I don't think I'd be comfortable sharing the source code.

>>28992825
I meant either the source or both, but I guess it's fine if you don't want to.

>>28992869
I could upload the current rom to dropbox or something if you or anyone else just want to look at the progress, but there isn't a lot to do aside from walk around dungeons and test rooms. Enemy AI and combat is still in the basic stages and I've been fucking around with optimizations to other shit lately.
If you just want to look at gameboy source code, I won't share mine, but there are de-compilations of the mainline gb games on github.

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NO NO NO, DON'T DO THIS TO ME.

When does Explorer's of the Sky get good? I've heard that's the best one but I've made it to the expidition camp and it mostly just seems boring so far. It's my first PMD by the way, if that makes a difference.

>>28993406
NO MY SLICE OF LIFE STORY IS GOOD AND NOT BORING
ok well keep playing ok? i won't spoil you anything

unless you were talking about gameplay, in that case the answer is: postgame.

>>28990810
and how do I get to control that pokemon?

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First good audio corruption I've heard so far.
https://clyp.it/zjshgodq

>>28995933
Goddammit, I thought that Skype notification wasn't part of the recording at first. Faked me out real good.

>The following pokemon are motivated
>Talonflame
>Aerodactyl
>Unown-W

Today was a good day

>>28993918
Most ghosts can do it. You need to reach the postgame.

>>28993918
You don't really have to control them, just manipulate them into moving onto the treasure, usually by making them wait.

>>28991844
>Unless news of a new PMD game arises (which, let's be real, probably won't happen till gen 8 when there's more content)
I don't get this. A new PMD game doesn't need a whole lot of new content from the mainline games besides some new mons. The rest, like the world, plot, and gameplay features, can be made without completely relying on the mainline.

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love you all

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>>29002412
I love everyone, too!

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>>29002412
>>29003149
I want to marry /pmdg/!

>>29000504
Probably within 1 year, we might hear rumbles of it. Spike Chunsoft has a lot of games on their table, but Pokemon Mystery Dungeon is a huge boon to them as a developer, since it's basically a huge cash injection to them. Looking at some sales, despite being a spinoff title, PMD actually outsells most of their original games.

And judging by how the Chunsoft stories go (fugitives, suicide, DESPAIR), PMD probably shares the drugs with the other games.

Oh, and a guest appearance by the SMT team designing the Salamance encounter.

reminder that you can have a salamence before leaving preschool

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>>29004661
HE POSTED IT

THE MADMAN

>>29004661
reminder that rescue team gives you a completely broken game breaker as a starter; PMD confirmed shit series

PMD Salamence isn't even good

How are the non-pokemon games from mystery dungeon series?

I was thinking about playing Shiren the Wanderer.

>>29005578
Play it. And post about it here.
It's great. Expect it to be way harder though, at least if you play the first one. The third one is probably easier, it seems it's pretty much the same as PMD. I have yet to play it though, I want to complete the original first.

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>>29002412
>>29003149
>>29003945
I want to hold /pmdg/s hand.

I want to sit on /pmdg/'s face

>>29005662
l-lewd

>>29005700
I want /pmdg/ to sit on my face

>anon later died after their skull was crushed under the pressure of 69 asses

>>29005611
Yeah, the first one in DS, because I can't really instal games in my Wii anymore.

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cutiefly starter for super pokemon mystery dungeon: arcade edition when

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>>29005662
>implying hands

>>29005985
i'll just put my hand on your face

>>29005749
>wii's storage space is a pitiful 512MB


What were they thinking? Just having Adventure Squad eats up like a fifth of that

>>29006016
I agree. It's extremely dumb. The Wii not being powerful isn't nearly as much of a problem as the limited internal memory is.

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Welp. Now's probably a good time to try out some of those special episodes.

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>no option to wish for something good
Kind of a missed opportunity there

And wow does playing as Bidoof suck. Just to beat Jirachi I had to run to a corner and hurl Gravelerocks at him until he woke up.

All of the special episodes are going to be like this, aren't they.

>>29007324
Special episodes are a missed opportunity gameplay-wise. They could have tried to find a way to structure them like traditional roguelikes.

