ITT: Crazy shit we will get from Gen1 > Sun Moon
> Selfdestruct Steelix, Snorlax or Exeggutor
> SKyattack: Mew, Fearow
> Skull Bash Kanghaskan
>Fissure Machamp
>Seismic Toss Hypno
>Reflect Snorlax
>Double Edge Tauros, Persian, Raticate
>Counter Chansey, Snorlax, Mewtwo
METRONOME EVERYTHING
>>28630505
Skull bash Flareon and Payday Pikachu.
Just like in my first run ever, when I was a wee lad.
Nostalgic as fuck.
>>28630505
>STILL noCrabhammerMew
By abusing glitches, you can get any gen 1 move on any Pokemon.
I have a Sing Pidgeot ready to go in SM.
>>28630505
>MFW Fissure Machamp
>>28630505
Dig Alakazam
Payday Mewtwo
>>28630505
>fissure machamp
SCARED
>>28630505
>>28630659
Couldn't you do that in the gamecube games?
>>28630505
WATER
GUN
MEWTWO
>>28630505
>InB4 it doesn't matter because IVs and Natures will be randomized as you get Gen 1 Pokés into the bank, making it impossible to get what you want.
Also, they won't have the pentagon or the little plus, so you won't be able to use those Pokémon on official tournaments
>>28630920
I would also think that they wouldn't allow pokemon with weird movesets
>>28630670
Mons with glitched movesets almost certainly won't be able to be uploaded to pokemon bank
>Tri Attack Alakazam
>Tri Attack Mewtwo
>>28630945
Agree. I highly doubt they will allow no guard fissure Machamp.
Either that or no guard wont have any effect on OHKO moves
>>28630505
>Metronome Mega Gengar
>Teleport Mewtwo
>Dragon Rage Lapras
>Mega Punch Chansey
>Reflect EVERYTHING
>>28630945
>>28631392
I've heard some anons on here claim that any Pokemon received from RBY will have their HAs as bonuses, but I haven't seen any proof of that posted.
>>28631475
Because it's ass pull speculation and nothing more.
>>28630659
Of course Mew can Crabhammer, justuse Metronome
>>28631475
I've speculated that might be the case, but I certainly haven't claimed it will.
>>28630505
>>Fissure Machamp
>Transfer all your gen wuns into SM
>All moves kept
>but they all get hidden abilities/different alolan form abilities
>>28630920
>catch a shit ton of machop
>missingno clone tm27
>teach them all fissure
>transfer to sun/moon
>find a good nature one
>hyper train
>done
>>28630787
It's an old meme but it's not true
What's so good about Fissure? I don't think I've ever even seen anyone use it.
>>28630505
>> Selfdestruct Snorlax
But snorlax can already get explosion
>>28631655
Fissure OHKO the enemy, but has really bad accuracy so nobody use it.
With No Guard ability however, the move cannot miss.
>>28631692
Oh... OH.
This will probably get banned on every single competitive thing though.
They probably won't let any of these cool combos through to new games.
>>28630505
>Mega Kick Pinsir and Machamp
>Tri Attack Wigglytuff, Blissey, Alakazam
>Whirlwind on the legendary birds
>Self Destruct Snorlax and Mewtwo
>Seismic Toss, Double Edge and Reflect on almost every mon
>Submission Hitmonlee (Reckless boost)
>Counter Clefable, Blissey, Rhydon, Blastoise
>Everything above plus Softboiled on Mew
>>28630688
Gen1 Machamp will NEVER EVER get No Guard and the move won't be able to be passed down.
>>28631660
It can't get Explosion, but it can learn Self-Destruct if you breed a Munchlax from a Snorlax that already knows the move from the Pokewalker or XD.
>>28631716
OHKO moves are already banned wholesale, so it's mainly just a meme.
>>28631756
Wait can I get a self destruct snorlax through my pokewalker?
>>28631756
>XD
kys
>>28631823
You could have, but only through a special event only Pokewalker course. You'd have had the ability to get a Munchlax's with the move who could pass it onto their offspring if bred while one is holding a Full Incense.
http://www.serebii.net/heartgoldsoulsilver/pokewalker-area.shtml
>>28631475
It'll probably be randomized but hey, Ability Capsules exist.
>>28631749
you do realize that since No Guard is not an HA, the ability capsule can be used, right?
>Bubble Beam Nidoking
>Pay Day, Water Gun, and Skull Bash handed out like candy
Feels good, my man.
>>28631870
I'm only just now remembering the yellow forest. If I had of got that fucking event I could have a flying and surfing pikachu on xy/oras
>>28631911
Can the Ability Capsule be used to change from a HA to a normal ability?
>>28631953
Pokémon with HMs can't be transferred to Gen 5. Your Pikachu would be stuck in Gen 4 forever.
>>28631985
It can't IIRC
>>28631953
It doesn't look like it, actually. The way breeding works for a lot of Pokemon doesn't always work the same for others. Maybe it has something to do with the Incense, but you can't pass down Surf or other event only moves down.
If you could, Soft-Boiled Clefable and stuff like Wish Hypno would be more common outside of simulators.
>>28631985
They cannot, sadly.
>>28631989
I didn't know actually, though it makes sense.
>>28631935
>Bubble Beam Nidoking
He already learns Water Pulse and Surf for special Water attacks.
Sheer Force Bubble Beam still isn't as strong as Surf, that's not something to really look forward to.
Wont the shit ivs and nature make it not worth it though?
>>28630759
I dont understand.
>>28632354
I think a big part of the draw is that a lot of these might be potential egg moves.
>>28632363
Body Slam, to run off that 5 base attack.
>>28632363
It's either referring to Seismic Toss or Counter, both of which are TMs in Gen 1.
>>28632387
That could be possible as well.
>>28632387
I was gonna say im pretty sure i have a siesmic toss chancey in the bank.
>Submission Mewtwo
Haha, time for memes.
>>28632391
>>28632394
Seismic Toss is an Egg Move for Chancey.
>>28632401
I know, but I couldn't think of another move besides Counter that could really involve suplexing, besides Body Slam as previously mentioned.
Reflect Blissey. In gen 1 chansey was compatible with the TM.
a raticate with water gun
>Reflect Snorlax
>Reflect Blissey
>Tri Attack Alakazam
>Tri Attack Mewtwo
>Submission Mega Mewtwo X
All the rest are memes and won't be helpful, even outside of competitive.
>>28632543
I suppose Blissey might get some use as a screen setter, but Snorlax would probably prefer Curse for defensive boosts.
TA seems like an option on Alakazam too, but even if it can get it while also having Magic Guard, I feel it would have more preferable options instead.
>>28630920
Nah I doubt it'll be that simple. See pic related for my thoughts on the matter since the 4chan spam filter is being a nig
>No mind reader/ fissue poliwrath
How new are you nerds
>>28631989
what? since when? isn't gen 4->5 the only reason defog zapdos exists?
>ditto without transform
>>28634624
Defog isn't an HM in HGSS so it can be transferred from there, but Whirlpool can't unless you transfer from DPPt.
>>28631434
>Counter EVERYTHING
>MetronomeEVERYTHING
>>28631434
>>Teleport Mewtwo
>Teleport and not Pay Day