>Go Pallosand!
>Go Smeargle!
>Smeargle used Water Shuriken on friendly Palossand!
>It's super effective!
>Palossand's weakness policy activated
>Palossand's attack rose sharply!
>Palossand's special attack rose sharply!
>Palossand's Water Compaction!
>Palossand's defense rose!
>Palossand's Water Compaction!
>Palossand's defense rose!
>Palossand's Water Compaction!
>Palossand's defense rose!
>Palossand's Water Compaction!
>Palossand's defense rose!
>Palossand's Water Compaction!
>Palossand's defense rose!
>Palossand used Trick Room!
>>28834675
>Cherubi used Absorb
>Snorlax used surf!
>>28834675
Is there a reason I'm supposed to believe smeargle would not open with spore?
>>28834695
Doubles, retard
>>28834749
Accelegor accomplishes this better for non trick room shenanigans.
>Growlithe used Roar!
>>28834675
Smeargle used surf :^)
>>28834675
>smeargle
>survivng first predictable turn
>slow shitmon with awful type and mediocre bulk
>relevant to any meta ever
>building and wasting mons for sad irrelevant shitmon
LMOA!
>>28834675
Yeah, good luck finding a trainer with a Smeargle with Water Shuriken who's dumb enough to fall for that
>>28834951
You clearly have no idea how cancerous Smeargle is in Doubles, especially with Moody shenanigans. It's a very huge pain in the ass
>>28834782
The fuck are you talking about?
Accelgor has higher attack meaning it would do more damage, and the move has priority anyway, so speed is irrelevant.
>>28835094
The point went completely over your head, you shit
>>28835094
>there are people this dumb on /vp/
>>28835155
>b-but you can make the defense go high
So what? A fucking Smeargle with a shitty water move should not be even close enough of a threat to warrant some complicated battle strategy. Use a fighting move, genius.
>>28834675
I am hoping that Palossand's sp. defense is retardedly high so that this can be a legit strat.
>>28835343
Water Shuriken is a physical move
Why is everyone in this thread so retarded
>>28835299
...You do realize that it's the ALLY Smeargle that's hitting it's ALLY with the Water Shuriken, right Anon?
why would anyone use Pallosand when Mudsdale is a thing?
>>28835568
Palossand actually gets +2 boosts, not +1 like OP said, and being Ghost has its perks.
That said as much as I love Palossand I feel like this strategy is very flawed and like some sort of poor man's TerraCott unless Palossand has Recover or something.
>>28834675
Doesn't Water Compaction give +2 Def?
>>28835589
>There will never be a move called Aggregate which restores 50% health, or 25% more if there are Sneaky Pebbles for it to remove
>>28835489
>water type move
>physical
no your retarded. gen 7 is compatible with gen 1 through the virtual console which means that it has the exact same mechanics which means that all water moves including water shuriken are special.
>>28835489
You are the retard here. Anon is saying that if Palossand's SpDef is high enough it's going to be impenetrable from both defensive sides without needing all that much investment.
>>28834687
>>28834693
not enough power, retard
stop this autistic meme
>>28835589
>Smeargle fainted!
>Go, Clawitzer!
>Clawitzer used 75% Heal Pulse!
Alternatively you get to use Dark Void next turn.
>Smeargle used Water Shuriken on friendly Palossand!
>friendly
Everyone learn to read pls
>>28835098
It is often double target anyway or in this case it'd be easy to remove the shit ghost that is probably worse than golurk unless its ha will be arena trap
plus gen 7 has the automatic electric field ugly totem, so spore and dark void should leave for once
>>28835562
How the fuck was I supposed to know OP was talking about double battles?
>>28835626
You do know that they confirmed that Sp. Atk and Sp. Def haven't gone anywhere, right?
It literally benefits no one if they went back to type specific stat damage, especially with a Sinnoh remake in tow.
>>28835589
>>28835618
Its pretty much guaranteed to get recover because of its description.
> Unlike Sandygast, if Palossand loses some of the sand from its body, it can restore itself on its own.
>>28835672
>How the fuck was I supposed to know OP was talking about double battles?
>Smeargle used Water Shuriken on friendly Palossand!
>friendly
Why is /vp/ so fucking stupid?
>>28835672
>Smeargle used Water Shuriken on friendly Palossand!
I guess its a fuckin mystery for the ages
>>28835682
Gamefreak is so stupid I could easily see them not giving it Recover. I know the description implies Recover, but Gamefreak might end up glossing over their own lore or just saying "lol Giga Drain"
>>28834675
and opp uses scald or whatever fucking any other move on this slow shitmon and finishes it regardless
this gen is full of watermons and dark mons
like seriously, this ghost is gonna be a slightly better wormadam-sand unless a hidden ability will turn it into a remover or calm mind setter
looks like those regional shitmons a la swalot except with a slightly better type
>>28835672
>Smeargle used Water Shuriken on friendly Palossand!
