Whoever translated sprites to 3d models had no aesthetic taste

Thats the color it was in the anime

>>28429162
what the fuck?

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>>28429140
>it's an another 3D was a mistake tread

>>28429187
The anime isn't canon the artwork is

>>28429187
He's refering to the pose

>>28429140
How does the 3d model lose so much dimension and depth?? Not every model looks like a downgrade in 3d but some do especially the one in op's pic

>>28429140
>THAT BACK FIN
Shit dude, they fucked that model.

Just about every pokemon would look better in gen 5, even gen 6-7

The only problem is the textures, because they look good in Go and those are the same models.

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How do you go from this

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TO THIS?

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>>28429216
The artwork is not cannon.

The in game spirtes/models were, those colors don't work in game and they only used them on Kalos because it's a fucking ugly washed out colors region.

Now they look like ass

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>>28429585
Don't forget that other companies had better models too.

There's no excuse.

>>28429554
>>28429585
gen 6 salamence looks way better

>>28429650
It looks fat as fuck

>>28429554
>>28429585
its pretty depressing that the awful tweened sprites are more life like than the brand shiny new models and animations they made

>>28429585
It's the flying/gliding models. Also what the fuck did they do to its cry?

What the fuck happened to his back fin

>>28429650
Agreed

>>28429650
>>28429677
This. Same with Archeops

Animation is great though

>>28429633
Man I really miss grounded Salamence. I know the whole point of its evolution line is that it accomplishes its dream of flying, but still.

>>28429633
Literally the same.

>>28429140
You're so right, OP, Pokémon is TOTALLY ruined now, i see the end coming, those shit newgens

>>28429758
Hoi missed the point numb nuts. Op is saying they ruined the models not pokemon as a whole dip shit

>Colour palette washed out as fuck
>Animations are dull as fuck
They could have literally just copied the N64/ Gamecube/ Wii animations and it would be an improvement over what we have now.

I hate how the all the colors look so washed out.

>>28429633
Genius Sonority models looked better in general. i wish they made a pokemon rpg again.

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>designed to be a totem pole
>entire design is dependent on it standing upright on the ground
>NAH FUCK IT, ITS FLYING, BTW CAN'T BE FUCKED TO ANIMATE IT SO ITS JUST GONNA FLOAT, ITS PSYCHIC RIGHT?
im still mad
nice to know XY was such a disaster that its shitty gimmicks will live on making the games worse for generations to come

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>>28429140
You think that's fucking bad?

>>28429798
I know, my opinion is not about op's opinion

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>>28429712
Salamance animation? Because it's literally just flying uninterested.
Even the colloseum/gale model looks a million times better.

>>28429806
There's no excuse either, look at the go models.
They just used those washed out colors to fit kalos horrible pallete, you can see that the alola mons look a million times better.

>>28429830
>>NAH FUCK IT, ITS FLYING, BTW CAN'T BE FUCKED TO ANIMATE IT

You really, really, in your heart of hearts, think that it was "laziness" and not a conscious choice?

>>28429187
Anime garbage should stay in the anime and stop crossing over to the games.

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>>28429806
yeah man the models were so great!

ugh

>>28429860
It was a very bad conscious design choice that they made with far too many flying types. Compare the stadium models and animations of flying pokemon to the dogshit we got in gen 6.

I mean come the fuck on at least have the wings flapping.

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>>28429870
I said animations, not models.

>>28429838
holy shit thats just..sad

>>28429889
They had some Pokémon flap their wings and others gliding. Xatu and Salamence would look even worse flapping their wings. I don't know why you people hate the concept of gliding so much, you know real birds to that, right?

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Let's not forget the updated cries.

F

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Posting one of the worst ones

>dynamic witch fox that uses a wand for attacks
>make the model a stiff stick for some reason and then HIDE the wand for 90% of it's animations.

>>28429838
>fat as fuck
>legs aren't tucked up to body and just dangle there
>wings look comically small now compared to new fat head and body
>tail flailing fucking everywhere
>remove flying gem so it loses the only reason to run it

they might as well just removed it from the game with how much they shat all over it

>>28429844
Apparently GO uses the same textures as XYORAS, but different shaders, which makes them look much better..

