Tbh, Gen 4 just pissed me off. Comprised mainly of pre-evos and

>>28503443
but porygon Z is like a top 10 pokemon for me

I cannot unsee Electrivire's nipple tentacles help

>>28503443
Most are also ulgy as sfuck.

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Idunno man, Gliscor is my bro

>>28503443
Mamoswine is my brother

>>28503477
OP here, yeah there are a few exceptions, but Tangrowth? Lickilicky? Mismagius? Just....just nah.

>Magnezone
>Tangrowth
>Electrevire
>Porygon-Z
>Togekiss
>Ambipom
>Yanmega
>Honchcrow
>Mismagius
>Gliscor
>Weavile
>Mamoswine
>Gallade
>Roserade
>Froslass

Gen 4 saved most of these lines.

Great
>Porygon-Z
>Gliscor
>Yanmega

Good
>Magnezone
>Tangrowth
>Electivire
>Togekiss
>Honchkrow
>Mismagius
>Weavile
>Mamoswine
>Roserade
>Froslass

Okay
>Gallade
>Probopass
>Dusknoir

Shit
>Magmortar
>Lickilicky
>Rhyperior
>Ambipom

>>28503443
Magnezone, Porygon-Z, Yanmega, Honchkrow, Mismagius, Gliscor, Weavile, Roserade, Mamoswine and Froslass are all great though.

>No pre-evos or post-evos added to existing mons from gen 5 onwards, besides obligatory Marketevee

Fuck. Gimme my calf that evolves into Tauros or Milktank, give me a shared Lunatone/Solrock/Minior pre-evo.

>>28503443
Oh boo fucking hoo. It's another STOP LIKING WHAT I DISLIKE blog post on /vp/. There are literal children that realize their opinion isn't objectively correct. What's your excuse, OP?

Love me some Weavile. Rhyperior made me wanna throw things. Rock Wrecker = shit

>>28503510
>nipple tentacles
>clearly coming out of its back

You're either retarded or as blind as a fucking bat.

>>28503589
OP here again. It's an opinion bruh. Turn the autism down a notch.

>>28503443
I only dislike ambipom and rhyperior. I would hate magmortar more if magmar wasn't disgusting already.

>>28503615
The tentacles have nipples

>>28503443
Most of them are good, only 6 of them are unviable.

>>28503548
Agreed

>>28503443
Only 6 of those are bad

What's the problem with magmortar? I fucking love him

I burned out totally on pokemon right after gen 3 when the gen 4 pokemon were released. The designs were so bad. I only got back into it years later when gen 6 was about to come out, and I played through gen 5

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Tbh, Gen >>28503443 just pissed me off. Comprised mainly of pre-memes and memes of past gens, most that I barely use competitively. I mean, LOOK AT THIS SHIT!!

>>28503443
Deal anon,

Prease folgive me fol noto pandeling to you excrusivery.

Sinceley,

Masuda-san

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>>28503536
>Doesn't like Tangrowth
>Doesn't like Mismagius
INTO THE TRASH YOU GO

>>28503443
Great
>Porygon-Z
>Yanmega

Good
>Electivire
>Honchkrow
>Gliscor
>Gallade
>Roserade
>Dusknoir

Ok
>Magnezone
>Magmortar
>Togekiss
>Mismagius
>Weavile
>Mamoswine
>Probopass
>Froslass

Bad
>Lickilicky
>Rhyperior
>Tangrowth
>Ambipom

>>28503443
Cross evos were absolutely necessary. Most of Johto's Pokemon looked horribly incomplete like Togetic and Piloswine.

A few were not necessary though. Like Rhyperior. Rhydon could have gotten a mega evolution.

>>28503685
Stop watching hentai.

i liked Gliscor and Weavile a lot.

I love most of them... yanmega, gliscor, electivire, honchkrow, togekiss.... I actually think they are awesome

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>>28503443
that's some shit taste if I ever saw any

But this was the fun part of the gen 4 pokedex

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one of the best aspects of gen 4 desu fampai

>>28504391
But cross-gen evos aren't new pokemon.
Electivire is the same pokemon as Electabuzz

>>28503536
>Mismagius
>Tangrowth
literally what's wrong with them

why does everyone hate Ambipom?

>>28504484
>But cross-gen evos aren't new pokemon.
Yes they are...they are.
>Electivire is the same pokemon as Electabuzz
No,they aren't the same pokemon they're diferent species,they're just in the same evolution line.

>>28504445
>could care less

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>>28503443
>tfw absolutely love dusknoir
>tfw fucking dusclops is actually better

>most of the gen 4 evos needed a mega to be relevant or are just downright ugly

>>28503443
>I barely use comepetitively
Now thas a personal autistic problem.

