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15 MINUTES GET IN HERE RED VS BLUE MEWTWO JOHTO?? Hope

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15 MINUTES GET IN HERE

RED VS BLUE

MEWTWO

JOHTO??

Hope we see some battling unlike last week t b h
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>>28848280
>t b h
>not just embracing the desu
>shit taste desu senpai
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>>28848280
Probably legendary beasts. Red vs Blue was in origins no need to repeat it, same with Mewtwio
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>>28848292
>Not using pham

With a p h
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>>28848280
I liked the one where Gary rapes misty and pees in her butt.
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>>28848280
>Mewtwo
Instant watch
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>>28848280
>Generations shows all the untold stories of the Pokemon world
>Red vs Blue is an untold story
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>>28848360
So is it showing the plot of the games, or stuff we actually havnt seen? Ie looker looking for giovanni and blue vs leet 4 etc
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Crossing my fingers for the Lake of Rage
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>>28848378
Mostly stuff we haven't seen, that's why they're shorts
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It'd be kinda neat to show the story of a nurse joy, going through her education, first day, a couple of emergencies, then at the end it turns out she's the B2W2 mom.
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>>28848438
That sounds boring as fuck.
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>>28848438
>>28848456
Could be a good fapfic
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Crossing my fingers for Silver chilhood.
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Crossing my fingers for more Red.
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LATE
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>>28848492
how is red an untold story
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>:04
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TPC SAW THIS IS A PIECE OF SHIT AND CANNED IT
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>>28848517
LMAO
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>6 minutes past

>literally cancelled
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlh4jKv184E
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>>28848398
MOTHERFUCKING CALLED IT
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https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E

https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E
https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E

https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E

https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E

https://youtu.be/hlh4jKv184E
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>>28848504
Do you know where is Red in this moment? what is he doing? do you know his blood type? do you know what is he eating right fucking now?
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WHERE WAS GOLD REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>28848557
He's eating pussy right now
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>>28848542
ETHAN
T
H
A
N
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Fucking garbage, yet again.
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jezzzz they're getting worse
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>>28848542
It was ok. Would've liked to see more Ethan - fingers crossed for the next episode.
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Fuck me.

It had some good shots and stuff, but still.

You just can't make it good with only 4 and a half minutes for an episode
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The animation was so off at times

Somebody make a gif of those grunts waling to lance, so awkward
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Seriously what the fuck is up with those Rocket grunts
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>STILL NO SPANISH DUB
OH C'MON
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How can something that's so short feel so floaty and slow?

Houndoom didn't get the fight it deserved.

I liked it anyway though
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ehhehee...hehe....heheheeehhheeh...hehhheeheh....
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>>28848636
THIS,

Generations and origins was overrated tho,.
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>>28848633
We is zombies now
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Jesus christ the animation was awful at some points.
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I need webms of everything in that short.
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>>28848652
WHAT'S WRONG WITH THEIR BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKS?
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>>28848652
Thats james
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>silent signals to blown a wall really loud.
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>>28848652
Cute
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>>28848552
>>28848542
Best one so far.
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Generations should belong in cringe threads
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>>28848670
Archer is James
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>>28848552
Nice trailer. where can I find the actual episode?
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Someone please post screenshots of my boy Ethan.
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>"The other protags wont show up" fags BTFO
>"all the action gets cut" fags BTFO
>"its just a gen 1 wankfest" fags BTFO
This episode was fantastic, its exactly what I expected from this series. Pessemists get fucked.
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Need a webm of dragonite ripping out the control panel.
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Needs more Ethan
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>Ethan
>Dragonite going full fucking ape and just breaking stuff
It's okay.
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>>28848693
Hahaha, good one anon.
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>>28848542
Christ, dragonite is just so ugly.
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>>28848689
The electrode scene attacking Petrel was kinda cringy.
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>>28848718
The point is this is the stuff that goes on that the player doesnt see. The protags arent going to have a spotlight role
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>>28848707
>>"its just a gen 1 wankfest" fags BTFO
focused on a gen 1 character and pokemon

so it's still a wankfest
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lel
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>"""untold""" story
>that boring and bored dragonite being a smug dick
>that absolutely pathetic petewl vs lance """battle"""
>ethan not even showed in the double battle with lance, merely got 5 seconds scenes hiding in the shadows
>no murkrow
>no ninja trap with explosion and self destruct mons
>weird facebook electric emoticon balls out of nowhere to pander the texting social network kids ughhh

This so far the least loved episode of Generations, isn't it?

Props for the lewd Lance sliding scene and the cute Rocket grunts, also the Persian statue. At least will have some webms to work on.
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Dragonite : 7.2 feet
Gyarados : 21.3 feet

That Gyarados is way too big
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>>28848707
>This episode was fantastic
Your taste is too shit to laugh at.
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Better than last weeks in terms of content. Less cringey voice acting too. The battles were okay I suppose considering that theres no way grunts would really pose a threat to an Elite 4 member.

Its funny how the Gyarados battle we saw in the preview was literally just a couple seconds long.

One thing tho. What the hell was with the grunts when they approached Lance? I didn't know they were part of the Ministry of Silly Walks
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>>28848743
50% mad
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>>28848280
I honestly liked this one. I mean, yeah, it's not amazing. Generations isn't going to be 'amazing' because of how short the episodes are. It's going to have a ton of issues with pacing and everything.

All things considering, though, it was alright. Better than the previous one. The Electrode were so damn adorable.

I don't care about anything else but those Electrode.
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>>28848742
There was a Houdoom.
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>>28848652
my mom's jessie & james and that one other grunt that became a cook in the amine
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That was so fucking unnecessary.
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>DRAGONITE DESTROY
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>>28848742
>focused on a gen 1 character and pokemon
Because Lance was in Gen II and had a Dragonite.
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Animation and direction seemed really inconsistent to me, which is really strange for something this short.

