/pmdg/ - Pokemon Mystery Dungeon

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Cute! CUTE!

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Pokemon's Guide On How To Be A Human.

I am dying. this is golden

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>>28524947
Some people may find you annoying, but you're a good sight in my book.

>>28524859
>By the way, how do you think the new sun/moon mon's will be incorporated in the next game?
I'm curious to see how Mimikyu's ability will work. I'm guessing it would be once per floor, but that seems a little underwhelming.

>>28524859
Oh fuck, who drew me (Cyndaquil) and my partner? It's like the person who drew this knew my partner loves me. I think my autistic headcanon is showing.

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>>28524947
Such an adorable Pupper

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>>28524959
"What is Earth?"
"It's what humans call their world."

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>>28524859
>By the way, how do you think the new sun/moon mon's will be incorporated in the next game?
The UBs, being non-Pokemon, are inherently powered by negativity, because we can't have anything nice in PMD anymore without black vs white morals.

by the way I'm being sarcastic

>>28525000
Well, when you throw it out there, people are sure to notice - no offense.

At least your trips will probably make up for it.

>>28525021
Wait isn't that Espanon?

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>>28524959
>reading and laughing at the article
>get to the sections on human relationships and love
>all I can think about is how I'd explain them to my partner as they listen intently

>>28524859
>>28525159
>a sizeable amount of Ultra Beasts are released
>next PMD game starts the same way as the other PMD games, as a human transported into the Pokemon world
>except instead of becoming a weak pokemon, you become a severely depowered UB

Oddly dead today, isn't it?

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>>28524947

>>28524947
How do you feel about other dogmons?

I replayed RT and never actually noticed how short the main story is? It always felt so much longer as a kid.

Onto Sky, I guess.

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>>28527851
They're all cute! CUTE! Manectric's line and Houndour are pretty close seconds, after the Pooch line.

>>28527943
Rescue Team never really had much of a plot to begin with, besides the Ninetales arc. Everything that happened was usually disconnected from the other events in the game.
None of the games felt especially long besides Sky if you played the Special Episodes right when you unlock them.

>>28528196
>None of the games felt especially long besides Sky if you played the Special Episodes right when you unlock them.
I agree, but Sky sill feels a lot longer because of the postgame plot.

>besides the Ninetales arc
Well, that's pretty much all of the plot it had though. You say arc as if it's just a section of the game, but some of it is still in other parts of the game, like the beginning and the postgame.
Still, RT has the most original plot, since everything past Sky felt like it was trying to be a better Sky.

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Scan when?

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>>28528439
>fleshy ampharos
I dont like it

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>>28528439
delete this

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>>28528439
>having cheap sex with random people
>not having a close, platonic relationship with your one true partner, complete with hand holding
C'mon anon

>>28528717
>Flaaffy dex entries
>Its fluffy fleece easily stores electricity. Its rubbery hide keeps it from being electrocuted.
>Not even downy wool will grow on its rubbery, nonconductive patches of skin that prevent electrical shock.

And Ampharos is Flaffy with even less wool.
Ergo Ampharos is wholly rubbery

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>>28528439
DELET THIS!

>>28529130
Is this a Jojo reference dude?

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>>28530668
What's up with this guy's falseflagging? It's pretty obvious.

>DAE X looks like JOJO???? LOL I love jojo for realsies

>>28530668
No

>>28530725
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, I'm just asking a fucking question dude. Chill your balls off you fucking stad.

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>>28530668
>>28530812
If that was really a legitimate question, no. It's just one of Emolga's lines in GTI that became kind of a meme.

>>28530899
Ah I see, thanks for clarifying, my friend. And yes, it was a legitimate question by the way, >>28530725 is just your typical paranoid /pol/tard judging by his use of the falseflag meme.

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>>28530812 (You)

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>>28530668
>XD TRYIN TO MOCK LE EVERYTHING IS JOJO MEME XD

>>28524859
My same team lol

>>28529506
Why do you like Poochyena/Jigglypuff so much anyway? It's no worse than all the people here who love their starter picks, but those are odd choices even by custom starter standards.

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>>28528439

>>28531569
I think he mentioned in a previous thread that it was because they were pokemon he used on his team in Emerald and thought they were cute or got attached or something.

>>28528439
Don't think that one is here, but I found a goldmine: https://www.doujinshi.org/browse/parody/3306/Pok%C3%A9mon-Mystery-Dungeon-(series)/?page=2

>>28534663
Found some more screenshots of it, But I think someone's gonna have to give Hiro some yen and scan this shit if we ever want to view it all.

https://www.doujinshi.org/book/859536/CONNECTED!!!/

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>>28534757
>that Ampharos dick

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>>28534979
Stop this.

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Let's have some more discussion on lore, settings and things like that as we had in the last threads. Would help bump the thread anyway.

So, let's say you were chosen to write the new partners personality. What would you make it?

>>28535370
I guess they'd start off as an outlaw, whom the main character has intense moral dilemmas over but is hopelessly attached to. It'd start a little bit like the hunted arc of Rescue Team, except your partner has kind of a hidden little base where they stash stuff and hide from the law. When I mean hiding from the law, I don't mean they fuckin murdered someone in cold blood or anything. Just a few petty thief things that landed them on the bad side of any cop that recognizes them. Since it WOULD be for a PMD game, and since it'd make them more prone to sympathy anyway-- I'm sure they'd have a good heart and would often demonstrate their kindness in ways other than taking in some weird fag that calls themselves a human and doesn't really know shit. The flip side would be that they themselves would feel little guilt for the crimes they've done and things they stole, forcing the player character into somewhat of a difficult position beyond plots like "Oh shit the world is ending."