>>28503443
>you need a postgame item to evolve them

fuck sinnoh fetuses and their shit games

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>>28503536
fuck you man. lickylicky is amazing.

but seriously, most of these designs are such great evos for these mons' lines.

probably only thing i have a problem with is jew-pass.

>>28504529
I don't hate it, but its nose is weird and kinda ruins its design

>>28504529
Its just a bigger version of my aunties monkey

>>28503443
>Tangrowth
>Porygon-Z
>Yanmega
>Mismagius
>Gliscor
>Weavile
>Roserade

>not god tier

opinion discarded

>>28504605
ok but you forgot Ambipom

>>28503443
I must be in the minority because I love most of these. Porygon-Z, Togekiss, Mismagius, Gliscor, Weavile, Mamoswine, Gallade, Roserade, Dusknoir and Froslass are among my favorite Pokemon.

>>28503443
A lot of those pokemon are awesome. There's nothing wrong with giving new evolutions to old pokemon. Of course having new pokemon is fun but people still like old pokemon too so it's also fun having your old favorites get something new, whether it's a new evolution, a Mega Evolution, an Alolan form, an exclusive Z-move or whatever other mechanic they make up in the future.

>most that I barely use competitively
Being bad competitively doesn't mean its a bad addition to the games, that's retarded. Most new pokemon aren't competitively viable either.

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>>28503443
nahh most of these designs are really, really awesome and make these evo lines great.

>>28504640
i'd put ambipom in good tier along with magnezone, electivire, gallade, and froslass

i don't like the rest though

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>>28504587
Magmortar is good design and it's ruined by the pink coloring outta nowhere.

Honestly, most of these should've been alternate evos

A virus porygon z AND a porygon3
A less manmade looking magmortar AND a magmar that flows the flowing lava thing of the original
Gallade is already one
So is frosslass
Dusknoir as the antenna one AND a full mummy evolution for dusclops

Shit would be great

>>28503443
Why are there hardly any mega evos for Sinnoh's cross evos except Gallade? I mean Sinnoh has 4 regular mega evolutions. 27 regular Sinnoh lines and 20 cross evos without Leafeon and Glaceon. Shouldn't there be more megas?

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>>28504587

I just cannot bring myself to like it. I think it's the wi-fi pattern. I like how Lickitung does it much better. Overall, it feels like a step backwards.

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>>28504605
Roserade, Tangrowth, and Porygon-Z are downgrades from their previous evos - just like Lickylicky, Electivire, Rhyperior, Probopass, Dusknoir, and Gallade.

>>28503443
That's your issue and not the fact that roughly 2/3rds of the mons had either rounded/bulky body types or were straight up obese?

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>>28504554
My main gripe is that not only is dusclops better than dusknoir, it has the better shiny as well.

Yes that is a shiny dusknoir.

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>>28503443
Literally NO ONE gave a fuck about Misdreavus until Mismagius was created.

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Tangrowth is my absolute favorite Pokemon of all time, and will likely remain as such unless something truly spectacular happens, like it getting a variant form that manages to outdo the original. I can understand why folks might not like it, and I don't think it's perfect, but it will always be top-tier to me.

>>28504798
Probably because you can't catch it until Mt. Silver - fuck gen 2

>>28504739
>wanting irrelevant grass types to stay irrelevant
>not wanting eviolite porygon2

I agree that Gallade is a downgrade, but it is a split evolution anyways so I like that you can get a physical attacker if you get a bad nature for gardevoir

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>>28504795

Honestly, I feel like both of them are a step down from Duskull. They should have kept that cool "one eye with two eyeholes" aesthetic throughout.

I liked the bottom left character but wish he would have help some of his/her shroomish look while becoming a poison/fighting type. broom-something right?

>>28504860
It should've evolved into a mummy with some kind of hollow face with the eye going all around.

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>>28504814
hello, tangbro.

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>tfw cross gen evolution will never comeback
with alolan forms being the new hot thing now the chances for cross gen evos are very low, we might as well get sinnoh forms instead in gen 4 remakes

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>>28504893

>>28503443
Tbh, I love Roserade and Gliscor. Magmortar is a huge upgrade from Magmar. Mismagius, Yanmega, Electivire and Magnezone are all pretty neat. Everything else is decent, except like... Lickilicky. Idk what they were thinking with that one, but I also don't know what they were thinking with Lickitung either.
>>28504698
Thing is, a lot of them were made because the pre-evos were understatted as heck.

>>28504896
The problem with cross gen evolutions is that they will often not keep the pokemon original aesthethic and end up feeling more like a redesign or what if this pokemon was in this gen scenario.

Mainly due to the artist changes, style changes, philosophy changes, etc.
Cross gen evolutions should be side evolutions like gallade.

