Pokemon Fanfiction General and Writethread

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TotT: First post claimed for bluewater vessels of all shapes and sizes!

>>28776664

>FIC RECAP:

The Azure Sun Rises by Snapath has concluded. You can find the end, Chapter 4, here:
http://pastebin.com/ixF9zuBn
Along with the full fic here:
http://pastebin.com/Wmd4J8JW

StrikeFlash's Flash Platinum has been updated:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12024240/9/Pokemon-Flash-Platnium

Ee4ee's (wait a minute) Big Shoes to Fill has updated to Chapter 7:
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12125737/7/Big-Shoes-to-Fill
http://archiveofourown.org/works/7944409/chapters/18652240
The first three (now two) chapters have been rewritten if anyone feels like going back to check. Bonus content!

A lot of the links from the last thread were to older stories, if I missed a new update or one-shot in the mix, I apologize and please link it posthaste. Linking to this post would improve visibility.

>>28777004
Since I forgot to mention; all of these updates are SFW.

>>28777004
missed the one at the end with a guy doing something with Zoroark

http://pastebin.com/WkVhBPxg
http://pastebin.com/9yihKa8b

>>28776664
ToTT: Until ee4ee asked last thread I hadn't considered it very much. Even as Jo and Vio took a boat to get from Kanto to Hoenn and then to Sinnoh.

I always imagined the regions being arranged, while perhaps not quite in a circle, in something that was a rough approximation. Kanto and Johto ran along the same latitude as Kalos did, with Hoenn and Sinnoh to the north and located between the two regions. To the south of the shared latitude of Kanto/Johto and Kalos was Unova. The other regions that are mentioned, the islands and what not, all exist either in between regions or within relative proximity of the region that plays host to the game they were introduced in.

But that's all been pulled from my ass. Travel is a thing that happens and the time frame mentioned is irrelevant, and often not mentioned at all.

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Request male guy and female Heliolisk just married fic... NSFW or SFW ok

TOTT: I've yet to write something Pokemon-related where the characters travel a long distance, but I'd have to say that unless the journey is the main point of the story, it should probably be glossed over. How the characters get from Point A to Point B isn't too important unless getting from Point A to Point B takes up the entire story and is itself the whole plot and conflict.

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>>28778219
That's a pretty interesting way to look at it.

I never gave distances any real thought in planning BStF, just that wherever it takes place has to be within 2000 nautical miles of both Hoenn and Alola (which is the fuel range of Michael's boat, see the picture in the fic recap post). That's an obscene distance; about the length between Bermuda and the Azores. But now, planning and writing this Flygon story, I find I need to figure out some sort of greater world layout. The map I'd been leaning on (pic related) when it didn't really matter had some good ideas but there's also a lot of bullshit there.

I'm starting to think I might fix the Kanto-Johto relationship in the middle, Orre north of Johto and south of Kalos, Hoenn offshore west of Orre, Sinnoh north of Kanto and east of Kalos, these regions together acting as a central landmass with most of the smaller island-based regions ringing it. I have no idea where I'd put Unova but I don't really plan on setting a story there.

Then again, I didn't plan on setting a story in Orre until people thought a story about a Flygon blowing himself up repeatedly sounded fun.

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This thread >>28754536 gave me an idea about a horror story about a psychic Pokemon committing serial killings and leaving practically no evidence behind, by framing their murders as suicides.

Depending on how the story develops, the final result may be SFW or NSFW.

When I have more time on my hands I'd write it, but if you want to take it, I have no problem.

>>28778506
Anon... this map is totally shit...

>>28777320

clayton better come back from the dead and have a dramatic rooftop fistfight with Michael ala Beast vs Gaston or I'm going to be disappointed

>>28778547
Yeah, like I said, a lot of bullshit there. When I went to actually look a bunch of this shit up I went back to it and said "no fucking way"

So that's why I'm back to square one.

>>28778559
But is he the beast or Gaston?

>>28778574

obviously the beast, even though he's a bit of a jerk on the outside he clearly has a heart of gold

clayton seems like a nice guy on the surface but he's really a schmuck regardless of what deluded Latias thinks

some straight Mr. Darcy/Mr Wickham shit goin on here

>>28778681
Now I'm imagining a younger Clayton as Gaston, singing tavern songs about how strong he is and complaining a younger Nola is too into her books.

>>28778506
Your interpretation of the world map is just as valid as any other I'd say. Unless there's something in the games that indicate where specifically regions are in relation to others.

I don't know of any though.

>>28778506
Just as a bit of advice should you have any difficulty making an original map: you can always take the boring route that I tend to take and simply assume that the Pokemon world looks almost the same as Earth, with all the regions placed in the same locations as the places on Earth they're based off. As in, in terms of geographical placement on the map: Kanto=Kanto, Johto=Kansai, Unova=New York, Kalos=France, etc. It's not a perfect match--for example, Hoenn is rotated 90 degrees compared to Kyushu--but still.

But you can do whatever you want, as there is no canon world map. However, we do know the following, which you should bear in mind if you want to make an original map: Kanto and Johto are side by side; Fiore is very close to Sinnoh; and according to Oak in Gen IV, Kanto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all part of one country. Also, Unova and Kalos are supposedly quite distant from Kanto and Johto. There may be other hints too, but those are all I know of and it's too late at night for me to keep researching.

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>>28779232
>Kanto, Hoenn, and Sinnoh are all part of one country. Also, Unova and Kalos are supposedly quite distant from Kanto and Johto
This much I knew, and was the central point in the grouping I mentioned (if you can count "Across Orre" as "distant")

As far as mirroring the real world inspirations as closely as possible, this map seems to be the closest. They say Orre is based on where they placed it but using Arizona's terrain, which I'd disagree with (I think it's more just a straight match for AZ) but that is what inspired me to put Orre where it was in my nascent arrangement.

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Bedtime Bump

Hey, everyone.

I'm looking for a fanfiction I read years ago; I think it was on Bulbagarden. It involved Ash (or maybe it was Red) being up on Mt. Silver and finally returning home to Pallet, muscular and with his Pokémon all super-charged (possibly with added mechs, etc.). Everyone in Pallet, notably his mother and Gary (or Blue/Green), is particularly uncomfortable with what he has become (due to his insatiable desire to become the very best). That's all I remember. If the story rings a bell to anyone, can someone give me a name or a link?

Thanks.

>>28778506
>Sinnoh south of Hoenn
>Orre's geography is green
>Fiore is south of Almia
>Kalos bordering Kanto and Johto

This map upsets me

>>28779351
Are all those "based on" statements supported, or are some of them just conjecture?

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Potential anchor post for maractus story

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How's it coming, Gallanon?

Bampf

>>28781639
>Cactass

>>28783941
The alternative was "Maractass". I think I prefer it actually.

I have an idea for a story, and I'd like to get it off my mind so i can finish my first one.
What do you guys suppose is the region that looks closest to eastern europe, and what pokemon would most likely be found in eastern europe.

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>>28785734
forgot my picture...

>>28785734
>>28785748
[Muffled A нy, чики-бpики и в дaмки in the distance]

You could just make up a region, though if you're determined to use an existing one you'll be a bit hard pressed. Maybe parts of Unova hitherto unexplored or they could be entirely fabricated, your choice.

As far species in the area you can use the existing Unova-dex or adjust it to better suit the part of Eastern Europe you're going for if you lot for that region. Forests, tundra, and Soviet blocs all bring specific sets of 'mon to mind.

>>28786355
>A нy, чики-бpики и в дaмки
is it time for Pokemon Uranium to establish a presence in this thread?

>>28786421
fuck i forgot about uranium, never played any of the rom hacks if im being honest.
Might have to play a little of that for some setting inspiration

>>28786442
I haven't played it either, so I can't really help, but it might be worthwhile!

You can get inspiration from the weirdest places. Posting Savannah Masters in the last thread got me wondering how a pokemon mecha story would work

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>>28781718
Busy with other stuff. But still thinking of ideas.

Don't worry I am not giving up on this just yet

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>>28786355

anyone can recommend me some mienshao fics? things like both NSFW and SFW cutefics

>>28789003
did you check last thread? Some recommendations were posted there

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>>28789003
Someone asked the same question last thread. These are the two replies they got:

https://archiveofourown.org/works/7310140

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10506186/1/Mienshao-Discovers-Human-Taboo-Clothes-Edition

I don't know of any other Mienshao fics off the top of my head, though.

>>28786490
Are the Mecha shaped like Pokémon?

Are the Pokémon Mecha sized?

Are the Mecha piloted by Pokémon?

>>28789003
Not a cutefic, but cge's Diaphanous Perception:
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6399898/chapters/14653450

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>>28789486
I didn't really pursue it because I figured nobody wanted to read Battletech-Pokemon crossovers and I didn't feel too enthusiastic about writing one

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>>28789486
Are the pokemon mecha?

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>>28789566
I'd read it.