>>28429838
>5th gen
Looks wild with its claws out after jumping towards its prey, using its wings to control where it falls. Going to grip on to its prey using its huge feet and talons, and with its weight to keep it pinned to the groind, while it rips its prey alive with his sharp fangs

>6th gen
Fat bird being retarded

>>28429162
Fukken saved

>>28429941
>newfags are actually defending the washed out colours of the pokemon, madly animated models, low framerates, low resolution, the horribly updated cries and mega evolutions
why live

>>28429140

>Comparing 2D sprites to 3D models

/vp/ being retarded as usual.

>>28429941
F gen 1

>>28430003
BUT MUH SOOGIEMOREY ARTWORK!

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>>28429140
Empoleon translated kinda well.

Though I'm not gonna lie, Battle Revolution had the better model. Something about it seemed wider

>>28430003

The colors are not washed out, you newfag

>>28429140
HAHAHA there's nothing more hilarious in this board than the faggots who bitch about the 3d models.

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>>28429941
>mfw hearing Charizard's for the first time

The only updated cry I like.

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>>28429585

>>28429838

Archeops is supposed to look awkward, newfag

>>28429972
>>fat as fuck
>>wings look comically small
>>tail flailing fucking everywhere
If you weren't such a biased fuck you'd know the same applies to the sprite.

>>28429140
>models
>models
>models
>models
>models
>it's never animation/positioning when it actually is exactly that
When will this meme end
when will we see /vp/ get competent with easy to understand terminology

>>28429140
It looks the same but in actual 3d. What is your problem?

>shit animations just for flying battles
>ruin all the cries just so they can make dumb noises in amie

XY truly were a mistake

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>>28430003
Well you were defending the saturated colors of the Pokemon, badly animated sprites, low framerates, low resolution, shitty cries and whatever.

>>28430141

>ruin all the cries

you mean make them not sound like garbled 8bit noises?

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>>28429891
>I want gen 4 battle speed

>>28430003
>calling them newfags sure will underline my argument

Because when you are an oldfag its justifiable to shitpost.

>>28429140
.... you have no clue how 3D models work.

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>>28430168
You can have good animations without having them be long, you know.

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>>28430157
>MUH SOOGIEMOREY ARTWORK!

>>28430164
I don't really care but they sound like they were compressed a shit ton now.

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>>28429554
to this?

>>28430255

Official artwork is more canon than what's in-game.

>>28429941
Gengar is literally the only one that bugs me. I prefer the pre gen 6 one.

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>>28430157
>>28430289
Sure it's more up to Sugi's artwork, but it just feels flat in the game. Even the anime doesn't have Sugi colors, because he's all pastel and shit and the anime is not that.
but then again, it's something that's fixable with a simple ROM hack so

>>28430062
It pisses me off how his battle model is so stupid compared to his model everywhere else. In Amie he looks badass, when attacking he looks badass, but just sitting there in midair he looks like an overweight, disabled lizard.

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>>28430037
it's because the XY model is just taller, everything is out of proportion
the legs being a little longer is alright, kind of hurts the penguin look but it's not a dealbreaker
the kicker is the fucking tiny collar, making the bib thing not come all the way up, and making that crotch spike smaller
at least it looks suitably disgusted now

>>28430036
>>28430255
nice meme there friendo let me give you a leddit upboat

>>28430157
Sceptile does actually look pretty nice in Gen VI. I'll happily admit that.

>>28430164
Gen III-V Cradily: Ancient crinod
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYiRmS6b9zc
Gen VI Cradily: GRUHBUGUH
https://youtu.be/UfapndIYx3U?t=1m18s

Gen IV-V Drifblim: Jolly ghost balloon pushing around air to travel. Bouncy feeling to it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8RZZ-BpgoM
Gen VI Drifblim: We want the dubstep audience.
https://youtu.be/vEQuVkCBpIg?t=46s

>>28430068
Then why did it not look awkward in the fucking gen that introduced it, newfag?

Why the FUCK would they change gen 4 cries?