That being said seeing Dragonite wrecking everyone's shit was funny to watch.
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>it's a "half the episode is dragonite slowly walking towards [thing]" episode
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How do they manage to have worse animation than the regular show?
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>>28848280
They made one mistake, the beacon was in a pine treenot a normal leafy tree..
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>>28848707
wh-where was the action?
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>>28848797
>made in america
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>Ethan

Holy FUCK I'm so glad this series isn't going to focus on Red
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>Wheezing used Smog
>Nothing

Like a fart on the subway, not a single reaction
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>>28848808
>Reminder than american cartoons have more fluid animation than 90% of anime.
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>>28848805
Does dragonite walking at a snail's pace count as action?
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>>28848755
>Your taste is too shit to laugh at.
Alternatively, some people aren't overly picky and expecting the moon and stars, realizing that Generations isn't going to be 'absolutely amazing' and are taking the episodes as they come and potentially being surprised.

They're 3 to 5 minute shorts simply showing events throughout the Pokemon games. Lighten up and just have some fun. It's not going to kill you.
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>>28848770
I meant in the sense that Dragonite was the highlight, but my bad for not getting that across
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>people complaining about the animation

you guys will call the ep shit over a few seconds of choppy animation but ignore nicely done dragonite bits?
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>>28848842
Thank you for putting it into words
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>>28848797
The regular has a high budget and some of the best animators so it's not really a surprise. I would be very very surprised if it would even get close to as good animation as Ash vs Clemont/Shota/Alan
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>>28848759
Electrode is cute! CUTE! ( (:) (:) ) ( (:)
It looked like she was listening to the music through headphones.
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>>28848821
>Reminder that you're comparing hundreds of anime to a few dozen cartoons
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>>28848821
Fluid doesn't make it better when the art style is garbage
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>>28848849
People just want something to complain about. You're not allowed to like anything anymore apparently
>captcha
Holy fuck
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>>28848759
kawaii desu
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>>28848821
Reminder that fluid animation doesn't mean good animation. It's easy to animate a bunch of simplistic noodle armed blobs, and the movement still doesn't look natural.

Reminder also that all your favorite 80s and 90s toy/capeshit cartoons were animated in Korea.
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>>28848797
>comparing pokemon to regular show
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they die?
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>>28848652
kek
I had to make a webm of this scene
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>>28848893
... They meant the Ashnime, aka the regular Pokemon Anime.
Not Regular Show
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>>28848842
>Alternatively, some people don't have standards and don't realize that a 3 to 5 minute short shouldn't look this shit
You know what's fun? Not half assing things.
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>>28848902
I-i can't even defend that
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>>28848902
BAD GUYS BAD GUYS
WHO GONNA CALL?
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WHERE THE GIFS AND WEBMS/
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Man was that a steep quality drop from the previous chapter.

>Evolves dragonair at level 47
>Overtakes champion position with no records of going through the normal procedures
>Purposedly orders his pokémon to attack humans
>Massive property damage
>Steals all merit
How deep does Lance's crime list go?
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>>28848849
The whole thing was choppy.
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>>28848911
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>>28848817
2 seconds aren't focus.
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>>28848902
>They thrown 4 pokeballs
>5 pokémon comes out

I like the fact of magnemite surviving the fire type attack, it's a nice detail.
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>>28848292
I used to think that everyone here was a weeb I realized some words get filtered. Are there any other words that get filtered or is it just desu and senpai?
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Jesus christ these generation shorts suck hard

I don't understand how anyone can like this
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>>28848965
If it isn't ashnime people will like it no matter how shit it is.
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>>28848933
>drugged his dragonite to the point of being impervious to everything
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>>28848652
>>28848902
>when there's an intruder in your base and it's the FUCKING CHAMPION so you and the boys gotta act cool
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the animation was pretty good during some parts

anyways
4>2>3>1
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>>28848965
>I don't understand how anyone can like this
People are retarded, you should know this by now.
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>>28848959
There's a third one but I don't remember it atm
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>>28848933
What if Lance abused the radiowaves to evolve his dragonairs?
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>>28848821
What? All the americans cartoons nowdays are shit like Adventure Time or Steven Universe, round blobs everyone and almost like flash animation.

Japan at least tries to make real anatomy, frame per frame animation and use of shadows instead of taking short routes.
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Dragonite is Venom confirmed?
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>>28849001
>People are retarded, you should know this by now.
I mean, hey, we're all posting here on /vp/. That should be saying something.
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"THIS SHOULD BE A FULL LENGTH SERIES!!"
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>>28848636
LEARN FUCKING AMERICAN
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>>28848999
Shit taste, 1>2>>dogshit>3>4
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>>28848902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ns3SoMKr0nQ
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>>28848959
smhtbhfam
baka desu senpai
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Great episode.

Idk why /vp/ is so assblasted about Generations, it's way more watchable than any Ashnime episode after season 1.
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>>28849018
So he wanted to destroy the antenna so he can keep being the only one able to do that!
Does he use those too to teach his pokémon moves that they can't learn?
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>>28848959
Cuck used to be filtered to kek, but one of the boards was having a problem with it accidentally filtering a legitimate use of the word.
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>>28849059
(you)
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>>28849059
No it isn't. Not at all.

Even the WORST ashnime episode is worlds better than this absolute pile of feces.
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>>28848636
The Spanish dub is rubbish, even worse than the English one which is already awful.
Go with Italian instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Unw7KZe6Q
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>>28849038
No worries, spanish dub is already out
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>>28849059 (You)
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>>28849067
Cuckoo
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>>28848750
Forced evolution
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>>28849059
>Idk why /vp/ is so assblasted about Generations
It's hip and cool to be constantly overly cynical and salty in this place, Anon.
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>>28848999
4>1>2>3
I liked Pikachu in 1 and now that it's confirmed this series isn't going to be the Red show who can really hate it? 2 was kind of ruined by Giovanni's line at the end. 3 gave the biggest blue balls.
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>>28849097
Oh sorry I'm not hyped for these ~3 minute long completely pointless shorts with shoddy animation quality and shitty writing.
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>>28849097
>guy proceeds to call ashnime shit compares to this and pulls nostalgia shit

The irony
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>>28849059
/vp/ just has a hateboner for gens 1 and 2
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>>28849084
I'm italian I watched them both italian dub is shit (the english one was terrible the first episodes too)
there's no good dub of this thing
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>>28849079
Wrong the anime is mostly one of the most boring shows in tv history. Only things maybe worth watching are the gym battles. The weekly befriend a pokemon episodes are as boring and kiddy as possible.
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Woah, /vp/ has some shit taste, if you disliked it. What's wrong with Generations so far? It's few shorts to watch, what's wrong with them? This one was okay too, even if they fucked up the Electrode scene a little, since in the games Lance wanted them to faint.
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>>28849097
Or it's bad
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>>28849122
But I don't, love em.

