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>>28462826
The Abra and Growlithe stuff haven't been deconfirmed yet though. Nothing has actually deconfirmed them.
And Rattata being Dark/Normal doesn't mean he got it wrong.

>>28462826
ASH's HATTTAAAAAARGHghghhhh!

>>28462898
All the pokemon in the website are confirmed to not having an alolan form

Mallow being more focused on in the anime poster than the other captains helps the final evos leak.
>INB4 "Generic Hawaiian girl" and "but the hat is different kinda!". These are stupid fucking arguments and you know it. Jfc.

Considering everything the "real leaks" has gotten wrong, it should be stricken off too

>>28462826
I think it's important to note the 2nd leaks don't mention multiple forms.

4th is on a roll

Well putside of Riddler and putting Rockroff's evos on the "Got right" part of the second leak, nothing much.

So when will this be updated ?

>>28462826
Thanks OP, you're a straight scholar.

>>28462915
But they're not actually confirmed.

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Anyone got a screencap of denialfags?

>concept art leak
>real

Every time

>>28462826
Regular alakazam in trailer shouldn't be proof there is no Alolan form, though.

>"Split Evos" leak is busted but the breedable multitype cat is called back to by the "Real leaks" leak
>"Real leaks" leak looks shaky anyway but it did get a lot strangely right
what does it all meeaan

>>28462898
Arcanine has been officially disconfirmed not only with the website update and magazine listings but several old trailers and screens from before the site update. If that is anything to go by, Abra line has been disconfirmed as well.

Dark/Normal is not the same thing as monotype Dark, just like how a vanilla and chocolate ice cream is not a vanilla ice cream. It was already split up into two separate bulletpoints (species and typings) and one was listed as "right", which is generous enough in my opinion.

>>28462988
The Real Leaks leaker obviously got his info second hand from a real leak.

>>28462988
Real leaks simply piggybacked the cat and "new forms" from the split evos leak.

>>28462969
One is wrong so they all could be still

execpt the 4th that's dead on 2 months later

>>28462924
There's still room for deniability with Real Leaks, since everything that's been confirmed wrong so far is in the (5) post. There's always the possibility that he didn't even make that post.

Why not just remove the fake shit altogether from the image?
Even allowing retards that post leaks to have a place among these is embarasing

>>28462988
If you want to be optimistic, he is piggybacking off of old leaks and theorycrafting but has included new, credible information.

If not, it's because he made it all up and was just really clever about making his guesses.

>>28462924
Note that all of the incorrect details were in that one Alola form post

>>28463065
The image was made in the first place because people kept claiming that shit from the other two leaks came from the Chinese leak. This makes it clear what came from where.

>>28462998
Where does it say so on the website that those Pokemon will NOT get Alola forms?
And trailers have a disclaimer that footage may not be final, or something to that effect

>>28462826
Thanks OP

>people still think that old pokemon being in deconfirms regional variance

Lel. Normal Growlithe can be found on one island while Alolan Growlithe can be found on another.

You forgot to add that "time works differently", to things Real Leak got right, anon-kun.

>>28463082
New forms for abra line was mentioned in the second post. It's the only reason I decided to number the posts because I thought it would be overlooked otherwise.

>>28463074
I like the 4th leak, but the Chinese leak still seems to vauge to be real. While not predicting a second form

>>28462924
The leaker definitely is an insider. Knowing about Oricorio and the English names definitely prove that. He just made a lot of shit up so he won't get busted. It's not as credible but things can turn out they way he says.

Real leaks got time working differently correct. Put that on the list. For now we should debunk the Alolan forms post as a copycat as it has gotten two things half right and several things wrong

>>28462988
I think there's a few possible explanations:
-The comment claiming to be OP in the split evos leak was an actual leaker and not the OP
-Real leaks is real but put a few bullshit points here and there (taking inspiration from real leaks because it seemed popular) to throw people off or seemingly decrease its validity to avoid being caught
-Real leaks is a fake and they just took a bunch of points from previous leaks (including ones that turned out to be fake like real leaks) as well as a few lucky contextual guesses like the oricorio thing to make it look more real, as though it tied in with other leaks

Is it time to add the Riddler leak, or is there a reason why it's not so simple to add?

