>Wild Sundoge used Accel Rock! >It's super effective!

>>28486003
Are you stupid or what

>>28486003
Ice.

>>28486003
I think it might be similar to flying press, dealing fighting/ground damage

>>28486003
fire????

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>>28486003
Dragon

>>28486003
It's clearly an Accel-type move. Retard.

>>28486010
Dragon Ascent turned out to be a flying type move. Just because it has the word "rock" in the name doesn't mean it is a rock type attack.

It's a Shadow move from XD and is super effective against all non shadow Pokemon

>>28486042

It's a Rock type Pokemon...using a move with rock in it's name...clearly it's going to be a Poison type attack...

Dragon Ascent - Flying type moved, used by a Dragon/FLYING type that FLIES around in the atmosphere...there's a reason why it's a Flying type move.

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>>28486003
>Accel Rock
>Rock

>>28486034
It's a rock that accelerates, not an accel that rocks

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>>28486034
Truly.

Exclusive, Physical, Rock-type priority move. Not bad. RIP Talonflame.

Vikavolt is weak to rock you fucking retard.

>>28486054
>XD
Get out

>>28486167
>Exclusive
Every fast Rock, Steel, and Ground type will get it

>>28486070
>Dragon ascent
>flying

>>28486199
That's only the the flying fossils though.

>>28486190
>Doesn't know about Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness
Get out

>>28486199
I can see Rampardos, Aerodactyl and Archeops get it in the next games.

Rock type priority move, meta is ruined

>>28486067
to be fair ascent means rising through the air

>>28486042
rayquaza is also a flying type like dragon ascent. unless you're going to argue that the wolf is going to be anything other than pure rock, you're literally being a retard about this.

>>28486067
Do we know if it's a pure Rock-type?
Watch as it's Rock/Normal and the move is Normal-type (Which would be pretty worthless, seeing how Quick Attack and Extremespeed exist)

>>28486213
>ascent
>flying
Well yes.
The "dragon" part of the name may be because it's used by a dragon. It's Rayquaza's signature move.

>>28486199
There are maybe 2 fast rock types. And any modification of the learnset is unlikely.
Plus they're pretty much all shit except Aerodactyl

>>28486229
Just non-steel bug types and flying types are ruined.
And just if doge is viable in OU.

A priority is useless if he has no coverage moves and the attack stat is lower then 110.

>>28486213

Because it's used by a Pokemon who's Dragon/Flying?

Honestly, that's kind of a shitty argument to use. We don't even know what its other type is, if it even has one. Why would it be anything other than Rock type?

>>28486252

Yeah, it means a Dragon ascending into the air so it makes sense that it's a flying type attack...

THIS BETTER NOT BE A PRIORITY ROCK TYPE MOVE OR ELSE IM GOING TO CASTRATE SOMEONE

MY MONOTYPE BUG TEAM HAD TO DEAL WITH FUCKING TALONFLAME FOR A WHOLE GEN, IM FUCKING DONE IF ROCKS CAN JUST BYPASS SPEED AS WELL

>>28486190
>Doesn't know XD
Be gone newfag

>>28486225
Yea just like how the kalos starter moves were distributed later. It seems to me like they always revamp movesets in the second pair of games from each gen. Only egg moves get added in the first games. XY was a bit special since they added fairy type and revamped breeding but still ORAS did the big changes.

>>28486384
FUCKING THISSSSS.

>>28486384
Didn't ya hear mate? They're removing Bug's Rock weakness.

>>28486219
>>28486388
Please tell me you people are baiting. You must be newfags if you don't know.

Doing that is an old meme, /vp/ has gone to shit.

>>28486451
The leaks brought many newfags who don't bother lurking.

>>28486190
XD like in "XD Gale of Darkness".

>>28486190
>get out of my mom's basement

>>28486451
>falling for the "he doesn't know XD gale of darkness" criticism meme
This board really HAS gone to shit.

>>28486225
>Rampardos
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fast

>>28486325
>There are maybe 2 fast rock types
Aerodactyl, Archeops, Terrakion, Kabutops (when swift swim is active), mega Diancie

>>28486342
>flying types are ruined
All the relevant ones don't give a shit.

>>28486073
>I don't understand sarcasm

>>28486703
It really has. A tripfag, who shouldn't be tripping in the first place, is defending newfags.

>>28486042
Name me ONE OTHER move with a type in its name, that is not of that type.

Pro tip: you can't.

Don't worry, I'll wait.

BTFO

Someone /thread me

>>28486431
Low quality bait

>>28486042
Dragon Ascent is Rayquaza's signature move and you do realize Rayquaza represents the sky?