>>28789591
>Mechapoké
I could get into that

>>28789591
>that image
Even today, I'm still baffled.

>>28789566
Mecha-Mon sounds like it would be better suited to focus on suits designed to augment preexisting abilities with small suits. Mainly because it seems weird for a Steelix to hop into a Gundam.

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>>28789591

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>>28789818
I still don't understand the whole story behind it. only that there was another image.

>>28789818
>augment preexisting abilities with small suits.

>Rotom possesses a suit of power armor
>Some snot-nosed brat has serious experimental military hardware in a palm-sized capsule

>>28789591
>>28789903
For what purpose

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>>28789818
You got it all wrong. The Steelix join together to form the Gundam.

What would Pokémon even need Mecha for?

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>>28789591
I would imagine a Pokemon mecha to look more like this, but I suppose that would work too... as bizarre as it is.

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>>28789848
/vp/ plays host to folk that are many and diverse. Sometimes we see what "diverse" can really mean.

>>28789903
An anon made his own Pokemon toys, among other things if I'm remembering correctly. This, er, Cardevoir, was one such toy. It was all he had on hand, if I'm not mistaken.

Make of that and what it implies about him, good or bad, as you will.

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>>28789996
Zaku Vs Rhydon when?

>>28790002
Shit I kinda though it was something made by Chris Chan in his infinite sense of "Quality"

>>28789949
Match made in heaven (read: hell.)

>>28789962
Kek. Yeah that works. But they wouldn't need them for anything really. Uness they're fighting in space and need to breathe I guess?

>>28790062
It really does look like that, doesn't it?

>>28790106
Kinda, I mean the car does, but the pikachu drawing does not seem like something he would make.

>>28790106
>But they wouldn't need them for anything really
I'm thinking more the suits are made for people to fight pokemon in military conditions (since we know pokemon had military applications and I really should get back to writing Minesweeper Flygon)

>>28789591
>>28789848
>>28789903
Were you guys not here yesterday? He made a new batch of fresh stuff.

>>28790158
Ah I get you. That sounds pretty reasonable, yeah. Like the armor we see cropping up in near-future and future warfare shooters, I'd imagine.

>>28790159
Oh god, what's he make?

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Coming up with this guy's 'speech' pattern is proving a little difficult.

>>28791098
Did you first decide precisely what his intellect is, what kind of communication is demanded of him, and how those function beneath his operating conditions?

>>28791186
>his operating conditions

He can't 'talk' while flying, which precludes talking while he's WORKING, and he can't use walkie-talkies or other similar transmission equipment without first placing them on the ground a couple meters away from him.

What's really proving problematic is he can't 'voice' any stop consonants, which are extremely common sounds. He'll be communicating well under his intellectual capabilities mostly for that reason, and in a terse manner to boot.

At first I thought about giving him a linguistic limitation like that would be a fun challenge, but it's really just a challenge-challenge now that I'm in the middle of it. I don't want to just say he can speak freely though, that ruins the point of the exercise.

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>>28791186
Can you go over the steps you take during that process? I'm at that place in one of my fics.

Anybody got any Red/Yellow fics? If it's in the doc sheet just tell me and I'll look at it when I have time.

>>28791417
Making an example of Ee4ee's case: To employ a flygon as a minesweeper, you must first train a trapinch and a vibrava. The trapinch phase would be a good time to teach the buried-in-the-ground nature of mines and the vibrava phase this concept of using its wings to produce meaningful sounds. But beyond these basics:
• Is a minesweeper pokemon treated like equipment for a team, or as a one-man-one-mon partnership? This affects the pokemon's impression of its role among humans and what kind of communication it will develop naturally and first.
• Given the implied and imposed limitations, its linguistic education will be necessarily constructed to suit. Furthermore, the obvious difficulties will be circumvented before a flygon would be put into this role. A simple device with a few buttons would be enough to allow a flygon aloft to type out simple/pre-defined messages sufficient to indicate mission status.
• Upon activation in the field, when the story's rubber meets road, as a writer the question is where to find the conflict. Is flygon too chatty while at work? Is this one among a few and the only one who wants to talk about things other than duties and is chafing against a newfound need for words featuring b, d, g, k, p, and t that don't have synonyms in his vocabulary?

I don't make a process of it, but consider it a consequence of personality and life experience along the way to Chapter One.

>>28791098
What do you mean by speech? Is he talking to humans in the human language, or is he just making abstract dragonbug noises that are translated by a machine, or something else?

Whichever it is, I can't really think of any advice, though I wish I could. I guess all I can say is that if writing him with deliberately limited speech capability gets too difficult or annoying, maybe you could cause a change to happen partway through the story that removes the problem. Like, maybe someone gives him a kind of wearable device to let him tap out Morse Code messages instead of having to talk.

>>28792019
I think the tabled concept was to expand the Pokedex lore into allowing a Flygon to attempt to synthesize human-compatible speech with wing wiggles.

>>28792019
>dragonbug noises
With angry buzzes, clicks and squeaks and piercing roars, screams, and growls, the dragonbug produces vocalizations that are at once intensely annoying and profoundly terrifying.

>>28792019
Flygon's pokedex details mention their wing vibrations produce an effect similar to singing. I don't think it'd be a big stretch to say he learned to vibrate his wings to approximate the human voice. This method works pretty well in most cases, but voiced stop consonants would prove difficult and aspirated stop consonants impossible.

Right now I'm having him speak without a lot of the smaller function-oriented words, allowing context and experience to carry his meaning where syntax fails.

And for illustration/completion's sake, I'll run down cge's list:
>>28791964
Flygon performs mostly detection duties, but secondarily can perform first-pass clearance. Wing-formed vibrations bounce off the ground and are read by an interferometer in his helmet. At this sign he lands on confirmed-safe ground and does a more thorough sonic investigation, using his own wings as receptors. In this manner he can "hear" the shape and composition of the mine; this is what makes him more worthwhile than much easier to maintain inorganic equipment. He marks them and reports back to his handler, who would know how to proceed.

He has a moveset that facilitates mine clearance as well, allowing him to break them up underground, trigger them vibrationally, or cook them off. He also knows Protect so he doesn't get himself blown up.

The 'verbal' communication was mostly learning a modified phonetic alphabet to spell out the models of the mines he finds, along with a limited set of codewords to describe operations. Most Flygons in service as long as he naturally acquire a vocabulary as they go, and it's not uncommon for many to try to apply it, though few are rarely as successful as he and even he speaks in a very limited fashion.

Besides the reporting of mine types, most operational communication actually occurs using a light/color system. Mines, scanning zones, and other areas of interest are marked with color flags, status updates are coordinated with flare guns and colored lamps

>>28792092
>>28792279
Ah, so it's based off the whole singing wing thing, then. That's a pretty creative idea, actually. Sounds like it'll lead to an interesting story, but that also means my idea of removing the problem with a cop-out Morse Code machine is not a very good idea. The struggle of learning to communicate seems like too important of a plot point to eliminate from the story, even though it might be tough to write.

>>28792430
Well the struggle is long past: Flygon was discharged after his twenty year service term, and his current trainer was his second-to-last handler while in the service. His unique method of communication factors into the plot, but the plot isn't about him learning to speak

The plot is about blowing stuff up real good, and performing their current profession as treasure hunters. If you've spent two decades honing the skill to look at stuff buried underground, there's a lot of lucrative civilian applications you can contract for.

With so much figured out, I don't see what's left to prove difficult.

>>28792552
Like I said before, the difficulty is actually figuring out what he says, what his speaking pattern is. Those six sounds are extremely common, and not being able to use them is more limiting than I first expected going into the project. He's turning out a bit less eloquent than I had initially thought, but considering his personality being laconic fits pretty well. I have that going for me now at least.

I'm not afraid of him looking DUMB, because that belief will be dispelled once I'm in his POV. It's just awkward to structure dialogue around.

>>28792489
I see. I didn't know the learning stage was over, so I thought the plot was to be mainly about the Flygon learning to speak. But I can definitely get behind blowing stuff up too. That's always a fun time.

>>28792611
I think you should ask Flygon how he could solve this problem for you.

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>>28792751
He's too lazy, or would get bored of trying to puzzle it out with me and leave

>>28793345
Since the numbers are well distorted already, suggesting Gemi (mnemonic from Gemini) for "two" to be more distinct from Ilo, Season, and Issi.

>Lazy, bored, evasive.
Then that's your answer: He doesn't care about dialogue. When you write for him, you shouldn't, either.

>>28793579
>Gemi (mnemonic from Gemini) for "two" to be more distinct from Ilo, Season, and Issi.
That's not a bad idea. I'll probably end up replacing 'giraffe' with something too, since using animal words in pokemon is always different than IRL.

(for reference, both Isso and Issi came from NATO codewords for those numbers; bISSOtwo and soxISIx)

>>28793619
It looks like NATO's now in the business of saving players from bad Scrabble draws.