>>28430164
We're talking gens 3 to 5 here.
1 and 2 are still the same, but with some awful filter over them. Same filter as the others.
>>28430489
A lot of them got more out of their personality, like Yanmega.
Some just sound more muffled like the rest of the ones deemed awful.
In my view, the clearer and the more distinctive the sound, the better as it makes things not only recognizable, but gives more personality to each.

>>28430542
I don't see why the had to update any cry but gen 1/2 cries

>>28429140
sorry to say this op, but i really think you're the one without """taste"""

empoleon looks so much better and actually looks like a penguin in the 3d model than the chubby ass sprites

>>28430562
I don't either, but as said some got the better end Yanmega while some got the worst end Grovyle of the stick

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>>28430255
MUH SPRITES

>>28430455
ALright, let's make all of the Gen 1 pokes look as awkward as they did in the red and green sprites

>>28430455
Except it did.
>tiny wings flying that fast
>hiding that fat behind the legs, when the backsprite reveals it

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>Take a Pokemon that its whole gimmick is that it has sand coming out of it and has a big mouth
>Remove the sand
>Close the mouth
>Make it stand up
>And then make it look as retarded as possible
What the fuck Gamefreak

>>28430619
>there may be color variations by region

>>28430668

The DP and Platinum sprites have different colors despite being the same region you retard

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>>28430664
Literally the one downside of platinum is that it has its mouth closed, it's such a gay thing to do.
female Hippowdon looks way better than the male one

>>28430742
This is just color inconsistency.

>>28429585
>these fucking plastic wings

>>28429211
Surely it was not a mistake.

>>28430275
IT'S

>>28429140
>shitty ugly garish pokemon looks shitty ugly and garish in 3d

stop the fucking presses OP

I swear people who cry about 3D models being different than sprites have no idea what angles and perspective are.

>>28430619
>Gilgar was three different colors in one generation of games

holy shit what were they thinking

HGSS colors a best

>>28430964
They have no idea what the difference between a MODEL, its ANIMATIONS and POSING is as well as what the fuck a TEXTURE is.

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>>28430335
If you're going to try recoloring the textures, be careful not to go too far in the other direction. The gen 5 colors don't always work well when applied to the models.

The beak and the black bit atop the head ruined Empoleon for me. Before I noticed those, the beak just looked like a fucking cool crown inexplicably starting lower. Now it looks a lot less emperor-y and a lot more penguin-y.

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>>28431021
I know that much. The middle obviously looks best here.
>5.5
laugh

>>28431021
Middle is literally perfect
Except maybe for charizard, and that only happens because of the background colors.

>>28431015
True. All I know is models look like shit compared to what we've had before. I'm sure there are plenty of technical reasons why they look like shit but why not keep making sprites then?

>>28431116
>All I know
That's what you think you know. You just admitted to not knowing, anyway.

>people actually think the Gen VI models are bad, or worse than any previous models the series has used

alomomolmao

>>28431155
Dude a doctorate in programming won't help you if you have no eyes. They look like shit, something pretty much everyone but you agree on, and any amount of furmulas can't disprove that. They failed their duties of making the models appealing

>>28429860
Tripfags having the worst of opinions as usual desu

>>28431191
This

There's a difference between models and animations. The models look (mostly) fine, maybe one or two could do better.)

The animations, some are good but most are sadly not that interesting to look at.

>>28431244
American
>>28431191
Yeah like even the Pokedex 3D Pro I believe had worse polygon count than X/Y's

>>28429611
> using a pastel colored pokemon against a fire-lit tropical environment to try to prove a point about it being "washed out"

Its called fucking contrast people. Jesus christ half the people in this thread have absolutely no understanding of how color theory or design works and yet make the most head up ass'ed claims like they're experts

>>28431339
Color theory and design are used to make things look good.

Not backwards, my dear anon, stop pretending you know shit to excuse bad decisions.

>>28429821
Half of their models were taken from Stadium though.

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Dead inside

>>28431467
Then again, compare that with how you see that line in like Mystery Dungeon. Yeah, the flames are only supposed to come out when they attack.
else, the animation itself is kinda static, yeah.