>>28504986
And a lot of them ended up like shit, like lil dusknoir where eviolite dusclops is better and even now there's a lot of shitmons with no evolution or improvement in the future.

>>28504892

Yeah, that would have been cool. Imagine Dusclops, only it's just an empty eye socket in the center and there are gaps in the bandages that reveal it's just hollow wrappings. And then the eye is just hanging deep inside, casting off an eerie glow that shines through the empty spaces.

>>28504896
Sinnoh forms make no sense because there's no reason they wouldn't have existed in the original gen4 games (Unlike ORAS' Mega Evo making sense to not be in the original RSE games). I think instead, just like ORAS was full of gen3 megas, gen4 remakes will be full of z-moves exclusive to gen4 mons.

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Rosie, Gliscor, Magnezone and Mamoswine are my favorites pokemons from gen 4. The only ones i truly dislike are Ambipom, Rhyperior and Lickilicky.

I agree that Rosie's bouquet should be more detailed, tho

>>28503443
>most that I barely use competitively
>Magnezone
>Lickylicky
>Rhyperior
>Togekiss
>Gliscor
>Weavile
>Mamoswine

get out of here casual fag.

>>28504988
I agree, while some pokemon seem like a natural progression to what they needed and would look like mainly mamoswine and weavile at this point cross gen evos being side evos is the only way that could be accepted at this point
>>28505074
>implying gamefreak would miss the chance to pander gen 4fags with exclusive sinnoh forms

but in all seriousness I really fucking hope that's the case, I also don't want to deal with things that weren't even hinted at in the original games and I dont want some kind of power creep with some uneccesary forms

>>28505251
Sinnoh forms would be pandering to gen1fags, not gen4fags

>>28505251
Mamoswine eyes are a bit dodgy honestly, really wouldn't imagine piloswine ending up like that in gen 2

>>28505269
oh yeah I forgot for a second that gamefreak will never stop to pander gen 1

the pandering will never end right?

>>28503548
I like the cannon arm bros. Rhyperior is great for dunking on fools that use BRAVE like you're Barkley in a first grade gym class, and Magmortar is just goofy enough to work for me.

>>28503443
But OP, your pic was the only good thing about gen 4.

Why don't we get more cross gen pre-evos and regular evos anymore? I always felt like those made previously meh or increasingly less loved Pokemon more relevant. It also added a bit of interconnectedness and discovery to things. I miss this (having just Sylveon last time doesn't count).

>>28505562
well after gen 4's massive dump of them was gen 5, which was intentionally a gen with no ties to others. after that was gen 6 which was too focused on megas to throw regular evos a bone. gen 7 now has alolan forms filling that niche again so idk

>>28503443
Zone, mamoswine, tang, togekiss, roserade, gliscor, rhyperior are good competitively

>>28504445
Portion z imo is god simply because it's the perfect progression of the evo line

the jothomons that got evolutions would still be considered wasteful filler without them
ambipom being the only one out of them that you could say is bad in design

Could they possibly be planning to give Porygon-Z it's own Z-Move? This makes a lot more sense than a Mega Evolution.

>>28503443
I like all of them except for Ambipom.

>>28503443
that's not even all of them

>>28503443
Only Mamoswine is good competitively and well designed.

>>28503443
All of them are amazing, sorry if your taste is too shit to appreciate them.
>but you can't even use them in-game!
Diamond/Pearl were absolute shit. Play Platinum instead.

>>28506000
Weavile...

>>28504103
>Rhydon could have gotten a mega evolution.
Fuck you.
I agree that things like Dusclops and Rhydon didn't really need to evolve, but they should just drop the whole mega shit and go pay attention to more old Pokemon with only two stages. Look at Arbok's or Ariados's stats for example.

Man Gen 4 was amazing. Sucks that there probably won't be anymore like it.

>>28506000
Gliscor....

>>28504988
>Gen IV remakes
>the original games added a ton of cross-gen evolutions
>so the remakes add even more
ANON
You just gave me hope in life

>>28503443
Don't talk about my bros that way.
If it's one thing Gen 4 got right is was all the new evos. More monsters need and deserve them.

>>28506189
Maybe Megas and probably some Johto Sinnoh Forms. Hopefully later Gens just take some tips from 4.

>>28506351
>Johto Sinnoh Forms
That would make no sense, as >>28505074 said. Alola is a region close fo Fuckyounistan, that's why they have ice Ninetales and such.
I also really wish for Megas to go back to their own universe but I doubt that will ever happen.

>>28503443
>shit tier
Electvire
Magmortar
Porygon z
Weavile
Honchkrow
Probopass
Galade
Dusknoir
Froslass
Lickilicky
Magnezone
Mismagius
Rhyperior

>ok tier
Togekiss
Tangrowth
Yanmega
Ambipom

>great tier
Gliscor
Mamoswine
Roserade