>>28535370
Give the player 2 partners.

First one wants to be famous and admired for being a great and brave explorer/rescuer/detective/etc, but is actually a coward, selfish, and tends to lie. Doesn't like the player very much, but all of this changes over time.

Second partner is nicer, but has zero confidence in their strength as a pokemon (feeling like they're not very strong for a variety of reasons, they overthink this a lot), so they prefer to study mystery dungeons and map out the ones you visit (alongside lore of interest). Changes over time to become more confident in their other abilities.

>>28535370
Partner's abrasive and forced to adventure with you for one reason or another, doesn't believe you when you mention the whole "i'm a human" deal until some point in the story when it's mentioned by some legendary. Until then, gradually you grow on them through saving them from bad situations and adventures.

>>28535370
This >>28535976 is basically what I was gonna post.

Alternatively, could be something as simple as a by-the-book do-gooder who learns to let loose and make their own (sometimes "wrong") decisions.

>>28536198
>rank affects recruiting
joe pls

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>listing 2 dummied out TMs

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>>28543169
Congrats anon.What's next?

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>>28543199
Only Jirachi and the Green Onion Fairy left and then it's all over.

I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel

nectar meadows is kicking my ass, is that normal?

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>>28543362
>green onion fairy
>tfw I am done with most dungeons (only Lv. 1s and Buried Relic's branch left; five in total) and I will face that place in near future
it's time to prepare for kekleon recruiting.

i am not sending anyone else into that hellish forest

>>28543828
Super kicking your ass in general is pretty normal. Bring along more wands and orbs, and don't be afraid to use them in a pinch. Know when to avoid fights if you don't think you can survive the encounter.

Good luck, and fuck those bees up.

Which one should i buyfor 2ds ? New to the series.

>>28544747
Super Mystery Dungeon.

Gates to Infinity has a great story but a very lacking gameplay. It's worth playing if you hack your console though, but not a whole 40 bucks.

>>28544747
On 2DS, you have only Super and GtI.

Supe has the best gameplay, but the difficulty curve is definitely more steep than any other games. The plot also goes sideways in the second half.

Gates' story is praised, but gameplay leaves much to be desired. There's also only ~144 Pokemon you can recruit. Some of which aren't Unova Pokemon (as if 144 wasn't forcing to abandon some already).

>>28544747
If you can play DS games start with Blue Rescue Team, then play Explorers of Sky (then GtI if you care about story and what they've tried to do with that game, if you want) and then Super.
If you can't get DS games, just play Super.
Also hack your 3DS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcz2vHLqtNw
Would War Greymon win against 255 stats Unburden Drifbloom with all items and minimize and ominous wind and other shit?

>>28545734
Of course not.

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>>28545918
Good.

Show him no mercy.

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>let's defeat this salamance together

Some moves have PP caps that go beyond 30 in PSMD, Tackle caps at 99 for example.
Grinding PP drinks to max moves like Tackle's PP could be useful now that regular attacks only deal a set 5 damage.

>>28547541
The game gives you enough elixirs to make that wholly unnecessary ,though

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Finally.

Wish Cave, never again.

>>28547564
It has some worth if your lead's a support mon because then you can use less slots on offensive moves, though I doubt most people would use their attack more than 30 times before finding a (Max) Elixir.

>>28547719
You just have Celebi left. I've never tested Kecleon in Purity Forest, though, so tell me how it works out for you, okay?

Am I the only one wishing about having comfy life in Mystery Dungeon?

What Pokemon would you even become? non-huge power marill here

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>>28547719
Is Topkec actually good, other than having access to bs like Fury Swipes? I never recruited him but heard he was only OP as an enemy.

>>28548020
In Explorers, he comes at level 48 with 288 HP and 255 in all other stats. But in level 1 dungeons, he has 1 in everything.

In RT, it's one of the best choices for Level 1. It might not have the stats Zam has at level 1, but level factors heavily into damage dealt/taken, and Kecleon levels far quicker, with far better stat gains. Plus, it gets Feint Attack, Psybeam, a bunch of useful moves.

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>>28547963
Hyper Cutter Gliscor

>>28548083
>In Explorers, he comes at level 48 with 288 HP and 255 in all other stats

Holy shit. Long ago I actually got all the setup to recruit him in EoS (nice coincidence that my favmon is from the correct group) but gave up (wasn't going for all recruits but wanted to recruit him just because).

Thanks for the info anon.

>>28548167
In RT it's level 90 but with like 90 in all stats or something, i forget. Either way they're absolute pushovers if you overgrinded with Gummis

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>>28548083
This.

Here's a comparison: Zam's on left, Topkek is on right.

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>>28547908
Will do, anon.

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>>28548083
>level factors heavily into damage dealt taken
>mfw I remember this
I am fairly sure Rescue Team caps damage at 32318 or somewhere around that.

I need this to be drawn into art (like that Gyarados Hyper Beaming a Pidgey)

>>28549188
What the anon from the last thread said makes sense.
>Rescue Team caps damage at 32767 since it's stored as a signed 16-bit integer

>>28535463
>>28535577
>>28535976
>>28536235
These all sound like fine choices.

Though, admittedly, I'd absolutely like a partner that doesn't follow through with believing you're a human the most. I don't know, like if a kid IRL came up to another and seriously told them they used to be a Pokemon, they probably wouldn't take it face value and maybe be a little creeped out - so I'd suspect the opposite would more likely happen in the PMD then just instantly taking the protags word on it.

That said though, these all sound like great concepts to put in. Wonder if there's a chance Chunsoft devs look over these types of threads for ideas - probably not though.