>>28792489

this Flygon sounds like the equivalent of a bomb sniffing dog, I don't really expect much in the way of intelligence of individuality if they're willing to stick around with the same trainers doing the same job for 20 years

>>28795593
>this Flygon sounds like the equivalent of a bomb sniffing dog,
On one hand, that was more or less the exact inspiration. On the other hand, it's no different than a long-serving army engineer going around with a metal detector. I happen to know several servicemen and servicewomen with long careers and good measures of intelligence and individuality.

Midnight bump

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>>28795722
The servicemen likely had some sort of a life before and something planned for after said tours. The prelude in particular is surely missing from Flygon's experience. Flygon is probably nearer to a Spartan warrior but with a greater focus on the job. We haven't even considered ball policy—was he in ball (or PC) during every moment that wasn't training or service time, was he bunking in a sandbox in the barracks, or did they just let him out to help find the ever-lost remote control and permit him an evening of liberty as long as he didn't try to burrow a sand trap behind the rec room billiards table?

This is a Pokemon; not an EOD from a volunteer force. No matter how parallel their lifestyles and mindsets become to that of common humanity, a pokemon's perspective will never be that of a human in a pokemon suit in the same position, and any story that forgets this is set to be called out on forgetting.

That you can say, "[Flygon] is no different than an engineer with a metal detector," demands an immediate answer to, "Why aren't you writing for an engineer with a metal detector, then?" The linguistic disability isn't unique so that's not an excuse. If you know that it must be at least a pokemon and not a human in that role, you must also know why, lest you have difficulty expressing an essential part of this story's message.

>>28798891
Several ready answers depending on how in-depth you wish to dig.
1) military personnel get up to all sorts of wacky shit to entertain themselves when they're not pounding dirt and shooting things or whatever their MOS has them doing. Pokemon in their employ likely has similar experiences, the time regulations permit pokemon to be outside storage (which for a world as integrated as this, I figure is often, and encouraged)

2) I never said anything about these two being full active duty all the time, and even if they were, the dearth of deployment opportunities would mean they would ultimately find themselves serving with in their own (or others') communities in some fashion.

3) Both from what we can gather by inference (Geopolitically, from a world with many island nations, and socially, from a world where you're set to travel the world before puberty) and from what we are told (developers have specifically mentioned the Pokemon world is much less prone to violent conflict, we rarely if ever hear about warfare) professional militaries would ultimately take a 'just in case' role, and have difficulty finding work requiring their central purpose besides being an overfed, overarmed, and overly powerful Gendarme. As combat engineers (because neither laying nor clearing mines, nor both combined, is an MOS even in our world where they tend to be deployed far more readily) they have plenty of public works projects, including things a Flygon would be particularly suited to. I haven't been mentioning them because, as you say, why waste effort on narratively unimportant information? Clearing minds will be the chief focus in two if six chapters, acoustically analyzing structural integrity gets a minor appearance in one.

>>28799820
I don't see how these several ready answers resolve the problem of determining how to portray Flygon's part in a dialogue.

Also, given these three spoonfuls of world-building and raising an eyebrow at the defensive note, I feel like you're accidentally making a case for switching the backstory from military to police, unless you're specifically aiming to create a story about a post-war Pokemon world seeking a new equilibrium told through vignette.

boop

Since it seems topical enough; What do you folks think of Victory Fire?
Spoilers where due, please.

>>28799981
Ah, no, I thought you went off on a trek against the character having a personality that's anything but strict obedience at total seriousness, since the message you replied to was defending his 'intelligence and individuality'. Suffice to say that seems really strange to me.

I think I've ironed most of the speech out so far, now. Some bits will be more difficult than others but they'll be isolated cases

Really I can't claim to be standing on any serious ground about the specifics of the career choice: the whole thing started as a throwaway example for a conversation in a thread a couple weeks ago. People said they liked the example, I thought it might be fun, so here I am writing it.

>>28801525
I don't like different canons mixing, but as with most of the fanworks I like, VF throws my dislikes back in my face and makes me enjoy them.

The cast is diverse and interesting enough to keep me invested despite still not knowing where exactly the plot is headed. I didn't see the recent developments coming, but I guess maybe I should have, seeing as it's a pmd story.

I also appreciate the art style and the consistent updates.

>>28779351
I thought Orre was based on Arizona.

>>28778506
This is is kind of interesting did you make this up, and what regions did you base some of the ones like Iro, Icolena, New Kalos, etc. on?

>>28802655
I have no idea where it came from and I have no idea what it drew from, especially after I went to look some of the stuff up and it was all backwards. I kept it because I thought it was neat and creative but now that I actually need it I find it fails terribly in its function. And yes, Orre is based on Arizona.

>>28799820
>>28802244
Now that I've given up on sleep and traded my phone for my computer, I once more have a trip.

>>28798891
>>28799820
>>28802717
I'm assuming your basing this stuff off of the gulf war/Afghanistan war. Even if you aren't I'd recommend either reading or watching Generation Kill, it pretty much sums up the lifestyle of these troops.
Its not even near the levels of 'action' portrayed in ww2/ECT. Combat in the middle east was slow and boring, nothing would happen for days on end; and when combat did start it was quick and unsatisfying.
Depending on how you set this world up, some of these people joined the war for different reasons. Certain events (9/11), nowhere else to go in life, or just simply already in service.
For the pokemon though, I'm guessing much like an actual bomb sniffing dog, he was just sent over there without much in the way of service or what have you. Military animal trained from birth or something.

>>28802835
Honestly I was most approaching this from the standpoint that they may have NEVER been deployed somewhere, never served 'in anger'. US Nat'l Guard forces do just as much on the homefront as abroad, if not more. When I drilled into it (throwing up the earlier three points) I realized that military in an extraordinarily peaceful world like Pokemon would probably more closely take the form of the national guard than the active military; a whole bunch of volunteers that serve on weekends and a small core of full-timers who make sure stuff runs smoothly.

That being said, what the pokemon world does have is an eerie amount of terrorism, which might require police-like actions above the levels police can nominally provide. That's why I specified Gendarmes before; military or military-like units with their primary focus being law enforcement and internal security.

>>28802976
So you're making it more of a SWAT based unit?
Still very interesting either way. Personally i would like to see how a sort of gulf war would work in the pokemon universe.

>>28802976
This makes me wonder why acts of terror aren't met with greater shows of force. Outside of the obvious "it's a kids game ya dingus" answer.

I guess restraint is a key component of their doctrine.

>>28803102
>So you're making it more of a SWAT based unit?
I'm not sure the US has any analogue to Gendarme-style unit. The US Coast Guard serves an extremely similar role in maritime affairs, I think that's as close as it gets.

>>28803115
>This makes me wonder why acts of terror aren't met with greater shows of force. Outside of the obvious "it's a kids game ya dingus" answer.
I'm going to try to unpack this question in the story most gently, careful as disarming a live bomb

>>28803115
I'm not sure how it fits into the series canon, but that new Generations series seems to suggest that there actually are shows of force against terrorism, at least within the canon of Generations. Episode 2 depicts a police raid on the Team Rocket headquarters at Viridian Gym, and mentions that another raid took place at their other base under Celadon Game Corner. Perhaps in a universe that wasn't depicted in a kids' game and didn't require the protagonist to always be the hero, the world would work more like it does in that Generations episode, with police and similar forces fighting terrorism instead of ten-year-old kids having to take care of it entirely by themselves.

Of course, one could always choose to split the difference and say that the cops do fight terrorism but aren't good at it, meaning that plucky child protagonists end up doing a good portion of the work without their help.

>>28793345
Shouldn't flygon be able to pronounce z but unable to pronounce s?
If the wings vibrate to make sound that'd make more sense to me

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>>28803115
>This makes me wonder why acts of terror aren't met with greater shows of force.
They are. It's called sending an overachieving 10 yr old Trainer with an OP'd starter and a couple of traded mons outside of the local Pokédex to curbstomp the local team.

May you notice that in the games that do deal with this kind of stuff (most notably in D/P/Pt), it is precisely when you are made to walk *away* of that specific path that suddenly the "terrorist" teams gain the upper hand.

Greater force ≠ Greater spectacle, X/Y Kefkaweapon notwithstanding.


>CAPTCHA
>EUCLID FOR RENT
WHAT HAS SCIENCE DONE

...Is the Pokémon world Euclidean? I mean, it seems to be a world where it is possible to teleport, fold/unfold matter and continuously (rahter than discretely) twist the direction of gravity.

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>>28803760
I had originally also planned him to turn all voiceless consonants to voiced ones, but adding that to the current restriction rendered his speech mostly unreadable. I picked the most limiting of the two and stuck with it. Looking at it from an acoustic angle, voiceless sibilants might be hard but not impossible to master; they just require near-random vibrational patterns to produce variations on white noise. It would come down to technique, finding which 'patterns' create the brand of sibilant you're looking for.