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Not much going on in this episode, but it was fun, I guess. Sunflora's cute.

>>29007715
Agreed. Being able to carry over items from the main story removes a lot of the challenge and immersion, IMO.

>just as I complain about being able to bring items, Igglybuff's episode prevents me from doing so
OK

>>29008699
I think it lets you later on.

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>>29008728
this is now not OK

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>Parabolic charge is an AoE lifedraining move
>It's as dumb as it sounds
>Only 2 mons get it

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Armaldo ;_;7

Probably the best story so far. It kind of bugs me that we never learn what he did to become a criminal, but I guess it doesn't matter in the end.

The fluctuation in difficulty in these episodes are really weird. Igglybuff's and Sunflora's episodes were pretty easy, despite one being a baby and another having (supposedly) serious type disadvantages. Kind of a shame that it was literally just Bidoof's so far that was hard.

>>29010315
Bidoof's one is the only actually hard one just because he's an underleveled fuck. Fuck hail as well.

so /pmdg/ fangame when

>>29011358
wen u mek it

>>29011472
ok then lets get started
everyone get in here, state what you can do and lets gather

>>29011503
I can sit on my ass and watch everyone else do all the work and suggest shitty ideas that don't improve the game.

>>29011847
you can write then.
ill wait a few more posts

>>29011503
I can do nothing, because I have no talent.

>>29011876
There's probably a few Mystery Dungeon type tile systems out there.

The most important part would be the story. What kind of PMD would you want?

>>29012070
One where you explore dungeons, beat up the natives, and take their loot.
And mystery dungeon type tile systems aren't hard to program, you could easily make your own system as long as you know some basic programing and use a language that isn't ass to work with.

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>>29012044
surely you can write better than chun-fucking-soft.
nevermind zero escape of course
still waiting
>>29012070
I know how to pull off a tile system, and I can probably grind my way through random dungeon generation a la rescue team. Probably.
And I know how to state-machine the crap out of everything to solve the engine problems.


So I do have to ask what kind of PMD does everyone else want.
I mean, you can see that some people like things like friend areas, others like something like paradise, others like super's disjointed continents. It's hard to decide too if maybe just wandering around a PMD game through series of dungeons could be worthwhile. Or whether we could use a hub.

Of course, that does strike a "so let's write something"

Issue with that would be to avoid the 12 year old edge writers and mary sue lovers. I don't want to have someone beheaded because that's what "adults" want out of a game. That's a start.

>>29012217
I think a simple shiren style game would be best for a first attempt. With one main dungeon that you have to go through, a smaller selection of mons, and only a basic plot, so you have the opportunity to polish the base gameplay before moving on to a fuller PMD game. That's what I plan to do with mine, if I finish it.

>>29012217
It's pretty hard to out edge PMD anyways, with it's depression and suicides. They really don't get the credit for how dark they actually are.

>>29012375
A traditional DnD plot would work best.

"We hired you to clear out this Mystery Dungeon. You get a discount at the inn and get to keep/sell what you find, good luck."

>>29012498
>It's pretty hard to out edge PMD anyways
Sure, but the point is that it's presented in a way that doesn't make you cringe too hard.
>We hired you to clear out this Mystery Dungeon.
So you all meet in a bar cafe...
That actually sounds like a fun idea.

>>29012217
I've never seriously tried to write before, but I guess it wouldn't hurt to try at least once in my life.
If I can't even do that well then I can just beta-test or something.

Building off of that other anon's suggestion to keep it simple, if there's any out-of-dungeon locations it should just be like RT; a single hub and JPEGs for fields. Nothing fancy, but still serviceable.

>>29012548
Once you get the basics done, you can expand. Give merchants stories, add random NPCs to the town. But that would come later.

>>29012560
Never too late to start. Just like the idea here, keep it short and simple.

>>29012375
Well, maybe we could join you in what you're doing to not be redundant.
As long as your tools are not ass.
>>29012560
Surely you can come up with "jobs" to serve as the main plot, maybe.
Start off simple: an antagonist and how it's presented. Its goals, and if sentient, more than the dark matter anyway motivations.

