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Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread

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Welcome to the Pokémon Anime Discussion Thread. Talk about new episodes, old episodes, upcoming episodes, anime Pokégirls, sub releases, discuss, speculate, bitch and moan, etc., etc.

>NOT-SHIT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/#PocketMonstersXYSubbed

>Citronic Gear On's music rips:
http://pastebin.com/C2gkFb0g

>Newfag Airing/Viewing Order Guide:
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55

>Sun and Moon Anime Preview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_2ADXIyEa4

>Movie 19: Volcanion and the Ingenious Magearna [Jul 16th]
http://www.pokemon-movie.jp/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtBDuxrcS0
Excerpt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMWw5xiwW8

>LET'S GO SEE GEKKOUGA IN THE THEATER! SPECIAL GEKKOUGA VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aj-34tfTiqo

Next episode:
>XY&Z44: We Start at Zero! Clemont's Decision!! [Oct 6]
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/pokemon_xyz/trailer/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzG0rTOge5I

Upcoming episodes:
>XY&Z45: One Last Battle with Ash! Serena's Choice!! [Oct 13]
>XY&Z46: Farewell, Ash Greninja! Xerosic Strikes Back [Oct 20]
>XY&Z47: A Zero With No End! Till the Day we Meet Again!! [Oct 27]

Shit people will ask:
>Is this season good? I haven't watched the anime in [x] years and-
Yes, it's fucking good, just start watching it already.

>What's the point of watching it anymore?
To enjoy the ride.

>Will Serena win da Ash?
Never give up until the very end.

>Muh subs when?
[PM] is subbing XY&Z. Their releases can happen any time of the week.

Old thread:
>>28871839
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XY&Z39 SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_039_The_Flare_Gang_Attacks!_The_Zygarde_at_the_Prism_Tower!![H264_720P][6028B300].mkv.torrent

XY&Z22 POKÉTV SEGMENT SUBS:
http://pocketmonsters.edwardk.info/[PM]Pocket_Monsters_XY&Z_022_Serena_Becomes_Satoshi!_The_Ultimate_Pikachu_Showdown!!_PokeTV_segment[H264_720P][865291B9].mkv.torrent

XY&Z40 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=845935

XY&Z41 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=847987

XY&Z42/43 RAW:
http://www.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=850249

NEXT: POCKET MONSTERS XY&Z44: WE START AT ZERO! CITRON'S DECISION!! (OCTOBER 6TH)
>The Citroid has lost all its memory after being repaired!? Citron has mixed feelings about this, but then a challenger arrives at the Gym. What did Citron and the Citroid discover during this Gym battle?

>Summary:
>The incident caused by the Flare Gang has come to an end, and Miare City has started turning back to normal, little by little. Citron has repaired the Citroid, but got mixed feelings when it turned out the fixed Citroid has no memories of the past. And then one day, a boy named Alba comes to ask for a Gym battle against the Citroid. Since the Citroid has just been repaired, Citron is unsure about whether it's a good idea to accept Alba's challenge, but...

>Voice Cast:
>Rica Matsumoto: Satoshi
>Ikue Ohtani: Pikachu
>Mayuki Makiguchi: Serena
>Yuki Kaji: Citron
>Mariya Ise: Eureka
>Megumi Sato: Dedenne
>Megumi Hayashibara: Musashi
>Shinichiro Miki: Kojiro
>Inuko Inuyama: Nyarth
>Yuji Ueda: Sonansu
>Kensho Ono: Alan
>Mikako Komatsu: Manon
>Hiroshi Tsuchida: Platane
>Chinatsu Akasaki: Alba
>Noriko Shitaya: Yancham
>Hitomi Nabatame: Harimaron
>Kensuke Sato: Rentorar
>Kenta Miyake: Maaiika
>Miyako Ito: Pumpjin
>Yuka Terasaki: Hari-san
>Kiyotaka Furushima: Elezard
>Unsho Ishizuka: Narration
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UPCOMING SHIT:

POKÉMON NO UCHI ATSUMARU? EPISODE 53 (Oct 9th)

XY&Z45: One Last Battle with Ash! Serena's Choice!! (Oct 13th)
>As Serena is torn on what she should do next as a Performer, Ash proposes a Pokémon Battle. What will Serena do!?

XY&Z46: Farewell, Ash Greninja! Xerosic Strikes Back (Oct 20th)
>Everyone thought the Team Flare incident was over. But Xerosic, who escaped during it, has once again started making a move! Ash and Ash Greninja challenge him to a fight to stop his terrifying ambitions!!

XY&Z47: A Zero With No End! Till the Day we Meet Again!! (Oct 27th)
>Ash and the others head to the airport to set off on their new adventure. But Dedenne doesn't want to say goodbye and ends up running off.

XY&Z -MOVIE VER.- (SATOSHI)
http://www.mediafire.com/download/6d63pkrvpvcqry3/XY%26Z_MOVIE_VER_%28Both_Sizes%29.zip

THE PIKACHU SONG (PIKACHU)
http://www.megafileupload.com/7hw9/The_Pikachu_Song.m4a

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA SOUNDTRACK
http://www.filedrop
per.com/movie19soundtrack

VOLCANION AND THE INGENIOUS MAGEARNA MANGA
CHAPTER 1: http://imgur.com/a/PAdz8
CHAPTER 2: http://imgur.com/a/cGC71
CHAPTER 3: http://imgur.com/a/l6bs1
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Long hair Serena best Serena.
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>that shitty op pic
Thread already starts bad
And we even got a preview yesterday
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>>28879318
>>Will Serena win da Ash?
>Never give up until the very end.

>implying I ever cared
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>>28879381
Doesn't matter both are gone
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>>28879414
>t. Amourshit
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>>28879414
Picture is cute!
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One fucking month for Sun/Moon
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>>28879044
cota_pika a best
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>>28879577
>kill me
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Does anyone have the scan of where Adamant got the episode title and description for the airport version? I want to see the wording on it.
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So...why Alan and Lizardon doesn't wear the mega item in the preview?

Doesn't want to use for the moment the borrowed power he got from Furadari?
Or...?
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how did this thread react to >volt plays when the double special aired
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>>28880019
>he gives both his Charizardite and Mega Ring to Ash.
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>>28880038
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>>28880046
>this kills the frog.
Kanto episode is Ash getting Megazard-X
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haven't been here since Ash lost the league.

those episode titles... Not only is Serena leaving, but Ash Greninja won't be a thing? What the fucking fuck were these idiots thinking, they ruined everything. I swear to fucking god if I get my hands on the writers I will ground pound them and let a nasty fart rip in their faces, they will have to keep sniffing my bum hole and I will tear off their toe nails. They think they can get away with this but no, the physical pain is nothing through the mental pain they have caused by dragging things on and making it look like there was hope then crashing my world down. These fucking fuckers will get what they have had coming to them for a long time. I will go Anon-Greninja on their asses and torture them for weeks in my chamber. I will feed them and beat them and repeat. I hope they are happy in what they have done, because it is the last thing!
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>>28880063
>What the fucking fuck were these idiots thinking
Money
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>>28880058
what is that gif from
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>>28880063
But I agree with you in a way, even though this looks like pasta quality
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>>28880094
XYZ38
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>>28880063
good pasta

though it's actually amusing how they spent so much time introducing something only to scratch it entirely, and that's coming from the top 1 pokémon in japan
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>>28880063
t. Flabby Tubby who lives on the basement.
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>>28880059
>no DORAGON KUROU/BURASTO BAAN

it's shit
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>>28880094
From the start of the Ninja Arc
Nihei Venusaur vs Sanpei Greninja
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>>28880128
>Mega Seismic Toss.
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>one more month of this thread at this depressing state if it doesn't get worse
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Your days are numbered, /padt/.