Generations is just junk. No sugarcoating it.
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>>28849079
The only good thing about the Ashnime are the opening and ending songs. Not even the League is worth watching anymore, it's all the same boring predictable shit, and the CGI is horrible.

Generations is way more fun and it doesn't waste my time with character introductions and useless talking.
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>>28849122
and 4, and 3, and 6, and 5, and 7, in no particular order
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>>28849141
Yeah instead Generations is a 100% waste of time with no redeemable moments at all.
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>>28849132
t. Has not watched it since OS

Which retard pretends he knows shit? Just the last episode was way better than any generation episode

https://youtu.be/DO7NuT6Wlg0
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>>28848280
requesting webm of dragonite throwing a computer
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>>28849051
Thanks sen.pai.
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>>28849149
And this is why you shouldn't care about /vp/'s opinion. They'll always find faults with everything like the cynical pieces of shit they are.
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>>28849097
>overly cynical and salty
Or maybe your taste is shit.
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>>28848902
>>28848956
>'why the fuck would magnemite be the only one getting up it's a steel type'
>'remember sturdy'

Clever
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>>28849174
If you think Generations is good, why don't you go hang out on reddit where the other retards meet up?
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>>28849134
Nothing, the anti-Generations crowd are all /padt/ niggers who are super mad their shitty show turns into an even bigger pile of feces in Sun/Moon.
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>>28849154
No I watched some XY episodes. Or tried to anyway. Ridiculously boring. And the characters have lost all personality, completely bland cardboard cut outs with terrible or no humor unlike the first season. But enjoy your garbage.
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>>28849115
As you should be, Anon. I'm glad you realized that. However, you could tone down the salt a little, because you're going to harm your body with it.

You don't have to be 'hyped', but at the same time should honestly learn how to appreciate the smaller aspects of these shorts. They're by no means great, but they're interesting little diversions that still do show some neat aspects here and there.
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>>28849134
>tripfagging
I'm not even gonna bother arguing with you, you fucking faggot.
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>>28848902
>i have crippling osteoporosis
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>>28848759
I always saved one of those Electrode and used it on my team.
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>>28849208
You couldn't sound more gay if you tried.
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>>28849208
Why do I have to appreciate them?
Do I have to like everything?

I don't think so.

If something is bad, then I should be free to call it bad. And that applies to Generations.
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>>28849199

t. Watched the english dub and is a nostalgiashitter
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On /vp/ everyone is an expert on animation and game design.
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>>28849192
>muh reddit boogyman
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>>28849208
>that still do show some neat aspects here and there.
The Looker short, sure, but the rest were hot garbage
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>>28849192
>why don't you go hang out on reddit where the other retards meet up?
But if someone honestly wanted to meet up with retards, why would they go to anywhere else but here?
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>>28849151
Generations doesnt need "redeemable moments" since the whole thing is interesting from start to finish, instead of having 1 minute worth of barely interesting moments combined with 20 minutes of pure bore.

For short episode series this is way better than I EVER imagined it to be, especially after the complete shitshow that was Origins 3 years ago.
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"When it gets to Gen 3 and beyond I'll like it."

-/vp/
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>>28848652
>>28848902
I have a sudden urge to draw the Female Grunt.
Disappointed we didn't see Ariana.
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>>28849034
What it really needs is a fucking budget so they don't have to get the shittiest fucking Korean animators to do most of it.
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>>28849246
>you have to be a chef to know that shit tastes bad
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Team rocket was the best thing about this episode. That persian statue was cool as shit.
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>>28849233
I could confess my love to you?
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>>28849266
Gen 3 is my favourite, but if Generations in Gen 3 ends up being shit, I'll still dislike it
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>>28849265
> since the whole thing is interesting from start to finish

Wrong. This entire short was boring and stupid all the way through.
The worst short yet.
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>>28849276
All fags must hang.
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Man. this sucks ball holy shit.
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>>28848808

enough with this meme

all of them were made in japan.
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>>28848864
>thinking quantity means anything
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>>28849295
It really did.

Looker one was the best.
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>>28849244
No I barely watched the anime as a kid but having seen the first season recently, it has humor and the characters have personalities and the episodes are interesting. Nothing like what it currently is.
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The electrodes flying around also cool as shit.
Also a grunt having a houndoom is complete bullshit. That pokemon was used only by admins.
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>>28849265
>the whole thing is interesting from start to finish
Yeah, I loved watching Dragonite slowly walk towards [thing] for like a whole third of the short.
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>>28848902
How do people dislike this? No fun allowed here on /vp/?

This was the most well animated short yet so I'm not sure what people are talking about when they day "choppy" animation.

Then again, particle effects probably don't even register as animation to most people so I guess nobody here appreciates how nice all of dragonite's fire looked
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>>28849290
You've got some rather kinky fetishes there, Anon.
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>>28849285
It's the second best episode after the Looker one.

They should can the normal ashnime and pour all their budget into this.
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>>28849323
>This was the most well animated short yet
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>>28849309
nah, this was better than Arcanine turning walls into impenetrable magma.
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>>28849199
>hurr durr I watched three filler episodes in a 150 episodes series with the terrible english TPCi dub and think I have the right to have an opinion about anything

Kill yourself nostalgiafag
https://youtu.be/DmoccfoLFeQ
https://youtu.be/dc0bN4IcpRY
https://youtu.be/nHvnbEpRC0g
https://youtu.be/B5uK8ZqpKmA
https://youtu.be/XzA2yJiwsaQ
https://youtu.be/lW1yPXTzd1A
https://youtu.be/mupRbhH7tB0
https://youtu.be/BkD0k4qfxcc

Here is 8 non gym/league battles better than this shit. Can give you 8 more.
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>>28849329
Not at all.
As has been explained before, none of the shorts even came close to the actual anime.