Are there any rulesets for playing as pokemon in a tabletop RPG setting? Mystery Dungeon would work pretty well as a setting, I'd imagine. Just need to rethink how encounters work.

I'm working on a completionist state of SPMD, clearing all areas and befriending all Pokemon. I don't want to know what there is if so, but if so is there any reward for completing either of these goals?

>>29012642
I've done PMD RP before, though mostly freeform. If you're with players that don't know much better just keep the dice rolling and only kill on bad rolls on poor decisions.
>>29012646
You get to have a reason to reset.

>>29012642
Pokémon Tabletop United has rules for Mystery Dungeon games, as well as splats for other types of settings. Pretty math heavy, as a warning.

I like PokéRole and it's MD expansion, but some people don't like it. I would steal some of the fluff from it, and the tile system is great. USE THE TILE SYSTEM FOR EVERYTHING

>>29012636
My tools are ass, and I also don't work well with groups due to a shitty work ethic. It'd probably be better if you guys made your own separate one in a modern engine.

>>29012630
>>29012636
Well if we're starting simple, then why not a rival team like Skull or Meanies? Something basic that's made to be hated.

I also thought about Hoopa being an antagonist, goofing around after his shoddy treatment in Super, if that works.

>>29013203
Well, if the concept is to get to the bottom of that super long Mystery Dungeon, what purpose would they serve?

>>29010315
The fourth one gimps you with the shittiest move sets imaginable if that counts for something.

>>29012717
Ah, too bad.
>>29013203
The hoopa idea could be ridiculously cute if properly handled.
>>29013229
They're the cause of why they go to the bottom of the super long MD.

>>29013229
Maybe the rival team's also been given the same task as you have? You both start off inexperienced, and as you progress through the dungeon you end up having to fight them at regular intervals, with them getting more powerful with every fight. I realize that it's basically Blue/Gary/every mainline rival ever, but it's the best I can think of right now.

Hoopa does... I dunno. Probably summons legendaries for fights instead.

>>29013203
If the story is going to be kept simple, it'd probably be better to not have a rival team.
When I suggested a simple plot, I meant just something barebones to give you a reason to be exploring the dungeon in the first place, like with rogue and it's amulet being the end goal, or shiren and his goal to reach the golden land or whatever. Something simple so you don't give yourself too much shit to do and get overwhelmed trying to make the perfect fangame, and then end up not finishing it.
I think one of the shiren GB games's plot involves you exploring a dungeon to rescue some kid or something, so something like that, or to obtain some treasure that's at the end of the dungeon would probably be fine for a first attempt.
You can worry about fancy shit like rival teams and characters when you get a basic engine built.

>>29013453
Simplicity is not really compromised by having someone be the cause instead of something, if you ask me.
Of course, I do agree with the notion of keeping it simple for this first round.
If we were to be successful, that's a net win for everyone.

>>29013453
>I think one of the shiren GB games's plot involves you exploring a dungeon to rescue some kid or something
I don't know what the plot exactly is, but having played the beginning of the first GB game I can tell you that's just like the first "mission". You get to a certain floor and then go back to the entrance. After that I think you can do the whole dungeon. I don't know what you're supposed to find at its end though.
Also I think I read something that I have no idea how it's executed and is probably a spoiler: the people in the village become monsters at night

>>29013891
Oh really? I didn't manage to get very far in them since I don't speak jap, so I can't understand jack shit and only vaguely understood what was happening.
The few attempts I made I died due to stupidity because I couldn't remember which items were which.

>>29014043
The same happened to me. I only paid attention to the descriptions if they said HP and recognized rice balls, and similar stuff.

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>>29013203
>>29013417
>>29013442
>>29013453
How about this:

You are a Human turned Pokémon, and you get the strangest feeling that the answer lies at the bottom of a super long Mystery Dungeon. Coincidentally, the town will pay you to clear it out.

The Jerk Team might double as antagonists, putting obstacles in your way, and a solo play rescue mechanic. If you fall unconscious, they save you but mock you.

Hoops is the one that summoned you. He does things for the lulz/evulz/plot.