In the end, we won. Repent, for the end is nigh.

>>>/qa/706294
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>>28880046
>Ash gets Mega-Y instead
and the normies celebrate because all they remember is that Ash's most powerful pokemon is Charizard.
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>>28880179
More like /po/'s and /n/'s days are numbered.
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What will be the gimmick for gen 8th? I'm still waiting for fusions
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>>28880222
>XYcuck already looking past 3 years because MUH AMOUR
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>28880234
what?
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>>28880248
>XYCuck playing dumbfounded
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>>28880222
We're not gonna abandon the Kizuna Genshou.
Next is Satoshi-Lugarugan and Satoshi-Mukuroh3.
Also some opponents like Gladio will have the Kizuna Genshou.
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>>28880215
More like
>/vp/ merges into /v/ or /vg/
>/padt/ migrates to /a/
>/a/'s speed kills it
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>>28880284
I just want fusions ;_;
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>>28880019
>Last rematch
>Zard vs rat, ultimate genwun
>Alan ends up absolutely annihilated, as Pika "Bane of pseudos" Chu rolls around in shining crown of thunders

Imagine the volume of collective "FUCK YOU TOO" from everyone who'd fallen for League bait.
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>>28880328
>not having DORAGON KUROU beating the rat for more Alan wanking
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>>28880351
>he commands DORAGON KUROU
>Ash uses the momentum it provides to bounce with Iron Tail
>I CALL IT DORAGON KUROU TOMB

also, I'm sure having Ash win against Alan now be an amazing way to rub salt into the wound
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>>28880328
>yfw this is when it relearns Volt Tackle
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>>28880432
>Trigger not only people who had to suffer trainwreck of late XYZ, but also those who survived Unovapocalypse
Hoo boy, I want it.
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did they fuck?
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>>28880376
Every single outcome would be pouring salt in the wound:
>Pikachu beating Zard on an irrelevant battle
>Zard beating Pikachu so that Ash looks more pathetic
>not having them battle at all because fuck you, enjoy The Alan Show
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>>28880452
>he also does the Volt Tackle + Iron Tail combo
>literally 100% of the fandom goes bonkers
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>>28880459
Seeing how Yashio likely lobotomized her into becoming the perfect idol. Maybe?
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>>28880459
How successful would an Alan/Elle child be?
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i would actually consider buying this if they made an inkay/pikachu toy
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>>28880646
James looks like a deviantArt version of Ash.
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>>28880295
>stale is some /v/ cancer that knows nothing about Pokemon
Somehow this doesn't surprise me
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Why couldn't they think of anything else final for Ash and Serena other than a battle?
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>>28880545
A true prodigy.
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>>28880819
i was hoping they'd fuck

or more realistically, kiss
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>>28880819
I'm so sorry Scott
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>>28880819
That is the only thing Ash cares about.
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>>28880926
That's not Scott. It's just Serena.
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>>28881016
Fuck off, Scott. Inciting raids is against the rules.
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This costs $56 plus shipping. Worth it?
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>>28881169
Maybe?
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The sad thing is, if all the veteran members of the fandom leave, who is going to be left to explain the history of the pokemon anime fandom?

Nobody will be around to explain XY, Serena, or going back further with Dawn being the co-star of DP and Paul, May successfully replacing Misty and the success of the Contests, AG and DP preferred over Johto, etc.

This stuff isn't documented properly anywhere. When new people want to come into watching the anime, they won't know what to watch. Otherwise you'll just get the original trio and Misty fans claiming you shouldn't watch anything after the OS.
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>>28881130
Does it matter? 4chan is in disarray.
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>>28881212
CARLOS!
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>>28881260
You can always hope some autists make a chronicle. For example:

>https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/4chan_Chronicle
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>>28881260
Fuck.
Off.
Scott.
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>>28881264
>more ads
>not using adblock anyway
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>>28881169
Yes, I'd say.
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>>28881169
Yes.
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List of episodes to watch in order?

Need that fucking list.
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>>28881350
>>28879318
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I just feel that now that XY is over, all the people who liked BW are going to praise Sun/Moon (this is already happening on tumblr) and everyone is going to act like XY never happened or that it isn't worth watching.

I've already seen people say they're happy Ash is more comical again or the show is more light-heartred, or that Serena's crush is gone since it went nowhere, etc.
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>>28881385
I don't want to start from best wishes. I want to start from the original series.
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>>28880913
And all we're getting is a fucking wink.
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Ash meeting UB-02 Absorption and being completely destroyed when?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB15qcW3KbA
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>>28881401
Then start from back then. Johto has a lot of filler though, but some of them can be very funny.
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>>28881393
>I've already seen people say they're happy Ash is more comical again or the show is more light-heartred
Acceptable opinion.

>or that Serena's crush is gone since it went nowhere
They're absolutely right.

The problem with XY is that it was generally more serious and continuity-based (particularly XY&Z). When you develop a series that way, you create expectations for its ending, and copping out of almost everything that was built up over the course of three years sours the entire experience. A show that's more comedy-based or slice-of-life without big goals that are focused on can get away with little payoff at the end since it's not building up to anything big throughout. It's the road SM looks to be taking due to the absence of gyms and of the objective of winning a league. Graduating school is a much more normal goal that doesn't need the whole series to focus on constantly.
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>>28881442
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>>28881401
Original series:
PM1-38
PM65-66
PM39-47
PM52
PM48-51
PM54-57
PM53
PM58-64
PM67-68
Movie Short 1
Movie 1
PM69-77
Pikachu's Winter Vacation OVA 1
PM78-106
Movie 2 Short
Movie 2
PM107-128
Pikachu's Winter Vacation OVA 2
PM129-157
Movie 3 Short
Movie 3
PM158-180
Pikachu's Winter Vacation OVA 3
Mewtwo Returns TV Special
PM181-207
Movie 4 Short
Movie 4
PM208-232
Raikou TV Special
PM233-258
Movie 5 Short
Movie 5
PM259-276

Advanced Generation:
AG1-2
Side Story 1
AG3
Side Story 2
AG4
Side Story 3
AG5-6
Side Story 4
AG8-13
Side Story 5
AG14
Side Story 6
AG15-19
Side Story 7
AG20-29
Side Story 8
AG30-34
Movie 6 Short
Movie 6
AG35-40
Side Story 9
AG41-44
Side Story 10
AG45
Side Story 11
AG46
Side Story 12
AG47-67
Side Story 13
AG68-85
Movie 7
AG86-87
AG ANA Special 1
AG88-93
Side Story 14
AG94
Side Story 15
AG95
Side Story 16
AG96-135
Movie 8
AG136-137
AG ANA Special 2
AG138-184
Movie 9
AG185-186
AG ANA Special 3
AG187-193
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>>28881520
Diamond & Pearl:
DP1-39
Movie 10
DP40-41
DP ANA Special 1
DP42-86
Movie 11
DP87
DP ANA Special 2
DP88-135
Movie 12
DP136
DP ANA Special 3
DP137-165
Ranger 3 Special 1
DP166
Ranger 3 Special 2
DP168-183
Movie 13
DP184-DP185
DP ANA Special 4
DP186-191