>>28803818
>It's called sending an overachieving 10 yr old Trainer with an OP'd starter and a couple of traded mons outside of the local Pokédex to curbstomp the local team.
Not going to lie, this was PART of my proto-explanation, though I had it termed more politely as 'Work with local community leaders to temporarily draft enterprising and capable citizens'

>>28803497
True, I'd forgotten about that.

>>28803818
I guess I equated shows of force with more military flavor. Weapons and mil-pokemon and what not. That does make a lot of sense though, as far as the whole protagonist business goes. It just paints a dim(ish) picture of peacekeeping forces. Or it implies an alarming degree of strength in these terrorist cells. Maybe both.

As for the world being Euclidean or not, I'm going with no. Going either way though, the technology available is still staggering.

>>28803873
>Anti-Terrorism is on par with sending a medal of honor receiver into the building.

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Any new stories?

Something I'm thinking while im writing Desolate Seas...
So of course for the setting of the plot the pokemon world has ships, and with ships come cannons. This means gunpowder has been created in the pokemon world to some extent.
Would this mean funs exist too, muskets and flintlocks, ect?

>>28804341
the recap contains a good amount
>>28777004

Might also wanna delete that image there

>>28804374
namefag fell off apparently

>>28804393
cge's Waterlogged has some bits about firearms, I recommend giving it a read and not just for that reason. I can't remember whether the ship the MC starts on had cannons though.
http://archiveofourown.org/works/6399277

>>28804378
post too old, rip

>>28804436
Thanks for the suggestion, will check it out.
But I was talking more about the mystery dungeon universe.

>>28804378
>>28804436
Don't really see how its lewd no vagina,breast or asshole visible. Only reason it would get deleted is if a fagot reports it for no reason.

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Anyone ever addressed the subject of a trainer butting heads with a pokémon naturally inclined to be exceedingly dominant? I'm having trouble coming up with how that dominant nature would be expressed, since love for one's companion alone won't make instinct, personality, or culture magically dissipate overnight. Exacerbating this problem is that the trainer is strict during actual training, but exceedingly meek when dealing with other people. While their pokémon is reserved, it was raised in a culture that values strength and strict social hierarchy. It becomes confused with its position in relation to its trainer's, especially once it evolves. While asserting dominance doesn't necessarily mean violent confrontation, the trainer's lack of understanding could potentially lead to physical injury, to say nothing of betrayal. I just wanted to know if anyone's read/written something close to this topic.

>>28804947
I think you just did anon

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>>28804947
Haha has anyone written any stories where two Pokemon touch each others' heads just wanted to know haha.

>>28805304
Having a precedent would give me a means of comparison at least.

>>28804947
Sounds like the 'mon would be constantly attempting to do whatever it wants to do. Of it cares for it's Trainer, then perhaps it would limit what it tries to do to things that seem logical to it. This is an expression of that care for the trainer, and it shows a degree of respect. I could just walk outside and do what I want, but I respect my Trainer enough that I won't, even if he's a pushover. But if I really want to do something because I think it's important, I'll do it, even if it disregards my Trainers commands.

The confusion might exist more when not training than when training. During training, it can recognize the shift in tone and body language and react according to tradition: comply with what the bigger badder dude tells me.

This might push it to want to train frequently, when the world makes more sense, and even bring training home with it in some way; here injury can occur, but it is born out of desire for order and alignment with worldview, not malice. Alternatively, the Pokemon can grow resentful of this strange dynamic and outright flee its Trainer in hopes of finding someone "better".

This says nothing of how the Trainer reacts and changes, if at all, to this situation.

>>28804509
You can do what you want, I'd say, since it's your story. You can make up whatever universe you desire. But if you're looking for historical context: according to the internet, naval cannons appeared in the 1300s and especially the 1400s, and the flintlock was invented in the 1600s. Earlier variants of the flintlock exist, though, like the matchlock and wheel lock, which you might want to research if the 17th Century seems too modern of a time period for the story you're writing.

It should also be noted that while guns do not exist in the canon Mystery Dungeon universe, the PMD world does have iron spikes that can be thrown as weapons. They appear to have been forged instead of being found naturally, implying there are weapons manufacturers, or at least independent smiths, in the canon PMD universe. So it's not too big of a stretch to say that if gunpowder gets invented, some Pokemon would begin crafting firearms as a more advanced version of the metal spikes.

>>28804374
Depends on the story.

If you're writing about how some cutemons hold off a Dragon invasion in a sea fort, it makes sense. If you treat them as upgraded Rocks and seeds from PMD, it'll work.

Oh, and don't forget that a bag full of powder makes a great imitation C4/grenade.

>>28804947

there's this fantastic Halo/Pokemon crossover (and I rarely ever read crossovers but this one worked) where Master Chief ends up training a bunch of Pokemon and his Nidoran basically challenges him to a fight for dominance each time it evolves before it will listen to any commands

John does some fancy judo to beat the snot out of his newly evolved Nidoking and it's pretty obedient after that

>>28808602
>crossovers
Either they're really bad or they're really great. I've never seen a crossover I've mildly enjoyed or found myself merely disinterested.

>tfw writing new characters
wew

>>28809976
It's a fun experience. The issue is I play enough tabletop pnp rpgs that I invariably start thinking of them in alignment terms.

>>28810301
Does that mean you're having a problem of characters converging as they settle into one of the nine categories?

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>>28810383
Nah, I just make characters for fun in Pathfinder and sometimes to be used in sessions against my players so it's one of those things that crosses my mind when I'm thinking over someone I might want to write about or have show up in an existing work.

Pushing characters around into boxes is a fun little exercise since you get to ask a bunch of what ifs and boil down their motivations, but all it ends up doing by the end is reminding you why the alignment system catches so much flak.

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Had a pretty shitty day. Anybody got something lighthearted/cute? Would really appreciate it. :)

>>28810624
have a story about a Ledian wanting to do cute things with her trainer. SFW
http://pastebin.com/hGzptWX5

>>28810624
Here's a Misdreavus caught in a bottle:

http://pastebin.com/23fN2ts9

I just saw Stalker(1979) as part of some Cheeki shit im looking at for a fic on the side.
I would say i got the movie, and that im satisfied.
But i didnt need to sit down for three hours for something i would have gotten in one. Or perhaps thats the point of the movie.

>>28811800
Stalker is memorable as much for the fact that it was nearly unique—A film produced for art's sake rather than the promotion of State interests and largely without interference—as for its content. It is certainly not a taut production, but it's largely effective at using its pacing to ensure that the viewers share in the sense of impatient apprehension.
Compare to the television series, Lost, which spent a few more than three hours of screen time to make less sense and have an unsatisfying conclusion.

Posting is back to normal

>>28814209
Oh? Something happened? Not that I'd care much.

>>28815885
Posting died overnight

>>28817132
Is this going to be a regular occurrence now?

>>28812782
Second look at slob roommate Mieshao?
>that Azumarill

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>>28818613
Is that its stand?

>>28818755
No that's Azumarill. He's ripped.

>>28818613
>Second look
O===
¦ Mienshao used U-turn!
¦ Mienshao returned to Wendy's drive-thru.
O===

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>>28818613
Sucks I'm too busy to do anything about it

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>>28823647
...This is cuter than I expected.

>>28824712
It's based on this, in case you're curious:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWJXG2SS6AA

>>28825078
...That is also cuter than I expected.

Had a rather interesting idea for a fic while taking a dump.
A group of mon's overtake a small town. and they are then engaged in combat with a (insert region here) equivalent of a SWAT Team .They end up completely underestimating how capable humans are at armed combat as the mon's find themselves getting picked off one by one by armed soldiers.

>>28825360
best cute stories involve asshole trainers interacting with cuddly naive pokemon and then crushing their hopes and dreams

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Anyone ever made mention of cigarettes in their work? I ask because Taro smokes Jumpluff Cigarettes, which are flavored with young dandelions and it occurred to me how strange it was writing that out in the text.

>>28827747
Nola's a smoker but I think that's the only time it came up in BStF

>>28827747
Cigarettes, cigars, and pipes.

>>28826474
Get off the thread, Robert. </wrongmeme>

I'm not even sure it's the right meme. It's not like I even care anyway. You are all lucky that you have seen me even use a meme in the first place. You have been visited by the Choroy of Understanding. Gib "Like" and pray Amen, and I guarantee we will make /vpwt/ great again.

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>>28827793
>>28827871
Gracias amigos.

>>28776664
So, what are some headcanons you guys tend to apply when writing your stuff?

For example, I know it's probably just a graphics limitation and it's based on a southern region of Japan, but I was sort of thinking of Hoenn as being in the equivalent of poke-world's pacific northwest.

>>28826322
But that begs the question: how will the pokémon change their tactics in light of this knowledge? I don't imagine they'd just line up for slaughter.

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>>28828131
What about it speaks to you Hoenn? I'd say it's closer to Sinnoh more than anything, considering I can take a step outside and make the judgement for myself.

>>28828207
I suppose Sinnoh would be closer, especially as it's based on Hokkaido which as the "north" and "pacific" parts already down.