The trio doesn't go "land, water, dragon."
The move typing makes sense within context.

>>28486847

/thread.

I got you, nigga.

>>28486199
Since you have an early copy of the game, mind leaking the Pokedex?

>>28486219
>>28486388
>>28486510
>>28486681

Hook, line, and sinker

>>28486847
Dragon Ascent

>>28486847
Razor Wind

>>28486073
Wow, go fetch your smartypants, because you clearly have too much aspergers to be among people today.

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>>28486190

>>28486225
From move tutors in the DP remakes coming in 2019

>>28486847
>find an exception to the rule
>"WELL NOW MAKE IT UNEXCEPTIONAL"

retard

Vikavolt is weak to fire and rock, so unless accel rock is fire...

>>28487048
One other move, you spacker.

>>28487073
Ah, yes, how could we forget about the Wind-type.

>>28487292
He's talking about Razor type you dip. Razor Wind is already Wind type.

>>28486284
If it's normal then it won't be supereffective against vikavolt. Simple logic.

>>28487073
wind type confirmed

>>28486868
Bug being weak to Rock never made much sense, just because you can crush one inch bugs with rocks it doesn't mean a two meters beetle should be weak to them. Bug exoskeleton is hard but elastic and doesn't really have an inherent weakness to rocks.

who is accel

>>28487596
I think it's because even the slightest hole in said exoskeleton is fatal, as they don't clot.
So a large hole, like from a rock, will kill a large bug too.

>>28487669
I'm volcel

>>28486003
>Accel Rock!
Rock.

>>28486042
Dragon Ascent isn't named in a specific "dragon type move" way in japanese.
Accel Rock has rock in the name in japanese.

>>28486828
>>28487097
>I don't know my /vp/ memes

>>28486003
I think it's bug cus the other day I saw this bomb ass pray mantis eating a moth wing an I named him Charles
so best bet is bug type cus those fuckers eat other no second thoughts

>>28486384
>Monotype Bug
>Got his ass kicked
>Somehow surprised?

>>28486847
Rock Climb

>>28486847
Rock Smash

>>28486003
Will this be the first time that a generation has an exclusive move that the other version doesn't?

>>28486847
Meteor Mash
Comet Punch

>>28486847
Fire Punch

>>28489426
>tfw no punch type

>>28489408
>>28489426
You guys are either dumb or illiterate which makes you retarded

>>28489265
>>28489332
(You)

>>28489359
Midday and night forms aren't version-exclusive though iirc.

>>28486067
Exactlty.
It's a big ass Dragon.
It's ascending to god knows where.
And its wrecking your shit

>>28489478
> New images of CoroCoro have come out showcasing more of Lugarugan. In it, it shows the Midday Form being obtained in Pokémon Sun and the Midnight Form being obtained in Pokémon Moon.

>>28489470
Thanks

>>28489501
You get midday form by evolving in the day, and moondog by evolving at night. This means both games can get it, but you're more likely to get the sun one if your game is usually sunny when you play, you faggot.

>>28486388
>>28486510
>>28486703
>>28486219
I thought summer was over

>>28489538
NO IT FUCKING DOES'T. IT SAYS IT RIGHT THERE.
ONE IS IN SUN
ONE IS IN MOON
YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKING ILLITERATE PIECE OF SHIT

>Day form gets amazing new move
>Night form gets Counter
Every time

>>28489610
You're a retard, buddy.
Keep believing/baiting whatever you want.

>>28486042

So you're autistic then. Thanks for clarifying.

>>28489611
They will give you the scoop next month.

>>28489538
>>28489656

>still believing in time-based evolution

Keep believing in that, moonfag. I hope you like getting emo dogs in the morning.

>>28489610
>>28489700
They won't do this, because it would be impossible to breed your own daydoggo in Moon, even if transferred from Sun. Which is unprecedented in the series. In Y, if you trade me any exclusive from X, I can start breeding it for myself.

>>28486451
>>28487005
>>28489544

You fell for my "not knowing that pretending to not about XD is a meme" meme trap card. Epic

>>28489758
Yes but rockruff isn't exclusive you piece of shit
The evolutions are
The only way for your theory to be right is if I traded you the sundog. But if you started breeding for a better one it would just evolve into a moondog on your copy

>>28486847
>Rock Smash
>Rock Climb
>Flying Press (technically)
>Psych Up
>PrecipICE Blades :^)

>>28489544
It's always summer here

>>28486342
>Non-steel bugs

Implying doggo doesn't learn Fire Fang

>>28489805
The evolutions aren't because they will never release a pokemon that a single player cannot breed on their own once they have the breeding base. They never have, and never will. It's for quality-of-life design reasons.