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I can't wait to grind Cutiefly's stats to max in the next PMD game and kill everything with a pokemon that you probably can't even see the model of due to it being so small

>>28549588
It was me, and I am no longer sure f it caps at 32318 or 32767.

32318 is the highest I've ever seen it go in Rescue Team; might not've been the highest possible roll.

>>28549939
I see no reason why it would be 32318 though. If it's signed 16-bit then the maximum should be 7FFF, and if they put a cap manually, I don't see why they chose 32318 instead of something like 999.

>>28550111
I suppose that I've simply got a bad roll.

In Explorers, you can get higher values; up to the point where the small numbers overflows into healing (as I've said). You still deal damage, though.

also checked

>>28547072
Slumber wands and alliances.

>>28550456
>In Explorers, you can get higher values; up to the point where the small numbers overflows into healing
Are you sure that's the case? I remember something like that being posted here, but I'm pretty sure the game was modded. I'm not sure what it was exactly, but I think it was something like an unused type. It dealt negative damage, which healed.
Are you sure it can happen without modding the game?

>>28550840
No, I mean the small number, which caps at 999 (the red 999) in Rescue Team. I don't mean the numbers in dialogue box.

>>28550866
Oh, I see. It still seems weird that they didn't notice that though.

>>28550958
Considering you need to hit for over 32 thousand points of damage, it's not that big of an oversight. You can't even get that much in Rescue Team, only in Explorers (and probably Adv. Squad)

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>>28547963
This bastard, most likely. Not because he's a walking tank compared to most, but I think his general attitude suits me and I'm a fan of the design.

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>>28547963
This little guy right here

>>28552703
>tfw vines are an extra set of hands

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>>28547963
DOG

>>28549865
>a pokemon that you probably can't even see the model of due to it being so small
Heights are pretty inaccurate in PMD. Budew and Jigglypuff are around the same height, even though in the main series Jigglypuff's 0.3 meters (a foot) taller than Budew.

>>28553137
And Dunsparce should be way bigger than it is, right? NOTHING in Pokémon ever gets the sizes accordingly with the Pokédex.

>>28552925
Bliss. You can probably add the advantage of the shell do, With it being able to keep you from feeling pain out the backside.

wouldnt an mmo/selectively multiplayer do wonders for the series?

>>28553137
>picking something without hands

>>28553987
Front paws could pretty much work as hands, and mons that are generally portrayed as quadrupedal can still walk/stand on two feet. Pretty sure one of Sky's menu backgrounds had a bipedal Phanpy, and in Super when you befriend Manectric he stands on only his hind feet for a bit.

>>28554677
yeah i'm pretty sure dogs cant lift a thing

>>28553137
>>28554958
>dog
You're both stupid

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>>28554958
But Pokedogs are stronger than normal dogs, so it's not implausible, especially when things like this are possible.

>>28555118
dog/wolf/hyena, either way

Did they change the way Splash works in Super? It seems like you could actually make use of it to some extent, and try it out as a challenge in Level 5 dungeons.

>>28553987
I wouldn't necessarily call a dog/hyena handless. Lacking limbs in PMD doesn't seem to be an issue anyway when characters like Swirlix are able to cook.

>>28556139
>Did they change the way Splash works in Super? It seems like you could actually make use of it to some extent, and try it out as a challenge in Level 5 dungeons.
In Super it works like it did in the DS games. It's only in GtI that it works like in the main series (doing nothing at all)

>>28556139
>>28556569
In the first two games, Splash was mostly useless, but in Super, there's some use for it. You can use Splash for mobility in some cases, like if you petrified an enemy in a corridor. You can also use it for some strategies, like hopping over your teammates in a corridor when an enemy's in front of you, so that the enemy approaches your teammate, and your teammate makes the first attack, or use it to get out of things like Shadow Tag. It's nothing too amazing, but it could be fun to try out.

>>28556661
But it does move you around in the DS games. It's still something.

>>28556685
It doesn't move you like it does in Super, so it's mostly useless. In RT and Explorers the most you can do is hope you splash on a water/air tile to warp, but in Super you can use it for all the things I listed before, and even avoid activating Ditto items.

>got all treasures
>got past destiny tower surprisingly easily
>basically finished whole game after 130 hours
>don't want to start a new game immediately because of all the hard work I did in this one

What do? Go for a new file, or try and challenge some harder dungeon?

>>28556962
Play RT, go for 100%

>>28556962
Judging by the playtime, I'm guessing you're playing Super. There's still a few harder dungeons to try out, like Sacred Ruins and Meowth's Theater (though MT dungeons aren't very challenging compared to Sky Destiny Tower or Purity Forest).

>>28556962
Are you talking about Super? You've recruited everyone, right? Have you cleared all the dungeons?

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Do you lads use Wonder Mail? I'm considering not using it in Explorers of Sky so that way everything can be random.

>>28558373
Last time i used it was just to make sure I recruited Wooper early on. Not like it's far into the game or anything, i just didn't want to be too overleveled compared to it

>>28558373
I've used it for a couple things. Some TM in Super and an Eevee which I later released because I felt bad about using Wondermail to get it in Explorers plus a couple other things I'm probably forgetting.

>>28558373
I used supers wondermail codes for the free shit and extra dungeons, but that's about it.

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What's a Perfect Apple tastes like?

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>>28559250
Perfection.

>>28557063
If I cleared Destiny Tower yep. Didn't clear em all but recruiting mins took care of most of em and I don't feel like going for unexplored easy 5 floor ones.

>>28557058
Mm, right, guess I'll try my hand at Sacred Ruins.

