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>your bro >the set you run with it Hitmontop Assvest

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>your bro
>the set you run with it

Hitmontop
Assvest with Rapid Spin
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>Mamoswine
>Expert Belt
>Adamant
>Earthquake
>Stone Edge
>Ice Shard
>Ice Fang

I don't remember exactly how I did his EVs. Takes out at least a couple Pokémon every fight, though.
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>King's Rock
>Skill Link
>Tail Slap
>Bullet Seed
>Rock Blast
>Sing/U-Turn

that ~43% flinch chance is one of the most thrilling things
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Wobbs
Rocky helmet
Counter
Mirror coat
Encore
Destiny bond
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Bulky Bro

Gogoat (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bulk Up
- Leaf Blade
- Milk Drink
- Earthquake
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Splash'
Tackle
Flail
Bounce

All you ever need
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Leech seed
Substitute
Taunt
Toxic
Level 1
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>>28742884
why not horn leech if you are going for balk
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Skarmory @ Rocky Helmet
Ability: Sturdy
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Whirlwind
- Stealth Rock
- Brave Bird

Open to criticism
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>>28742933
doesnt do the damage that leaf blade does and with leftovers and milk drink I dont need any more recovery
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Life Orb with Adaptability. Tri Attack, Dark Pulse, Ice Beam and Nasty Plot.

Modest nature, but I'm thinking I should change it for Timid. Would the speed boost be sufficient?
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>28742755

Magic Guard with Flame Orb

Modest with EV's in HP and SpA

Cosmic Power
Stored Power
Roost
Dazzling Gleam
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Lairon @ Eviolite
Ability: Rock Head
Adament nature
-Head Smash
-Iron Head
-Earthquake
-Curse

If M-Aggron got Rock Head instead of Filter I'm pretty sure it would have been a great mon
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>>28743077
Of course, If I ever go with a boosting set and the mon is decently fast, I got with a positive speed nature.
I also prefer Download for the chance of a general boost to all my moves instead of one, but that's just me.
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>>28743133
So you run Timid with Nasty Plot?
Yeah I know Download is more versatile, but that 2x STAB on Tri Attack is monstrous.
Also if you're facing a mon with high SpDef you get fucked.
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>>28742755
>>28742933
>>28743077
>>28743133
>>28743155
nice
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>>28743152
I actually run a Modest, Choice-Trick set on my Poyrgon-Z, but I'd go with Timid if I ran NP.
That's true, but you should probably wait to sweep and bring in a wallbreaker if their Special wall is still around.
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>>28743170
>Modest, Choice Trick
How do you use it? I'm only familiar with the most common sweeping sets for Pory-Z, I've never used Trick on it.
Do you often get outsped and OHKO?
>wait to sweep and bring in a wallbreaker
Probably.
Or run Hyper Beam and murder Blissey.
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>>28743198
It's 3 coverage moves and Trick.My set is basically this.

Porygon-Z
Ability-Download
Item:Choice Scarf
-Tri Attack
-Dark Pulse
-Ice Beam
-Trick

You hit a high enough speed tier to move faster than pretty much the entire unboosted metagame while retaining decent power thanks to a Modest nature and Download.
It's best used as a revenge killer and Trick is for ruining walls like Chansey.
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>>28743225
Alright, thanks.
Does the lack of a life orb or nasty plot boost preven you from hitting as hard as you'd want? I suppose not if you use it as a revenge killer, but is it viable as a suicide lead? I mostly play BS singles.
What's the rest of your team?
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>>28743261
I wouldn't suggest it as lead imo, but it could be usable.
I don't have a set team, I usually just build around a certain Pokemon or two and go from there.
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>>28743272
Ok then. Thanks for the tips anon
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Ability-Clear Body
Item:Leftovers
Curse
Rest
Iron Head
Sleep Talk

Careful 252 HP4 Def252 SpD

Anyone got any idea how to make the rest of regi remotely viable?
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>>28743296
No problem; you could try an Agility set if you speed, coverage and decent power, especially if you use a Life Orb. Only real problem with it is finding a way to set up.
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>>28742755
>Arcanine
>Leftovers
>Adamant
>Intimidate
>Morning Sun, Flare Blitz, Extreme Speed, Wild Charge
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>>28743306
Assvest regice +nature for sp. Def
252 sp. Def 252 HP 4 sp. Atk
Tbolt
Ice beam
+2 other special moves
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>>28743307
The problem with that is that running Agility + NP only gives me two move slots, so one coverage move
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>>28742755
My bro is Slowbro
He has Slack Off, Calm Mind, Scald and Psychic with Leftovers and HP EVs. He's such a bro, tanking shit left and right.
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>>28743350
I meant Agility by itself with Tri+two coverage moves. Get switched onto something that boosts your Sp Att with Download, boost, and then sweep with +1 and LO strong attacks.