I bet you want TMs to break after one use again, too.

>>28489868
They will and they did. Get over it

>>28489868

>what is trade-evolution

What now, friend? The hell can you evolve a Haunter on your own?

>>28489868
They are exclusive evolutions

It's ok though because no more breeding. You have hyper training now

>>28489910
Eh, I guess you could send it to a buddy holding a rare candy. Plus I was getting Sun anyway. I still think day/night is far more likely. Or even sun stone/moon stone. Unless the scans actually say otherwise?

>>28490004
>what are egg moves

>>28489853
If it doesn't have Strong Jaw or Atk higher then 100, it won't be that impressive. For Bug/Steel types sure, but not everything else.

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>>28490030

They have two pages stating just that, yet here we are with those taking Serebin's words as gospel.

>>28490095
Don't read moonrunes, but I'll take your word for it. Thought it was just bait or shitposting you understand, senpai.

>>28490055
Almost 100% certain they'll get the same egg moves

>>28489868
>>28489910

This

You can't breed a Gengar, Alakazam, Huntail, etc without the help of a friend to trade with. Sun/Moon dog is the same, breed the thing and then trade with a friend to help you out. Provide the rare candy for them like >>28490030
Suggests

>>28490213
Yeah, I just mean breeding in general isn't obsolete.
Unless you inject

>>28489868
Just inject it :^)

>>28490217
kek I am both of those posts. You couldn't tell?

>>28490217
It definetly will be a choir, but there are ways to get over this like how you suggested. Or there's another option: get a physical copy, the other version off of E-shop and boot up Pokebank since you can transfer between games with it. At least that's what I'm gonna do.

>>28486384
PLEASE FUCK LET IT BE A PRIORITY ROCK TYPE MOVE ROCK TYPE HAS JUST BEEN SAVED

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>>28490213
They have to, since Rockruff is the one receiving the egg moves not the evolution

>>28489478
Um, do you not see ... THE FUCKING LOGOS?
Theyre clearly labeled "Pokemon Sun" in one, and Moon in the other.
Time based evolutions arent unique or secret-worthy. Version Exclusive is.

>>28489544
Summer never ends. It's winter where the newfags stop showing up

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>Stealth Rock
>Pointlessly nerfed by Fairy
>Bravest Bird
>Priority Rock

Bug type is suffering.

Ice type is also suffering.

>Finally get a fast Ice type
>Still gets its shit kicked in by priority Rock

>>28490647
The logos don't confirm exclusivity. If it's day/night evos then obviously it will be more common in one game than the other.

Of course, it could be BOTH: in Sun Rockruff only evolves during the day, and in Moon it only evolves at night.

>>28490891
but if its time-based,
one: Why talk about and not bring up say, Umbreon?
two: What if I play mostly in the evening, but have Moon?

Once again, youre horrifically retarded and need to stop breathing.

>>28489868
They're version exclusive forms, not different Pokemon. Deoxys did that four generations ago.

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>>28486003

I never understood why Stealth Rock was a thing

Like, the type of move it is is like a passive entry hazard right, but it's different to regular Spikes or Toxic Spikes because it runs on type effectiveness

So...why Rock of all types? Why is it THE ONLY TYPE to get that type of move? I mean don't get me wrong if every type had an equivalent move battles would be a fucking nightmare but still why only Rock? Why does Rock now get a priority move? Why do only Fairy and Flying get "-ilate" moves?

I JUST DON'T
UNDERSTAAAAAND

>>28491512
Because GF wanted something to get past flying types hazard immunity.
Ice wouldve hit Dragons too hard I guess

>>28491545
>Ice would have hit Dragons too hard
>Ice has been THE worst type since Gen 1
>Make a whole new (overpowered) type 3 gens later JUST to nerf Dragons
I...I-I...

What do they do all day at GF HQ?

>>28491648
Talk about Water, Rocks, and Dragons while jerking off.

And then Masuda comes in waving a wand and throwing fucking dust on everything screaming "PPIIIIIIIKKKKKUUUUSHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!" ("FAIRIES!")

>>28490683
This makes me pretty sad.

>priority rocks.

Well that could be the end of smogonbird, more so if priority block fish is any good.

>>28489853
Meh, Steel bugs are pretty sturdy. You need a good Attack stat for Fire Fang to OHKO.

I seriously hope this doggo has Lucario-like stats, and not Raticate-like stats.