Something about looking back at the map and such just made me think a bit of Washington State from during my visits I guess.

>>28828118
Why is Glaceon so cute?

>>28828230
Fanart and having things on her head that look like bangs, I reckon.

>>28828230
I can assure you that we are not 50% water routes. If anything, the western side is just that one route before Maylene's city over and over again.

>>28827747
People smoked shitloads for hundreds of years before anyone found out their harm.
If this happened in real life, why not in the pokemon universe?

>>28828230
It's probably because you love her.

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I've come to terms with the fact that my writing consists of a week of uninspired dribble that makes no sense. As the week after entails an extreme amount of motivation and talent, as i rewrite all that bullshit and make it worth something.
Another screenshot for inspiration artyom[spoiler/]

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All are links to NSFW shit. I remember reading most of these around the 2011 mark. Not too old, but I still feel like they need to be remembered.


This shit right here is the one that I remember the most and what awakened my fetish for Absols. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the originals hosted intact online, so these download links will have to do.
http://www.4shared.com/office/qEmXFwQwce/megadeth425_-_Solaceon_Daycare.html
http://www.4shared.com/office/E6EdJwUxba/Nidoran_Duran_-_Solaceon_Dayca.html


Just your typical anthro pokemon smut really. But it had me hooked when I was reading it.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6519242/1/Aoshi-s-Moemon-Adventure


This one is kind of a serial killer story with some lite adult shit. Dunno if it is still continuing or not. Wasn't too bad.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6640086/1/Saffron

>>28804947
Yeah. It's called "Charizard in the anime."

>>28829922
Ah, so that's where megadeath's story was. Thanks.

>>28826474
This creates the bully

>>28828131
>headcanons

A good lot of them. Made a thread with about 3-5% of what I have so far

>http://www.pokecommunity.com/showthread.php?t=369940

Just to note some short things:

* There are 20-something types.
* Children usually go on two "journeys" during their youth, if they are Good™, they might end up doing more.
* Arceus did not create the universe, only the galaxy where the Pokémon world resides.
* "Abilities" like Mold Breaker or Levitate are less abilities and more marketing / umbrella terms for various phenomena with similar observable effects, in as much the League cares.
* Humans are Hard Mode, at least compared to us.
* Gym rematches tend to involve more of the puzzle-solving that we see in some of the games than just "walk in and challenge leader" that we see in eg.: Pewter, Ecruteak.
* Only the winner of their own national (/regional) Conference League gets an invitation to challenge the E4.

>Hoenn
* It's located somewhat far from Kanto/Johto, at least more than Sinnoh is, and is noticeably closer to the tropics if not full right inside the area.

>>28829933
I kek'd because I kek'd.

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Does a PMD fic still count as a furry fic if the protagonist really hates being a pokemon?

>>28833873
Whether the character likes being a Pokémon has no bearing on if the _fic_ counts as furry. All a furry fic needs to do to qualify is to deal with the anthromorphization -in form or function, but the internet focuses on form- of animal / animalesque creatures.

PMD fics following the line of the PMD games (human wakes up as a Pokémon) fit almost right in the alley by definition.

>>28833873
Does it really matter? You should be less worried about what others presume about your work without having read it and more about what you intend to say and how well your readers believe you've said it.

That said, it's PMD, which means it features animal like critters that were once people doing shit, and because the definition of furry is subject to semantic drift like any other word is, someone is going to say it's furry without having read it. And that should be largely irrelevant to you.

>>28833873
If you're already posting here, i wouldnt need to worry about that.

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anyone interested in shilling their cutefics to me?

my pupper died 2 days ago

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/r/ing a cute story about a male Mudkip who spends a day at the Slateport beach with his best friend Treecko doing anything from sipping Soda Pops to making a sandcastle until the Mudkip comes out to his friend and they have gay sex as the sun sets behind their horny bodies

>>28835148
That intensified at an alarming speed

>>28834805
Here mate. Not sure if you're the guy that was asking for them earlier.
>>28810763

>>28828138
I would imagine that it would initially start off using more guerrilla tactics while overtaking a small village. A similar thing to the tactics terrorists orient around, strike fear.

When encountering I would imagine that they would be completely overwhelmed. The tactical complexity and advanced weapons would be something they could only dream of.

So my initial thoughts would be. #1 retreat and regroup after a initial slaughter. #2 Try to allocate specific mons to a role that would best fit them to counter a new threat. #3 Try to grab some weapons/resources for themselves in order to stay competitive.

Think Iv'e been playing too much deus ex for my own good.

>>28835981
What if the team sets up a secure perimeter? How do they fall back then? Some could try flying out, some could dig, whatever movement abilities they might have - but if this group of mon have been caught off guard, that could imply that this SWAT like team came excellently equipped and ready for those that might try such tactics. After all, it's a whole town they're trying to take over, I'd imagine the humies came prepared.

Hey guys.

Sorry I haven't been updating my stories lately. Senior has been a pain in the butt. And I'm feeling a bit sick.

Please forgive my absence

>>28835981
I'm actually reading a fic about pokémon terrorizing humans through organized attacks right now, so it's intetesting that you had this idea. The concept is workable, but unfortunately, the fic I'm reading is hot garbage. The pokémon are just humans in fursuits. So if you decide to make something of your idea, just make sure you avoid that.

>>28836576
Probably not going to write it least not right now

>>28836164
You bring up a good point.
What I would do in this case if I was the commander behind the troop movement would be to move in the armored division first (APC's light tanks, shit like that) Through the major freeways for faster transport. That will only be hitting them from several main points (about 4).
The next step would be to set up a perimeter around the city in order to keep it contained, all roads blocked along with some sort of anti air capabilities set up to prevent them flying away.

The finial step should be simple. Now that they are surrounded, either push forward in a circle formation or bomb the living hell out of them like they are fish in a barrel Artillery would also work just as well.

>>28837097
why would the pokemon be attacking them in the first place?

>>28837121
Fuck if I know, it's a purely conflict oriented idea. That and I can't think of any other ideas that have already been done before/are cringey as fuck.

The pokepuffs ran out at wallmart or something.

>>28837178
Why not something thats already been done?
Alot of people have written about the same war, and they all have their own interpretations.

>>28837203
Guess I just like to be original... At least to a extent.

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>>28835221
Anon please, I could've easily made it more intense. Like how after the Treecko fucks him and Mudkip asks if they could do this again, the Treecko would shake his head no and say he already has a girlfriend, but he just wanted to make the Mudkip happy. Dejected, the Mudkip goes home and hangs himself.
Or, or
As the Mudkip and Treecko lay on the beach satisfied with one another's cumshots, the Mudkip suddenly jolts awake, only to find himself in his bedroom, all alone, the entire escapade being nothing more than a dream and a cruel reminder that he'll be alone his entire life.

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Im working on the setting for the fic im writing after pirates n' shit. Heres what i got.

>>28828131
Never really applied my headcannons to my writing. But i do have a few extremely crazy ones.
1. Main pokemon series takes place during/after a big war. inb4 game theory [spoiler/]
It explains to me why, at least for the first few gens why there are so few adult men in these regions. I don't believe it to be a nuclear war or whatever the hell that fucking moron on youtube thought on the subject, and of course pokemon existed since creation or something.
2. I don't necessarily agree with Archeus creating the world. I think its just another big legnendary that controls the flow of life in some sorts.
3. The human world from the main series and the pokemon world from PMD are in the same universe and exist in different star systems or something. Eventually one world is going to discover the other and chaos and doubt on the creation of the universe will ensue.

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>>28838159
fucking i have forgotten how to use spoiler text.

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>>28828131
Legendaries are naturally strong pokemon that often have unusual abilities but are otherwise just normal pokemon with no special roles or bearing on the continued function of the world/universe.

Portraying them as literal gods is about the only interpretation that bothers me.

>>28838415
Im pretty sure in the PMD universe, if the legendaries decided to take control the regular pokemon would take them down easily.

>>28835148
>>28837878
What's with you people, like, seriously? You were supposed to laugh at the cringe! Not join them!

>>28838003
>Using the anime world map that actually has a NY-like Unova
Ma bro, ma boi.

>>28838591
>in the PMD universe
To be fair, in the PMD universe, Legendaries are powerful only when they are not fighting. Be it because of battle mechanics of what have you. They are limited to the role of skeleton keys or something, and they are significant mostly because of their unicity than because whatever amount of power they might hold.

Whereas in the human-inhabited Pokémon worlds in canon, Legendaries are (at least the high tiers of them) powerful despite their fighting. They just serve different purposes across canons.

>>28837178
>>28837306
You could address the classic "civil rights" issue and actually do it justice. But you'd need to do a lot of worldbuilding beforehand, so you have a concrete headcanon of the whole world to work with. You know, basic stuff that people usually flub, like pokémon's intelligence, human government, existing legal agency (if any) for pokémon, etc. It might sound like a daunting undertaking for some, but for those who love worldbuilding, it would be a fun exercise.