It's why I use my Porygon as a revenge killer, it always misses OHKO's just barely, even at +1, but with Life Orb too? Now that's some damage.

Anyway,I'm gonna head to bed now, was nice talking to you anon.
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Holding Leftovers, Prankster ability
Taunt, Will-O-Wisp, Knock Off, Recover
Impish Nature, 252 HP, 88 Defence (to survive M-Pinsir Return at max health), 168 SpD.
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I'm actually one of those people that run a gimmicky rain set on it.

- Fire Blast
- Bug Buzz
- Quiver Dance
- Hurricane

252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
Timid Nature

Held item:Lum berry

Ability:Swarm
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>>28743399
Fire Blast under rain?
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>>28743414
I'd imagine it's for fire STAB in a pinch, as they chose it over Fiery Dance.
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>>28742755
Slowbro @ leftovers
Trick room
Flame thrower
Psychic
Slack off

I use him in double battles.
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>>28743414
That's pretty much a filler move and doesn't get much usage.
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>>28743333
I was trying Regice with maxed sp and speed + lifeorb but wasnt as good as i expected it to be.
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>>28743077
>Inflicting your lovely Porygon2 with malware instead of just giving it an Eviolite
>Calling it your 'bro'
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>inb4 legendaries can't be bros
It's my favorite mon anyway.

The set I use for VGC:

Tornadus @ Focus Sash
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Taunt
- Hurricane
- Role Play
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>>28743424
>not running eviolite
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>>28743306
>>28743333
My Regice was 252 sp atk; 252 speed; 4 Hp
Used Weaknes Policy
Rock Polish
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Focus Blast

I was thinking of using these Regi from event, all with HA. Hail and Blizzard on Regice.
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>>28743492
>malware
>implying it's not a homebrew upgrade
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>>28743492
>using a defensive pokemon
It's like you want to get taunted
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>Weavile
>Life Orb

>Ice Shard
>Ice Punch
>Knock Off
>Brick Break

Weavile has been my bro since Pearl, and my absolute favorite.
The one I have now is the very first Pokemon I bred, when my friend was teaching me how the process worked.
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>>28742755
Aerodactyl @ Focus Sash
Ability: Unnerve
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Rock Slide
- Taunt
- Tailwind
- Protect

Doubles
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>>28743155
Fuck off
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agility set
timid nature
212 speed EVs

fast shep
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Farfetch'd @ Stick
Defiant
4 HP 252 Atk 252 Speed
Jolly
- Swords Dance
- Slash
- Night Slash
- Leaf Blade

Also,
Delibird @ Choice Band
Hustle
4 HP 252 Atk 252 Speed
Adamant
- Ice Shard
- Ice Punch
- Brick Break
- Seed Bomb

I like single stage mons a lot, okay
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Unown @ Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Hidden Power [Psychic]
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Gastrodon @ leftovers
Storm Drain

Scald
Earth Power
Ice Beam
Protect

Baiting scalds then switching this in feels so good
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>>28744632
How do you even make this work.
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>>28744648
I simply don't
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>>28742755
Cobalion
Swords Dance
Substitute
Iron Head
Close Combat
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Timid
Life Orb
Heat Wave
Thunderbolt
Roost
Hidden Power Grass
Fuck you Thundurus!
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>>28744486
Good taste!
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Dunsparce w/ King's Rock
Serene Grace ability
Max HP and Def

Glare
Rock Slide
Bite
Roost
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ヤミラミ (Sableye) (M) @ Black Sludge
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Foul Play
- Octazooka
- Tickle
- Trick
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Yanmega @ Choice Specs
Ability: Tinted Lens
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Bug Buzz
- Air Slash
- U-turn
- Ancient Power

