Which pokemon that is UU and under if given a gale wings equivalent would be instantly top tier OU?
Is Staraptor still in BL? Because I want to say Staraptor anyway.
>>28606575
Archeops
Braviary
Moltres.
Well several other birds (Staraptor, Braviary, Honchkrow) would outclass Talonflame if they got Gale Wings. Rampardos would shoot out of PU if it got a rock equivalent. Priority Head Smash off of base 165 attack? Yes please
rampardos - rock
chandelure - fire
darmanitan - fire
machamp - fighting
Gale wings Chatter would be ebin
>>28606611
Oh and slaking too I guess
>>28606630
No they wouldn't. People need to remember that talonflame also has stab fire and an already incredible speed stat to work with. It's not totally reliant on gale wings contrary to popular opinion
>>28606632
You're the first one to read the OP correctly. My bad. Given that, OP's question is ridiculous. I could list more than 100 pokemon.
Flash Frost Aurorus would be even more broken than Talonflame because it could run Life orb with Ice Beam, HP Fire, Earth Power, and thunderbolt and cover all of its weaknesses on the switch.
>>28606630
>Priority Head Smash off of base 165 attack + Choice band
Just fuck my metagame up phamm
>>28606659
>tbolt
What is freeze dry
>>28606632
Agree except for Machamp, without No Guard it wouldn't be that great
>>28606649
I'm not saying Talonflame has nothing else going for it, but Gale Wings Talonflame is outclassed in almost every way by Gale Wings Staraptor. Ever played Almost Any Ability? Talonflame is nowhere near the best user of Gale Wings.
>Regigigas got it's shit together with Fast Start!
>>28606725
>priority bird button/Close Fucking Combat/Return/U-turn off a decent-ish amount of speed
Oh the deliciousness.
>>28606691
The only way to kill that thing is with the head smash recoil ... After killing half your team
>>28606630
Talonflame has STAB Flare Blitz off of 126 speed. It also has access to Wil-o-Wisp, Tailwind and U-Turn. You're joking, right?
i'm suprised no one mentioned Slaking yet
>>28606975
Why should Slaking be mentioned? Literally almost any ability would make Slaking better than he already is
Heliolisk
>>28606975
Maybe try reading >>28606634
>>28606734
>not Head Start
>>28606959
>Tailwind
>U-turn
Staraptor gets those. So does Braviary.
>will-o-wisp
>flare blitz
Not enough imo. It's specially defensive set would retain its niche, but the offensive sets would be outclassed by stronger birds. Compare Gale Wings Talonflame to Gale Wings Staraptor. Staraptor has way more power behind its Brave Bird and is less weak to Stealth Rock. Talonflame's Flare Blitz gives it the advantage in breaking through steels, but Staraptor's Double-Edge lets it beat Rotom-W, while Close Combat lets it KO rocks and still deal solid damage to steels. Staraptor's greater power also mitigates Talonflame's speed advantage - Staraptor Brave Bird gets a lot of KOs than Talonflame misses, so it doesn't rely on fast U-turn nearly as much.
>>28606959
>using flare blitz on talonflame
talonflame's attack and defense are so pitiful. a bulky set works better most of the time.
>>28607311
bulky set? Fucking what? The bird is there to fucking shit up as much as possible before dying. No one is trying to sit there and roost when 99% of OU one shots it. I will never understand you weirdos. Talonflame is the best revenge killer in the game and the best switch bait. Come in on anything weak to fire or flying and when they switch, you set up swords dance and now you can hit anything like a truck resist or not. You don't fucking use its bulk
>>28607346
It's a niche set, but it can be useful. It walls Charizard-Y, and it outspeeds mosts mons so it can taunt or burn them. It's only really useful on stall or very bulky balance teams though.
giving Toxicroak a "Ninjutsu" move that gives poison priority would be "fuck fairies" the pokemon
>>28606767
or by using mach punch/bullet punch because rampardos is still fucking slow
>>28607346
You dumb garbage retard, the specially defensive Talonflame set is literally the most popular one right now. It's by far the best set it can run
>>28607346
t. Mad Talonfag
Your shitmon is garbage without its broken ability, get over it
>>28607707
>bottom screen
kek
>top screen
Fuck my sides are in orbit look what you did.
>>28606734
How about giving regigigas skill swap?
Wouldn't virtually every decent offensive mon that doesn't rely on its ability fall into this category?
>>28607707
There's a Roost missing somewhere in that picture.
>>28607675
>specially defensive talonflame
>use the defensive properties of a glass cannon revenge killer
kek
I'll do better- Unfezant is PU and with gale wings, will hit ubers, atleast OU
>inb4 bad stats
It has higher attack than unfezant and learns sky attack.
>>28608383
Why would Sky Attack be even remotely decent regardless it's still shit.
Unless you're implying >Power herb
>>28608383
Movepool is beyond shit, wouldn't even make OU.
>>28608383
Nah, Fire is a much more useful type than Normal is. Unfezant also lacks decent utility and a strong boosting move, unlike Talonflame.
Not to mention the fact that it gets fuck all for Flying coverage.
>>28606734
I'd love to see a Pokemon that had shit stats, except it's ability doubled or even tripled it's stats for the first 5 turns of battle. Couldn't proc multiple times in one battle, obviously.
>>28607707
>Type : Brave - Bird
I lose evertiem
>>28606725
Machamp has access to Close Combat. It's a pretty powerful move off of 130 base attack. If the likes of Infernape with 104 attack can make it powerful, than Machamp can
That said, Conkeldurr with priority Drain Punch and double priority Bullet Punch will definitely pull him back to Ou
Slaking with a normal type Gale Wings would probably be AG, though, not OU.