What mons have managed to clear Sacred Ruins other than Hawlucha and Heatran? Have others been looked into?

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>>28560165
I got it done with Rotom-Wash after someone recommended it to me.
(The Loop had Barrage / Big Ears / Clairvoyance / Follow-Through / Guard Boost / Better Odds.)

>>28560165
Drifblim's still one of the best, but in order to take full advantage of Unburden you can't use looplets.

Why are orbs so cruddy?

>>28560917
t. Monster House

Damn i accidentally updated and now the broswer hack for custom starters doesnt work :/ was there a way to avoid this since it automatically forced me out of browser and go to update

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>>28556999
>>28558373
Used it for the version exclusives and the 4 dungeons. Not that I needed them, as by the time I've even thrown myself into them, I already had Tight Belt and most of the other dungeons cleared.
>>28556999
>throwing him into the hell that is this quest
i guess the trips have spoken

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>>28547963
Assuming I'm not a protagonist or a human or something, hopefully something with actual hands! I dunno, an Audino? People typecasting them into the nurse/doctor role pretty much ensures a comfy life in a town plus they're prime bullying material

How would Skitty play in RT's level 1 dungeons? Could it ever hope to reach Kecleon's tier?

>>28561436
Monster houses are uncommon in the early game, but that's a good point. I should probably have orbs for later. Later on I'll start hoarding them. Now, they're just free change.

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>>28562225
Holy shit this learnset.

>early attract
>Sing to cripple pokemon
>Doubleslap earlier than Kec's Fury Swipes

It doesn't get coverage, but it seems to get everything else. I think I might try it out tomorrow.

>>28562014
Oh my.

>>28562237
I always keep slumber and petrify orbs on me. Sometimes they're handy to have for emergencies aside from monster houses. Like walking into a room with two AoE users who I can't hit with wands. I don't have a room hitting move yet, though.

>>28562014
>prime bullying material
do not bully innocent chubby rodent.

Morning to all, /pmdg/.

What's your breakfast?

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>>28563351
>breakfast

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>>28563351
>Morning

>>28563351
But its lunch time

>>28561461
>was there a way to avoid this since it automatically forced me out of browser and go to update
The only way was to downgrade using an hardmod or another, already modded, console.
You can still launch the HBL on 11.1, but you need a game exploit that you haven't set up.
Also, I'm not sure, but I think you could have used http-ctr-pwn to spoof.

>>28563373
>>28563404
>>28563608
Alright, I get it. Sorry for being dumb.

Alternatively, how's everyone?

>>28564045
And that's another fuckup. Wow.

>>28564057
Are you ok anon

Maybe you should eat something

>>28564081
Well truth be told, I've generally been fucking up with posts recently over dumb luck. That, and I haven't been able to sleep since yesterday.

>>28526490
>become babby eldritch horror
This is good. There aren't a lot of games where the MC is an abomination of space/time.

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>>28564045
I don't know how you managed to mistake Misty for me but OK.

My day's been pretty good so far, thanks for asking.

>>28564273
Something happened with the end number when I posted it, don't know how.

That's a nice peR you have.

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daily reminder that our savior has a mouth

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Has anyone tried to use their faves throughout the game without stat boosting?

>>28566312
>Drifblim
Yeah.

>>28566312
Not yet, because most aren't really THAT good.

>>28566312
No, because I'm not a masochist.

>>28567274
>masochist
It's not as hard as you think, anon

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bum

>>28568952
no bum

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>Meanwhile in Generations, Wooper
Drifloon episode when

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Been holding off on this for a while, guess I should at least beat the main story before putting it off again.

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>>28572334
rip /pmdg/

>>28573651
It's been deader than this before. We always bounce back.

>>28573651
It had a long run, but all things come to an end.
Maybe if Chunsoft's coding had not been a mess, we would have seen more modding than custom starters.

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>>28573670
>mfw I've been the OP a few times, but one time the thread was deleted before anybody posted in it

>>28573651
At least wait til I finish this chapter, geez.

>was going to try out Skitty in RT's Wish Cave
>forgot it's the weekend

I gotta shiny hunt instead

>>28572334
Why would a seed need to diet?

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>>28547963
Bibarel

i-i want to have an underwater hideout, maybe build bridges or own a riverside shop

>>28573697
But we are seeing more than that.

>>28574228
>Accidentally read underwater as underwear
Mmm

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>>28573697
The only thing I can think of modding-wise beyond the tools for Explorers and starter/moveset modding in Super is music modding for Gates/Super. Haven't actually looked around yet, but I'd assume the games use the same music file format that games like Mario Kart 7 do, so it should be possible.

I doubt anyone would ever want to/bother with that though. For Super, I'd probably just change Meowth's Theater dungeon music to something a bit more interesting, but since I play on cart it'd be a waste of time to do all that for something so minor. Might try screwing around with Gates sometime though.

When you eat gummies do you share with your partner in game or just eat them yourself? I'm eating all of them, and just got an ability that improves my health. Feelsgood.

I just don't think the AI will be as useful with some iq abilities, so I don't

>>28575477
I share them with my partner in explorers since they boost stats too.

>>28575477
>he doesn't Pierce Hurl the gummis through the team so everyone gets an IQ buff

>>28575459
>is music modding for Gates/Super. Haven't actually looked around yet, but I'd assume the games use the same music file format that games like Mario Kart 7 do, so it should be possible.
I tried it by myself some time ago. Yes, it's just .bcstm files.

>since I play on cart
Can't you use LayeredFS?