How to use:
1. Click Bug Buzz
2. Win
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>>28742952
It's Skarm's best set and exactly how I run my bro!
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>>28742755
>Dragonite
>Weakness Policy

2.5x (and 1.5x speed) attack is insane
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>>28743077
I run a modest focus sashes set with agility instead of nasty plot and the same attack moves. It tends to do the job for me.
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>>28744733
But can't have both a mega stone and black sludge,anon.
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Junko (Banette) (F) @ Banettite
Ability: Cursed Body
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Shadow Claw
- Cotton Guard
- Pain Split
- Will-O-Wisp

Most people expect the Destiny Bond variant, so this is pretty fun to use.
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>>28744833
are you retarded?
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>>28744819
>focus sashes
Hmm
Why sash instead of orb?
Unless you're trying to set up on something like mega Lucario or Gengar which is stupid, you're probably not getting OHKO'd
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>>28744871
No, but what switches in on the set up likely will and it will 2hko anything. It just enables it, in a 6v6 format, to take out a guaranteed Pokemon. And usually after said wall switches in the sweeps east, especially if hazards are up.
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Raikou @ Damp Rock
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Rash Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunder
- Magnet Rise
- Rain Dance
- Weather Ball
"Oh hey, he just switched in a Raikou! I know, I'll switch to my Hippowdon! Wait, why did it use Rain Dance? WHY DOES IT USE WEATHER BALL?"
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>>28745005
>6v6 format
What about 3vs3? Is the set still viable or is there something better
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Brobat@ Life Orb
Ability: Infiltrator
Modest Nature

Giga Drain
Heat Wave
Air Slash
Nasty Plot
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>>28745123
>calling it Brobat
I love Crobat, but step it up senpai.
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>>28745089
That looks like fun but submind is just too much fun for me when using raikou
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>>28742755
Do Eject Button with Endure and become worse than Stalin
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Chesnaught
Ultra bulky tank.

Adamant, assault vest, 252 EVs in attack and HP, 6 in defense.

Drain punch
Stone edge
Seed bomb
Iron head

I know its not the most practical set, but it comes in handy.
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Depends on the team, but Scarf is usually how I roll.
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>>28745466
Isn't Chomp fast enough on its own without needing scarf?
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>>28747023
Have fun beating all the 110 pokemon, though those should be scarfed as well
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>>28747211
>all the 110 pokemon
Out of all those, how many are viable enough to stand up to Garchomp?
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>>28747023
>>28747326
It sounds like you view Scarf as a sort of "patch" for low speed. While it can be, it's not necessarily the case.

Garchomp's got a really damn nice speed tier, but you can almost always use more speed. Garchomp is actually a well known scarf user, given it's unusual 102 base speed. What's nice is that this allows it to outspeed other Scarf users or +1 speed base 100's (and lower), which is really common. Megazard X, Volcarona, Gyarados, Hydreigon, maybe even an uncommon Kyurem-B set. Just a few examples.

Furthermore, there's also common non-Scarfed pokemon that do reach above Garchomp's speed tier. Keldeo (if Timid), Lati@s, M-Metagross, Raikou, Thunudurs. There's a host of other Pokemon that might not threaten Garchomp directly, bu Garchomp's bulk is still good enough with little investment for a sweeper that it can serve it's purpose.
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>>28742796
>Ice Fang over Stealth Rocks or Icicle Crash
What did he mean by this?
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>>28743306
Regirock @ Assault Vest
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Careful Nature
- Power-Up Punch
- Stone Edge
- Drain Punch
- Earthquake

I guess.
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Lorentz (Magnezone) @ Assault Vest
Analytic
Quiet
248 HP - 16 DEF - 108 SPATK - 136 SPDEF
-Discharge
-Volt Switch
-HP Ice
-Flash Cannon

Always kill, never die
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>>28747832
>Power-Up Punch / Drain Punch on Regirock
Interesting...
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Zangoose @ Toxic Orb
Ability: Toxic Boost
EVs: 252 Attk/Speed
Jolly Nature
-Knock off
-Close Combat
-Facade
-Swords Dance

After one turn almost everything slower than me is as good as dead

feels like the most berserk-like pokemon
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Gogoat @ Assault Vest
Sap Sipper
Brave 186hp / 88atk / 72def /164sp.def

Hidden Power Ice
Horn Leech
Earthquake
Bounce/Rock Slide/Surf

Outdated spread, but can survive a sun-boosted flame thrower from Timid Char Y and OHKO back with Rock Slide.