>>28849323
This was the worst short yet with absolutely awful animation quality. Kill yourself.
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>>28849314
Dragonite was the best thing about this episode.
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>>28849350
Dragonite was the only thing about this episode.
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I really hope the soundtrack is released when this is all over.
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>>28849323
>liking web-gen shit
Get better taste in animation.
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>>28848280
>no hyper beam on a rocket grunt
It's shit
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>>28849364
Webgen is the future. Get with the times grandpa.
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>bahi jd
>unconfirmed but possibly kou yoshinari
>animation was shit

holy fuck vp clearly has no idea of what good animation is. fuck this cancerous board
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>>28849364
Learn to lighten up and not be so cynical
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The animation in this episode kind of looks like the one that will be in the Sun and Moon anime.
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ashnime has never been good although the alola one looks like it will be an improvement
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>>28849391
I have two eyes.
You know what I did with them? Watch this short with its absolutely awful animation quality.
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>>28849349
The Looker episode alone was better than everything made after the Orange Islands, save for maybe the Silver Conference in Johto.

No Ash made this 200% watchable than everything TPCi shits out nowadays.
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>>28849360
That team rocket theme was on point
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He's a big guy.
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>>28849413
lol no
go shoot yourself in the head, you are worthless
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>>28849349
Ah yes, the Ashnime has such wonderful animation such as "dancing 3d model rotoscoped girl with garish colors on a garishly colored stage rotating for no reason other than to trick the viewer into thinking it's well animated."

Or how about "fight scene with lots of fancy camera angles and 3d movement to mask the fact it's a hold of an animation cell while still using speedlines."

Good animation.
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>>28849381
>A bunch of low-skill faggots who rely on fancy animation software are the next generation of 2D animators

Dark times ahead for 2D animation.
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>>28849391
>fuck this cancerous board
Are you really sure you want to take part in such a massive hate-fuck just to get your jollies?
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>>28849421
4 OU
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>>28849358
And that's a good thing. Dragonite is awesome.
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>>28849345
Too bad the anime isn't 24/7 battles.
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>dragonite uses barrier
>team rocket grunt just as surprised when i fought lance the first time
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>>28849398
Are you sure about that?
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>>28849157
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"Kou Yoshinari is a bad animator" -/vp/
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>>28849345
This looks great but damn do those pokémon noises ruin everything That and the retard using flamethrower on a houndoom
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>>28849433
It pretty much has a good battle segment in every episode
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>>28849345
>shaky cam
>unnecessary 3d background to create the illusion of movement
>"ooooh shiny shit, that's how you know its cool!"
>when theyre not fighting it's still shot-reverse-shot of 3 frame per second mouthflaps
>fucking SHAKY CAM

Nah.
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>>28849456
Even people who do a good job occasionally do bad
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>>28849422
>/padt/ nigger trying to act tough
Awww how cute!
Have some superior animation to keep you company while TPCi fucks you in the ass.
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>>28849468
Wrong.
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>>28849423

>rotoscope

ayy you have no idea of what you are talking about.
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>>28849456
He's nothing without his fancy digital effects, Yoh is a much better animator.
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>>28849479
>literally everything about generations is worse than in the main anime
>le superior


good thing this shit is only shorts and will be done soon
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Those magnemite, grimer, magnemite, and houndoom are dead
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>>28849134
Its just waifufags and lorefags mad they arent getting pandered to.
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>>28849463
How is it retarded? It has 3 different abilities and he knew right away what it was when he saw it. Going for the flamethrower was the best he could do since either it would do nothing or something and he would be able to know its ability.
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>>28849421
I don't suppose you could offer this in gif form could you?
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>>28849484
I'm talking about that one webm with Serena dancing and how it's clearly traced over from a 3D model.

Maybe rotoscope is the wrong term so my bad, but you get the point.
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>>28849423
>fancy camera angles + 3d movement = bad animation
>speedlines in XY

What did he mean by this
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>>28849456
The animation was great. Most importantly the pacing was consistent, everything flowed really nicely.
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>>28849474
>being this fucking pretentious

It looks great. Nothing more to it. Being a contrarion that hate it because of the sake of it is just retarded.
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>>28849522
>everything flowed really nicely

lmao
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>>28849474
>shaky cam
Where
>unnecessary 3d background to create the illusion of movement
It's almost like the entire point of animation is to create an illusion of movement
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>>28849512
That it's bad animation.

It may be entertaining to look at, but it's not good animation in the slightest.
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>>28849345
>houndoom and charizard's noises
MY FUCKING SIDES, i've seen enough
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>>28849544
HOW is it bad animation? Explain.

And there are no speedlines in XY
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>>28849504
First there's the risk of fucking strengthening your enemy.
Secon there's that charizard X should damn well be able to use something other than a fire attack against a fire-type pokémon. Specially against an enemy that could potentially have flash fire.

He's a retard.
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what is the point of these shorts?

>see protagonist in the shadow for like 3 seconds doing nothing
>see dragonite slow walk somewhere and break in doors and windows
>lance frees some voltorbs
>red gyarados swims away

pointless
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>>28849544
Speedlines has not been a thing for 3 years you retard. Stop acting like you know shit. It's obvious as fuck that you don't.
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>>28849454
this short is rightfully getting shitted on for certain animation but that was great.
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>>28849495
>literally everything about generations is better than in the main anime
ftfy

>good thing this shit is only shorts and will be done soon
Agreed, would hate to see Generations turn into a soulless zombie that has long overstayed it's welcome, like the Ashnime.
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>>28849522
>everything flowed really nicely.