>The only thing I can think of modding-wise beyond the tools for Explorers and starter/moveset modding
Well, we can edit dialogues, scripts and menus in GtI/Super (though it still needs some reverse engineering).
We also can edit the dungeons in RT and Explorers. I edited manually the first dungeon in RRT (not BRT because I didn't want to bother extracting the files and repacking the rom, and I'm actually not sure where I can find that information specifically for BRT, but I assume it can be found or is otherwise easy to find if it shares the same structure with RRT, and I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case). My edit isn't really interesting, I just happened to find the information on a site and decided to try them out.
The same goes for Explorers. If you go to the Project Pokémon thread there's actually a lot of stuff documented, including the dungeons. The only thing that uses it at the moment is the randomizer though. It would be nice to have an editor.

>>28562267
I had 7 strongbows for dinner.

Sky=Gates=Super>Rescue Team

Discuss

>>28573651
fuck off back to /b/ you double nigger

>>28576009
>Sky=Gates
what

>Gates=Super
what

>Gates>Rescue Team
what

>>28576078
Gates's story is the best by a country mile.

Super had much better gameplay but a shit story.

Sky had decent gameplay and a decent story. Episodes were much better.

Rescue Team is utterly obsolete since Explorers is better in every aspect.

>>28576112
>Gates's story is the best by a country mile.
It's the gameplay that ruins it, despite it being the first game to have good controls. You're only talking about the story here.

>Rescue Team is utterly obsolete since Explorers is better in every aspect.
Well, I'm not complaining about Explorers being above Rescue Team.

>>28575941
>Can't you use LayeredFS?
Hasn't even crossed my mind, I'll just use that whenever I want to do on-cart mods from now on. Usually just create modded .cia files for games I don't play on cart, like with Smash and Mario Kart. Thanks anon.

Also a bit out of the loop on the games' mods since I don't frequent Project Pokemon much, but the randomizer seems pretty neat. Is it like the main series and Fire Emblem's randomizers where it's mosty fine besides the obvious character/stat changes, or does it spit out gibberish sometimes?

>>28576187
You can choose what to randomize. This can be dungeons (graphics, music, Pokémon, items and I think layouts), Pokémon learnsets, Pokémon types and even text (which is pretty much pointless, but can be funny)

>>28576169
Quality of life changes made the gameplay better than Rescue Team's. Doesn't matter how much post-credits content there is if it's not worth playing. Same applies to Sky after the post credits events

Only Super had a worthy post game, even if it technically had less content than the DS games. On second thoughts, I'd put Super above the rest of the games for this alone, even if it was dragged down by a shitty story, albeit with the occasional great moment.

>>28576112
>Super's story is shit
When will this meme end?
>Gates has the best story
When will THIS meme end?

>>28576242
Ah, okay. I remember seeing a few images where the game displayed garbage text instead of normal text, so I thought that's what it'd always be like. I might give it a try some time, seems interesting.

>>28576265
>>Super's story is shit
>When will this meme end?
Serene Village and everything /ss/-related were good.

>>28576250
RT has the best postgame. There's a feeling of freedom in choosing what to do and what you can do doesn't feel as pointless as it does in the next games.
However, I don't see why you would talk about Sky's postgame like that, unless you mean the post-postgame. It's pretty much just the same thing as the main game.

>Quality of life changes made the gameplay better than Rescue Team's.
It made menus better, not the gameplay itself.

>>28576265
>When will this meme end?
When Super stops putting all the focus on one shitty character. Could have had a great ensemble cast if they kept the school kids relevant.
>When will THIS meme end?
When Gates's story gets a brain hemorrhage and then decides that the partner needed more focus.

>>28576390
While I think it would have been great if the school kids had more focus, maybe with a longer postgame or something, the partner is great.

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>>28576390
>one shitty character
Is this the face a shitty character?

Why do you think focusing on the character you spend the whole game with is a bad idea? Why don't you like the partner in these games? Your Gates comment makes me think this isn't Super specific.

>>28576438
The partner WOULD be great if he wasn't front and centre of the entire story. He's like ice cream - great in short doses, but makes me sick if eat two whole tubs over an entire day.

It's probably the reason why I'm so salty over Super's story. The first half, while it did nothing plot wise, had a great character set up with a truly great formula to base the plot on. The second half ditched this set up entirely. The Society should have been dropped from the game entirely.

>>28576365
>liking /ss/
>being a healslut
I'm starting to think you're a fag Poochanon

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>>28576601
There is nothing wrong with being the healer, anon.

Just caught a shiny Virizion, and since it's in Gates, i figured here was a good place to ask for a nickname

>>28577424
Friendzone

I played Sky and decided to take a break. The text dumps honestly drain me.

>>28577843
If you're annoyed by them now, they get worse when you get back from the future. Every few minutes you get flashbacks of scenes that happened only a cutscene before. Sky has it a bit worse in the early game too, with Spinda's Cafe stuff that gets overexplained and sometimes kills the mood (like the whole Project P crap after Apple Woods).
If you're not used to this kind of thing, then Gates and Super might not be your thing either, since the former also suffers from having a slow text speed, and Super loves to tell, not show, resulting in a ton of infodumps to get out of dumb plot points.

>>28577843
Which part of the game are you at?

>>28578169
First Expedition completed.

Not my first playthrough, but I remember how much I dislike the dragging on text. Red Rescue Team is better in this, if nothing else. Not as much fluff.

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I hope Iwanko/Lugarugan is playable in the next PMD.

Also bump

>>28579363
I'd bet on rockruff definitely being a starter

>>28579363
Hoo boy, It'd sure be nice if google didn't fuck with their goddamn image search so that it almost never displays anything useful.

