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>hidden ability: truant Why? Is there any advantage to this?

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>hidden ability: truant
Why? Is there any advantage to this? Is there a pokemon who has been more fucked over with their HA than Durant?
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>>28607093
There is no upside. They just chose it because Truant contains the word "ant" in it. It's actually quite disheartening. Durant deserves better.
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>>28607093
Entrainment you inbred downie niigger
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>>28607286
Is this bait?
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>>28607093
>Hidden Abilities originally came from the dream world
>Hard working ant dreams about being a lazy shit
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we're in a troll thread, ladies and gentleman
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>>28607286
Much like charizard is not a dragon, but a dragon palm tree is a dragon, despite the mythos behind it having nothing to do with dragons.
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>>28607307
Is THIS bait?
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>>28607313
Dragon snails get to be a dragon, too!
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>>28607286
It's a fact that a significant portion of ant colonies' populations do nothing but hang out and eat.

If anything, truant ought to be one of durant's normally occuring abilities.

http://www.calacademy.org/explore-science/lazy-ants
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>>28607318
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>>28607334
And jigglypuff gets to be a fairy because it's pink, but roselia, a literal sprite, doesn't.
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>>28607318
Snails are the quintessential European dragon.
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>>28607302
kek

>>28607093
useful entrainment gimmick in the maison because the AI hardly ever switches
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>>28607349
That's because you can't take away Roselia's Poison typing, it's a poisonous rose.
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>>28607350
Oh, I remember that
>mfw learning there are a bunch of actual medieval tapestries featuring knights fighting snails, and apparently nobody knows why
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>>28607374
>and apparently nobody knows why
There are French myths involving beasts that are serpent/mollusk hybrids.

Mollusks have been a big part of French life for a long time. It's not surprising to see them depicted in many aspects of French culture.
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>>28607093
>Truant with entrainment is bad
At least Durant didn't get damp in the gen explosion got fucking nerfed....
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>>28607361
Sire, right. It's why it learns so many poison attacks. It wouldn't lose anything from losing poison, it can still keep it's toxic or poison powder or whatever.

Golduck and psyduck are not psychic despite having all this lore about psychic powers. They just get access to some psychic moves.
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>>28607391
Don't you mean escargot?
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>>28607391
You literally just made that up. People don't actually know why it is, but they have ideas, including satirical stand-ins for groups of people or possibly even just humour.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/why-were-medieval-knights-always-fighting-snails-1728888/
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>>28607391
Which is funny because I'm French, and trust me, this is still obscure as fuck trivia, even here.

>>28607416
I also remember this thread. Laughs were had.
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>>28607416
>implying snails from french are escargos
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>>28607374
>tfw I had a vivid dream when I was a kid where the devil or something evil sent a bunch of shit after me
>Most of them were snails

I blame the over all theme of the dream on playing Ghosts n' Goblins too much but I still don't know why I was fighting giant snails
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>>28607426
Nah, don't think he made it up, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_Carcolh
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>>28607426
>You literally just made that up
What did I make up, exactly?

>People don't actually know why it is, but they have ideas
Welcome to the entirety of history.
>including satirical stand-ins for groups of people or possibly even just humour
Where did I say that this couldn't be the case? Is satire and humour suddenly not a part of a society's culture?
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>>28607457
But many of these snails aren't even giant.

I like the idea one person had in the comments that these were drawn by monks who were super pissed off at snails fucking up their gardens.
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>>28607374
>mfw we were this close of getting an actuall badass dragon Pseudo (Hydreigon is adorable)
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>>28607451
For a child, slimy creatures are icky and left an impression in your head, probably.