>>28491809
>Raticate-like stats
God please no.

But I guess it really depends on how early you can catch it.

>>28486384
>bug monotype
>not using armaldo
faggot

>>28491880
>>28491880
Still weak to rock

>>28491809
Should I counter your post with your own post?
252 Atk Raticate Fire Fang vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 312-368 (90.9 - 107.2%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

Maybe it will have low distribution.

>>28491933
>>28491809
252 Atk Lucario Fire Punch vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 292-348 (85.1 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

My bad I didnt notice that Raticate was already assumed to be poisoned. (Guts boosted)

>>28491933
Uhm... poisoned Raticate? It should have done like 30% less damage.

>>28486190
If I had a nickel for everytime a newfag like you tried this meme on Gale of Darkness, I would have probably have at least a single dollar.

>>28486847
Aqua Jet

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>>28491933
>Check if Raticate even learns Fire Fang
>It doesn't
>But it learns Flame Wheel for some goddamn reason

what

>>28492133
... ?
Is Jet the name of a type in another language? Or did you not read

>>28491988
Yeah, I noticed that damage was way too high.
And as you can see even Lucario with Fire Punch can't OHKO Scizor, so doggo needs Strong Jaw + Fire Fang or seriously anything that can boost its Attack to something higher then 110.

>>28492150
You were supposed to follow up with a joke about jet fuels and Steel types, anon. Try to keep up.

>>28486020
That wouldn't effect Vikavolt. And even if it did, it wouldn't be super effective.

>>28492150
Aqua = Water dude.
Plus a rock is also an object, not just a type. It's like Mach PUNCH.
Fighting types use punches, Rock types use rocks.

>>28486847
Rock Smash
Rock Climb

>>28492401
Out fucking skilled.

>>28486167
Gen 7. Shitting on the meta game, one pokemon at a time.

Isn't Yosei the word that Japs use for fairy?

>>28492530
so

what's gonna dick over Landorus?

>>28486003
how do you know vika has levitate?

>>28492623
Hopefully Wishiwashi with its special attacks

>>28492623
Ice-Type Bravest Birb counterpart?

>>28492592
Fucking goddamn mobile posting, I meant to reply to >>28491702

>>28492683
>set up hail
>start shitting Priority blizzards and Freeze Dries everywhere

>>28486762
>>28492336
>that is not of that type
So youre saying, Aqua Jet has a type in its name but is not the typing its name suggests.
In other words, that Aqua Jet is not a Water-type move?

>>28492640
>Ability Levitate

It has to.

>>28492592
>>28492710
Its actually literally "Fairy Type" but engrish is funnier than "Yosei", and Pixie is way more mangled Engrish than Fairy.

>>28492530
>>28492530
>>28486167
>>28486167
Not to mention Bruxish might have good tanky stats and hopefully Recover, since it IS Psychic.
>inb4 tflame gets Wild charge by breeding somehow

>>28492830
What about an ability that gives priority to all moves during a sandstorm?

>>28492843
I'm saying the opposite. It is a Water Type move, as AccelRock is a Rock move.

>>28492884
no it doesn't. Dustox is a good example of this.

>>28487857
Post yfw Arcanine and Lucario get Accel Rock through breeding.

>>28492909
Then why did you even give the retard a reply?

>>28492902
It's called Sand Rush, anon

>>28491933
you were complaining about talonflame, armaldo solves that problem, use scizor/heracross to kill the doggo

>>28492939
You actually made me go crop this?

Here's a link to save me from making ANOTHER reply.

>inb4 hidden
Its not Bronzong so no

>>28492939
Its ability is literally listed as just levitate

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>>28492999
Goddammit wasted trips.

>>28492982
Not the guy complaining about Talonflame and even if I was, he was talking about how Tflame is already an issue on top of now having priority rock.
Armaldo gets buttfucked by AccelRock anyway. And its also a poor check to Talonflame because it lacks any strong rock moves to hit back.

Wouldn't physical Zoroark benefit from Accel Rock?

>>28490949
>Why talk about and not bring up say, Umbreon?
Talk about what? Anyway, why would they bring up Umbreon? Just because it happens to evolve in the same way, doesn't really make it relevant.

>What if I play mostly in the evening, but have Moon?
Then you'll get the day time evolution. Is it really hard to understand that /most/ people (especially kids) will play during the day? So most people would naturally get the one that corresponds to their version.

>Once again
That was my first post in the thread.

>youre horrifically retarded and need to stop breathing
Because I pointed out that it's not confirmed either way? Learn some fucking logic dude.