>>28576727
>it's okay to be the healer
>posts Azama, someone who should immediately switch out of the healer class for offense instead

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>>28579516
Took me a while to find the guy's Twitter again, it's @akitakaR25
Game's not even out yet and Lugarugan's line is becoming one of my favorites already

>>28579893
Asama's fine even in the Monk tree, though I won't deny he's a better fighter than healer. Still my favorite class type regardless.

>>28579363
fuck that, where's my electrosheep starter?

>>28580576
Play Light and finish Stormy already

>>28580607
i cant read it though

>>28580516
>akitakaR25
Neato, thanks.
The artstyle made me think the artist did porn of some sort, and I wanted to see if I was right or not. I didn't expect it to be bara shit, but at least my guess was at least partially correct.

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>>28576499
No, this is the face of a shitty character.

>>28581129
At the end of the day they're different entities and that's what matters.

>>28581129
>I'm actually Mew
I actually liked the partner, but the whole ending and epilogue bugged me.

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>>28581325
Note that I never mentioned that I hated the Super partner. They were pretty cool up until the ending.

>>28581321
Yeah, I guess you're right. I just wish I could forget that the ending ever happened.

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>>28524947
Dusknoir a CUTE!

>>28577424
bumping my question, i'm at a loss

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"Let me ask you a question.
Do you like awesome things that are awesome?
Then you gotta play this game, dude. It's freaking cool. And crazy addictive. Like, popping bubble wrap addictive! Check this out.
See, that's your Drifblim. Then you've got moves: there's Minimize, Gust, Astonish, Stockpile, Ominous Wind. There's probably a move that makes you Oren Berries! I don't know!
But I saved the best for last. Unburden!
You use a move twice in a turn with a single PP! Stuff that will make the bad guys cry like an anime fan on prom night.
So, what do you think? You ready to play?"

>gates and super's stories are at the opposite side of spectrum memes

well that happened overnight

Question: Do custom PSMD save files work on citra?And if yes,I would like a link to a PSMD rom online so I can download it.Thanks in advance!

>>28585458
>Do custom PSMD save files work on citra?
I don't see why not.

Ok /pmdg/, we all know first stages are the best, but which fully evolved Pokémon do you like?

>>28584432
Nice attack you have there, Phanpy.

It's better than nothing.

>>28586840
MegaCharizard X, Alolan Ninetales, Jolteon, Meganium, Espeon, Umbreon, MegaBlaziken, Mightyena, MegaAltaria, Empoleon, Luxray, Roserade, Drifblim, Lucario, MegaLucario, Leafeon, Glaceon, Chandelure, Hydreigon, Sylveon.

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>>28586840
I have a lot of favorite evolved mons, it's just that I usually prefer their unevolved forms more.
The few I prefer evolved include Manectric, Jolteon, Ninetales, Xatu, Staraptor, Tyrantrum, Blissey, Floatzel, Luzray, Hydreigon and Lugarugan.

>>28524947
Poochyena is shit! SHIT!

>>28586840
A lot, actually. I am not really too picky.

Might as well just say which Pokemon I prefer evolved: Weezing, Vaporeon, Furret, Crobat, Lanturn, Scizor, Aggron, Whiscash, Togekiss, Serperior

if we talking about these who don't evolve at all: Dunsparce, Corsola, Skarmory, Plusle/Minun, Spinda, Audino

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>>28588864
Do not bully the Pochi

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Why is this choice even allowed to be made

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>>28590013
S A V A G E

Is it possible to lose the colored bow and the scarf you and your partner get at the start of Sky?

>>28590589
Scarf? I think you can.

Bow? idk

>>28590589
The colored/aura bow is never lost, unless you delete your quicksave (which removes all items in the bag) or accidentally trash, sell, or trade it. It's mostly useless, though.

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>>28590274
Yeah, I don't know why anyone would pick that after everything they just went through.

To the anon who was asking about Kecleon in Purity Forest: Kek works just as well as in Wish Cave; making most fights super easy. Just watch out for wall-phasing Shuppets with Screech/Spite. Parasects are no problem if you stock up on Chesto Berries beforehand and eat them in rooms with enemies offscreen. Unlike Wish Cave though, pic related was my moveset instead of the usual Lick/Psybeam/Screech+Fury Swipes.

...Honestly, this dungeon was a lot easier than I expected. But I guess that's also to be expected when you're using the best possible Pokemon for it.

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>>28586840
Who else?

>>28586840
Pretty much all of them.

I only don't like evolving in these games, I love final evos in everything else.

I've been thinking about getting Gates, is the gameplay really that bad? I'm usually more interested in the story, so people talking about it's better plot has me interested. It has to play better than RT right?

>>28593269
There's QoL features that RT doesn't have. If you played Super, you should know about most of them already, since it's the L+(button) to use any move, and the move growth system, and your bag space is bigger than RT's.
I think people tend to exaggerate a bit when they mention how bad it is, because while you could argue that it's the worst in the series, there's still some positives it brings to the table and none of them had particularly challenging/engaging gameplay until Super

>>28593269
The gameplay itself is bad, but menus are improved a lot from the DS games and they had some nice interesting ideas to make the experience more enjoyable.

>It has to play better than RT right?
Maybe it's executed better than RT's, but I don't know if I can say that the plot itself is better. The interesting thing about GtI's plot is that it focuses more on the characters than the other games. Take that away and it's not as interesting. Actually, take that away and it's the most basic one yet.

>>28593431
>he thinks super is hard

>>28593787
>implying any of them are hard
Super's gameplay was at least more better than Explorers' "use STAB/Quick Striker to win" strategy

All PMDs have shit gameplay.