>friendly
>How the fuck was I supposed to know OP was talking about double battles?
Come on, anon, reading is not that hard.
>>28834675
Mew used Crabhammer!
>>28835703
>>28835719
>>28835700
How was I supposed to get double battle from that? It could have just been a friendly battle.
>>28835752
>proud of its power
>>28835793
Excuse me?
>>28835596
this, although water shuriken is only guaranteed to hit twice isn't it?
>>28835815
Yeah, but +4 Def is still good.
>>28835752
>>28835672
>>28835752
>>28835793
>>28835489
Yes, the high sp. def will cover the weakness created by it only boosting the def, that's what he meant.
>>28835840
>>28835851
Maybe you should talk to me with words and not with pictures
>>28835672
>>28835752
>>28835937
>>28835937
>>28835937
You are either an unnecessarily persistent troll, or the most dense assburger I've ever encountered. Either way, thanks for the laughs.
>>28834675
best case scenario smeargle has 0 attack IV's [or close to it], a minus-attack nature and if you're lucky the enemy leads with an intimidate mon.
Worst case scenario, Klefki with trick.
>>28835682
Yeah just like Regirock!
>>28835672
So dumb
>>28835098
its even worse in 1v1 when they use an imprison+transform set
>>28835953
>>28835990
Hahahaha! You are really fucking funny!NOT
>>28836017
>you disagree with me so your a troll or mentally disabled
You must be a smart guy
>>28836090
I mean, somehow not realizing that friendly meant double is pretty fucking retarded. How else would he have a friendly Pokemon attack him.
>>28836090I get that you're playing along, but you don't have to make it so obvious.
>>28836090
>Unironically using borat as a meme.
You have Asperger's syndrome friend.
>>28836020
>if you're lucky the enemy leads with an intimidate mon.
No luck required!
>>28836090
There's nothing to disagree about. You're either fishing for attention or butthurt over your embarrassing blunder.
>>28836090
>SE Special Move
Chessmate, Atheists
>>28835121
>do more damage
Yeah, like 5 extra damage on the first hit. Then 3 extra damage on the second hit, then 1 extra damage there after. They both have trash attack stats, but accelgors massive speed means that it could use water shuriken before talonflame's brave bird, a prankster trick, or just about any other +1 priority move.
The only practical thing that would stop accelgor there is fake out, or maybe follow me if that diverts friendly fire away
>>28836020
Smeargle won't do shit for damage anyways due to its low attack, water shuri being low BP and Palossand presumably being a defensive pokemon.
Plus it'll boost on every hit so after the first hit he's +2, then +4, then +6, I'd be surprised if Smeargle did more than 5% with it. 2 hits are guaranteed and 3 is average so this strat will take Palossand to +8 boosts in one turn. The correct opening is probably a trick room with Palossand and a dark void with Smeargle though since shuriken has priority anyways.
If he has decent HP/Sdef, trick room (assuming it's slow as balls) and a recovery move I could see this meme being viable.
>>28836113
You're right. Obviously that means double battle and could not mean a friend battle between friends.See spoilered pic.
>>28836121
Yeah. I am playing with you. This is all a game.See spoilered pic.
>>28836127
Yeah, that's me and not you.See spoilered pic.
>>28836137
Yeah, I'm the one here who should be embarrassed.See spoilered pic.
>>28836142
You are contributing so much to this thread.See spoilered pic.
>>28836286
Fuck. I meant to spoiler my pic.
Let's just pretend it's spoilered, alright?
>>28834675
>x used Haze!
>x used Clear Smog!
>any special move ever!
>>28836286
But... If it's friendly, that's still a Double Battle, it'd just be a Multi Battle. You're still a retard.
>>28836266
>Klefki trick with choice anything or toxic/flame orb.
Guys I can't read please help
>>28836286
L O L owned! More like this is [spoiler text]NOT[stop spoiler text] bait am i right, guys!?
>>28834951
>LAUGHING MY OFF ASS!
what did he mean by this?
>>28838568
What did he mean by this? Apologize to him /vp/. Who was in the wrong here? Defend this. What's his name again? What the fuck was his problem? Refute this. Would you? Is he "our" guy? Find a flaw. Now that the dust settled, can we all agree that it was shit? Redpill me on this guy. What was his endgame? Was it kino? Name ONE game that does this. What went wrong? Will this save the Pokemon? Really makes you think.
>>28838610
sup /v/eddit
>>28835626
... Can you promise me that you'll not only kill yourself, but it will be slow and painful?
>>28835626
what on earth is this
>>28834951
Ghost/Ground is pretty great type wise. It's just not proven since Pallo's not out and Golurk sucks.