Best Wishes:
BW Pre-Premiere Special
BW1-18
DP Special 1-2
BW19-41
Movie 14
BW42
BW ANA Special
BW43-86
BW Season 2 1-2
Movie 15 Spinoff OVA
BW Season 2 3
Movie 15 Short
Movie 15
BW Season 2 4-6
15th Anniversary Special
BW Season 2 7-23
BW New Year Special
BW Season 2 24
BW Season 2 Episode N 1-14
BW Season 2 Decolora Adventure 1-11
Movie 16 TV Special
Movie 16 Short
Movie 16
BW Season 2 Decolora Adventure 12-20
BW Season 2 Decolora Adventure Dent Special

See
http://pastebin.com/anb9qe55 for XY
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>yfw SM bombs
We all know it's gonna happen
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>>28881505
>continuity-based
>Ash never calling upon his old powerhouses
>never mentioning any of his previous teams
>shit on every other team by saying that the Kalos team was his best one.

No wonder the execs didn't grant it the League win.
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>>28881551
I meant continuity within the series itself, that's why I specified XY&Z which had a much tighter pace. The old series might as well not exist at this point.
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>>28881551
I think he means more like how it focused on recurring plotlines, compared to other Pokemon seasons that have more standalone encounters and less stuff running through. So, a weak conclusion for XY huts the earlier episodes much more than usual - like how all the episodes focused on powering up Greninja seem worthless now even though they were originally liked.
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>>28881537
Only Lillie and Ultra Beast battles like this can safe it:
>>28881442
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>>28881582
still, if you're building something up and you're not going to reference anything from the old series, good luck getting any nod from the execs.
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>>28881615
I disagree. The old series didn't matter in the slightest for XY. Ash never even said he owned this or that Pokémon when he came across a species he has at Oak's, nor did he ever mentioned he's traveled through many regions. It was entirely self-contained barring a couple small oblique references and thus wouldn't have needed to rely on past series in order for its own storyline to be properly completed.
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>amourshits now trying to have /vp/ deleted because Serena didn't end up with Ash

How sad.
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>>28881683
that's exactly why they didn't give Ash the win.

>B-but Pokemon Go Boom would generate more interest
It wouldn't be possible if Ash didn't have his second most-recognized Pokemon, and that sadly is Charizard. And again people wouldn't care if some random team for the region was used to give Ash his first major win. It's like Yugi not having Black Magician/Black Magician Girl when he won.

>It's the 20th Anniversary of Pokemon.
PRECISELY. You don't have him win on a season where all the past 20 years have no value, or regarded as nothing.
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>>28881727
This is pointless speculation and I can just as easily counter by stating he would've lost even with all the continuity in the world at his side, like in DP. Having Charizard in the team wouldn't have magically allowed Ash to win, they would've conjured up a bullshit reason for the loss just like they actually did with Greninja.
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Shh, Serena is sleeping.
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>>28881803
FUCK OFF YOU DUMB FUCKING WHORE.
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>this thread
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>>28881820
Half a week left
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>>28881537
Only if Applimon and the next YGO series are successful.
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>>28881803
qt
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>>28881803
>Not sneaking into her bed.
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>>28881891
Why would you want to do that? Her bed is empty.
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>>28881773
actually, no. Most anime with this much history and featuring an MC who's always lost subsequent seasons would always get the nostalgia-boost on the way to his first Major win.

And besides, If there was that much build up, with Ash using all of his best ones. having Infernape, Sceptile and Charizard to support Greninja; with all continuity intact and the anime flashing back to companions past and rival's past.

There's no way Ash would lose.

The problem with you XYfags is not being able to tell that the buildup didn't have the underlying nostalgia to support what you expected to see.


For it to have been Ash's first major win, it has to appeal with fans of the past series, with fans of the current series, and with newer fans.

So the perfect scenario where Ash wins it all is:

>A league wherein he'll use the best-of-the-best, like in DP/AG

>He gains a Pokemon which is actually for the next generation, early

>The season proper prior to the league guest stars alot of past companions and rivals. Or the league itself has former rivals to line up against Ash

>Pikachu/Charizard will be his last pokemon
>Pikachu if they're going for regular MC Finally Wins plot or Charizard for the feels plot wherein they flash back to where he lets Ash down, and Ritchie is the last Rival to face.
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>>28881931
ok
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>>28881931
It all adds up. BF was a event where all Ash's heavy hitters at that time was showcased.

DP was again the same case, Ash making the TOP 4 was again him using a whole pool of pokemon.

BF was won by Pikachu, which to this date is still his biggest achievement prior to being the runner up.