For a zombie's animation maybe.
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>>28848378
>or stuff we actually havnt seen?
Mix of both really.
We never saw Looker in Gen 1, but he could have been to Viridian gym while us players werent there.
We never saw Blue beating the E4 but he had to do it.
The fourth short is mostly stuff we did know though.
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They really just need to retire Ash already
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>>28849546
>generic growls
>hur durr lol xddd
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>>28849539
>Where

Check out the Alain and Absol fight

>It's almost like the entire point of animation is to create an illusion of movement

Yeah, but when you can tell it's a lazily textured 3D background, the illusion is broken and it no longer is serving it's purpose. It no longer looks like movement, its just a cel being holded behind a 3d background.

>>28849532
You can like the Ashnime all you want but please don't push the "it has good animation" meme please.
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>>28848438
>nurse joy
This is not the ashnime anon.
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>>28849585
>>generic growls
Are you actually retarded?
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>>28849463
>>28849504
>>28849561
Autism
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>>28848280
>Generations sucks
>Main anime sucks
>Origins sucked(I think)
Will there ever be a Pokemon animated series the majority of the fanbase will like?
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>>28849059
> it's way more watchable than any Ashnime episode after season 1
It´s more watchable than any ashnime episode.
The part of your post I quoted answers your own question btw.
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Well, I think the quality is okay for the low budget they're working with, but it shows.
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>>28848378
This is exactly what the series is and people need to realise that. We aren't going to see scenes from the games retold. Thats what the games are for, you play them yourself and make the story.
This series is just for cool shit that happened on the side that you didnt see in the game.
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>>28849561
It doesn't because the ability is not in effect when it mega evolves you retard. And there's a thing called projectile moves and physical moves. Projectile moves are safer since physical moves leaves you much more vulnerable.
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>>28849627
>Will there ever be a Pokemon animated series the majority of the fanbase will like?
Yes. It's all three of those.
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>>28849627
Everyone outside of /vp/ loves Generations
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>>28849631

you dont have any idea of the budget they are working with.
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>>28849583
>The fourth short is mostly stuff we did know though
Well, it was supposed to be the player who fought gyarados and was mostly responsible for shutting down TR, not Lance.
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>>28849627
Origins. /vp/ is just a loud contrarian minority.
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>>28849643
I hate normalfags.
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>>28849605
It fucking is. Do you want them to say their fucking names like in the english dub? That's the exact same growl that Ash's charizard. Same voice actor and everything. Are you seriously this retarded?
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>>28849654
Non-autists?
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>>28849654

you are no better than them retard

normies think this is badly aniamted and so does vp
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>>28849648
Yeah, but we know Lance was there.

>>28849627
All three of them are liked by a majority of the fanbase. /vp/ hates generations and origins because it´s the tryhard opinion.
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>>28849643
Correction: everyone loves generations except two or three aspies from the Ashnime general and a couple of Fun Police officers
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>>28849647
My wife's bull is a TPCi budget and he told me Generations is by far their biggest production yet
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>>28849673
>normies think this is badly aniamted and so does vp

Wrong. Reddit loves it, everyone praises it. Reddit = normie as shit.
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>>28849668
>Do you want them to say their fucking names like in the english dub?
Wow. You are actually retarded.
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>>28849652
No it isn't. Origin had a retarded Red with a heavy plot armor and Charizard shilling. That Giovanni fight made most people see it did not live up the hype at all.
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>>28849628
Origins was okay. It was the closest to being that one anime most of the fanbase liked.

One that the MAJORITY of the fanbase will like will never happen though since the anime and game crowds are so separate as time went on. Honestly, there just needs to be two solid series for this, a more honest adaptation of the games and the Ashnime for the Ashnime viewers.

Shit like Generations (and Origins to a degree) are just cockteases to what a lot of the game crowd wants but because theyre not the main anime they tend to have a lot lower production values and are in general too short to really do anything noteworthy with. Like at least Origins is a neat OVA but what the fuck can you do with 3 minute bites from events of the games?
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>>28849563
Its fun to watch. I love these more than anything pokemon has put out anime wise in the last 15 years.
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>>28849586
No it doesn't. The background matches the character's movement. A dynamic background gives a much better sense of movement.
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>>28849636
But houndoom hadn't megaevolved yet. And no matter how you want to put it, that guy evidently didn't even entertain the possibility of flash fire being a thing until it happened.
>Projectile moves are safer since physical moves leaves you much more vulnerable
Yeah, of course, that makes perfect sense when using the physical megaevolution with an ability that boosts contact moves. And it makes perfect sense to use a type move that the enemy is resistant to (or outright immune, as was the case).
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>>28849690
So you got nothing huh. Literally generic growls and bash on it for the sake of being contrarion. Don't be sheep.
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>>28849673
Only elitist animation nerds would praise this episode's animation, but what's the point of making animation that only a select few would appreciate especially on a mainstream project like this? The animators on this episode have failed given that the average viewer does not think highly of the animation.
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>>28849675
>Yeah, but we know Lance was there
And now he's taking all the credit, the bastard.
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Dragonite tossing the console away was the only good moment of this episode. The rest was just mediocre as fuck.
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>>28849706
You do know that Houndoom is saying its name, right?
You do know that aside from some exceptions, like Charizard, Pokemon say their names in the Japanese version of the anime?

Also, Charizard's growl is far from a "generic growl" especially when it mega evolves. It sounds like people making silly sounds.
You can keep pretending that I don't have an argument, though, if that makes you feel better about yourself.
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>>28849700
> A dynamic background gives a much better sense of movement

True but it needs to actually MATCH the figure meant to be in motion. It doesn't, the 3D background is easy to spot like in the Malva fight with Alain.