>>28462826
Wasn't there a leak that said something like this would happen with rockruffs evos?

I guess everyone else forgot about it? I can't remember what else was in it, something about the starters and that's as much as I can get off the top of my head.

>>28463152
What do you mean contextual guesses leading to oricorio? That came out of nowhere. There were no hints leading anyone to believe there would be island based Darwinian finches.

>>28462988
I think it's the same guy desu.

I have to commend him for getting some stuff right though, because regional variants isn't easy to guess.

>>28463105
Excactly, the poster also says that transferring from vc is the only way to get new forms of some Pokemon, so while normal arcanine may appear in alola, water arcanine would come from vc.

>>28463196
Real leaks guy got too many cold guesses right to be fake. Oricorio, bewear, mimikyu, time working differently, Alolan forms

>>28462988
I'm still holding out that this is referring to Type: Null and "cat" is just a strange way to describe it. Next Corocoro is supposed to reveal some new information about Type: Null's "true power", so it's still possible.

>>28463255
Honestly, it wouldn't be the first time someone got many lucky guesses. Who else remember the Gematsu leak from Smash Bros?

>>28463192
I'll admit that I was reaching when I made that point - maybe they thought darwin studied hawaiian birds and not finches from the galapagos islands, but... yeah, that's a stretch. They would have had to get super lucky to guess that.

>>28463095
>Where does it say so on the website that those Pokemon will NOT get Alola forms?
The entries for Alola form Pokemon have 発見されていた written next to them, which is in past tense and means "could be discovered".
The entries for the regular, non-Alolan Pokemon are described using 発見されている, which is in present tense and means "can be discovered".

Note the difference between いる and いた.

>>28463154
He abandoned his thread for some reason and his lists only make sense sometimes when he updates the info.

For now we just have to use what he left us to see if what he posts is real.

>>28463154
As right as he is all his riddles are convoluted and would drag down this compact guide to anonymous info dumps.

>>28463310
But where does it say "These Pokemon won't get Alola forms"?

>>28462826
real leaks with time working differently should be added to things it got right

>>28462926
4 seems like lucky guesses

"More than one evo for Rockruff" could have been a 3 stage mon, or a version specific mon, or a day/night mon

If he had the info he would have said something like "It splits depending on"

Actually looking at it it's all pretty vague or half true at best, The bird doesn't mention types, the types he has given are wrong

>>28463192
Note that he doesn't describe Oricorio in very great detail, he says that there is a bird with an appearance that varies by island and mentions Darwin, which makes it a lot easier to backtrace to Darwin's Finches.

Had he said they were dancing birds or listed off the types it would be a much more narrow guess, but "think Darwin" is broad enough that believing it's a lucky guess is reasonable.

>>28463333
The same place where it says megas are dead

>>28463293
The Gematsu leaker could have had real info but had a thin connection to the development team so he hit on things that were mused over for a bit like Chrom and Rhythm Heaven. Note that Rhythm Heaven characters were in Smash Run.

>>28463333
When there is a lot of evidence pointing towards something being confirmed, it is essentially confirmed for the sake of convenience.

Gyms have not been "officially" deconfirmed, but everything points towards them being gone.
Alolan [Kanto pokemon listed on bottom of JP website] has not been "officially" deconfirmed, but everything points towards that being the case.
Generic Hawaiian girl has not been "officially" confirmed as Mallow, but everything points towards it being her.

>>28463128
>>28463358
Good catch, give me a sec.

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from the riddler
we can safely assume, that arcanine and abra line wont get an alolan form
I know it's hardly any foolproof evidence but still

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>>28463504
Fixed to include the 12h time shift.

I think we can all agree that the chinese leak is still the most credible of the bunch, since it has yet to get something seriously wrong.

>>28463504
Time doesn't work differently, It's just set at different times

The days and nights are the same length

http://archive.is/Y3X1v
Αdd this?

>>28463619
I know but let's give realleakfags some hope to cling on to, if I put it under kinda right people would complain about it being misrepresented or something.

>>28463619
"Time works differently" is a very plausible way to describe that mechanic.