Also, since AG, notwithstanding BW, Ash has been beaten by the eventual champion,
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There was enough build-up with Ash/Alan and Greninja to think a win was perfectly believeable to happen.
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>>28881931
>Charizard fighting by Ash and in the height of the moment it flashes back to how he costed him the Indigo League. Charizard and Ash synchronize their feelings into one attack and Mega Evolves into Charizard Y and all his friends and rivals witness this moment on tv.
>Even Ash's old Pokemon try to get a peek at the tv from outside the lab.
>Type:Wild plays
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>>28882133
>Ash wakes up
>"Geez Ash, we're going late for school"
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>>28881931
And why are you posting this post now and not 3 months ago, when you didn't have your ebin hindsight?
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>>28881931
Listen, I agree with you, but this is the crux of it:
>So the perfect scenario where Ash wins it all is
You said it, it's a "perfect scenario". The problem with it is that the longer the anime goes on, the less they're caring about inter-series continuity. I find it extremely unlikely that they're ever going to do a series with that much continuity in it. They obviously don't give a shit about anniversaries, so what would cause such a decision? Only the anime ending, and even then I'm not entirely sure they'd bother. It's also something that's most likely not on the table for another 20+ years unless the franchise itself somehow ends. In the meantime they'll keep doing self-contained series that are only meant to waste everyone's time since they won't commit to them even when it looks like they are goint to.
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>>28881931
This so hard. I'd also add a season where the league was the main event. Not a build up for an upcoming climax. That's one of the reasons kalos league was so rushed.
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>>28882163
I told you to put on the alarm clock! my hair looks awful!
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>>28882181
Fucking this so much
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This kills the Sato
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Any news or the usual shitposting?
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>>28882538
Will we ever see the synchro thing again?
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Is there even a point anymore
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>This incessant whining.
How do you function in real life?
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>>28882606
I'm not sure
It really depends if the bond phenomenon is anime only, or if it's also in the games
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgPGaT7jQYQ
There's a multitude of reasons you can't convince anyone the anime is worth watching past Johto
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>>28882566
We got a new trailer on Pokenchi if you didn't see.
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>>28882634
Being aware of the shows flaws isn't the same as complaining or hating them.
The Pokemon anime doesn't need to be perfect or good, there's numerous similar shoes that enact what it would be like if it were well written.
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>>28882675
It's about Clemont and the gang rebuilding the gym and the new trainer challenging Citroid, right?
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>>28882701
But people here are acting as if someone actually died. Look at all the overdramatic posting we have had these days. It's like a fucking Puccini's opera.
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>>28882606
Is greninja in synchro mode when hugging Ash?
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>>28882749
I think he is. What leads me to think synchro survives Malamar's attack.
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>>28881169
Where can I buy/Pre-Order this?
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>>28882749
Yes
But really I don't expect anything from this episode
The summary is "Greninja fights some plants and Xerosic appears" or something like that
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>>28881169
Hot glue time
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>>28882738
Think back on every time a shitposter came and said "hurr durr ash will lose amour wont happen"
And rather than ignore it, people would deny it.
As if they mentally attached these things happening to the idea of the pokemon anime being enjoyable.
And then you have people leaping across social media and youtubers claiming these things will happen.
Dumbasses should keep their expectations in check.
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>>28882867
Dummies expected Pokemon to be something it isn't. It's a kids show about the adventures of Ash in a world of funny creatures. They wanted it to be serious, drak, "mature", whatever that means. It doesn't help, as you said, the lowest form of life, youtubers, told the rabble Pokemon was going to do X.
Now we are in the doom and gloom phase of the fandom cycle. the same happened when OS ended, AG, DP, etc.
Those like me who enjoy the show for what it is and want to keep watching and talking about it will have to endure a barrage of shit, autistic tears,and rage.
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>>28882717
It's linked in the OP. But yes.
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>>28882867
>treating shitposts as anything other than shitposts
No
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I guess people haven't realized that SM isn't about adventures
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>>28882987
That's the point dumbass.
They were shitposts, but people bothered to argue with them.
The point of the posts were to get retards riled up, and retards not only got riled up, but disagreed with factual statements and baited themselves
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>people haven't realized that the only possible finale for Ash's adventure is a mid-season cancellation
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>>28882973
The new trainer reminds me of someone, but I can't remember who.
If you are thinking Ash because of the gloves and hat, no, it's someone else. By the way, do you think he may have an Alolan pokemon. It has happened at the end of every saga, some trainer piques Ash curiosity by showing a pokemon of the upcoming region.
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>>28883028
He looks a lot like one of those rap brothers from the Chateau episode.
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>>28883017
I know. Its about the plight of special needs children.
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>>28882951
At least people won't fool themselves again, right?
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>tfw amour was a spineless ratings pull
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>>28883025
>people bothered to argue with them
No, those replies were shitposters too. And a lot of samefagging.
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>>28883052
Do 'battered wife' watchers count?
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>>28883026
People have realized this, idiots didn't
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>>28883052
They are already doing it, by wanting to watch SM and pretending it will be good.
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>>28883060
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>>28883050
That's right. Thanks anon.
>>28883060
It was the same ship teasing we got in every other show, but for autistic reasons people took it to the extreme.
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>>28883063
So those replies here, and everywhere else, where people aren't anonymous were shitposters?
Those youtubers doing the same shit were shitposting too right? They weren't just encouraging more children and idiots?
It was all one giant shitpost?
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>>28883099
People took it to the extreme because it was something new to Pokemon

>>28883115
The whole world is a giant shitpost
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>>28883099
It was far more explicit and recurrent than any other ship teasing we ever got, even 4Kids Misty. Serena's interest in Ash was also the only one to be explicitly confirmed to exist. It is not fair to compare to the other girls.

Not saying it was fair to expect it to actually happen, though.
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>>28883128
>The whole world is a giant shitpost.
As Stanley Kubrick taught us.
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>>28883115
It's an XYZ faggot on damage control
Calling the shilling shitposting is an easy way to distract people from how retarded your viewpoints are
See: Amour
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>Ash and Serena finish their journey together with a battle
>battles are things that give Ash the most pleasure in the world
>battles are a metaphor for sex
>Ash and Serena had sex

AMOUR CONFIRMED
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>>28883153
Nice try, shill.
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>>28883168
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>>28882621
You can say that about anything, anon.

The answer is always no
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>>28883099
>It was the same ship teasing we got in every other show, but for autistic reasons people took it to the extreme.
Tell that to Adamant:
>all previous ships were speculation
>amour is a subplot
And he's right anyway. It's another thing that was impossible for the anime to follow through after establishing it if they weren't willing to shake the status quo up.
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>>28883168
Then Clemont claimed fisrt blood and Ash had the night of his life with Alan. Not to mention Elle asked Serena for a quickie.
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I find curious rivers of bites have run about Amourshipping and Serena, yet nobody points out Ash never showed an ounce of romantic interest. Also, nobody gave a damn if Ash loves Serena or not. Let's be honest, YOU wanted to fuck Serena, marry her and live happily in the Pokeworld. You don't care about the writing or the quality, you only wanted this as wish fulfilment fantasy. There's nothing wrong with that, but be honest with us, and with yourselves.
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>>28883204
>It's another thing that was impossible for the anime to follow through after establishing it if they weren't willing to shake the status quo up.

That's probably the biggest reason the rage is still lingering as much as it did, because it proves that the anime can't even bother to emulate average-tier anime and will be content going in the dug-in circle. It's bad if you do nothing, it's worse when you hint at something and drop the ball and pretend it didn't exist.
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>>28883204
Again, that was the biggest sin of XY: promised far more than a Pokemon anime series is ever allowed to deliver.
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>>28883233
>YOU wanted to fuck Serena, marry her and live happily in the Pokeworld.

WRONG.

I wanted to MARRY her, THEN fuck her.

She is so pure she needs to marry as a virgin.
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>>28883233
I don't know if you're projecting or whatever, but I only wanted Ash's journey to end, and for me Serena and Greninja were a sign of that

Not everyone is a waifufag like you
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In case some newfags weren't aware, there's a guy who keeps bringing up shitposting arguments and another one who keeps agreeing with him. Could be one person or two, doesn't really matter.

Ignore them, report if necessary. Don't respond, that's just egging them on. Over time, you should be able to identify them with less difficulty.
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>>28883233
It's like a harem where people cheer for the girls, and don't give a damn about the dull mc.
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>>28883099
>same teasing

With posters, relationship charts, songs about how she likes him, etc? Not really
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>Serena in three weeks
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>>28883296
See this shit? See this shitposter?
The problem with this shitpost is its way too accurate a representation of the overweight hunchback nerds who support amour

You can't parody extreme viewpoints
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>>28883320
Point them out you dick
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>>28883330
>Someone is going to break her ankles.
Who would do such thing?
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>>28883305
Then, it seems the general problem was that people were actually expecting Pokemon to become a little something beyond what it actually is: a 30-min animated commercial ad for a videogame franchise for japanese children.
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>>28883320
It must hurt in hindsight how absolutely spot on every shitposter was
Especially on your homeplanet Serebii where its all genuine
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>>28883366
Pokemon for kids! that crazy talk you terrorist! It should be for sophisticated people like myself, who watches the finest crop of anime. I am so enraged by this ridiculous and stubborn refusal oh behalf of the show's executives to recognize their adult fanbase, that I will soil my diaper.
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>>28883294
>>28883305
My feelings are a combination of those two posts.