If we're talking childhood nightmares, I had one where I was chased by a Kabuterimon.
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>>28607349
Mr. Mime is somehow a fairy but Blissey/Chansey aren't; what gives?
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>Rabbits get Huge Power because of some Japanese pun
Japs must think they're real fucking funny balancing their game around this shit.
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>>28607482
Because Fairy Blissey/Chansey would be obnoxiously broken
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>>28607482
Probably to differentiate the Clefairy, Jigglypuff and Chansey lines
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>>28607485
>balancing

GameFreak literally just throws shit at the wall and the autistic manchildren in this community scramble to create tiers and banlists and mold themselves something resembling a metagame that they argue about endlessly.
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>>28607498
That's a problem with the fairy type, not with the lore and that has never stopped GF.

Look at mega mawhile or klefki.
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>>28607482
Blissey/Chansey are normal egg laying Pokemon nurses.
There's nothing about them that makes them a fairy.
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>>28607509
Found the VGCfag
Kill yourself Nintendo shill
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>>28607509
I'm pretty sure the autistic manchildren base their tiers off of how many people use them. That's just popularity rankings.
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>>28607515
>Look at mega mawhile or klefki.
What about them?
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>>28607507
they're completely different Pokemon who do completely different things

but the clefairy line has a massive move pool and can do multiple jobs, one of which can be identical to Blissey's
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>>28607516
And jigglypuff is a balloon, there's nothing that makes it a fairy. Or Azumarill for that matter. Or fucking snubbul.
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>>28607531
Tiers are ways to create self-contained metas. You're not meant use OU pokemon against a team of UU or lower pokemon, for example.
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>>28607546
>And jigglypuff is a balloon, there's nothing that makes it a fairy.
Wigglytuff has a rabbit-like appearance. There's some Japanese legend that deals with shadows on the Moon looking like rabbits and those rabbits pound craters into the moon.
The Jigglypuff line isn't even pure Fairy type.

>Or Azumarill for that matter.
Same as above.

>Or fucking snubbul.
>literally the Fairy Pokemon

Keep trying.
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>>28607515
>mawhile

Rubyfag pls go
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>>28607593
Playing devil's advocate here, but I think the problem with Snubbul is why the fuck is it classified as the Fairy Pokémon in the first place ?
It's a pink bulldog. Is this one of those myths from Great Britain or something ?
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>>28607593
>Dogs are fairies
>Rabbits are fairies
>Pixies aren't fairies
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>>28607623
It's pink and it looks like it's wearing a dress so basically it's really gay
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>>28607623
People assume it's because Snubbull is based off of Cu Sith, which literally translates to dog fairy.
Snubbulls lore also centers around it frolicking and playing with women.

>>28607631
(You)
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>>28607485
>Do that
>Wigglytuff does not get Huge Power
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>>28607623
Bulbapedo tries to pin Snubbull's origin on the mythological Cù Sìth but that's supposed to be a giant wolf-looking dog-beast that is a harbinger of death and not a fairy
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>>28607666
>Wigglytuff does not get Huge Power
It's really jarring too considering its localized English name literally has "tough" in it.
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>>28607657
This is almost as bad as all the evil and foul pokemon from gen I that didn't get dark type.
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>>28607693
What evil and foul Pokemon?
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>>28607657
LOL I DON'T HAVE AN ACTUAL FUCKING ARGUMENT SO LEMME JUST RESPOND WITH (JEW) XDDD
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>>28607747
Here's the last (You) you're going to get
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>>28607730
he probably meant most of the poison types since they were commonly used by team rocket like Weezing and Arbok. Poison/dark is amazing typing; Mega Arbok when?
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>>28607093
It's a great way to identify a shitter. Upon seeing a fast Bug/Steel type, which of these do you do?
>Hustle is a pain, but it gets Hone Claws to fix the accuracy drop and has a great movepool so it should be able to cause quite a dent on my opponents
>I'm going to use Entrainment to pass Truant on, forcing a switch while I also switch to something else to try setting up and make this Pokemon completely useless for everything else
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>>28607762
>he probably meant most of the poison types since they were commonly used by team rocket
That's not a reason for a Pokemon to have Dark typing.

