Post a mon Make it OU >All it needs is more bulk >+25

>>28638293
>4x weak to bug
LOOOL IT'S SHIIIT!! XDD

>>28638314
>Garchomp
>4x Weekness to Ice
Haha that's why he's in PU right? XD

>>28638293
give flygon dragon dance and quiver dance

>>28638293
Give it Sucker Punch too while you're at it because for some fucking dumb reason it doesnt have it

>>28638527
With how common U-Turn is a 4x weakness to bug is actually a really big problem.

>>28638631
And a mega.

Slaking
>huge power

>>28638293
All it really needs is more speed. If you're going to give it more bulk, make it special to compliment contrary superpower.

>>28638973
OU not AG anon

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>>28638738
Yeah! Nothing with a bug weakness could ever be good!

>>28639008
It would hardly be AG, though. Even Uber would be pushing it.
Slaking doesn't have a spectacular moveset.

>>28638293
What he needs is actual STAB.
Just give the stupid thing psychoboost.

>>28638973
Slaking
>no ability

>>28639019
>It would hardly be AG

The damn thing would have 320 base attack/150 hp/100 speed. You don't need a varied moveset at that point.

Porygon-Z
>literally +20 in speed

>>28639137
Just pop on a life orb, and spam double edge.

>>28639137
Oh, right, then replace Huge Power with some mundane shit like Pressure. Now it's OU.

>>28639019
He has return. That's all he needs. With huge power he'd have base 320 attack, he has 100 speed and 150/100/65 defenses. That's enough bulk to take anything that could outspeed Slaking @ scarf quite well

>Vivillon's powder is now set up as a stage hazard, though it is only activable once.

Also... I dunno, like +15 in speed.

>>28639185
Still Ubers desu
Defeatist might be balanced on him

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Give it two of the three:
Moon Blast
Hurricane
Thunderbolt

>>28639313
Togekiss is already OU.

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>Solar Beam
>Scald
>+10 Speed
>+20 Sp. Atk

Enjoy your new Uber :^)

Can someone fix Articuno for me? It's my favorite mon, but I realize it can't be salvaged.

>>28639336
Give it better speed

Lock On + Sheer Cold is unbeatable

>>28639352
>Using one-hit ko moves in OU
???

>>28639313
Scald

Shedinja
>make it a Ghost single type
>make Wonder Guard invulnerable to status and weather

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+65 speed
+10 attack
+5 def
+5 special def

>>28639418
Even with that he'd be NU
Give him a great movepool and a good ability as well

>>28639137
>320 base attack
Base stats scale linearly only in the case of no EVs, 0 IVs and a neutral nature.
Because the boost to stats that IVs and EVs give are static (they depend only on level), they have a smaller effect on a pokemon with base 320 Attack than they do on a pokemon with base 160 Attack and Huge Power.

For example, base 320 Attack Slaking would hit 812 Attack with full investment.
Base 160 Attack + Huge Power Slaking would hit 460*2 = 920 Attack. This is the difference between doubling base stats and doubling the real stats, IVs and EVs included.

>>28639448
Serene Grace is a top-tier ability and Dunsparce's movepool is actually really good.
>Flinchax moves
>T-wave
>Flamethower
>Thunderbolt
>Ice Beam
>Earth Quake
>Calm Mind
>Coil
>Glare
>Yawn
>Dragon Tail

Dunsparce needs stats.

>>28639516
Togekiss does paraflinch better though, doesn't it?

>>28639137
A huge power slaking actually has an attack stat equivalent to base 369, give or take a point. Which doesn't make it any less scary.

>>28638293
Malamar would do better with more speed than bulk. U-turn is this thing's bane, and OU is full of u-turners, so if it ever hopes of doing better it would need to set up those contrary superpowers faster.

In top of more speed, I would like it to get psycho boost, and a dark type equivalent.

>>28639148
>Modest PorygonZ running choice specs instead of choice scarf and OHKOing everything with adaptability tri attack or coverage thunderbolt/ice beam
Yes please

>>28639336
Magic Guard
He was already a pretty decent wall in gen 3 but then rocks happened.

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>retconned to bug/ground
>gets mega horn
>-15 spa and put it into hp
>gets taunt

You know how a strong offensive bug type and capable suicide lead. It would fire off strong mold breaker EQs or set up stealth rock and taunt past magic bounce users.