I think Amour is just bad writing pure and simple. It promised something that the format of the series simply couldn't deliver in any way whatsoever. Ash can't get a permanent girlfriend without the series ending, so the only alternative for the writers is to show Serena overcoming her crush, which they didn't, so any way they end this right now is going to feel rushed and awkward.

Honestly, I wish they stopped making the anime a continuing story and just made alternate universes, each with its own Ash and Pikachu (kinda like DC has a ton of multiverses each with its own Batman). This allows them to actually tell stories that go somewhere without losing the mascots of the franchise and would justify Ash's resets.
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>>28883115
If you think anyone here cares what some Youtube faggots were saying you're either new or shitposting. Fuck off now.
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>>28883430
>Honestly, I wish they stopped making the anime a continuing story and just made alternate universes, each with its own Ash and Pikachu (kinda like DC has a ton of multiverses each with its own Batman). This allows them to actually tell stories that go somewhere without losing the mascots of the franchise and would justify Ash's resets.

That's...actually a good idea.
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>it's a newfags are too new to recognize trolls episode
Four more days.
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>>28883421
Is this from an official animator?
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It's a good thing being an anime for kids isn't an actual justification for not ever being willing to bring a story anywhere since almost every kids' anime outside of Pokémon is in fact willing to do that and is thus infinitely more satisfying.
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>>28883593
Ohashi

Come on, he even signed it.
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>>28883430
>Honestly, I wish they stopped making the anime a continuing story and just made alternate universes, each with its own Ash and Pikachu (kinda like DC has a ton of multiverses each with its own Batman). This allows them to actually tell stories that go somewhere without losing the mascots of the franchise and would justify Ash's resets.

To add to this, I think this is the approach the writers would have taken if they knew there would be 6+ generations ahead of them.
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>>28883452
I think considering how dumbass amourfaggots and leaguefags sound elsewhere (As in exactly the fucking same but with user IDs)
It doesn't really matter if they're shitposters or not, they're accurate.
It doesn't matter if they're getting it from youtubers or not, because they act like people who do
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>>28883626
Makes me sad. He draws such a badass teen lookng Ash. I really wish the animatiors and writers were allowed to give Ash a proper ending.
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>>28883627
Seems to me when AG and DP were airing the writers considered the show one huge continuity. BW and XY feel more stand alone.
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>>28883632
Fuck off
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>>28883632
Nobody cares what some retard on Youtube or Serebii said about something. Bringing them up is considered shitposting for a reason. Fuck off back there now.
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>>28883664
No
Its endlessly pointless calling amourshit shitposting because its not even exaggerated from genuine amourshit
Its all the same trash
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>>28882951
>They wanted it to be serious, drak, "mature", whatever that means.

You're missing the point. People just wanted two cute kids to kiss and Ash to finally win a League, that's essentially it. I don't see that as serious, dark, "mature", or whatever you meant to say.
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Some of the people on serebii are real idiots.
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>>28883690
Why not?
If they sound exactly the fucking same as people here then what difference does it make.
Its all the same ashnime autism
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>>28883705
Fuck off back to Youtube if you want to bitch about how dumb Youtube kids are.
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>>28883736
No, because I want to bitch about how dumb padt kids are, and dumbasses such as your self try to argue that they're not actually stupid when they're just shot-for-shot recreations of faggots everywhere else.
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>>28883726
Because this is an anime discussion thread, not a "things retarded faggots said on other forums" thread. Nobody mentions those people or those comments for anything other than shitposting purposes because nobody except shitposters give a flying fuck what they said.
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>187 post
>41 posters

Where is that one mod?
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>>28883726
>ashnime
Go back to wherever you came from.
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>>28883758
>admitting you're just here to shitpost
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>>28883779
It's almost like this thread has nothing but shitposters
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>>28883771
>implying anyone would actually listen to the mod
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>>28883771
What are you even trying to say?
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>>28883816
Ever since Ash Greninja got btfo by edgezard it's just been shitposting.
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>>28883816
It's just a couple of vocal retards, just ignore them.
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>>28883766
So why is amourfagging ok
And why was leaguefagging ok up until the point Ash lost.
I'm not even defending bringing up forumshit, I just don't see why either of these things are defended when they're all just newfaggots from forums saying the exact same thing there

If someone said "Serena is going to alola!" people who tell them she's not are called shitposters when thats clearly bullshit
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>>28883847
Its the entire thread
The only defensible point of view is the one no one here is mentally healthy enough to have

That this cartoon is trash in comparison to most others
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>>28883817
I for one think a few anons would be upset and attempt to recreate those threads, the local shitposters would be laughing their lungs off and the rest of /vp/ would join them and also applaud the mods.

>>28883836
These threads are on borrowed time at this stage.

>>28883841
It's just been shitposting for like one year and a half to two years now, XYZ38 was just to this thread what Mega Evolution was to Rayquaza: it's so broken Smogon gave it a tier to call its own.
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>37 images
That's why this thread is so bad
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>>28883881
Go post in threads about things you like instead of shitposting in threads about things you don't like, little kid.
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>>28883850
>If someone said "Serena is going to alola!" people who tell them she's not are called shitposters
Why bother lying? We know what's going on in here.

Besides, it's 4chan. Can't take a bit of tough love, little baby?
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XY is the end of the anime for me. I can't support a show going on with the same protagonist after 20 years.
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>it's a shitposters shitpost and then complain about their own shitposts and say the threads should be deleted because of them episode
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>>28883914
I don't want to take anything, suck my dick
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>>28883869
>Waaah waaah, the ending wasn't what I expected it to be, now the whole series is trash!
Cute.
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>tfw
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>>28883921
For a sec there, the thumbnail looked like Satoshi's left arm was amputated.
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>>28883961
I like the pokemon anime
Its just not a good show
Breaking Bad is a good show, the pokemon anime isn't anywhere near that.
I'm not going to pretend its a good show just to enjoy it as much as a good show.
Also I was amassing (you)s cheering for Alain, so fuck off
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Is it just me or does their belly's blend together because there's no line separating the two?
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>>28884027
>belly's
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>>28884027
belly's
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>>28884027
Fuck off, Scott.
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>There are people who run through the entire thread tapping hide because Serena's inevitable departure triggers them
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>>28883907
>pointing out the truth is shitposting

Not my fault there's shit in front of your eyes, or perhaps I'm so good at this I don't even need need to try
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>>28883921
>>28883987

Goodbye you beautiful bastard. Even though you didn't win shit and were basically a glorified cheerleader for Alan during the Flare arc, we will miss you.
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>>28884233
>pointing out the truth is shitposting

"Serena will leave, not confess. Serena will be forgotten like every girl after Misty"
"Ash will lose to Alain, the build up means nothing"
People called these shitposting
They prepped themselves up for disappointment and couldn't just enjoy the show
They had to prove shitposters wrong
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>>28883946
>that Shauna

This should've been her original design, goodness.
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LOL, these guys on rangerboard talking about how they quit once Misty left:

http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?t=172943&page=291

Rangerboard has a lot of anime fans who have been watching XY, and DP/AG before that, some of the same users from Bulbagarden post there too.
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>>28884320
Shauna will never win the Pokemon League and become a pokemon master
How do you feel, Shaunime fags? Your hero succeeds at nothing! NOTHING!
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>>28884344
Inciting raids is still against the rules, Scott, as is reposting shit that got deleted for being against the rules. >>28881016
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I work on anime localization and I got a look at the first 3 episodes of SunMoon. You guys are going to go crazy over certain scene in episode 2.

