>Dragon resists Electric >Electric isn't super-effective

>>28621889
kek

>>28621889
Ye olde dragons are supposed to be flying around up in the clouds and shit so it makes sense they would resist lightning. Dragons being weak to lightning is a souls thing.

I'l give you the other points though.

>>28621889
Water does NOT conduct electricity fagget

>>28622229
this. rain dance teams would get more viable electric options than just Thunder and Steel Type would be a bit more balanced.

Electric moves don't miss in the rain

>>28622282
>Zap cannon
>Bolt Strike
Literally the only acc. buff applied is to Thunder

>>28622229
>supposed to be flying around up in the clouds and shit so it makes sense they would resist lightning
How does it though? Even if that's the case, wouldn't it then make more sense for Flying to resist lightning?

Shit. You guys ever heard of the Faraday effect?

Electricity doesn't travel through the metal, it travels across the surface of the metal. Its why large planes and shit are hit by lightning and come out unscathed.

Now, if you're a big metal ant the electricity will travel around your metal body and your vulnerable, squishy insides are safe and sound

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Fuck that

>tfw your a Physical Electric type

>>28622566
Most birds are nowhere near that high up.

>>28622694
I did not know that's how it worked. Makes sense then.

>>28622694
But that's wrong. Planes are usually coated in a thin layer of aluminum, which is the path of lowest resistance. That's where the electricity travels, not "across the surface".

>>28621889
I thought Dragon resisted electric because it was supposed to resist the "starter elements": water, fire, grass and elec, representing the 4 main pokemon of gen 1

>>28623108
The point still stands. At most frequencies the path of least resistance is across the surface of the metal, not through the bulk of the interior.

You're right that planes are coated in aluminum so that the lightning travels across the surface of the plane.

>>28622952
https://youtu.be/Zi4kXgDBFhw

Check it

>>28622952
>Most birds are nowhere near that high up
Stop trying to using retarded logic to defend retarded logic

>>28623141
That's what I figured too, but beyond that it doesn't make any sense from a practical standpoint.

>>28622835
>tfw you're pic related

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>>28624119
fuck, forgot pic

>>28623342
Yes, your point is right but your reasoning is wrong. It goes through the outer metal because that's the path with the least resistance, it doesn't go on top of it. Saying it goes on the surface is wrong. The electron stream very much happens within the aluminium painting. The reason it doesn't go through the middle is because there is a bunch of shit there with higher conductivity.

It's like saying that something traveling through(not on) your skin is traveling on your surface.

>>28621889
We need to take a page from Dragon's Dogma and introduce a Drenched status that makes Electric attacks Super Effective regardless of your type unless you already resist or are immune to Electric.

Have it last a set amount of turns be like confusion, as in not a TRUE status effect. Maybe four turns? Two in harsh sunlight, six in rain?

If you wanna get even more complicated maybe you could have Fire types be immune to it since they're so hot, and Water types as well since they're always wet. Maybe in Hail there's a chance a Drenched Pokemon will become Frozen?

>>28621889
>Memesouls

>>28624803
Can't you just use Soak instead?

>>28624803
>>28624842
Both of these. Soak should become a status, although it buff an already obnoxious type if it becomes a secondary effect to Water attacks

>Dragons resist all 3 starter types and Electric
Huh. I could've sworn their resistances were more confusing, but they're not.

>>28624803
>Fire gets a 'Tarred' equivalent that increases burn chance from fire attacks and lowers speed by 1 stage
>is washed off by water attacks
Might be cool.

>>28624971
Or an oil effect that buffs fire damage. Sadly these status effects are probably a bit *too* JRPG to ever be in pokemon

>>28621889
>Dragon resists Electric

Because not every game is Dark Souls.

>Electric isn't super-effective against Steel

Why should it be?

>Electric attacks aren't buffed in rain

Thunder becomes a guaranteed hit.

>>28625773
>Because not every game is Dark Souls.
There is no reason for Dragon to resist it other than for being the mary sue type that resists the stater elements
>Why should it be?
Because metals offer little resistance to the flow of electrical current
>Thunder becomes a guaranteed hit.
That's not what I meant and you damn well know it. Water conducts electricity, you dolt. If there's any type that should do more damage in rain, its Electric.