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It doesn't even blink.

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>>28429140
>they ruined just about every pokemon.
Not really. 3D did ruin a bunch of pokémon by completely removing any kind of "attitude", "character" or "personality" the sprite showed, but it's far from "ruining every pokemon", many do still look fine.

The main problem is that the 3D sprites are just very neutral. In fact, it reminds me a lot of modern Simpsons vs old hand drawn ones.

The unfortunate side effect of 3D seems to be that it makes things lose "character". If my English was better I'd find better words and ways of describing what I mean, but maybe people understand what I am trying to say.

>>28430664
Hippowdon doesn't have ears? What the fuck

>>28431600
>3D
>sprites
>3D sprites
god damn you did the meme

>>28431644
you know what I mean. 3D models.

>>28431610
WHAT? I DON'T HAVE FUCKING EARS.

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Eelektross went from being a derpy looking stout fat little doofus to being a lithe serpentine sick as fuck greatly animated Pokemon.

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My personal favorite fuck up.

>>28430003
There's literally nothing wrong with mega evolutions.
Everything else though yeah pretty awful.

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>>28431366

Pichu is actually supposed to be pastel colored.

>>28431761
There's a lot wrong with mega evolutions

Could've just given a lot of pokemon proper evolutions and others better BST

Only a tiny fraction of mega evolutions look better than the base pokemon, too.

>>28431401

No they weren't.

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>>28431750

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Why did Gen 6 make everyone so obese

>>28431750
shiny looked so diferent in 3rd gen? right now it only changes the shell (practically)

>>28431810
and I forgot to mention the horrible excuse of a tail oops

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What went right?

>>28431644
I know.
The problem with having these 3D models is not only restricting them to be more natural with minimal clipping, it's also everything related to movement and restrictions of that certain mon. There's a reason Ferroseed is stuck to the ground, but obviously some stances of other mons look just plain and unexpressive. I get that, but they're not exactly bad either. It was perhaps the best way to go about things as attack animations have to transition to and from neutral idle animation as smoothly as possible, all while actually looking good in the attack animation.
>>28431749
>>28431854
Expressive animations done right in this case.
>>28431810
Spritework has limits such as height and width in pixels. The rest can be explained as perspective and all that.

>>28431810

>a 3D model looks fatter than a flat 2D image

holy shit! alert the presses

>>28431866
>28431644
Meant >>28431663

>>28431854

It actually moves instead of standing still

Porygon Z's animations are awesome. Really give the sense of it being basically a living piece of software or data that's all glitched, bugged out and corrupted.

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>>28429611
>sprites are canon
So I bet you think all pokemon should be black and white.

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>>28431787
I agree with the BST part (some even had a 10 point increase in a stat starting in gen 6) but

>eviolite sableye
>eviolite aggron
>eviolite steelix
>mega with items

>>28431792

Yes they were.

Most of the models for Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon were ripped straight from the Stadium games, which is why they looked like shit compared to the newer Pokemon.

They re-used the Stadium models up until Pokedex 3D, where they finally updated all of the Pokemon's models.

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>>28431866
Ferroseed was insane in gen5

>>28431979
That's why you could've just given those slightly improved BST and be done with it.

When I said evolution I meant pokemon like audino

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>>28431599
Shit, I was so mad when I saw a Ferroseed in X.
Remember it in gen V? What happened?

>>28432001

Oh, my bad. I thought you meant XY used Stadium models.

>>28430664
When I first saw it my brain didn't connect that those two were the same pokemon, I though it was its pre-evo or something.

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>>28432001

For example, here's Golduck

>>28431810
>that tail
WHAT
THE
FUCK

>>28432017
vvvrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
but does that make any sense for the mon? Not really
>>28432001
You're not trying to tell me they used the same model for Crobat in X/Y as in Colusseum and/or Battle Revolution
>>28432066
It's called cell shading, that's why it looks like it's a separate dot of hair.

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>>28432045

And here's Hippowdon from the same game

>>28429838
Shit like these is why I don't take you "3D MODELS RUIN EVERYTHING" faggots seriously, if you think Archeops was a "bad change".