The scene where Satoshi gets ran over by the Taurus? It happens because he was staring at Lillie.

This show is gonna get more shitposting than XY.
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>>28884386
I'm not scott, go fuck yourself.
Misty is an overrated character, Serena has much more writing
Suck your own normie pokemon go boner grandad.
Misty and brock are gone for good and you cant change that
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>>28884404
Fuck off Cathcart.
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>>28884404
>mfw Ash and mallow/lillie are allowed onscreen kisses multiple times because they're slapstick jokes
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>>28884404
Yes, because the writers would really do another shipping subplot right after Serena.
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>>28884404
>the most not serious series gets the most shipping
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>>28884489
>Serena appears
>Amour is treated like Sonic and Amy, where Serena basically PG sexually assaults ash
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>>28883430
Didn't they already show Serena got over Ash?
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>>28884565
Didn't Serena already fall for Clemont during the Flare arc?
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>>28884565
Didn't you get tired of spamming the same pasta again and again?
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>>28884549
Why does this make my dick feel funny?
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>>28884622
How does it feel that I was right about Amour not amounting to anything?
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>>28884404
>say that and doesn't even talk about the early tapu koko encounter
fuck off
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>>28884639
Furisode Serena a best
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>>28884639
Whose the artist? I don't think I've ever seen this before.
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>>28884643
Any art that gives May humongous tits works me up.
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Padt would be a lot more lush right now if before the league everyone didn't play up the Leaguefag and Amourfag shit times a million, dissapointed, and then leave or become shitposters
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>>28884737
Why is that so common?
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>tfw Serena is going to get over her crush on Ash like its nothing
I honestly thought I would be prepared for this day
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>>28884783
Its likely just a natural assumption that May's breasts would continue to grow as she becomes a teenager.
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>>28884739
The issue is really just the lack of moderation. Pokemon threads on /a/ are perfectly fine and have minimal shitposting these days.
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>>28884789
>image.jpg
At least you're being cautious
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>>28883946
So they gave Shauna, a temporary character, a different hairstyle (I know, it was only for that scene) but Iris always used her humongous hair, even when underwater and when waking up?

Fuck the animators.
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>>28884660
That's in episode 1.
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>>28882163
Lol
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>>28884836
Don't make me paranoid
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>>28884789
They already showed her get over it in the Wulfric arc. As was said, when Ash beat Wulfric the writers had her say 'Welcome back, you who I admire." To herself. Why didn't she say "you who I love"? Only reasonable answer to that is she doesn't love him any more. Or maybe she never did.
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>>28884842
The underwater thing made sense, though. She had her hair up before she fell in.
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>>28884878
Why are you replying to yourself?
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>>28884878
>Or maybe she never did.
Directed by M. Night Shyamalan
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>he's still posting his week bait
When will he finally get a job?
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>>28884404
Cute. Hope its real man.
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More info:

Tapu Koko does something to Pikachu that messes with its abilities, thus the Z Move usually ends up hurting Ash too, as some kind of recurring gag. Also, the school holds a small tournament for the newcomers, where Ash and Lillie partake. Ash loses in the round after the round Lillie loses at.
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>>28885075
nice fanfic nerd
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>>28885075
Great. What's next, Lillie sits on Ash's lap?
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>>28885075

If you're REALLY on the localization team what happens during the Serena leaving episode? Is it really nothing more than "Serena battles, Serena loses, Serena winks, Serena leaves"?
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>>28885123

Yes.
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I'm on the localization team
Ask me anything
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Serena's dub VA said this was her last year voicing Serena back in an interview from a couple of months ago. I wouldn't be surprised if the dub already knows how XY ends.

Not that the guy posting here is legit. He's not.
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>>28885172
why are you so bad at your job
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>>28885123
We still know nothing, but anyone with a single brain cell can figure out that it's going to happen that way
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>>28884904
Yeah, but would it have been such a bother to draw Iris with her hair down for once?
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>>28885202
I honestly think we do a fine job
It's not our fault that TPCi doesn't want to pay for the original music
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>>28885185
The digimon dubbers were told how it would end, why would pokemon be any less professional?
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>>28885221
I wish they drew May's hair down more often too.
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>>28885221
I mean, she even slept with those things...
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I swear I'm not part of the localization team, do NOT ask me anything
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>Ash gets his sex drive back
SM = OS confirmed.
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>>28885123
________________________________________________________________yes____________
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>>28885251
Do you suspect Serena will appear in the Sun/Moon arc at some point?
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>>28885272
The thing with Anime May is that, without her bandana, it didn't make any sense. Did she cut the back of her hair that short? Saphire is supposed to hold it in a bun UNDER her bandana, but May isn't, so it just looks weird without it.
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>>28885325
No, never, are you crazy
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>>28885325
I don't know
I'm just on the localization team
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>>28885286
It was just laziness in general. Hikari kept her normal hairstyle when going swimming in BW too, even though she changed it to a ponytail back in DP
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>>28885325
She is actually popular, unlike Iris, so I wouldn't be surprised.

I'm not even sure the Serenafags would want her to show up because of the art style.

>>28885339
Damn, that is a fine booty.
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>>28885339
Yeah, I really wish the ponytail she has in her ORAS design was there in her original design at least. It makes her hair make slightly more sense.
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>tfw you really are on the localization team but don't want to risk your job
Feels bad man
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>>28885380
Yeah, but at least that was something.
Misty dropped her sidetail when sleeping, and even got hair extensions when performing as a mermaid.
May got her bandana off on several episodes, and even got her bandana as a bow in the Lucario movie.
Dawn had several hairstyles when performing.
Serena... well, we're still discussing the short hair/long hair thing, and she got some accessories when performing too.
But Iris, not even when she was a loli got a different hairstyle.

And that's terrible.
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>>28885405
Stop being a fucking pussy and do it you bitch
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>>28884915
How does it feel that I was right and you were wrong about Amour?
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I work on TPC as janitor. Ask me thing.
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Is there even anyone here who doesn't work on the localization team?
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Does Serena kiss Ash on the cheek before she leaves? Does she hand him back the blue ribbon? Does she promise to meet him again? Does she suck his dick?
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>>28885490
All she's going to do is wink at him, which is awful.
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>>28885465
Yeah? Well my dad is president of the janitor's union at TPCi 's outsourcing company in Paris, Texas, so ask me anything about cutting hair, cause I'm a barber and work for several Game Freak employees .
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If everyone on /padt/ is on the localization team, then how come most of you actually thought Ash would win the league?
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>>28885535
Stuff like that is usually kept secret
Yes, I work on the localization team
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>amourshits now falseflag as "localization team"
everyday amourshits do something to degrade themselves even further.
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>it's a shitposters find something else to reply to themselves about episode
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Stale was right all along about Amour being a dud. How do the Amourfags feel right about now?
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>>28885339
Yeah, I hated how it looked. Misty usually looked really dumb when drawn from behind as well.
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>>28884404
It would be like sakura card raptor where everyone thought the main guy was gay but he was just attracted to Yukito because he had some weird magic aura.
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>>28885643
>typical shitposter response
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>>28885339
>Did she cut the back of her hair that short?
It's an actual hairstyle, though in real life you don't cut the hair on the back of your head THAT short
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>>28885643
Why do you get joy from the sorrow
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>>28885703
the Age of Serena, the girl that amounted to nothing is at an end. It's time to now live in the AGE OF SQUID.
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>>28885665
Yeah, but Misty made sense, because she did keep her hair short -and the side tail was believably short. Besides, she was supposed to be more of a tomboyish character.