>>28838415
Not you, but randomly adding to this:
>In my headcanon, legendaries do not suffer from the usual weaknesses of their type, nor can their version of various attacks be resisted or ignored
>Mewtwo is the only exception to this because he is man-made. (though Mewtwo compensates with a massive movepool and the ability to shutout and shutdown his weaknesses)

Another random note since I'm being a fag: anyone ever written or explored the idea of pokemon deciding to purge humanity or something?

I mean especially psychic types.

Any Pokemon trainer fics? Specifically those from the manga if anyone cares. Romance would be appreciated.

>>28839608
I'm sure many people have written about that, but it's probably all garbage. I bet my right arm that every fic on that topic has either OP psychics, humans-in-pokémon-skin, or some terrible combination of both.

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>>28839608
I thinks there's some huge, multi-author thing where some legendary got pissed off and psychic-ly told every pokemon they were going to wage war on humans while turning off their combat inhibitors or something, pic-related.

I don't need stories to be about cheesy friendship powered non-sense like in the source material, but I just can't get into that hyper-edge shit.

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>>28828131
Headcanon bullshit time?
Headcanon bullshit time.
>While every type has their own intelligent members, Pychic-types aren't the only ones over-represented. Dragon, Fairy, and Ghost-types are also known to have an disproportionate number of particularly intelligent members.
>Lesser animals exist alongside Pokemon in certain categories, like insects and fish and smaller reptiles. Pokemon represent a sixth taxonomic Kingdom, evolving heavily convergent with Animalia and some of Plantae, out-competing the Animalia representatives of many of their ecological niches and thus rendering them extinct
>In Mimiga's Ears world, ontology is severely weakened, propped up by a latent psychic process known as 'cherishing'. Failure to cherish can lead to spontaneous failure to exist.

>>28839457
>You could address the classic "civil rights" issue and actually do it justice.

And for an encore, he could negotiate a lasting peace treaty in the middle east.

>>28839608

yes there have been plenty of series like this, try Poké Wars: The Subsistence or Pokemon Revolution to get a taste of how good/bad the typical el revolución stories tend to get

>>28839966
>>28840223
>>28840887
ughm when you guys put it that way... Yeah, ugh. don't wanna touch that shit.

This is what I get for listening to The Megas and thinking of Pokemon Fic premises.

Well, maybe a story about an aging Lopunny and her champion defending their title one last time might be cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGpJRycj5Q4

>>28840339
Hey, it won't get done until someone actually sits down and does it. At least Mega Man finally got its much-deserved civil rights fic. That only leaves every other fandom of a series that deals with a societally-integral "other".

>>28840940
>The Megas
Read Abyssal.

>>28840977
Anyone good enough to write a fic about the ramifications of sapient Pokémon in the main verse that doesn't fall into one of the countless traps that concept brings wouldn't write fanfiction. They'd write original stories instead.

>>28839457
I kinda though about doing something about that, but decided that was not the best way to go around doing it. Again I feel it's kinda been done to death, and the past few fics I've read were really preachy about it. Ended up being a mixture of avatar James Cameron's Avatar (a movie that bored the piss out of me) and the Simpsons parody of Star wars "Cosmic Wars" But enough of that.

I think to make it a bit more interesting. The reason they attack is for resources. Pretty much a group of pokemon marauders overtaking a small town for personal gain. That way you avoid any preachy dialogue and go straight to the action of old woman getting kicked, young men fighting for their lives, and babies having babies.

>>28841074
I agree, no need to preach. There are plenty of reasons besides "if corporations are people then so are we" for pokémon to see vying for power over a group of humans. Especially in a more rural setting, basic fighting for resources makes enough sense to not offend the reader.

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>>28840977
>At least Mega Man finally got its much-deserved civil rights fic.

What

>>28841166
I think it's simple enough for it to work.
But my issue with it is that I may never work on it furthermore.

>>28841210
Not thread related so I'll make this succinct: [/spoiler] READ ABYSSAL [/spoiler]

>>28841266
Welp there goes my spoiler. Look what you made me do, anon. All you had to do was read it. Now all is lost.

>>28840282
>While every type has their own intelligent members, Pychic-types aren't the only ones over-represented.

One of the stories I have slated to be written never-ever has psychics as, technically, the least intelligent typing. Researchers and rights-activists alike were fooled by their apparent intelligence for years until someone discovered that psychic type IQ scores were proportionally related to the highest IQ of any individual in the area. When tested in a psychic-ly isolated environment, they often became too agitated and belligerent to even complete the testing. They're considered pests at universities and businesses where they find comfort in piggy-backing the intelligence of smart folk.

>>28841286
I feel like I have accomplished something.

>>28828131
The show, games, and other media all exist in universe as works of fiction that depict the reality of the pokemon world with varying degrees of accuracy. Ash is a character played by a very short adult, swirly eyes are a special effect added so kids would know when a pokemon was out, and so on.

The champion, e4, and gym leaders are decided via tournaments held every so often. It is expected that any sufficiently determined challenger would be able to beat them all eventually, but the effort required is more than most are willing or able to put forth. Doing so is a de facto requirement for breaking into competitive battling.

Kanto, johto, hoenn, and sinnoh were formerly the ransei empire, which was forcibly dismantled after the war with unova, but the four nations remained very close politically and economically.

>>28841439
You'll accomplish more once you finish that chapter.

>>28841588
Patience my dear anon and wank

>>28841769
>just give me more time to avoid writing at my leisure
You can just admit it. It's not like we're any better.

>>28841992
Yeah pretty much.
Least I can't say I'm not working on it right now.

Fuck all this Unova talk got me riled up.
I never even finished black 2, i should get on that soon.

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Only Viridian, Chapter 2: "Fixing Shoulders and Stantler Killing Boogaloo" is up:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12134785/2/Only-Viridian

It is way too fucking hot in my room fuck how angry so cal weather gets.

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Are there any good Sci-Fi stories?

>>28841498
>
Kanto, johto, hoenn, and sinnoh were formerly the ransei empire, which was forcibly dismantled after the war with unova, but the four nations remained very close politically and economically.

I LOVE this headcanon!

>>28841498
so... ww2?
We're getting a little dark or a little over dramatic depending on which of the two you reside in

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>>28842481
Hm, sci-fi-mon, huh?

>Cruising the Galaxy in your kickass freighter
>Got your poke-bros manning stations
>Suddenly SPACE PIRATE ROBERTS wants to battle!
>The two of you exchange shots
>He gets your shields down enough for a boarding action
>Not on your watch!
>Confront him in your cargo hold and have a pokemon battle
>Need to use pokemon that won't fug up your ship
>He's using pokemon that WILL fug up your ship and a weezing to fuck up life support
>Your Gardevoir simply knocks them into the airlock and you send him and his shitmons back on their way
>Cargo secure.

>>28841498
>Kanto, johto, hoenn, and sinnoh were formerly the ransei empire

I'm assuming you don't mean Ransei as in the island, since its geography is quite different from the four regions. That said, I can get behind the idea that they used to be part of a nation that happened to be called Ransei, but wasn't the same Ransei from Conquest.

>>28842184
You totally should. It's been a while since I beat it myself but I remember liking it.

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>>28842704
Which Pokémon would make a good team to travel the stars with?

>>28843925
If memory serves, the Gothitelle line gets their power from stars (unless that was just some silly headcanon I read elsewhere).

>>28842422
Is it just me or are you making characters to say each other's forced-sounding Japanese names in every line of dialogue? I'm pretty sure most of them are a little dated for a circa 2016 setting.

>>28843246
>own black 2
>got victini when it first came out from that event
>scared of deleting it along with the file for game
fug

>>28845715
>2012+x
>Not using glorious PHBank alongside TWL_loader or similar, depending on if playing on DS, DS ROM or 3DS.
.

>>28776664
>Image not saying "How do you sudowoodo my fellow grass types?"

>>28842422
I see our little redhead has never had to actually come to terms with the fact that her partner is still, for all intents and purposes, a beast.

>>28843925
>>28845658
Also, metagross is probably one of the best choices.

>Can secure itself to any ship surface
>Doesn't need to breath (I think)

Only problem is I'm pretty sure most rayguns and lasers would count as fire attacks.

>>28845690
I'll have to edit that somewhat then, didn't notice their names were showing up that often. The names are actually Japanese, though that was intentional; people from Kanto, Johto, and Sinnoh all are more likely to have to have such names. Same goes for French names in Kalos and American names in Unova. I figured it was fitting, though I can see how that might be a bit heavy-handed.

>>28846702
That entire sequence was pretty interesting to write out. I hope it managed to imply more than just that.

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>>28842704
>You enter a uncharted nebula.
>A Slug Cruiser is waiting for you, no doubt pirates.
>Mind control subsystem countering your Gardevoirs psionic abilities.
>Scanners are malfunctioning due to nebula interfering.