>>28432085
The tail went from sideswept hair to stuck out blob spikes, that's not to do with shading

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Makes me wish they had improved the sprite animations instead. Then again it's more of a personal preference since I like the whole "2D characters in 3D environments" thing seen in games and shows.

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>>28432148
Perspective, plus sprites have obvious color depth limitations.
It's still rather connected, but I get what you mean obviously. It's just that the spritework here is the faulty thing for not showing what's actually going on, not the model.

Some pokémon went from looking really threatening or having some visible aggressiveness in their sprite to just standing there in a neutral 3D stance and it looks fucking dumb

>>28432170
I wish they'd moved forward with that as well, I know 3D made sense but they could've had a really beautiful game on their hands if they'd cleaned up the Gen V look with the power of the 3DS

>>28432244
No, in this case it's the model improperly showing it.

>>28429187
The color isn't the problem with the 3D models.

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>>28429941
HELLO DARKNESS MY OLD FRIEND

>>28432308
Again, I tried explaining this >>28431866
>>28432359
You can't say that the model is faulty when the sprite is more limited in what you can interpret from it. There's more margin for error in such a tiny picture and even still the tail's clearly a lump like the model gives, it's just not as clear with the limited perspective of the sprite.
The anime and other games like GoD / Colosseum have the tail being "bally" as well. The sprite is being unrealistic, that's all.

>>28431795
It's never bothered me how short its arms were until now

Gen 2 Sprites > Gen 5 Sprites > Colosseum/XD models > Gen 1 Sprites >>> Gen 4 Sprites >>>>>> Gen 3 Sprites >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Gen 6 Models

>>28432514
if you're blind you might think the sprite is at fault, but when i look at the sprite i clearly see something different from the model. a big fluffy tail.

>>28432521
>gen 1 sprites better than anything

>>28432521
>Gen 1 Sprites over anything

>>28432521
10/10 taste

>>28432526
Did you not read my reasoning
>>28432521
>gen 1 is better than anything
Gen 3 sprites were not as bad as people like to say. It's rather excellent for the time.
>gen 2 sprites on top
donphan.png

>>28432521
Gen 1 sprites should be much lower.
Other than that, accurate list.

>>28432580
>Did you not read my reasoning
i'm not trying to be a jerk but heres what you said
>>28432514
>You can't say that the model is faulty when the sprite is more limited in what you can interpret from it. There's more margin for error in such a tiny picture and even still the tail's clearly a lump like the model gives, it's just not as clear with the limited perspective of the sprite.
to which i responded what i responded. i disagree with your analysis of the sprite i guess. or perception or what have you.
>>28432514
>The anime and other games like GoD / Colosseum have the tail being "bally" as well. The sprite is being unrealistic, that's all.
in response to this... we can debate this all day but we all know gamefreak sucks at graphics... so whatever. but you'd think in a game about magical animals they could at least attempt to program some okay fur textures...

>>28432660
>program
idk why i said program sorry

>>28432580
Crystal has the best sprites

OP HERE

Can you guys shut up? I left this thread after 5 posts.

Go reply to my OTHER thread with the weavile

>>28430012
...you're retarded. Completely missing the point of this thread altogether. I'm just gonna assume you were baiting because holy fuck, this is fucking stupid.

>>28432547
>>28432540

From a technical standpoint, Gen I's sprites were shitty to be sure. But they are unmatched stylistically. Ever since gens I/II they have been taking the "monster" out of Pocket monsters and just turning them into cutesy disneyfied cartoons. Gens 3 and 4 were particularly egregious at this. Gen I had sprites that were fierce af, even if they were low res.

>>28429941
>Magneton's Gen 1+2 cry was ok, a bit disjointed
>Redone in Gen 3, sounds amazing
>Redone AGAIN in Gen 6 to sound more like Gen 1+2 again
>Retroactively ruins Magnezone's cry as well
Fucking Genwun pandering

>>28432822
(you)

>>28432521
Put Gen 5 sprites on the same level as Gen 4 sprites and that is correct.

>>28432492
Worst updated cry of all

>>28432822
I don't know.