>>28639530

Coil and glare are pretty neat.

>>28639530
Dunsparce can use Rock Slide for doubles

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T A I L G L O W

and better stats

>>28639015
are you seriously comparing Malamar with Hoopa-U? That has over 150 in both offense

>>28638973
just give vital spirit and slaking is ou

>>28639015
>comparing Hoopa-U with the Malamar for the sake of your argument

>>28639015
Noooo, don't tell me a mythical pokemon with a 680 stat total is useable
and it still gets fucked in the ass by uturn or pretty much any physical attack with its garbage defense and speed

>>28639040
Klutz

>>28639313
hurricane and moonblast will be overkill with serene grace.

>>28639321
BL

>>28639325
some priority special move would be nice too, to """"""""""""counter"""""""""""""" those mach punches (well actually all those physical priorities except aqua jet when it's dry skin)

>>28639336
magic guard
swap def for spe, sdef for stak and give snow warnig or a buffed keen eye to swift like accuracy

>>28639820
which means it's banned from UU

>>28639901
yes but not used enough to be OU

>>28639934
but it's only playable in OU

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>>28639616
Lanturn would be good with reliable recovery + Calm Mind. It doesn't need better stats.

>>28638293
All three members of the Regi trio would be OU if they got Recover.

>>28640067
registell sure. regirock maybe. regice doubtful.

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Flash Fire
Flare Blitz/Fire Fang
+10 HP

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Quiver Dance and a new design.

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>>28639019
>Learns Earthquake, Fire Punch, Ice Punch, Hammer Arm, Gunk Shot, Play Rough, Sucker Punch, Pursuit, Slack Off, Bulk Up, Taunt, Encore, on top of STAB Return and Double-Edge.
>doesn't have a spectacular moveset

To make it ou it literally just needs more than +1 bp speed so it isn't outsped by all the 110 bp pokemon. It's already pretty viable in OU because of it's ability to switch into scald spam and especially into manaphy

>>28640123
>regirock maybe. regice doubtful.
Why would Registeel be OU but not the two others

>>28640123
If only hail boosted ice types' Def by 50% and regice had an ability that doubled its speed in hail....

But the other 2 are pretty well with recover. Filter and solid rock as abilities could also improve them.

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Give it Recover.

>>28639325
Give it Weather Ball as well, fucker can make use of 5 out of the 7 weather conditions and yet for whatever the fuck reason doesn't get it

>>28640328
steel is the best defensive type rock has sand sdef boost ice resit itself

>>28640411
>5 out of 7

>>28640375
Pain Split is great though

>>28639570
hes already all over OU

>>28640345
hail has to boost both defense to ice has a chance as a defensive mon ice body is a good ability to a defensive mon.

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>>28638293
+10/10/10 bulk and it now learns Bullet Punch and Shadow Sneak

>>28640444
Pretty sure he was talking about non-mega only

>>28640424
>Sun
>Rain
>Sandstorm
>Hail
>Harsh Sunlight
>Heavy Rain
>Misteryous Aircurrent
Kill yourself, whether you want to argue if the Primal abilities are the same as regular Sun and Rain that's another thing

>>28640438
>great
that's not how you spell 'situational'

>>28640279
It's gonna be OP as fuck because GF wants a grass starter to go along with charizard and greninja

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>Extreme speed

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>>28638293

Let it learn Sucker Punch and Psycho Boost.

>>28639570
For the seven hundredth time, those are jaws not horns.

>>28640549
about god damn time. grass has been getting shafted for generations.

>>28640630
And your point is?

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Make it Poison/Steel.

+20 to HP.

>>28639570
>let it have haracross' signature move.
>which is another powerful bug
step off my nigga haracross' turf you pinsar fag

>>28640653
>no horns -> no megahorn

>>28640672

>Heracross' signature move

That is known by 12 other Pokemon, including Scolipede.

>>28640484
the primal ones are not that different, to me, from the normal ones
you just add the no fire/no water rule but that's almost something with the normal ones
so yeah, i'm still thinking there are only 5 climates

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REMOVE DARK/GHOST WEAKNESS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>tfw still UU at best

>>28640646
Eh, not really. Venusaur is the best out of the original 3. Sceptile-mega is good and venusaur mega are good. Serperior is OU. Grass doesn't have an uber starter but it's probably better than water all around.