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Don't ignore me fuck
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27701800/

>>28463620
>>28463766
no

Aug 11 is far before UBs were announced

>>28463807
Are you retarded?

>>28463583
might want to add that the (5) screencap in the Real leaks is under suspicion as being the same person.

>>28463263
Maybe... You're right!
>Type: Null means something without a specific type
>It's normal, like the "CAT pokemon " leak
>It changes type by breeding and it makes sense about its multy-genetic nature
Gg

>>28463882
you are right

>>28463871
no
>>28463882
I think that if people want to think that, they should be able to make that conclusion on their own.

>>28463952
Type: Null is genderless.

>>28463766
WHAT?! Really?!

>>28464037
Well, unless Type: Null's strength is that it can become a male or a female, that theory seems rekt as fuck.

>>28464037
Ditto is a genderless Pokemon that can breed with gendered Pokemon. If Type: Null has a breeding gimmick, it's not unreasonable to think that it works similarly.

>>28464119
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27701800/

Different archive confirms it was actually there, not added later. This is legit.

No idea how to feel about box legendary shared prevos though. How are you even supposed to get that? Don't tell me they breed.

>>28462826
You missed the Antonio Refresco leak

>>28463255
Do you suppose he was looking at an earlier build and that pokemon is doing a lot of this flying by the seat of their pants, releasin leaks then watching reactions to see how to adjust things?

So at the time, what he leaked was the plan, but then they changed things based on how people reacted?

Would explain why a grass owl was hoax leaked as a starter before Rowlett was shown, and how mallow was correctly "guessed" in the luchalitten leak, in addition to why a guy who got so much right also got a bunch of weird details wrong.

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>>28463583
Fixed to include the Ash detail. (MUH HAAAAAAAAAAAAT)

>>28463583

Just axe the fake leaker already. It's clear he was just ripping off the Chinese leaks and got lucky by adding Delta Species speculation. The Rattata thing is understandable, but only a retard would mistake Ice for Fire, not to mention Alakazam, Arcanine, and Butterfree are all out.

>>28464415
>hat and shirt
Nice autism. clothing art is irrelevant, they aren't gonna draw it in properly for some tiny little sketch.

I know you're just some underaged redditor that doesn't even know how these things work, but please atleast educate yourself.
or kill yourself, please?

>>28464415
No, anime appearances is irrelevant to a game leak, just like how Mallow being implied to be Ash's partner doesn't strengthen the leak.

>>28462826
You missed the one about time working differently in the Real Leaks leak being confirmed

>>28462915
I'm in the group of people who don't believe Alolan Abra/Arcanine are real, but you can't go around saying they're "deconfirmed" because technically, they're not.

Less likely to be real, and lack of credibility, yes. But not confirmed as of yet! Neither confirmed or deconfirmed.

>>28464500
>>28464527
"Debate rages as to how much weight this detail carries"

I'm on the "don't give a shit" side myself, but half the board is arguing that it matters, so I put it on the sheet.

>>28464527
It's not a game leak, it's an anime leak. Why the effing fuck would Ash be in the leak if it were a game leak?

>>28464563
It's still completely irrelevant in this context.

>>28462826
Can we all just agree that the Yungoose evolution is infact, fat and hairy? Theres no point in saying it loses credibility because its obviously fatter and hairier than its pre-evolution.

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>>28464500
>>28464527
I'm not sure if you're really just upset that such a small detail is that anally devastating to you, or if you believe that this will change the outcome of the potential leak and make it fake.

For all we know, some talented artist from the inside drew up these sketches and included Mallow to throw us all for a loop. You can't deny that as a possibility, seeing as how all these leakers appear to be fucking everywhere with real sources from time to time.

>>28464602
There are parts of it that are relevant for the games (such as Pokemon designs and major characters) and parts of it that are completely irrelevant (such as Ash) UNLESS Ash is somehow confirmed to be in the games.
This should not be a difficult concept for you to grasp.

>>28464223
This is legit. The UC story is right but I cannot imagine something about a Solgaleo-Lunala preevolution

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>>28464415
further improved .

>>28464665
It doesn't matter what parts are relevant for the games or not when deciding if a leak is real or not.

