Why are people treating not needing HM's like a new thing?

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Not needing them and having alternatives to them are two different things, you still needed fly if you WANTED to fly before, you still needed surf if you WANTED to surf before.

>>28432188
>It's like you people already forgot that they were optional in gen 5

It's literally impossible to progress through the game without Cut.

>>28432228
Itt: things that aren't true

You still needed them, they just weren't essential to beating the game.
and honestly HM roadblocks are superior to "lmao we're dancing for no reason XDDD"

>>28432262
That's about as valid as saying you're too thirsty

>>28432259
Dream Garden, you idiot. You need cut to enter.

>>28432285
At least the thirsty thing was something the player needed to actively solve themselves instead of the guard magically not being thirsty after a certain point.

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>>28432188
>Absolutely needing to have a Water-type on your team to support Surf

Fuck off. Some of us like the idea not having to tailor our in-game teams to supporting HMs.

>>28432478
This.

>>28432478
This, I dislike having to make room for something that can use Fly (ORAS excluded).

>>28432228
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