Mostly an offensive pivot and eventual death fodder, can switch into multiple ice beams and heal a bit back or get lucky para's with bounce.
Gogoat base 97 special attack is underrated, HP Ice hits incoming Gliscor forcing them to Roost and giving me a free switch.

Regenerator Slowbro/Rotom Heat is a good partner, Scald/Wow burns help cushion physical blows for it.

I have a Grass Pelt one that I use in multi/doubles, the def boost and recovery from Grassy Terrain make it bulky as fuck, and hits hard with boosted Horn Leech.
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Sometimes I run Choice Band, or I use Swords Dance. It's hard to choose between Mega and normal because even though Mega form is better, it's nice to be able to use mons that are usually pretty mediocre otherwise.
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Megahorn
Poison Jab
Earthquake
Swords Dance

A lot of people just use it for baton pass, but if there's no Skarmory around, it can clean house pretty easily after one boost. I usually go with Lum Berry so I can set up when something tries to status me
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>>28749212
who is this semen demon
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>Eviolite
>thunderbolt
>ice beam
>toxic
>recover

He's unstoppable
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>Leavanny
>Adamant @life orb
>Chlorophyll
>Swords Dance
>Grass Whistle
>X-scissor
>Leaf blade
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Machamp @ Choice Scarf
No Guard
Jolly
Attack 252/ Sp.Def 8/ Speed 248

Dynamic Punch
Stone Edge
Ice Punch
Poison Jab
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>>28743078
based Wobbuffet up in this bitch.
it fucks up anything in its way..
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Ampharos in SoulSilver

Ability: Static
EVs: don't know right now

>Focus Punch
>Discharge
>Thunder
>Signal Beam

I don't know if I should ditch Thunder and bring back Charge. Thunder misses like a bitch often
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>>28752699
oh and Item: it has that Drain shell thing. I forgot the name. you basically hit your foe and regain HP in a slight way after that.
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>>28752730
Shell Bell m8. That's a wonky set, but seems fun as an in-game mon. Focus Blast > Punch tho, if ye can get it.
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>>28752760
>Focus Blast > Punch tho

true. I haven't got it yet.
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>Gengar
>Focus Sash
>Shadow Ball
>Sludge Bomb
>Giga Drain
>Destiny Bond
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@Leftovers
Pixilate

>Hyper Voice
>Wish
>HP Fire
>Calm Mind
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>>28752933
Do you use it for doubles? If yes then with who? Someone with prankster or shadow tag?
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>tfw your bro only has 1 set and sucks at it
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>>28753058
M-Sable is a lot of fun to use with it, sometimes I'll use M-Gengar
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>>28753111
At least it's not Meganium.
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>>28753058
That's not a Doubles set
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>>28753202
I was thinking about these exact two desu.

>>28753249
I was thinking on Hyper Voice, Wish, Protect and maybe Moon Blast to deal with Wide Guard(or leave that to Trickster Taunt).
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Mega nuker with Earthquake.
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Shuckle
>Chesto Berry
>Sturdy
>Bold Nature
- Power Split
- Stone Edge / Gyro Ball
- Sticky Web / Toxic
- Rest
Wannabe sweepers beware the Fuckle.
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Probopass
Quick Claw
Earth power
Volt switch
Power gem
Taunt

Didn't think he would be that good, but he walls pretty well and murders charizards and talonflames too stupid to switch. Taunt seems to help a lot, probably because it isn't a usual move on a probopass but i don't know, I'm really new to battlespot
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Sheer Force Feraligatr
Life Orb
Dragon Dance
Waterfall
Ice Punch
Earthquake
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>>28755163
He's too slow to effectively use Taunt. Thunder Wave works really well since you can cripple switches. Toxic can work as well. Also Quick Claw is unreliable, you should consider Leftovers or some other defensive support item.
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>>28742755
I've got like, multiple bro-mons but one that has shit on Xerneas's, a Primal Kyogre and some other cancer in the battle spot is my Magnezone.

>Magnet Pull

>Electric Terrain
>Thunder (When my Tentacruel rain dances)
>Flash Cannon
>Psych Up (Stole a Mega Sableye's 4 calm minds and OHKO'd it with thunder)
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