>>28640676
those are mandibles anon, its jaws are clearly below its eyes

and didnt we see Vikavolt use Megahorn?

>>28638293
How do you make eelektross OU?

>>28640676
>Absol got no horns
>can get Megahorn
>Gorebyss and Huntail doesn't have a shell
>Can learn shell smash
>Half the pokemon that learn peck got no beak
>Dodrio got a bunch of wing related moves but no wings
Stop being autistic and sperging out about pokemon using things they don't have the exact thing the move refers to.

>>28640703
Just because it can be learned by other pokemon doesn't mean it can't be a signature.

>>28640759
either balk or sped

>>28640759
more Defense and Speed, but idk if anything small can save it because power > versatility

>>28640759
faster or bulkier? both? it already has a really nice movepool but the no weakness meme was balanced by those stats

>>28640764
what do you think that huge thing sticking out of Absol's head is?
a horn shaped like a blade.

>>28640793
the no weaknesses meme was balanced by an almost complete lack of resistances

>>28640764
>Gorebyss and Huntail doesn't have a shell
>Can learn shell smash
They can use Shell Smash but they can't learn Shell Smash.

>>28640794
A stupid thing that could be used just like pinsirs jaws. Do you bitch about Scizor having bullet punch even though he can't punch because he got claws instead of fists too?

How do you make Volcarona OU?
What about Porygon2?

>>28640837
By removing stealth rock from the game

>>28640810
so, stats

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>>28640764
Checkmate anon

Also I think you're projecting.

>>28640834
Its not hard to punch something when you have claws that big that can close and are covered in steal. bad example pick again.

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>>28638293
>Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Focus Blast and Energy Ball
>Magic Guard as HA

>>28640860
>uses shell smash
>everyone can see itsfish titties
lewd

>>28640837
I use Volcarona in OU on my mono bug team. Its had some pretty good success

>>28640860
>exposes itself to opponent
>raises Attack and Special Attack
what did they mean by this

>>28640837
Volcarona is currently ou and porygon2 just needs recovery

>>28640871
Why can't it learn any other kind of punch then?

>>28640889
Volcarona isn't in OU it's in BL2, and Porygon2 has Recover, I don't know what you're talking about

>>28640871
And it's not hard to use jaws on top of your head like horns which are spikey things on top of your head. Thats the fucking point.

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>>28640902
Volcarona is in BL regular actually

>>28640878
>first mage pokemon
>can't learn any standard magic attacks

>>28640902
volcarona is in bl. meaning it's ou, for all practical purposes.

you're right about porygon though. it'll never be ou then unless you raise it's stats, which you can't really do since it's not fully evolved

>>28640926
>it'll never be ou then unless you raise it's stats
Hmm, what about Z then?

>>28640949
more speed

>>28640909
Why don't you slam into something with your teeth and tell us how much damage you would do.

>>28640958
Yeah I thought so
>Porygon3 never

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+54 Special Defense

Ability: Absolute Zero
Grants immunity to Water, and raises either Defense or Special Defense by one stage when hit by a Water-type attack, depending on whether it was a Physical or Special move.

Let it learn Ice Shard and/or Icicle Crash.

>>28638293
>4x weakness to bug/uturn
>Still Slow as fuck
>Doesn't get stab on Super Power which it needs to benefit from contrary

It feels like a worse version of serperior. I would rather use diggersby than malamar any day

>>28640967
Because i don't have have huge teeth on top of my head or even narwal teeth either for that matter. If you think humans look anything like pinsir you might need to go and see a doctor.

>>28640987
They really dropped the ball on Avalugg. Doesn't even learn Heavy Slam and they gave it stupid generic abilities like Own Tempo and Ice Body.

>>28640987
It just needs a different typing. Ice just fucks it up so bad. They were so close too considering it actually has reliable recovery and cool moves like Rapid Spin.

>>28640987
It's easier to buff Ice Type and Hail than to buff Avalugg, he is fine as is, ice is just a shit defensive type.

>>28641031
exactly teeth not horn. you don't use your teeth to stab something they are made to grip and tear and crush.

>>28640987
Hell I'd use it with just Icicle Crash. Avalanche is such a shit option since it doesn't double for switching and it makes contact for some reason.