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>>28594134

>>28594236
The gameplay's poor and I'm pretty sure most people here like the games because of the plot (which is only great by Pokemon standards) or because they want to fuck a character in the games. All of the games can be easily cheesed one way or another due to how overpowered the player characters' abilities are and how weak the opponents are, and if you really suck that much, the game hands out candy and vitamins that boost your stats, so you can roid yourself out or use shitmons that could potentially give the game some worth if you used them without capping them.
There's plenty of better roguelikes out there; even the non-Pokemon games in the MD series have better gameplay.

>>28593995
I never implied that.

>>28594362
It's still good as an introduction to the genre, just like the main series. Actually, that's the whole point.

>>28594884
Shiren already exists to fill the role of "babby's first roguelike", since many general rogue features are included in it while still making it easier for players who have never played a dungeon crawler before. PMD's still primarily Pokemon, and goes beyond making it casual for people to get into the genre. Using overpowered moves like Blizzard matters more than planning out what items to use and each of your party members' skills. In PMD everyone ends up having an identical role due to how easy it is to find stat boosters, and unlike an actual roguelike which usually punishes you for screwing up and discourages savescumming, the penalty for dying barely matters at all, especially since your levels and stats stay the same, and Super gives you Progress Devices to retry whenever you fuck up.
There's being entry level easy, and there's PMD.

>>28595087
While you ARE right, you have to keep in mind that Shiren is still difficult to get into for people who have no idea what to do at all, that Pokémon gets more attention, that most people don't actually spend their time overpowering themselves and that level 1/5 dungeons still exist.

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If I wanted to play an actual roguelike I would and do, I'm appreciate PMD being very light on the difficulty and enjoy the setting. It also helps if you're a loser who fantasizes about the pokemon world every now and then.

>>28595276
>Shiren is still difficult to get into for people who have no idea what to do at all
The townspeople all provide tutorials and basic information on what to do, so even people going in blind can figure things out after some trial and error. Hell, you can't even enter your first dungeon until you learn how to swap places with friendly NPCs.
>Pokémon gets more attention
That shouldn't excuse making the game too easy. Other popular games still have their own difficult entries, I don't see why it being Pokemon should be a valid excuse.
>that most people don't actually spend their time overpowering themselves
Even in the maingame, you don't have to go out of your way to overpower yourself. Plenty of gummis and gold bars show up for you to shove down your player character's throat. The only stat you'd have to go out of your way for to cap would be HP, and even then your other stats are so high that it doesn't even matter at that point.
>that level 1/5 dungeons still exist
You mean the level 1 dungeons that have overpowered items like Warp/Pass Scarves and Ally Reviver emeras, and allow you to bring crutch units like Alakazam/Kecleon/Drifblim/Hawlucha?

>>28594362
I like it because I like Pokemon and have dumb OTPs

>>28594884
Sorry, it's just that you saying that made it seem like you were saying the other entries were harder than Super. I just think Super's more difficult than the rest of the series and requires more than just pressing A to get by, but it's still a relatively easy game.

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>>28595587
super's pretty easy if you have experience with other MDs or the roguelike genre in general, I remember around when SMD came out last year though, lots of people were struggling or complaining about having to use items to cover their ass

I don't think the PMD games should be hard since the franchise name is going to attract a lot of kids who'd inevitably get frustrated with something with higher difficulty.

So I've never played a MD game and am downloading super right now.

Anything I should know? I'm going to take the personality test but will probably switch to Snivy if I don't get something I like.

>>28595955
items are your friend, don't be afraid to use them

>>28595955
Evolving has no bearing on stats in SMD. So if you like a pre-evo more you're in luck

>>28595955
Use items and remember that the protagonist and partner are the only reliable teammates, the rest take breaks.

>>28595495
>That shouldn't excuse making the game too easy. Other popular games still have their own difficult entries, I don't see why it being Pokemon should be a valid excuse.
It being popular isn't an excuse for being easy. I was just saying that it's more likely that people get interested in Pokémon Mystery Dungeon because it's Pokémon. At this point I don't think they should change the way PMD works, but they should have some sort of "special episodes" working like traditional roguelikes (or even better, Shiren, if they have some npcs advancements), that has something that makes them different from the normal level 1 dungeons and maybe items/mechanics that can only be find there.

Yes, the game is still easy regardless. But you have to remember that some people still manage to have trouble with it, at least at first (I hope).

>You mean the level 1 dungeons that have overpowered items like Warp/Pass Scarves and Ally Reviver emeras, and allow you to bring crutch units like Alakazam/Kecleon/Drifblim/Hawlucha?
Yes. It's still harder than the main game and shows you how the games are generally structured. I think they should be improved though.

>>28596267
I wouldn't mind there being more optional content in PMD with higher difficulty but the main game's difficulty definitely shouldn't be along the lines of Shiren or traditional roguelikes

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>>28596340
>tfw I still haven't reached any notable location in NetHack
At least 3.6.0 got released. 12 years after previous version.

Roguelikes are among my favorite genres because they're so random.

>>28596927
I've managed to get pretty far through nethack at some point but I've never gotten anywhere meaningful in ADOM

fuck that game

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>at Foggy Forest
>Purin still has single digit defenses

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>>28596949
>there are people doing special runs of that game

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>>28594362
Only PMD with good gameplay is Super

Only good PMD with a good story is Gates

>>28597048
Maybe one day I'll reinstall dwarf fortress
>tfw no longer a student with a million hours to spare and can't enjoy stupidly slow games any more

Friendly reminder that Psyduck has a neverending headache

>>28602732
To be fair, I'm sure having an eternal headache is much more bearable if it also gives you psychic powers.