>>28849709
>it's bad to want good animation now.
Ashnime cucks reaching hard.
>>28849709
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>>28849705
Flash fire activated houndom is just a bit stronger fire moces with worse defences that its mega evolved form. Fire doesn't do shut against fire/dragon. Alan would gain a lot if it didn't mega evolve it. Which he knew she would do because that was literally the whole point of the battle. Alan defeating 10 mega evolutions to prove himself to Lysandre so he knew she would mega evolve it no matter what. It was a smart move. No more to it.
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>>28849709
Because that's not the animation's fault. It's the art.
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>>28849692
>what the fuck can you do with 3 minute bites from events of the games?
Showcase a notable moment from the game without cluttering it with useless """character development""" that won't be relevant by the next episode anyway

This is literally all Gen is about. Would it be better as a full length episode series? Who knows. I enjoy it for what it is, not for what I want it to be.
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>>28849709

just beccause people (who have no idea in animation whatsoever) think that this is bad means that the aniamtion is actually bad?
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>>28849705
>using the physical megaevolution with an ability that boosts contact moves

You know the show doesn't follow the game's simplistic mechanics, right? Distance and movement actually matter. Even if it does little damage, a ranged attack is safer than going in, so he used it to gauge his opponent. If you want an analogue play Pokken, or any fighting game.
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>>28849692
>One that the MAJORITY of the fanbase will like will never happen though
Yes, you wont please literally everyone since there´s a few people in the pokemon fanbase that want a show where shit happens and the closest thing we got to it are glimpses of game events in animated form.
But don´t fool yourself thinking the ashnime isnt liked because it is.
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>>28849765
I would rather see iconic battles in the 3 minutes than some shit like what we're getting now
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>>28849777
I didn't say it wasn't liked, I just said it's audience and the games' audience has more or less split. Not entirely but theres plenty of people who play only the games or watch only the show.

Stop getting defensive.
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>>28849766
Yeah, that's how it works.

Animators don't animate things for other animators. They do it for everyone.

The same way a chef has failed if he makes some dish, people try it and spit it out saying "this is horrible".

The chef can't just go "Well what do you plebs know about REAL cooking"
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>>28849754
They never say their full name you fucking retard. Just parts of their name which doesn't make it sound retarded and makes it sound like generic growls for many pokemon.
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>>28849783
We'll probably get to notable battles somewhere down the line. I'd be surprised if they didn't show Ethan vs Red.

So far the Looker and Lance episodes were the best, while the Gary one was the worst.
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>>28849755
The 'good' animation in this episode isn't technically polished enough to be palatable for most though. It's in that awkward subjective spot where people may deem it good or bad depending on their tastes.

>>28849762
Nah, the animation is still awkward. The way the effects are drawn also looks too simplified.

>>28849766
There's no point in making unusual but subjectively 'good' animation if it doesn't appeal to mass sensibilities. This isn't some artsy animated project, it's Pokemon.
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>>28849765
That's fair enough I guess. I just think it could have been neat if they tried to keep that Origins format going. I know a lot of people didn't like the fact it brushed over Gym batlles but we got in some good shit like the Pokemon Tower and Silph. Co and Giovanni actually doing shit while ALSO having Red develop.

I dunno.
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>>28849815
>They never say their full name you fucking retard.
And now we're moving goalpost.
Good job.
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>>28849833
Red vs Giovanni was garbage bullshit do

>fucking rhyhorn OHKO Jolteon

That is some gen 1 anime bullshit
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>>28849856
Not this fucking shit again.
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>>28849856
Why shouldn't a rhyhorn be able to ohko a jolteon with a ground move?
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>>28849755
The background matches fine. It's only noticeable if you're looking really hard for it. You're like those retards who use zoomed in wall textures to claim a game has bad graphics.
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>>28849828

>There's no point in making unusual but subjectively 'good' animation if it doesn't appeal to mass sensibilities. This isn't some artsy animated project, it's Pokemon.

i guess this is why sapce dandy failed
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>>28849856
It might have been on a way higher level than Jolteon.
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>>28849840
>saying a syllable in your name is saying your name

Retard, stop spouting buzzwords when you can't even use them right.
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>>28849862
It was with Horn Attack.
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>>28849866
I'm gonna guess anything I say at this point will be met with "No, it's fine shut up" like the previous posts so why don't we end it here and you can get ready for Ashnime Sun and Moon? :)
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Is this gonna just be animated versions of shit we already knew happened from this point on?
I was really hoping this would expand on the Pokemon world in some way, not retread stuff.
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>>28848280
this just gets worse every episode
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>>28849897
Maybe it was a crit and the rhyhorn was higher level
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>>28849862
It used thunderbolt

>>28849879
It would never be able to do it even with crit unless jolteon was level like 10 with - sp def nature and rhyhorn 90< with + sp atk nature and 252 ev while crit. Don't defend that shit.
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>>28849889
Yeah. When Pikachu says, "Pika!" it's not saying it's name.
You got me, Anon.
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>>28849900
Everything you say is just "no it's shit" so I'm just giving you an equivocal response.
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>>28849897
It was thunderbolt retard. Rhyhorn OHKO volt absorb Jolteon with fucking thunderbolt.
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Objectively, the quality of the XY&Z anime is much higher in every regard.

But for what it is, a tiny web animation short, this is fine.
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>>28849918
>>28849934
Just shut up. I'm tired of this argument.

Other media doesn't have to follow the game's logic to the tee. The entire purpose of Giovanni's Rhyhorn KOing Jolteon with Thunderbolt was to emphasize the level difference between Red's and Giovanni's Pokemon. Giovanni even says as much immediately after the fact.
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>applying game logic outside the game
Autists. Oh right, I'm on /vp/
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>>28849643
/sp/ here, that's bullshit.
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>>28849934
Since when did they say Jolteon has Volt Absorb retard?
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ok nerds show me what good animation is
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>>28849903
Since the beginning it was stated that the series would showcase highlight moments of the games
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>>28849920
>taking the most iconic and marketable pokemon and thinks that's a good example

It's literally made so people will know right away it's a pikachu when you hear and is used in all the dubs. This is not the case for any other pokemon. Jesus you're stupid.
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>>28849963
The anime is literally a product tie-in meant to sell the games (and merchandise)

Don't you agree it would be a lot more pleasing for the viewers if some of the "rules" of the games also applied to the anime?