The only Pokemon from Gen 1 I can think of that deserves Dark typing is Hypno, and that's only based on a single instance in one game where a Hypno chases a child through the woods to put her to sleep and eat her dreams.
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>>28607747
He's been calling everything bait since the beginning of the thread, just ignore him.
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>>28607808
Here's a (You) for you, friend. I know these are trying times.
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>>28607778
Spearows are about as "evil" as houndours. Oddish lines is poison because they are foul, not because of actual poison (unlike belssprouts, which deal with acid and shit). Hell, oddish line could've been a candidate for fairy, too, as it is involved in magical shit and the moon and night. Mankey line is about as evil as scrafty line, ghastly is poison because it's mean. As it's body is composed of gas which can suffocate, but it learns no real poison moves on it's own, implying it has no real poisonous properties.

And then there is hypno which you added in.
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>>28607093
>Is there any advantage to this?

Cheesing the battle subway
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>>28607865
>Spearows are about as "evil" as houndours.
I don't see this at all. Houndours are literally hell hounds. Spearows are just big birds.
>Oddish lines is poison because they are foul, not because of actual poison
That's not true at all. Did you forget about Gloom?
>Mankey line is about as evil as scrafty line
No? Mankey are just monkeys/apes who can get really angry. Scrafty are based on gansters/gangs.
Here's a Pokedex entry for Scrafty:
>Groups of them beat up anything that enters their territory. Each can spit acidic liquid from its mouth.

>ghastly is poison because it's mean
This isn't even remotely true.
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>>28607768
Truant Durant is literally a staple of 1000 single streaks in maison/subway
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>>28607955
Because the AI is too dumb to switch.
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>>28607953
Poison was the defacto "This thing is evil" type in gen I. It's why so much shit has it.
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>>28607980
>Poison was the defacto "This thing is evil" type in gen I.
Yeah. Beedrill and Venonaut are so evil.
Are we serious right now?
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>>28607955
That's cheesing though. It's like admitting defeat because you can't beat them legitimately.
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>>28607998
>legitimately
Battle Tower and its variants don't fight "legitimately" either.
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>>28607987
well beedrill certainly is, whenever he appears in the manga or anime, beedrill is always a fucking asshole to everyone
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>tfw HA durant is a true ant
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>>28608008
>whenever he appears in the manga or anime
No relation to the games.
This is the same argument as "Every Pokemon Team Rocket used should be Dark type."
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>>28607682
>Not a fairy
Based on what? The fucking original headless horseman, the Dullahan that rode around killing people by calling out their names is considered a fairy. Snubbull might not be based n the Cu Sith but that doesn't make the Cu Sith not a fairy.
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>>28607531

The point of tiers is to create metas so more pokemon are playable.
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>>28608006
This is true. That's why you shouldn't feel bad about hacking 6IV Pokemon for those facilities.
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>>28607093
Step 1: Truant Durant uses Entrainment to give Truant to the opponent.
Step 2: Ally uses any kind of ability negating/changing move on Durant.
Step 3: ???
Step 4: Profit.
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>>28608017
huhu, here's the (You)
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>>28607093
>hidden ability: Light Metal
I really dislike this one, it just reduces damage from Low Kick, since poks that have this HA are resistant to Grass Knot.

And fucking event regis all have HA.
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>>28607414
>It wouldn't lose anything from losing poison
Sludge bomb.
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>>28607865
>Oddish lines is poison because they are foul, not because of actual poison
"Vileplume's toxic pollen triggers atrocious allergy attacks. That's why it is advisable never to approach any attractive flowers in a jungle, however pretty they may be."
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>>28608085
>Step 2: Ally uses any kind of ability negating/changing move on Durant
This part is not necessary, in fact it's a complete waste of time, aside from its ability Durant isn't worth using.
In BW truant Durant was used as a lead for Battle Subway, you just put a choice scarf on Durant, use Entrainment, switch into Dragonite/Gyarados and set up DD.
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>>28609143
>event regis
Event Victini w/o v-create and Registeel with HA, into the rash.
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>>28607093
you dumb shit

entertainment trant durant was literally banned on smogon because of how OP it was
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>>28607485
What's the pun?
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