>>28625969
>There is no reason for Dragon to resist it other than for being the mary sue type that resists the stater elements

There is no electric starter other than pikachu and IIRC yellow didn't come out until like 2 years after RG/RB.

>metals offer little resistance to the flow of electrical current

So?

>Water conducts electricity

Again, so?

If a pokemon's throwing lightning somewhere then all that water would do, if anything, is get it there faster. Depending on distance you might even see a decrease in precision and power as the electricity goes through the water. At that, an electric pokemon in a storm would pretty much turn itself into a lightning rod, you're lucky you got the thunder buff at all.

>>28626454
>There is no electric starter other than pikachu and IIRC yellow didn't come out until like 2 years after RG/RB.
Okay then, so there's no reason at all for it to resist.

>So?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? Metals allow electricity to freely flow through them in the same manner as water, which is the exact reason water is weak to it.

>If a pokemon's throwing lightning somewhere then all that water would do, if anything, is get it there faster. Depending on distance you might even see a decrease in precision and power as the electricity goes through the water. At that, an electric pokemon in a storm would pretty much turn itself into a lightning rod, you're lucky you got the thunder buff at all.
See what happens when you come in contact with an electrical current while you're soaked, which by the way, rain will do to you. Why do you think we put wet sponges on peoples heads before we fry them in the chair? Or why we fucking die when we submerge a toaster in the bathtub?

>>28628006
>so there's no reason at all for it to resist.

By what logic? While we're on it, why'd you mention that bit about the starters earlier? Did you just pull it out of your ass because it sounded good?

It's not even like dragon is the most OP type, it's only super effective against itself and it eats shit to ice (which pretty much every water pokemon has in some form) and before the fairy type came along the dark/ghost pokemon had no weaknesses. Now that fairies exist dragons have one more weakness.

>Are you being deliberately obtuse?

Are you? You're on a computer right now and that computer runs on electricity and that electricity is being brought to your house by wires that are ostensibly weaker and more conductive than just about any steel monster, is electricity super effective at destroying those wires?

Conducting electricity will not necessarily kill something, even if that something is flesh and blood. If you're going to make a case for electric attacks being super effective against steel then you're going to need to expound on why you think that should be.

>Why do you think we put wet sponges on peoples heads before we fry them in the chair?

To direct the electricity, otherwise the body does a pretty good job of absorbing it and the person being executed ends up cooking a la Green Mile.

>why we fucking die when we submerge a toaster in the bathtub?

Are you under the impression that water is some kind of amplifier or something?

TL;DR that just makes you part of a circuit and people only die from that because our hearts suck. This isn't applicable to creatures that can take direct blasts of DC electricity.

>>28628730
>By what logic? While we're on it, why'd you mention that bit about the starters earlier? Did you just pull it out of your ass because it sounded good?
Pokemon Yellow, Pikachu is mascot, therefore better make the super stronk type resist it for difficulty. Beyond that, the reasoning for the resistance is non existent. It's just a type matchup they pulled out of their ass.

>you're going to need to expound on why you think that should be.
Again, by the standard that water is weak to electric, so should steel be. Are you going to argue against water as a type being weak to electric because electricity doesn't "destroy" water? I don't even know where you got that idea from. I never said anything of the sort, that was an asspull on your part.

>Are you under the impression that water is some kind of amplifier or something?
No, I'm saying that water conducts electricity > electricity flows easier through wet thing > things made wet by rain take more damage. Fuck while I'm at it, grass ought to do more damage in both sun and rain. Maybe it would suck less offensively.

>>28629285
>Pokemon Yellow, Pikachu is mascot, therefore better make the super stronk type resist it for difficulty.

Which gets us right back to the type being resistant to electricity before pikachu was a starter.

>Are you going to argue against water as a type being weak to electric because electricity doesn't "destroy" water?

No, because electricity can in fact destroy water by breaking chemical bonds. Additionally, water monsters tend to be flesh and steel monsters tend not to be flesh. Water being weak to electricity doesn't mean shit as far as steel types are concerned.

>water conducts electricity > electricity flows easier through wet thing > things made wet by rain take more damage

Flesh is generally not going to conduct electricity as well as water even when wet. If the target and the entire area is wet then all that's been accomplished is that there are more places for the electricity to go that are not the target.