I'll agree that gen 2 had the best sprites, they had the most "character" and personality to them.

But after that I'd name gen 5.

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>>28431467
>tfw

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Remember when Gengar looked scary?

>>28433281
HG/SS one elegant and pretty as fuck

>>28433217
>that Crystal expression
Fucking perfect.

>>28433199
I need bleach to cleanse my eyes.

>>28433281
What am I supposed to see here? They're all very similar.

>>28433217

It has never looked scary

>>28433322
Crystal was GOAT because it had gen II 10/10 sprites and slight animations on top of them

>>28433217
You can always tell gen 3 is exactly where the neutering happened. Gen 3 was a mistake.

>>28433217
>RS sprite was great
>FRLG ruins it

>DP sprite was great
>Platinum ruins it

Like poetry

>>28429211
Not a mistake, just the person who made the poses left them too bland compared to the sprites

>>28433336
Do the world a favor and drink it instead

>>28433322
was going to say exactly that

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>>28433358
>>28433416

Crystal will always be my favorite game for the sprites alone. It's basically the apex of early Pokemon. All genwunners and nostalgiafags like me can basically agree this game is where the series peaked.

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lol

>>28433217
At least he always looked mischievous through these. In gen 6 he just looks dumb

>>28433637
Wow RBY actually made this fat fuck look cool. Everything else is pretty bad

>>28433632
They're all so expressive, dynamic and colorful.

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>>28432521

Colosseum/XD models look like dog shit, m8

Compare this:

Will we ever get new 3D ones anyway?

Now that they made em 3D it feels like they just go with "eh, that does the job"

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>>28433763

To this.

Notice how much smoother and detailed these are compared to the blocky mess that is Colosseum.

>>28433632
>tfw Gengar and Hypno will never be this creepy again

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>>28433770

The whole point of 3D models is that you don't have to create new ones from scratch every time. You can just touch them up a bit and you're done.

For Support Pokemon in Pokken, they just took the Gen 6 models and slapped some textures on them.

They're meant to be future-proof.

>>28433866
I'm not sure I like that idea.
They just look so sterile.

>>28433637
Looks good in B/W. I hate it's Gen 6 model and I use it regularly in battles.

>>28433770
>>28433866
This exactly. That's why the 3DS hates the current models- they've got way more polygons than they need so they can use them forever, cutting way down on modeling work for future games.

>>28433910
They can always change the pose and expression, that's the problem for most of them.
Some models are just horrible abominations (Empoleon, Haxorus) but at least they're a minority.

>>28433898

Making new ones every few years is a waste of time and money when you already have serviceable ones that you can just rexture or whatever.

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>>28433632
Fix'd

>>28433958
love each other

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>>28433375
I think it was the anime that ruined a lot of pokemon first
the gengar family started getting too purple in the anime. this is one of the better looking examples, but it's from gengar's first appearance

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>>28433375
also

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>>28434329

>>28433637
Will Dragonite ever look good?

>>28431678
grade A reference

>>28429140
Empoleon is my favorite pokemon and this makes me sad.

>>28429935
They're not gliding anywhere though, so it doesn't make any sense.

>>28429211
3D was excellent. We've seen it with all the console versions like stadium, coliseum, and battle revolution.

Hiring whatever least-effort-possible imbecile they put in charge of animations, that's where they went wrong.

>>28430766
That's the fucking point, you shitbrained mongoloid.

>P1: hey, the colors are inconsistent
>P2: no they're not
>P1: yes they are
>P2: well, that's just color inconsistency

OP HERE AGAIN

I change my mind


Only some got messed up, they didn't even try with Empoleon but Dedenne translated quite well.

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>>28432492
FUCKING hell this is the one that bother me the most. Also didn't survive the 3d transition very well

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And people say /vp/ isn't a circlejerk.

Haha, just kidding, nobody says that.

>>28431749
I liked the dancing

>>28436472
Some things just can't be denied.

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>>28429941
;_;

>>28429972
Pretty much this, I miss gen 5 Archeops, also flying gem

>>28433964
And they need to - with Gen VII mons, they're going to have over 900 unique models for Pokemon, form(e)s, gender differences, and Megas to maintain. Inefficient to remake them every Gen.