>>28638293
>zubat use leech life.

>>28638293
Swagger + Foul Play/Topsy Turvy is a neat idea but it's super risky because it doesn't have the bulk to accommodate confusion not working

>>28641274
also needs Shadow Tag

>>28640878
And make its typing Fire/Fairy

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>>28640764
>>Absol got no horns

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>>28641057

Probably, but I figured this wasn't the thread for that.

>>28641055
>>28641045
>>28641084

It really is a shame, Avalugg has a really nice design. If Ice had any worth as a defensive type it would surely be considered top tier.

>>28640977
Technically porygon Z is a bug, so he could have an alternate evo.
Maybe

>>28641325
>GF makes fairy for magical assholes
>Still gives psychic type to magical pokemon
>Forgets to change all magical assholes into fairies
These fucking faggots, I swear.

>>28641325
Fuck off, not everything needs to be that shit excuse for a typing,

>>28641444
gamefreak has vapor for brains

>smogonfag posting in /vp/

>>28641494
it a magician fairy type fits delphox

>>28641562
>Diaper posting on 4chan

>>28641576
And since when is fairy type related to magic? Psychic is a much better fit.

>>28641654
>And since when is fairy type related to magic
It's literally the magical creature type, you bidoof.

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>+40 something speed
>+20 something speed
>Weak armour
> technician :^)

>>28639771
This. Klutz would keep it from being broken although still too good

>>28641669
Magic Bounce, Magic Guard, Magic Room, Magic Coat and the Abra line, would beg to differ. Psychic has always been associated with magic tricks and magicians not fairy type.

>>28641654
fairy are are magical beings.

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>Bug/fairy
>Simple

>>28639986
That doesn't matter because that's not how OU works.

>>28641756
Psychic is more like Illusionism Magic
Fairy is Raw Magic, from Nature etc

Or something like Wizard vs Sorcerer

>>28643669
No
Psychics are espers
Fairies are magicians

>>28643669
psychic vs fairy would be more like jedi vs wizard

>>28638293
Learn Overheat.
Learn the Psychic Equivalent of Overheat.

>>28638744
Quiver Dance is more than enough.

>>28639212
Return and Punishment, it can't kill steel and ghost types otherwise.

>>28639663
uber*

>>28640246
Flash fire and extra HP are useful, fire moves are completely useless on it because people only use it to set up trick room and support.

>>28640745
Bronzong is very common in VGC tournaments though, it might not be OU but it's perfect against uber legendaries.

>>28640630

They are horns actually. Not sure about the main games but pokemon ranger makes it super clear

>>28644326
List of Fairy types that are magicians but not also Psychic types

>

>>28639015
Hoopa-U is garbage though

>>28638973
Been thinking about how to get around his trash fucking ability and make him a god. Friend and I thought about slapping him with the coffin Pokemon in a double battle (can't spell his name) so that he contracts Mummy and ability is cancelled out. I have no idea how that works because I've never used that mon but he said it could work might try it soon

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+48 speed

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Loses Sludge Bomb

>>28648773
https://youtube.com/watch?v=iCov5hQ4BW4

For you

>>28648858
Doesn't Mummy not give the stats back to Regigigas, or is there something I'm missig here?

>>28648858
Does this still give regi his stats?

>>28643532
No, but accomplish OP points. It's good enought to be OU material

>>28648937
Yes, slow start is what hinders it's stats

Like defeatist

>>28638314
In all honesty anon, being that much of a U-turn bait really hinders this guy.

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>>28640672

>>28639803
Hurricane's still garbo accuracy though

But Rain Dance, Hurricane, Thunder parafusion would be evil

>>28649116
>Takes advantage of Pinsir's inability to learn things that are not Normal-type moves
Poetry

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Give it Mummy, something that doesn't make it overwhelmingly broken.
You could also give it something like iron fist, which corresponds with the variety of punching moves he can learn.

>>28640837
>Porygon2
Give it Sticky Hold.
Fuck you Knock Off.

>>28640549
>Grass/Flying type
>OP
fucking how
>>28640658
would be cool, but it still doesn't do much
>>28641388
Porygon3 with massive bulk and Regenerator would fit pretty nicely
>>28641859
banned

>>28649191
Give it Pursuit.