>>28602844
>turn into psyduck
>have everlasting migraine
>can't do anything but hold your head in pain
>can't focus enough to use the powers
>your only hope for help is to evolve
>but you can't fight anything like that

>>28602907
This was actually the first thing I thought of whenever I got Psyduck in RT.

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Despite her pitiful stats, Purin/Jigglypuff's good for solo boss fights, since she has access to both Sing and Disable.
She'll probably get her ass kicked by the Electrike gang.

>>28604403
>that HP
>defense stats below 20
Why are you doing this to yourself Poochfag

>>28604403
shoulda used Igglybuff

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>>28564245
I could think of one.

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>>28604725
Already did multiple runs of Sky with stat boosters, and it was very easy. Thought I'd give it a try without using them.

>>28604854
>abandoning Jigglypuff
>ever

>>28590013
what happens if you say no, anyway?

>>28605278
I'd imagine saying no to that question would probably involve Celebi not joining the team.

>>28605401
I know, but does Celebi do anything? Or does the player just walk out/the screen fade to black

>>28605428
Celebi might cry a bit after you leave from being rejected.
It probably just does whatever it does when you say yes, just without Celebi joining you.

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Great artwork of a great game. How I long for a sequel.

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>All this effort for one sequence that's repeated one other time

Was it autism?

>>28608670
I'd expect one to come out towards the end of gen 7 as Gates and Super came out near the end of their respective gens.

>>28609028
Hope so. Unless the entire handheld market crashes with no survivors after Nintendo abandons the 3DS. Then we're fucked beyond comprehension.

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>>28609113
>handheld market crashes
>fucked beyond comprehension
>mfw I read all this

it better don't crash

moemura is love moemura is life

>>28609113
What makes you think that'll ever happen?

>>28608838
If anything, I like the attention to detail. It's much nicer to look at than a single static portrait.

>PSMD .cia file doesn't work with 3DS To CIA Converter
FUCKING REE I JUST WANT TO PLAY PSMD ON CITRA GOD DAMMMIT

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>>28611844
>tfw i have GTI's file but I have no idea where it came from

>>28611844
>trying to convert a .cia to .3ds using a .3ds to .cia converter
what
Anyway have you looked into the programs to download them from Nintendo's servers? I think you can build it as .3ds directly.

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Finally, some decent levelup growths

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>>28612189
I have proof,6th option

>>28612908
Oh, nice. Still, it's weird to call it like that.
What's the problem with it, by the way?

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bampo

>>28613560
When I try to manually type the filename and hit enter, something happens in the console...and that's it.Jackshit happens.And no,I haven't mistyped it.I also tried the drag and drop method.

>The program can't start because MSVCP200.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the problem to fix the problem.
how the fuck do you reinstall a program that you didn't install in the first place? I just dragged the files from the compressed folder

>>28616216
That's just a generic error. The way it says it makes it sound like something else, but you just need to download MSVCP200.dll.

>>28616279
why exactly do I need it anyways? I don't remember actually having it, and it sounded like it ran fine without it

>>28616320
>why exactly do I need it anyways?
Because the program needs it to run, apparently. just google the file and dump it in the folder with the exe.

So what pokemon are good for the level 5 dungeons in SMD? I like Zapdos, but who else should I take?

>>28616433
I found nothing, only forums asking about the same thing with no solution
not a single way to download the file

>>28616511
Level 5 dungeons in SMD are easy for the most part, a lot of mons are usable in anything not named Sacred Ruins. The best is probably Hawlucha and still Drifblim, though.

>>28616533
either way, I got it to work without that specific file

>>28616533
From the name of the dll it might be from some "Microsoft Visual C plus" shit, but I'm not certain. You could try updating or installing one of those, and see if it works.

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>>28616684
thanks anyways
god, how long has it been, I can hardly remember what was going on

>>28616744
You were going on adventures and molesting pokemon.
And I vaguely remember something about splitting into two different pokemon because friendship or something, and then you murdering your evil clone.

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>>28616900
which one was the evil clone again?
well this part I remember at least

>>28616977
I dunno, I think it was a sylveon or something.

>>28617051
Wasn't Sylveon the good clone and Espeon the bad one? I'm not exactly sure of the lore either.

>>28617123
Nah, I totally remember the Sylveon being evil, and all of Espeon's friends turning against her.
The Sylveon was super evil, I'm sure of it. Espeon dindu nuffin

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>>28616977
ok, this music is pretty good
>>28617123
yeah, yeah, I think it's all coming back to me
wait... then why am I still here?

>>28617194
Because something something evil never truly disappearing from the world. It's negativity, I ain't gotta explain shit.

>>28617194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIo6ZnSEpus
time travel really sucks

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>>28617194
It's not me, I SWEAR

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>>28617567
wew, this brings back memories
those were good times weren't they?

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KISAMA

>>28617970
Some of Sky Peak's dungeons recycle Rescue Team music, right?

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>>28617970
oh....

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Pretty sure Grovyle's boss fight is the only one in the main story that still advances the plot if you die.
I doubt anyone lost to him though, he's pretty easy.

>>28618135
rip

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>>28618135
here, I also made this
>mfw

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>>28618135
and literally one petrify orb fucks them all up

>>28618196
Ok.

>>28618203
>I doubt anyone lost to him though, he's pretty easy.
I did

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>>28618341
I'm not sure what's going on, but I already hate it

>>28618840
do not bully the electrosheep

>>28618905
Took the initiative and make a new thread. Sorry if it was a little early.
>>28618905