If some kid learns that electricity does nothing to ground, then it would be fun for them to see a battle in which an electric move is used against say a dugtrio and they don't even flinch.
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I like how the main complaint is gen1 pandering.

Let's laugh at these people.

We were the first pokemon fans. Of course they are going to pander to us. We made them. Pokemon only exist because of us.

All you other people are bandwagoners.
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>>28849954
The entire purpose of Origins was to be an accurate representation of the games. Originfags praise it for that yet handwave these hilarious inconsistencies that even the ashnime doesn't match. The bias is clear.
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>>28849980
Alright. Here's your last (You), Anon.
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>>28849954
Then why not use literally any other move to emphasize the power gap? The anime may have 'Finish it with False Swipe', but Origins gave even less fucks about basic mechanics.
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>>28849972
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlh4jKv184E
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>>28849954
And then Charizard OHKO Giovanni's most powerful pokemon, Ryhdon. Stop defending this shit. It was pure garbage writing.
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>>28849968
Only ability you can get in fire red and in red abilities didn't exists. No matter what t-bolt could never OHKO it.
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Satisfying pokeball tossing, eh?

Also Dragonite is a Mary Sue but at least at doesn't whine
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>>28849995
>hurr durr I pretend like I never cared because I got btfo

Lmao, pathetic
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>>28849997
>Then why not use literally any other move to emphasize the power gap?
Because KOing Jolteon with a move it resists shows just how big that power gap is.

>>28849988
>The entire purpose of Origins was to be an accurate representation of the games.
To a point, but it should be obvious they weren't going to play out turn-based RPG battles after the first episode where Red and Blue fight.
Also, nice strawmanning.

>>28850007
>And then Charizard OHKO Giovanni's most powerful pokemon
Except it doesn't.
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>>28850016
Obviously Origins isn't supposed to be Gen 1 since Mega Charizard exists. It's Kanto in the Gen 6 universe. Anyway yes if there was a big enough level difference the Thunderbolt could KO it. We have no idea what the level difference was.
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>>28850046
Damage calc has been made everytime. It's literally must be a +70 level different, crit, and +- natures. It simply isn't any logic with this. You can literally defend anything in the main anime besides aim for the horn and thunder swellow with this shit damage controlling logic.
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>>28850071
This shit is beyond autistic. I can't deal with it. You must be the same person who talks about "OU mons" when talking about the anime.
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>>28850045
>Charizard used seismic toss
>Rhydon was OHKO by a move that should never OHKO such a high level pokemon

>>28850082
>I will throw out a buzzword that will show him

Kill yourself. Rhydon OHKO a jolteon is retarded in any medium. Deal with it
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>>28850045
>Because KOing Jolteon with a move it resists shows just how big that power gap is.

Ryhorn could have dunked on Jolteon with a tackle and you'd have less autists pulling out damage calcs at the very least. This points out another problem of Origins, it shouldn't have added HP bars and shit because now people will compare it more to the games than a real time fight.

>Except it doesn't.
It may as well have, Red started 6-2 and went to 1-1. It did show how powerful Giovanni was, but considering 4 Pokemon didn't even chip at Rhydon makes it seem Charizard carried a heavy majority of the weight.
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>>28850098
With thunderbolt*
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>>28850071
Wrong it could KO it if Jolteon was on level 12 and Rhyhorn level 60 with a normal thunderbolt. We don't know what the levels are but they specifically say there was a huge level difference, so you must take what the show gives you and not make up a head canon about the levels.
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>>28850122
You can't get a jolteon below level 25
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>>28850122
You musy love the ashnime if you use this retarded logic. Rhyhorn OHKO Jolteon with thunderbolt is retarded. Nothing more to it. It could have literally used any move but used that move. Awful writing.
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>>28850139
What are you talking about you can get one at level 1 all you need is a Thunder Stone to evolve it.
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>>28850114
>Ryhorn could have dunked on Jolteon with a tackle and you'd have less autists pulling out damage calcs at the very least
Writers don't need to cater their script to people who are obsessed with the idea of an animation following the exact formula of a video game.

The Pokemon also didn't stand in one place, attack, and move back to their spot after they were done attacking. That's nothing like the game.
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>>28850163
Didn't see Red with an eevee egg.
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>>28850163
The only eevee in red is given to you at level 25...
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>>28850156
No the current anime is terrible it was good in the past though. Nothing to do with move consistency with the games though, I don't care about that while trying to watch a tv show I just care if I'm entertained. Anyway there's nothing retarded about it, Rhyhorn was on a way higher level so it OHKOed it.
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>that drop in animation quality
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>>28850212
>good in the past

HAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>28850194
You didn't see a lot of things in Origins.

>>28850206
And the only Mega Stone Red is given is nothing. But he has one in Origins. And Giovanni does not fight you with 2 Pokemon in Red. Stop comparing it with the game, there are plenty of differences.
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>>28850212
>most people agree that the XY is the best series yet tied with DP
>calls the early seasons good

Nostalgiashitter's opinion is irrelevant. There's a reason why XY took with it such a big crowd and fanbase.
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>>28850165
Hey, I don't disagree, but when Origins emphasized Speed in the Brock fight and HP bars early, can you be mad when people bring up the Thunderbolt thing so often? I don't want a 1-1 to the games myself, but people are going to notice type compatibilities even if they're casual Pokemon players. Maybe if a Zapdos this wouldn't be brought up as much, who knows.
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>>28850216

>I have no idea of what I'm talking about
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>>28850234
They actually show the guy from red giving eevee to red...
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>>28850221
Yes it was good in the past I enjoy the early seasons.