In case we need to spice up the plot, rumor has it that the medicine to some disease is also at the bottom of the Mystery Dungeon, and some Pokélord wants you to keep going, down, as you seem to be unaffected.

Marcus shows up at a few parts to give you pointers and to make you feel important and destined, but if pressed, will confess that you were already there and ran with it.

>>29015258
*Arceus
Darn you Google Autocorrect

>>29015265
No, wait, we can roll with that. What if this Arceus is also a human-turned-Pokemon who was named Marcus originally? And perhaps the real reason he's helping you is so he can learn how to return to the human world and turn back to normal too, since he dislikes being a Pokemon (even if he gets to be Arceus), and he thinks only you can get to the bottom and find the answer so you can both go back to your original world.

And maybe he betrays you at the end and tries to take the method of returning home for himself, thereby leaving you behind in the Pokemon world without any other way to escape. Or maybe that would be too edgy or something, I don't know. I'm just making this up as I go along.

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sure looks like mt. bristle, right guys?

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Someone made a PC PMD game. It's 30F long and is very playable(though Slugma is fucking bullshit).
http://reliccastle.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=1163

>>29015258
>>29015359
I dunno, seems too blatantly fanficy to me. why would Arceus, who is basically god, care about some random human? I personally, don't think the player even needs to be human for this first attempt.
Also, if you guys are going with sprites, then someone would have to make a hoopa and Arceus sprite, since neither exist in the 2d games.

That medicine bit is good though.
You could have the mayor of some small town put out a request for someone to reach the peak of a mountain that has a rare herb someone in the town needs.
With that simple plot, you wouldn't be locked to a specific pokemon for plot reasons, and could have rivals in the form of other teams trying to get to the herb before you. If the reward was lucrative, it could justify the rivals being jerks instead of them being assholes just for kicks.

>>29015492
Looks like some blue and gray squares to me.

>>29010315
>tfw just got Armaldo in Super

>>29015639
I used Arceus because I had that picture. It's mostly to give the story some midrange motivation, a reason to keep the story going.

1. Maybe the solution to being turned into a Pokémon is there
2. These guys are challenging my money making scheme
3. This guy is a jerk
4. I'm the Chosen One*!
*Maybe, sort of, kind of
5. I need the medicine to help people I care about

If a PMD game got a Mteacritic score of 80+, would you see it as reviewers finally coming around or take it as a sign that the game is trash?

>>29016267
It would be a sign that they played the game at all, which is worrying in other ways

>>29016267
What scores have they all gotten so far?

>>29016323
Super has the highest with 69 and I think Sky has the lowest with 54.

>>29016267
>reviewers
>playing the game longer than a couple hours

PMD's never pick up that quickly

>>29015258
>>29015359
>>29015639
Yes, it is quite fanfic-y but the idea of "get down to the bottom (haha, is that a pun) to figure out why you got there" sounds fairly solid.
"Get an herb for needs" works alright too.
Both fall fairly in line with the regular PMD stories.

>>29015492
>>29015699
Those are the "Test Dungeon" graphics. It looks pretty cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKYuDd-Q464

>>29015609
Wait what? I'm surprised, this came out out of nowhere and looks cool from the screenshots

>Pokémon movesets are limited when on wild Pokémon, making their gimmicks in-dungeon very clear, challenging the player to respect them and come up with a counter-strategy.
This could be a good idea. I want to see how it's handled.

>>29015609
>single dungeon with Shiren-like gameplay
>barebones plot of "get to floor 30 to become the grand master"
>on top of that it throws in some new twists to gameplay, like new items and a new recruitment method
Isn't this demo basically what we were talking about and more? Now it just feels redundant for us to make our own fangame.

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>>29019901
Yeah, but it's not made with the /pmdg/ love.

Want a PMD game on the NX!

>>29019983
That's true. Even if it's not the best game, we'd still have fun making it together. Plus it'd give us something to do while we wait for the next game.

See y'all in the next thread.

>>29020740
this is the last thread
/pmd/ is dead

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How's this for a PMD ending:

Xerneas turns everyone into a tree. The end.

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>>29020889
Not on my watch!

>>29021174
>>29021174
>>29021174