>>28431467
I would be fine with this id the fire showed up when he attacked, but >>28430664
Is worse looking, but I don't think you can do sand without it either looking bad or being resource intensive.

>>28436987
It'd basically look like Palossand, probably. A retextured Muk.

>>28429140
95% of the models look better than sprits, including the one in your pic.
Stop being a little bitch and embrace change.

>>28429633
Yeah no. That mence is flat as fuck.

>>28429216
The games are cannon you dumb fuck.

>>28429830
They did it because of stupid Sky Battles gimmick

>>28432492
He goes from:
PYYYYYYYYY JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!

To:
CHUUAANGprrpprpr

>>28433217
wtf is wrong with its Platinum sprite

>>28429162
Source ? I'm genuinly curious to see if there is more

>>28437296
It's the middle part of the D/P sprite animation

>>28433637
Gold and Crystal are the worst
He looks like Barney the Dinosaur

>>28437609
Dp/Pt is the worst, that pose doesn't make any sense

>>28432540
>>28432547
>not liking shifty-eyed golbat with a visible tongue

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>>28436429
I can see how it didn't survive the sound transition, but the 3D transition wasn't abysmal like most other 'mons.

Still sucks either way you look at it though.

>>28429162
It looks like it's fucking an invisible person.

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>>28437805

>>28431600
>The unfortunate side effect of 3D seems to be that it makes things lose "character"

That's only because of lazy animators. 3D can have just as much squash and stretch as hand drawn animation. For example;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1a_hBeChQ4

The only problem with 3D is this laziness and desire to stick with rigid reality have both become far too prevalent because it takes more effort to rig a model that has the capacity for squash and stretch that doesn't look glitchy than it does to simply rig one for basic movement functions.

>>28433199
>>28429162
Source ? I want to see more reanimated models

>>28434598
>not m'lotic.webm
ONE JOB

People defending the XY models will forever just blindly lap up whatever diarrhea GF shits down their throats. Literally none of you were sitting there playing Platinum and sighing to yourself, "man, I wish they would give the Pokemon more boring poses and strip away these annoying vibrant colors".

If GF had stuck with sprites for XY, the same people would still praise them. If they had recycled the BR models, the same people would still praise them.

Should be renamed /vp/ - The Board with No Opinions

>>28431600
I am hoping their focus on XY was just getting the models built. Hopefully they will go back and add some more lively animations as the series goes on, since they won't have to re-create every Pokemon from scratch anymore. But I doubt it.

>>28430901
THE NUTSHACK

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whaddup bois

>>28429140
>MUH SPRITES
How To Spot a Sinnohfetus 101

>>28438650
>People defending the XY models will forever just blindly lap up whatever diarrhea their nostalgia shits down their throats. Literally all of you were sitting there playing Platinum and sighing to yourself, "man, I'm so glad these immobile pieces of last-generation shit with two frames of animation are all we have despite being one of the most profitable franchises in existence on a platform that can easily handle full 3D".

If GF had stuck with sprites for XY, the same people would still whine about them. If they had recycled the BR models, the same people would still whine about them.

Should be renamed /vp/ - The Board of Nostalgic Sinnohfoeti

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>>28429860
A conscious choice to BE LAZY

>>28430275
IT IS IN FACT

>>28432034
Why is it also buried in the ground when it drops from the ceiling? The model is still an oval, but it buries 1/3rd of its body for whatever reason.

>>28433199
The pose here looks fine, but that flame still needs serious work to look even remotely okay. Make it flicker and bristle instead of contract and expand like that.

/vp/ - muh fav gen has the best everything

>>28439031
Because you can't be buried into the ceiling if there isn't one.

>>28439031
I assumed it just hits the ground so hard it stays there.

>>28433281
How strange, Ninetales is one of the few they bothered touching up going from DP to Platinum, but I actually prefer that DP sprite.

>>28432034
why would a land mine be constantly spinning?

>>28433637
>>28434617
Dragonite has always been ugly as fuck.

Crobat in 3d is just shit

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>>28440536

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>>28440536
.