But May... Who keeps such long bangs with such a short hairstyle? Besides, which girly-girl sports such a weird haircut?
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>>28885612
>being mean to amourfriends
rude
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>>28885703
Because it's funny how they got BTFO after all the "shitposter" name calling to anyone who dared speak out against Amour.

Where are all of you now?
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I'm little sister of SM anime director, ask anything.
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>>28885339
>>28885701
This is how it looks in real life. There are variants with longer bangs as well.
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>>28885735
Go lump yourselves with the NaruSakus, the IchiRukis and the Zutarans, along with the Harry/Hermoine losers.
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>people are having an actual, civil discussion about hairstyles and art direction
>meanwhile shitposters are circlejerking some ancient pasta bait
>people still claim these threads don't have problems with shitposting and that they just have a cancerous userbase in general
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>>28885756
Shokotan had a similar one a while back.
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>>28885803
All it needs for it to stop is for the Amourshitheads to stop hogging that retarded OP message. But no, they want to outlaw all that is against their delusional whim that somehow Ash is going to end up with Ms. Worthless.
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>>28885732
When viewed from behind, her head looked clean shaven apart from the ponytail. It looked awful.
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>>28885732
She should have worn her hair down more often
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>>28885803
Hiroshima has only dropped the ball since he arrived.
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>>28885891
This.
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Do we have an "Official" ship name for Ash and Lillie? I've heard of "TentacleRapeshipping" and "UltraShipping"
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How many times did Ash and Misty battle?
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>>28885940
Squidshipping or TentacleRapeshipping
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>>28885943
Four, I believe? Gym episode, Togepi episode, Totodile episode and that tournament.

They were all bullshit and unfair in some way
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post more lillie, NOW
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>>28885940
Some silly name that will make you realize you are pairing an aristocrat with a savage.
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>>28886015
which is the hook about this, not whether they're going to end up together.
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If you were a writer padt, would you have stopped having Serena love Ash in the the Wulfric arc?
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>>28885969
SquidShipping sounds cute.
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>>28886062
No, I'd scrap Serena as she is and replace her with a character who has an axe to grind with Ash because she got bullied by him when they were younger, make her the Mega-Zard Y wielding rival and have her and Ash be uneasy companions and rivals at the same time.
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>>28885940
Don't know. but I like the sound of this one.
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>caring about "official ship names"
wew
I bet none of you have any clue what the "official names" for homoscience and megahomo are
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>>28886146
The first one is diode, don't know about the second and I'm not about to go check.
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>>28886146
iirc japs just combine the names. Like Satosere. I remember when some anon posted numbers for the ash ships in pixiv. Strongest homo was ash/gary. After all these years...
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So we have all accepted that Amour was a joke, and it's ending in an awful way at this point?
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>>28886232
They do, it's the standard for all franchises and makes a hell of a lot more. You can instantly tell what pairing "SatoAo" is, but I have no idea what special snowflake name for it some Bulbafuck decided on ages ago.
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>>28886239
I just wanna see the guy settle down man
He must be so damn tired at this point
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>>28886363
I'm extremely baffled that they're ending Amour so horribly.
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>>28886122
How would you pronounce that?
(or-elia) (u-relia)
>>28886232
PalletShipping I believe.
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>>28886239
If coud have written a girl who overcomes a childhood crush to follow her dreams but also will always be thankful to that guy to helped her realize her place in the world. But that might be asking too much, and I think they'll just throw another hint that Serena's still infautated. Can't say it doesn't suit Serena.
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>>28886409
Awe-rel-E-uh
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>>28886425
>If coud have
Meant they could have, shit I'm drunk. Have some best girl before bed.
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>>28886472
Stop replying to shitposts you nigger
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>>28886425
>think they'll just throw another hint that Serena's still infatuated

That wink she's giving him looks so fucking platonic.
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>>28886472
Is that Ashley?
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So I'm a retired Icelandic psychologist. I recently started watching this show and I figured I'd put together some in-depth character studies on what I found about the 4 main characters so far. I'd encourage y'all to give it a read as I'm pretty sure there's at least one thing you haven't pondered before, and I always thought that knowing and studying the characters is half of what makes watching a tv show fun. However note that I really only covered episodes 1-40 in this study.
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>>28881851

And Monster Hunter and Time Bokan 24 too. Besides, Yokai anime refuses to die. Pokemon is actually cornered
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>>28886555
Sophocles
Let's start by taking a look at his father since I believe his father is very pivotal in how Sophocles is the way he is, despite how little we know about him. The first thing to note is that his father often dresses up in a bizzare outfit. He seems to do so in secret. The reason for this is that this outfit is actually their families traditional tribal uniform. I've deduced that Sophocles has not always lived in Alola. No, he was actually an only child, who grew up in the north wilderness with his father before moving to Alola. He comes from a tribe of cannibals who are very uncivilized. This explains his dads tendency to dress up in his tribal suit every so often and go out...roaming. And also why he doesn't want anyone else to know about it. The reason they moved to Alola, of course, was because Sophocles is so terrible at running. His dad figured that he wouldn't make it that long if they stayed amongst the other cannibals so he decided to move to Alola for his own good where Sophocles then picked up the art of Science.

Though due to growing up in a society that puts such a trivial outlook on peoples lives, you'd think...
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>>28886571
... a scientist who grew up in that sort of environment would become something like Dr. Frankenstein only perhaps even more madder. And I think to an extent he is a bit of a "mad scientist", multiple times he has tested his explosive products on vulnerable guinea pigs. Why just the other day I caught an episode where he put a "cheerleader hat" that he knew would explode on Lillie's head.

This leads me to...

Why do his inventions keep blowing up? Well upon close inspection I believe the reason is that he programs them to, though not intentionally. The way he was raised, the cannibalistic instinct is just too strong inside him and without perhaps meaning to, he makes his inventions homicidal with the unintended intent to bring some fresh meat home. You can see he is frequently apologetic afterwards, perhaps because of embarrassment or frustrations with his subconscious.