What do?

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>>28843925
>>28845658
>>28847089
>>28842704
>>28847693

Cool concept. Would consider it a project if I wasn't already busy working on something. Maybe sometime in the future though. My thoughts are as follows:

A Pokemon with the ability to use Gravity would be useful if you would like to make the story realistically detailed considering how little time it would take for the human body to atrophy from a zero G environment. If the ship produces artificial gravity (or if Pokemon are determined to be immune to space atrophy), it's still useful for spacewalks, or exploring moons/ asteroids with very little gravity.

Personally I would write it with two trainers romance and drama are my modus operandi along with Pokemon they can understand through some nifty space age tech. Then again you could also make the crew all Pokemon and go for a Mystery Dungeon setting.

>>28849020
Pls I don't need inspiration right now

>>28849020
>over time ships start to break down, become unrepairable. No one really knows why, but some ships start to take the form of old mystery dungeons as the crew goes mad.

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>>28850029
>In the grip of madness, the inhabitants of these "Mystery Dungeons" often produce incomprehensible power sources and technology
>Are you a brave enough Pokénaut to hazard the dungeons and sell off the loot?

>>28850801
>an entire invisible operation by multiple governments run in the background of society. It manipulates trade routes, creates hazards. It traps ships in empty space, creating more and more dungeons, more and more insane men. All this for the idea that someday one of these madmen will create something of use to the rest of society.

>>28847508
I know they're real names, but Taro in particular is kind of old-fashioned. You come off as a weeb who learned a few moon names from animu and decided to use them without any further understanding. While Kiyoko is also a name, readers may think that you've just misspelled Kyouko.

I probably sound like a turboweeb, and that's because I am. Cultural authenticity is important, though.

>>28850884
Loving this idea
/vpwt/ collab/shared universe when

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>>28850884
>You survived the dungeon and all its crazies and made it out with the loot
>Now comes the hard part: finding a buyer who won't put a Bullet Seed on your back

>>28851172
Seems like a fun project to keep the thread going. What would you like to see in PokéSpace?

>>28851256
Metagross wired up as the ship's central computer, and maybe also pilot+navigation+sensors+comms

I'm wondering if someone can set up a gdoc and we can try to turn this into something real, get a couple writefags working on it, something definitively /vpwt/ y'know?

>>28847508
By partner I meant "the thing she has sex with"

>>28851172
That sounds like an interesting idea. Has /vpwt/ ever done a collaboration before?

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>>28835245
No that was me. I'm also the guy that asked for mienshao stuff last thread, but not this guy though >>28789003.

>>28834805
Pic related

>>28851289
>>28851406
Plenty of room in the thread and it'll help keep it bumped up.

Here's a question FOR EVERYONE, how would intelligent Pokémon set up their space government?

Did they rebel from a human group and set themselves up in some corner of space?

Are Pokéballs legal?

Trainers limited to 2 or 3 'Mons only? Seems like they'd be much closer to a family if they could all talk.

>>28851460
You can assume from PMD that the pokemon world is a few centuries behind from the human world, so you could worldbuild with them trying to form a really basic form of government thats in the human world.
Personally i would love to see a republic of some sorts.

>>28851460
Making a gdoc would let potential writers reference it after the thread 404's though

Also if PMD-verse like we're thinking, humans wouldn't really be a thing, no need to declare independence

>>28850910
Damn, and here I thought I'd done enough research on their names and their meanings. Thanks for this man, I'll put more work into non-English names I choose to use on the future.

>>28851381
Ah yes, of course. Also, coming soon:Conflict!

>>28851564
>>28851489
I've been experimenting a bit with this kind of concept. If anyone remembers me, I'm that faggot who posted with pictures of oranges two weeks ago. Lots of shit happened so the story I was working on got delayed but it deals with Pokemon from the PMD world encountering humans who somehow got transported from our world (assuming the concept of Pokemon never existed) and that kind of governmental shit ensues.

Hopefully the first chapter should be up later this evening. Will post when it is.

>>28852469
>>28851564
>>28851489
Here you go, try this one out:

https://go[deletethis]o.gl/Sgy[deletethis]F3a

I'd like to see what you come up with. Make sure to post stuff in the thread too, to keep it bumped and hopefully attract new people.

>about to write
>To anxious to write
>start writing
>anxious as fuck
>too embarrassed/anxious to post
Honestly, I just do it at night when I'm too sleepy/tired to care.

can someone recommend me cutefics that are similar to the mienshao-discovers-human-taboo fic in style?

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>>28851172
>>28851256
>>28851406

I really like this idea.

>>28849020

>https://pastebin.com/ZuiLhbt4

Got the itch to write this after all. Here you go /vpwt/. I might be inclined to continue it as an ongoing series.

>>28851289
Went with a(n outdated) Porygon, but Metagross is cool too.

>>28854242
>I might be inclined to continue it as an ongoing series.
I hope you'll let other writefags in on it, because this sounds like it could be a fun thread-wide project desu

I'm a lot more interested in it than all the political stuff that's been going around lately at least

>>28854613

>I hope you'll let other writefags in on it, because this sounds like it could be a fun thread-wide project desu

Of course. That's the fun of it. Maybe we can have different perspectives and side stories for each writefriend participating in this "universe"

>I'm a lot more interested in it than all the political stuff that's been going around lately at least

It is interesting stuff to be sure!

>>28852744
>https://go[deletethis]o.gl/Sgy[deletethis]F3a
>deleet this

3.5/made-me-chuckle

>space stuff

I... want to read more of this.At least of the ideas people have and of planning. It's for a book.

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>>28838874
>implying writing fanfiction isn't already cringy to begin with

>>28856132
>Not writing laudable fanfiction that is in the top percentage of laudable fanfiction

>>28856309
If I could, I would.

>>28856132
Bumping harsh truths

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>>28858211
Given sufficient cynicism, anything and everything can be construed as cringy.

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daily reminder to make sure your fanfics has trainers cherishing their favorite tools

I know mimiga does

>>28859137
I wanna die

>>28859362
If you die who will ensure all special doggos are cherished

>>28859471
I'm sure there are plenty of people who can cherish better than me. This chapter's fucking bonkers difficult on top of actually being larger than the last. It's even about the un-cherishing of special doggos.

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>>28859508
>It's even about the un-cherishing of special doggos.
pic related

Also I swear to god if MoM becomes one of those
>these two loved each other
>something happened
>there's no longer love
>this story is about finding love again
fics I will stop reading it and retroactively not read its prequel

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>>28859577
the prequel is nice, MoM has alot of dialogue and overextends itself.
Kinda like my mom

>>28859577
It's naive to believe that such a topic wouldn't be extremely relevant with the setting I've constructed. And especially so from the person's perspective who retains the love in the first place, as they are the narrator after all. I wouldn't quite say it is ABOUT finding love again, but one of her major desires and forces of plot would definitely be to rekindle it or twist her own as to not lose it entirely or drown without.

I mean, you don't have to read it. Nobody does, and I get the intense feeling that I shouldn't give a damn who does and doesn't if I'm making the fic I want to make. If it ends up being about finding love again, then the only thing that matters to me is if it's believable and well-written.

>>28859889
I really like MoM so far. And I'm SUPER looking forward to the next chapter.
I just hope it doesn't fall into the tempting circular plot trap, where we spend dozens of hundreds of words reading about how these characters end up right where they started.
Stories about recovering those feelings can be great as long as they add more to it than just 'get back'. Please please please give me more than just them getting back. It's been way too long since I've seen that plot done well and if anyone can do it it's you.

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>>28789591
There we go.

>>28859878
>MoM has alot of dialogue and overextends itself
This meme isn't going to be killed off anytime soon, cuz we're on the 36 page waiting chapter where feelings are discussed and created.

>>28859911
The epilogue itself is not concrete until I write the first words of the second draft, but everything leading up to it is already very much solidified in my head. We'll see if I'm a shitter or not, but at least I'd be a shitter who dedicated themselves to too many words.

>>28860051
I for one thought the amount of dialogue was just fine

>>28850029
>>28850801
>Mystery Hulk

>>28854676
>>28854613
I have to mention this, but I can't see anything but final stage Evolutions to be in command of larger vessels. I can't help but giggle at the thought of someone using a Bulbasaur to lead a military or other important ship.

Mid Stage 'Mons could run their own small ships, but I really can't see a first stage 'Mon in charge of anything greater than a plastic spaceship toy.

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>>28860181
Pikachu, I choose you!

>>28860190
>No one talks to Captain Oddish that way son! I'll have you firing waste from here to next cluster for this!

>>28860051
>This meme

>Dialogue-heavy
>A meme
I like it. I wouldn't worry about levels of dialogue m8.

>Concern remains
>Faith takes root
>Hope knows it's worthless considering my track record of fics I've read but makes a showing anyway

Can't wait for the next chapter. Good luck with the rest of it, and I'm sorry to hear it's grinding you down.