The very existence of a picture of Ash in the leak pins it to the animators working on the anime instead of the team working on the game, because Ash wouldn't be anywhere in concept art for the games. In that context, a detail from the anime being off WOULD hurt credibility.

>>28464223
Add it. 4 leaks!

>>28464817
>The very existence of a picture of Ash in the leak pins it to the animators working on the anime instead of the team working on the game
I'm not saying that I don't agree with you, but aside from "common sense" you have no basis for this. It being anime art will not be a logically valid conclusion until there is something that explicitly confirms that this is the case.

>>28462826
The rattata/raticate being dark/normal instead of just dark should go into the kinda right section i think.

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>>28464763
>denials still in denial so hard
pathetic

>>28464223

>>27701800

>>28465027
newboi

>>28465043
I tried.
Least post a screencap. Legendary sharing a pre-evo intrigues me.

What bugs me the most is that if "2-stage cat normal/anything" is real, split evos leak had info, but instead of posting it, posted shit.

One moment. The "real leaks" leaks say that "transferring through bank will be the only way to get SOME forms of old Pokemon". Some. What if Alolan Abra, Arcanine etc exist along the original ones? I don't remember anyone pointing at this before.

>>28462923
Has nothing to do with the games. Take your wars and obsession with your enemies elsewhere.

>>28465228
The website literally says "you can find THIS [picture of regular Arcanine] Arcanine in Sun/Moon".

>>28465228
riddler also posted this >>28463581
while it doesnt confirm which lines will get alolan forms, it definitely tells us which pokemon lines aren't getting alolan forms

>>28464763
>Colored hair
>In a low detail no color sketch
Lmao

>>28465548
Idk that's just one leak more. How does it explain that anyway? Or when/where was that posted? This is the first time I see it.

>>28465872
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3773780366?pn=16
the guy with the colress avatar
I dont understand chinese though

>>28465938
>>28465872
what he posted to >>28463581
排除了一些家族,假如只有初代宝可梦有地区形态,剩下这些里面的哪家可能性比较高呢,感觉应该优先考虑没被圈过(奶过)的家族。。。

>>28462826
You didn't mention that Mallow was confirmed as one of Ash's companions today.

>>28465938
Eeehmmm... That's from May and June 2015 and they really don't say anything about it.......

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>>28465915
>I care so little about these leaks I will post this image in every leak thread, that will prove how little I care!

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>>28466110
>http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3773780366?pn=16
scroll down

So why aren't you adding the Riddler to this picture?

>>28466343
Mostly laziness + the fact it needs to be brought up in a different format considering the hints are intentionally vague. I'll get around to it and summarize them all for the next big update unless someone beats me to it (please do).

I think riddler and this leak should be added.
https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27830428/

it got the rockruff day/night thing right. the only thing wrong is the day/night thing so far but not really because the times could still be longer, even after the shift. it'd ensure one game would have a lot more day form pokemon and the other would have a lot more night form pokemon

>>28466485
you're linking the thread the OP did at the beginning

>>28466514
no it's different. thats the "clearing things up" leak.

called the rockruff split.

>>28463766
>>28464223
>>28464758
Someone claiming to be someone else that also predicted ultra beasts and it being lillie's mother mentioned the pre-evo here >>28311647

Thinking about it though their comment and thread could have just been piggy backing off this much earlier post

>>28466485
Everyone foresaw the Rockruff thing. Also, they give Aether Paradise a different name, so FAKE

>>28464817
not really it's Luchalitten's concept art not Ash's. Mallow is missing frills on her pants and stuff but it's still obviously her

>>28462826
You should add http://archived.moe/vp/thread/27701800/#27702506 to the list.

>>28462826
The Chinese leak got the logo crystals wrong, they're Z-crystals

>>28468143
The generic crystals just allow Z-moves, but we know there are specific crystals for certain pokemon, and other (admittedly less credible) leakers have claimed that some of the Z-moves function like Dragon Ascent, where you transform as part of the attack.

Its definitely not from a credible source, but it DOES fit with information we already have enough to be somewhat possible. Moves that change a pokemons form aren't anything new. So crystals that give pokemon new moves doesn't exclude giving them new forms.