So while I believe he does show restraint, he still can't completely ditch his old cannibalistic ways. Why do you think he follows Ash? The truth is because Ash was just too delicious to pass up. You can hear his father, after saving Ash from his fall from the Melemele lighthouse, grumble to himself "mmmm you' delicious, boy". This was removed from the dub airing. If I went further into analyzing his dad, I'm afraid it would be purely speculatory, I'm unsure whether his dad still eats people or not, or whether he still encourages Sophocles to hunt. I need to see more of their interaction to be able to tell. Another thing worth noting is that whenever Sophocles thinks to himself, he frequently refers to the others as "meat sacks" or "walking supper". You might say these are terms that he was taught to use while growing up but the fact that he never says them out loud makes me think it's something rooted deeper into his psychology. I believe he has a degree of "self-loathing" and most likely won't tell the others about his problems, possibly due to embarrassment.
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>>28886583
Ash
Ash is severely depressed for what should be obvious reasons. Losing best-companion Clemont as well as several other things that happened to him during the XY anime. His jump from the Melemele lighthouse was most certainly done in a suicide attempt. In fact, he believe's he's in the afterlife afterward up until around the first gym. I know, I really think the anime took Ash's obliviousness a bit too far there, but at least it was only for a few episodes. As you can see his depression comes back after he loses against the first gym, for a brief moment he showed his true feelings to the world. But it was soon erased afterward and he continues to put a brave face on for his friends who he probably secretly envies as to him it appears they have no problems. He most likely won't tell the others about his problems, possibly due to apathy.
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>>28886555
checked
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>>28886607
Lillie
As we all know, Lillie is a terrible terrible conspiracy theorist. If she was open about what she thought about everything she'd no doubt be the most annoying character in the show. So to quickly recap, she recognizes Ash from his suicidal jump tape as someone she met a long time ago at a camp and then desperately tries to meet up with him. When they first met she was wandering around scared that the island they were having camp at was actually a giant UFO with carnivorous aliens inside, which may or may not have been true. Ash momentarily "saved" her and afterward, while it doesn't show it, it's heavily implied Lillie went full psycho on him, and by "psycho" i mean she just heavily red-pilled him with half-bullcrap conspiracies. Which with Ash being Ash probably went inside one ear and out the other. The reason current-Lillie wanted to meet him so much was perhaps because she thought he'd be the one to finally understand her. You'll notice she has like no friends so I think she's a bit lonely, especially with how she feels everything is out to get her. Also maybe she wanted to see if she could retrieve sleeper-information from him but I'm not sure yet, I thought some of that would be answered when they finally reached Team Skull's hideout but that turned out to be anticlimactic. When Lillie finally meets up with Ash she is very disappointing to learn that Ash did not remember anything she said to him (As was predicted). She still has yet to tell/remind him, but hasn't yet. Maybe she's paranoid he's been brainwashed.
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>>28886624
Well anyways while I said she had no friends I do believe that she had at least one friend at some point. Now I didn't see this until I fully connected all the dots between all the Lillie episodes. The first one being the "pokedance" episode. You might think it's strange for a conspiracy theorist who is dealing with extreme paranoia to want to put herself in the limelight. I did too, I thought maybe it was just lazy writing. But then I looked at her video and noticed her Vulpix outfit was most likely a reference to a real-life conspiracy dealing with MK-ULTRA'd celebrities and their weird fashion habits. In particular, Lady Gaga. I then looked through the rest of her video and found that each section was actually ripe with symbolism referencing both IRL conspiracies and potential conspiracies in-universe. Such as the hand symbol she makes with Vulpix while both nodding their heads. So I can gather that her whole video was made as a weak jab against the Pokedance empire. From this I could gather that she probably has something against Pokedance, something hidden deep and I wasn't quite sure what, and I'm still not quite sure what but can give a good guess (But you'll have to wait a bit).
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>>28886644
NOW the reason I brought up the Pokedance epsiode is because I believe pokedance was the reason that Plumeria finally got fed up with Lillie. Perhaps Plumeria had signed up for an account and Lillie flipped out about it, I don't know. But the reason I think this is true is because primarily through the shows narration. If you were going to introduce a character that had such a profound impact on a main characters past then you'd probably want to foreshadow it a bit. Which is what the pokedance episode is for. But...I could be wrong. However the english dub title for the pokedance episode IS called "A pokedance of things to come" so it's not like I pulled this completely out of thin air.

Strangely in the episode where the're in the haunted manor, she repeatedly expresses some of her conspiracy theories. I do not know what led her to let herself go so much there. Must have been the full moon.

She most likely won't tell the others about her problems, possibly due to estrangement.
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>>28886667
Lana
Lana was hard to figure out. I finally noticed that if you look reeeeallly hard, like squint your eyes and turn your monitor upside-down hard, you can see that Lana isn't really there in the first 2 episodes. In fact she makes her first appearance in episode 3. The reason for this, as was mentioned above is that Lana is not really Sophocles sister. "Lana" seems to have brainwashed Sophocles to think that she's his sister. If you look at Ash when he sees Lana for the first time in Episode 3, a slightly curious expressions crosses his face, but since at the time he's convinced he's wandering through the underworld he doesn't really think much of it. It's reasons for joining Ash and co. seem to be purely for freeloading. The commotion that Ash made during his suicidal jump likely caught it's attention. It occasionally overdoes it's "little girl" act. When listening to the Japanese voice I thought it sounded like she could have been a smoker at some point, but most likely has given that up. Possibly vapes. I could go more into what I think of him, but that would be entering quantum psychology. It most likely won't tell the others about itself, likely. Because that would be blowing it's cover.

Conclusion
Most likely these 4 will continue along their trends, not telling the others anything until the final episode, where they will all likely and inevitably commit suicide together. Except Lana who will probably just go freeload somewhere else. The most likely method they will use is jumping off a cliff seeing as how this is a kids show and you can't really show dead bodies.
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Rate my wife.
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>>28886232

Pixiv hits:

Ash/Serena: 6,418,721
Ash/Gary: 4,857,171
Ash/Dawn: 3,132,614
Ash/Cilan: 2,850,772
Ash/Misty: 1,968,780
Ash/May: 1,501,021
Ash/Iris: 895,125
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>>28886775
>Ash/Serena: 6,418,721
Damn son
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>>28886775
>Ash/Serena: 6,418,721
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>>28886775
How much is May/Drew out of curiosity? Ash/May is very low.
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>>28886787
The number of butthurt shitstains who will be crying when Serena drops the crush
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>>28886775
How many will satoli get?
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>>28886775
Taking into account the fact that Pixiv has only been around since 2007/2008, Ash/Gary is doing fucking great.
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>>28886775
>Ash/Cilan is in fourth place,
Good for best pokebro.
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New bred:
>>28887008
>>28887008
>>28887008
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>>28885490
I work for pokemon anime localization and can confirm there is a 15 minute dick sucking scene animated by Hideaki Anno personally
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>>28887032
>literally nothing but shitposters already
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>>28886918
Depends on how much they tease it but for something that people don't know shit about it's getting a decent amonunt of fanart. Also consider amour and squidrape are part of an age where fanart has bloosomed with sites like pixiv, twitter and fuck tumblr. Damn, didn't DP animu came 10 years ago? by that time pixiv wasn't even a thing and I remember you could watch complete series in youtube. Pearlshipping would likely get more hits if it came out around this time.
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>>28885891
It wasn't that often, but she did wear it down several occasions, and she looked pretty cute when that happened.
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>>28887350
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>>28887350
>>28887409
Why the hell was this not her normal hairstyle?
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>>28887409
And remember all those episodes in which she performs as a mermaid.
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