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Is it considered bad luck to have a Dark type on board your space ship?

>>28860453
no, just means they're camouflaged against windows.

>tfw you're trying to go to sleep but with nothing else to think about your mind starts coming up with all sorts of shit for your fic
I hate having to turn my computer back on every ten minutes just to take notes.

>>28860648
that happened during chapter 2 of desolate seas, and i havent had anything since.
Fuck man, i have no motivation to finish this but im actually making a very thought out chapter anyways.
Its like my brain is telling me to jack off but im making art while doing that.
plus im expecting a huuge earthquake here in CA

>>28860674
How much more for it to be finished? I'm eager to read it.

[spoilers]You live in the LA area?

>>28860648
>tfw you're trying to go to sleep but you don't
>Not even thinking of cheesecake fics soothes you

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>>28860674
>huge earthquake in CA
uh
is that hitting anywhere near Orange County?

>>28860674
>but im actually making a very thought out chapter anyways.
I've written an entire half chapter on bedtime notes alone.
unfortunately it's not the next chapter, it's Chapter 14

>your spoiler
Please don't die.
>>28860733
You too.

>>28860696
>trying to go to sleep but you don't
this was me last night tho
Do cheesecake fics NORMALLY help you? Maybe we can make some Mimiga sleep aids. I'd be happy to help if I'm good enough to contribute.

>>28860694
you're close but not close enough with that spoiler
>>28860733
you're fucked
Yea when ol' reliable san andreas might burst this weekend don't expect my chapter out for a while.

>>28860743
For the longest time, imagining some fluffy cheesy retarded shit has been my go-to sleep-aid. There's very little drama or emotion so it doesn't disturb the process of falling into REM, it's generally a genre designed to be the absolution of comfy and warm, and I'm also romantically depraved so it works perfectly. They are also made up on the spot and aren't anything anyone's actually written. I don't read fanfics.

>>28860765
>I don't read fanfics.
Oh. rip.
>tfw I'll never be able to get Mimiga-senpai to notice me now
Well good luck with the sleep thing anyway.
I'm going back for my third attempt now.

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>>28860743
Thanks. Here's hoping, eh?

Also:
>notes for chapter 14
Wow. You plan out well in advance don't you? Then again I'm contrasting that with my general lack of any sort of real planning outside a few notes I make in my head.

>>28860754
Oh, joy. I can't wait to fall through the floor and then ceiling down into the kitchen below.

>>28860834
>>28860743
>notes for chapter 14
>planning ahead
dude i already had the entire plot for Desolate Seas thought out before i even wrote it, i got the idea after reading ears (thanks btw mimiga) hopped in the show and out i come with a fucking novel sized plot if it becomes that big.
Maybe thats why im having an issue with motivation, my mind already thought everything out and its just a chore to put it on paper.

>>28860754
>>28860674
Oh man I sure am ready for the Olympic fault to bring dat thunderbird back and sink half my town.

>>28860860
I know what that's like. Filling out world-building documents for campaigns and that one novel that's sitting on the backburner made me realize just how much ground I actually have to cover and it killed my motivation in much the same way.

Just a matter of forcing pen to paper. Finger to key. Whatever you do. It's working out okay for me, too. Except now I realize that I keep coming up with more entirely different plot threads for new works that beget new characters and eventually it's just a dizzying decent into a huge web of characters and I can't remember how I got there.

I lied about the sleep thing. Taking longer in my notes than I expected.
>>28860834
>You plan out well in advance don't you?
Eh.
Planning is all over the place with BStF. Normally I overplan to a crippling degree and I'm trying to break myself out of it. BStF didn't even HAVE a plan until Ch.3, and between then and Ch.7 all sorts of plans changed drastically. After that I got its general structure pretty much set, but my 'real' planning consists of exactly two things;
>A notepad doc containing really laconic summaries for chapters
>A notepad doc that acts as a scene idea slush pile
And even then I'm not trying to strictly adhere to them. For example the back half of the most recent chapter I dropped was originally planned for the chapter after it until I found myself writing it out right there. So I rolled with it.
Chapter 14 is the exception, mostly just because it has a really important thing in it. So I have a thou and a half of it pre-written which I'll probably heavily revise when I actually get there, but it's just to give it a shape for later.

>>28860860
>Maybe thats why im having an issue with motivation, my mind already thought everything out and its just a chore to put it on paper.
I'm wondering if there's some merit to this. I've been trying different chapter planning methods because as far as I'm concerned BStF is just a giant experimental project, and I find that while I'm much happier with each chapter now that I at least have an idea where they're going, it's also taking me longer to write. It makes a better finished project so I'm rolling with it.

For Combat Engineer Flygon I might go back to just writing as I go, just for a little proper compare-and-contrast.
Speaking of, I've put that on hold until I finish BStF. Partially because splitting motivation is bad, and partially because it's consumed an idea for another project and the two work EXTREMELY well together. So who was looking forward has to wait, but it'll be worth it!

>>28860913
Honestly ive just had problems coming up with ideas. Ever since i was 12 i've had this wild idea for a book and whenever i get an idea my brain immediately tries to add it to that.
>>28860932
Usually with me is i write something extremely uninteresting, i read it over the next day and rewrite it completely. Usually works out fine but so far ive rewritten the entirety of chapter 3.
>>28860694
About chapter 3, i hope you are not disappointed but,
The rest of this is not featuring Brisa at all, only mentioning her barely at specific points where Sid will have to face the facts. And we're never going back to treasure town again.

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Thinking about it, i think I've lost interest in writing desolate seas is the fact that ive been going over this Stalker idea way too much.
Being mentally fucked by yourself is a bitch

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>>28861006
Just let it out. It's not like you get paid for that Pokémon fanfiction, right?

Right!?

>>28860932
Ahh, I see. I _had_ a document I was using to try to plan out ACPC but after just one chapter I went back to my old ways. I guess something about outlines just repels me; probably because I know I tend to improvise anyway. Might be largely owed to how I wrote every paper in college without any sort of structure other than what I had laid out in my head.

>>28860972
>>28861006
Separate them and take them both on in their own time. You could do both at once too, though that might not mesh well with your mode of thought. Still, nothing really stops you from juggling multiple series other than time constraints and your own ability to be dedicated to seeing them continue.

>>28861035
I'm going to finish Desolate first, just scribbling ideas for the stalker one. No harm in that it just occupies my thoughts.
>>28861030
donate to my patreon

Morning bump

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Good luck writing today. Or enjoy reading. Really though, have a great weekend whatever you decide upon.

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Serious question, what are some things in the summary of fic that instantly scares you off?

For me is "with his new friends" and variants, it triggers my autism.

>>28864000
A question. It's so juvenile to put one of those clickbate "Can they succeed when all odds are against them?" questions in your summary, which add absolutely nothing descriptive about the story at all. Even worse is when it ends with "Read to find out!"

>>28864161
Thanks for reminding, i just want to slap the author every time i see those summaries.

>>28864000
Any meme.

Related: Fuck you.

>>28857337
Yes you can haz.

>>28860648
...What, you can't just take notes with pen and paper?

>>28864000
>things that scare me off.

* "something something Mature Ash"
* "[canon character]/OC pairing"
* "[Movie Name] but as a musical!"
* "this is my [number]th fic please be gentle"

Also what is this whole chershing thing? Did I miss an internal meme?

Did that one anon finished writing that Brendan/Zinnia smut?

>>28864000
>I'm bad at summaries
This is like stamping "don't bother reading" on a story.
>SYOC
Like I want to read a meandering story with a dozen Mary Sues because the author never came up with an actual plot.
>Mention of some character being abused
Oh jee, I wonder this story will be about.
>Something something labs and experiments
Translation: a character gets a superpower
>So-and-so has been able to understand pokemon since birth
Making a character a special snowflake and hand-waving it before the story even begins is almost impressive.
>Posing an either-or question: "Will main character manage to X, or will he be forced to Y instead?"
The answer is usually obvious and a spoiler.

>>28864000 Here, another one of mine is.

"[insert canon characters here] meets the mysterious [OC], (..)"

Original characters have to be slowly integrated into the world and not shoved like a hungry anon's member into the depths of his waifu.

The story could even be good but poor presentation ruins everything

Also glad too see those ones too
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>>28864361
>>28864400

Maybe im a little picky about what a read, or a lot.

>>28864618
Everything you said, however in rare cases i may give a chance to "lab experiments", but in most stances it is exactly a super power lottery, unfortunately.

>>28864000
Oh, I just remembered another one that's particularly infuriating: spoiling a major plot point in the summary just for clicks. I read one fic where the MC supposedly transforms into a pokémon, but I wouldn't have known had the author not thrown it in the summary because they wanted those furry views. That event was actually supposed to be the red herring ENDING to the story, and there were likely at least ten chapters leading up to it. But the author spoiled it right in the summary. I just don't understand.

I don't like transformation fics, I just liked one of the mons in the tags.

Bump limit reached. Anyone making a new thread?