Turn X: Switch into Cofagigrus holding Eject Button on a physical Mon
Turn X+1: Pursuit so they can't escape your Mummy
Turn X+2: ???
Win

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>>28649191
Or for a simpler solution:
Slow Start now retains its turn counter when its user is switched off, and increases Reggie's attacks/speed by 10% every turn (so it would still go back to 100% after 5 turns).
It also continues increasing Reggie's stats afterwards.

Hydreigon
>Give it nasty plot, Ice beam, aura sphere, thunderbolt
>100+ base speed

>>28649360
>>28649377

I like these ideas.

>>28640837
>How do you make Volcarona OU?
Remove Heatran, Azumarill and Smogonbird.

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>>28649116
>no flying moves
>heracross uses stone egde

>>28649531
>Aerialate
Pinsir takes 5 gens of being a shitmon and GIT GUD

>>28649562
i have made a miscalculation

>>28649562
Even though I hate megas, I have to admit that Pinsir was one of the few guys who really deserved his one. All that desire to kill that had built up for so long.

>>28649191
I'll never get over how stupid it is to me that they made Regigigas the worst legendary thanks to its ability. What's the fucking point of nerfing a legendary pokemon? Beyond that, why nerf the one pokemon that takes the most effort to obtain, sans event-exclusive mons?

For that matter, why is it so fucking small? It's only 12 feet tall, despite being "The Colossal pokemon" and all. Motherfucker should be as big as a mountain. At least then, Heavy Slam would carry it a bit.

>>28649840
I didn't like him as much as I would have wanted to because of all the effort you have to go through in order to obtain one. It isn't worth it, he doesn't even have a hidden ability.

>>28649912
Then look at the shit you have to do in ORAS to get it, it's fucking absurd. The LEAST they could've done was given that Regigigas a hidden ability, since A. it's where the Regis originated and B. It's WAY harder to get it in ORAS than it's ever been. Not to mention this is the same game where you get a mega legendary before you're half-way through, countless other legendaries (that you get infinite re-dos for if you can't catch them), Primal Groudon/Kyogre, and Mega Fug, the single-strongest pokemon ever. As long as they're giving away so much super-powerful shit, why not throw ol' Regigigas a bone?

>>28649840
They really went all out to make sure it was hard to take Slow Start off without all sorts of gimmicks. They didn't give it any sort of recovery until Drain Punch. Shit, they didn't even give it Protect. Or a good boosting move.

>>28649995
They literally went out of their way to prevent it from learning Protect, a move that EVERY pokemon that isn't forbidden from using TMs can learn. Why did they even make Regigigas if they hate it so much? Out of all the legendaries that got megas, Regigigas is the only one that truly needed it.

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>>28640913
He is great in battle spot singles at least, assuming you're not packing fire pokemon. With no sleep clause hypnosis/perish song/hydro pump can be great support, and he shuts down megazardy, ttar and hippo with his rain.

>>28639244

Deatist would be balanced on him as it has enough bulk and raw stats for it to not be a complete detriment, unlike Archeops.

>>28650254
switch it's attack and specia attack

>>28650254
Noble roar isn't just a status move, but has 60-75 base power.

>>28650254
I can try

>Give it a richer movepool that Normal types commonly have (Thunderbolt, energy ball, etc)
>Intimidate
>10 Speed and Defense
There, maybe not OU, but definitely not shit like before

>>28650389
You just turned it into a discount Arcanine

>>28649995

>LITERALLY deplicted in it's lore that it SLEEPS for a long time
>can't learn Rest

Not even Ledian has had a harder life than Regigigas.

Give Mega Gallade Moxie and Mach Punch

>>28650448
I'd have given it +10 Speed and Special Attack. You're right about it's movepool too, there's no reason why it's Fire typing should hinder it more than help.

Give Regigigas Klutz. Now it's usable and gf is happy because it still has a shit ability

>>28640468

Shadow punch needs a buth in power . problem is the lack of power on its ghost stab

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A not-shit ability, and either +20 HP or Pain Split.

For the ability, something like Harvest would be both flavorful and competitive, letting it carve out a niche as a reliable berry reuser. Simple would also be a better HA than Contrary, and would turn it into an absolute monster with Acupressure.

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I'm not good at this stuff, what the fuck could be done to fix my boi Jumpluff