>>28850247
I don't agree with that, I doubt most people do. If you do a poll only including those watching the current shit show then obviously they're going to think it's best since they're willing to watch that garbage. I'm sure the Pokemon anime was much more popular in the past though.
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>>28850269
But they don't tell you it's level.
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>>28850295
Pokemon in general was much more popular in the past you idiot. The past seasons is a shitshow compared to DP and XY. Especially garbage like the johto season which was pure generic filler.
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>>28850264
looks far worse than the previous ones, I'm sorry you can't see beyond your fanboy glasses
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>>28850311
Are you seriously digging this fucking deep trying to defend this bullshit?
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>>28850320
Thats just your minority opinion. In my popular opinion, the first seasons was great and XY in particular is one of the most boring shows in history.
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>>28850329

I'm sorry you have no idea about limited animation, web gen style and sakuga in general. get educated
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>>28850368
I see you're one of those who defend shit like the infamous pain episode from naruto, good to know you're a retard
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>>28850343
You're the on digging by thinking you can just take what the game had and apply it to a anime. Had they not showed Giovanni's fight, you would have assumed he had used the 5 Pokemon from the game all on those levels too wouldn't you. No you need to take what the episodes give and not come up with a headcanon. Everything on screen is canon and everything not on screen is up in the air.
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>>28850358
>boring shows
>actually has a side series about the rival that works for the team leader battling legendaries together with hoenn champion

Only that is better than your nostalgia garbage. And there's a very big difference between only seeing the first season and then seeing two english dub filler episodes and people that has actually watched every series. People that have watched every series is the only valid opinion. And there DP and XY is considered the best by the big majority. They are also the highest ranked pokemon anime series.

Your nostalgia opinions means shit
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>>28849421
>Tfw someone calls your waifu a shit.
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>>28850408
So you can't criticize anything at ll? Because that's literally the point you're making. Nothing more than that. Are you seriously this stupid?
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>>28850429
>They are also the highest ranked pokemon anime series.

What do you mean highest ranked? Are you saying they got higher ratings than the first series's? I don't know but I don't think so.
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>>28849694
If the new anime has pokemon attacking like this I may have to watch it.
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>>28850462
Ofcourse you can retard just dont make up a headcanon then get try to criticize something for not matching your headcanon.
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>>28850500
Ranked =/= ratings. You can't compare ratings between 15 years since people have moved away from tv as a medium while 15 years ago that was the only option. Pokemom XY&Z is actually the only pokemon anime series making it into the top 100 anime series in nipland.
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>>28850536
It's not headcanon to say that a Rhyhorn OHKO Jolteon with thunderbolt is pure garbage. Stop using buzzwords you don't know the meaning of.
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>>28850567
Yes it is headcanon retard. Was the levels revealed in the show? No so you are making them up (your headcanon) and applying it to the show. But since the show is not fitting your headcanon, you are criticizing it instead of taking the show for what it is.
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>>28850541
Then I don't know what you mean by ranked. Are you saying it sells more merchandise now or something or are you looking up scores on myanimelist or something
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>>28850595
You're literally saying you can't criticize. Jesus you're retarded. A umfirst stage ground pokemon OHKO an evolved electric type with an electric type move will always be stupid. Origin is also established from the start to be much more based on the games then the ashnime. It's just garbage writing. Nothing more to it. Stop throwing around the word "headcanon" when you barely know when you should use it.
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>>28850618
Think Imdb but with anime in nipland
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>>28850648
You clearly don't know what the word criticize means, if the only think you think you can criticize is when a show doesn't fit your headcanon. You can criticize a show for inconsistency, bad humor, bad music, bad pacing etc. not just not fitting your headcanon. Now please if you're going to try and review tv shows, don't try and add your headcanon to it, just enjoy the show for what it is.
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>>28850664
So it's worthless then and doesn't really show popularity.
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>>28850708
Are you retard? It has bee very inconsistent from the fucking start since they established it being nuch closer to the games and then pulling this garbage. Calling a rhyhorn OHKO a jolteon with t-bolt bullshit is not headcanon. It's common sense for literally anybody interested in pokemon. It just makes it look like bad writing. Stop with this headcanon buzzword bullshit.
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>>28849463
>>28849561
>>28849705
>20 years of this shit
>still applying game logic to the anime
You're pretty retarded too.
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>>28850730
Popularity doesn't mean much either of the quality of the show. Ranking gives a much more fair image than ratings.
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>>28850763
Much closer to the games and being the exact same as the games is very different. I mean Red never speaks in the games but he does in this. I don't know if you're too stupid to separate the games from this anime which has a shit ton of differences from the games or what. No it has never been inconsistent, it has been inconsistent with your headcanon, never been inconsistent with itself. Now again stop applying your headcanon to the show and take it for what it is. You should also be just as mad about Giovanni only using 2 pokemon since thats not what happened in the games.
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>>28848589
baka
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>>28850785
No, probably fans of the current show are more willing or care about voting.
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>>28850832
Saying Rhydon OHKO a jolteon with t-bolt is not headcanon yiu absolute moron. It's a fucking opinion shared by literally everyone not autistic enough to defend it and use buzzword incorrectly. Literally just stop you retard.
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>>28850862
Not when the old series has more votes than the newer ones.
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>>28850878
Is bullshit*
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>>28850878
Yes it is retard. Because Rhyhorn can OHKO a Jolteon with a thunderbolt if there is a big level difference. They then specifically say there is a big level difference. You then headcanon their levels and say it's impossible when the show never actually revealed their levels. Take what the show gives you retard, never apply headcanon.
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Fucken hell

Someone needs to make a rhyhorn v jolteon argument thread
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>>28850933
>spams shit about headcanons
>make up his own

That's it. I'm done with you your retard. It's garbage writing and the vast majority will agree. Nothing more to it you buzzword spamming retard. Bye
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>>28850899
If it was actually better, it would be more popular.
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>>28850973
I never made up a headcanon retard. Only you. Show canon is that Rhyhorn was on a high enough level to OHKO Jolteon with a Thunderbolt. Canon.
>Rhyhorn and Jolteon were on close levels so thats impossible.
Your headcanon. Learn the difference.
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>>28850973
Anon, if they ever release an episode where Ash discovers that all greninjas are gay and posts on 4chan, that becomes canon. It is not up to debate, it would be a fact.
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it was cool to see gold

and holy shit they made dragonite look OP
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>>28848557
Red is at Mt. Silver, training. He has an O Blood Type and what >>28848582 said.
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>>28849234
You don't even explain why you think it's bad.
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