So remind me again why this thing still needs a negative ability

>>28428656
Because Game Freak is Game Freak and Game Freak doesn't know what it's doing

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>>28428696
True desu

>>28428696
It's funny too because they seem to actually believe that it would be too strong without defeatist because it's the only fossil pokemon with no HA.

In a world with mega evos they think this thing is too strong. Fuck, it has less attack than some of the shit they added in gen 5 much less the new powercreep shit.

>>28428656

Game Freak never allows anything that it's a legendary or pseudo-legendary to gave above Arcanine's BST (555) without a hindering ability.

Top 5 non-legendary/pseudo/mega BSTs:

1. Slaking (670)
2. Archeops (567)
3. Arcanine (555)
4. Florges (552)
5. Volcarona (550)

At 567 BST, Archeops is much stronger than any other other fossil Pokemon, and thus gets a hindering ability.b

>>28428656
head smash spam = obnoxious

>>28428877
Which I honestly think it's a stupid thing, you're hindering the pokemon for no reason other then "it can't be stronger then Arcanine if it isn't a Pseudo or actual Legend". Considering we now have stuff like Megas with insanely high stats and other thing like Primals, it really wouldn't be a big deal.

>>28428740
>It's funny too because they seem to actually believe that it would be too strong without defeatist because it's the only fossil pokemon with no HA.

Archeops - 567 BST
Tyrantrum and Aurorus - 521 BST
Aerodactyl - 515 BST
All other fossils (including Archeops's counterpart, Carracosta) - 425 BST

So yeah, Defeatist is intended to make up for its stats being so much higher than the other fossil Pokemon

>>28428950

With Megas though, you can only use one.

>>28428975
495 not 425

>>28428975
Yet most of those stats are invested in sp. atk which he doesn't have a usable movepool for. He has like dragon pulse, earth power and hyper beam. That's it. If he had something like draco meteor I could maybe see it, but he can't take advantage of his stats.

>>28428903
Without defeatist, at worse, it would be a much slower Megadactyl. And it's not like Megadactyl is having a perverse influence on the meta.

>>28429065
252 Atk Mega Aerodactyl Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 169-199 (41.8 - 49.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Choice Band Archeops Head Smash vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Mew: 388-457 (96 - 113.1%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

It's considerably different from Mega-Aerodactyl, IMO. It also gets U-Turn, meaning it can grab momentum more freely without having to worry about Defeatist.
Also, Heat Wave is good coverage.

>>28428877
>archeops has the same stat total as his dex number
>567 is the Dewey Decimal category for books on dinosaurs
>567.9 is where you'll find books on prehistoric birds like the archeopteryx

It amuses me to know that somewhere, someone who was likely a former librarian working at gamefreak designed this pokemon and decided to make its stat total not based in balance but rather on a dank librarian meme.

>>28429227
Holy shit that's cool.

>>28428877
Didn't know Florges beat Volcarona's BST.

>>28428877
And Wishiwashi-S will probably join Slaking/Archeops.

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>>28428656
>>28429065
>Implying it can't take advantage of its solid special attack
Y'all niggas are retarded as fuck. It has access to Hone Claws which benefits Focus Blasts and Heat Waves imperfect accuracy, and both sides for Stone Edge which would make a mixed set viable(if it lacked that terrible ability). Stay casual faggots.

>>28428877

You could reduce Archeops' Special Attack stat from 112 to 100, since it can barely use it anyway, and it would then meet the "Arcanine threshold". It's functionally very similar to Aerodactyl anyway.

>>28429386
You contradict yourself.

>You guys are stupid you can totally make a special set work

>Too bad it's ability is shit for it to actually work

>>28428656
I don't understand why they gave a pokemon thats clearly trying fly as hard as it can to fly defeatist as an ability

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>us Aerodactyl fans have their own Flygon
god Archeopfag tears are delicious

Even without Defeatist, he probably wouldn't even be that big of a threat. His defenses are already paper thin, so mostly any super effective move should KO it.

I hope GF realizes this and changes up his ability, or giving him a HA, such as Sheer Force.

It gets Roost

>>28429586
>he

fuck me, I was mistaking this thing with Braviary baka

>>28429448
Archeop's ability still cripples it regardless running a physical set or not. It the main reason why Head Smash is not recommended for it.

>>28429386
lmao archeops can't do any setup move based sets because it's neither fast enough, nor durable enough, and you can't sash him because he's useless. You can't life orb him either, and you can't use head smash more than maybe twice.

The only thing you can really do with Archeops atm is choice sets, usually band. CB U-Turn pivot is the only way I've seen him used effectively (since you can't really gem-acro anymore).

>>28429473
his gen 5 sprite gave no indication that he was a poor flier.

>>28429586
Sheer force would be retarded, he should just get a mediocre ability like keen eye or some shit. Can you imagine how fucking stupid this thing would be in doubles with sheer force STAB rock slide?

>>28429622
75/65/65 can't really use roost effectively.

>>28428877
So that's why the fucked Wishiwashi over with its "lol reverts to being useless at under 50% health" faggotry?

For Defeatist to be fair it still needs a bit buff to speed and attack, like 10 each, then I will call it fair.

>>28430354
Oh and reduce sp.attack as well. High sp.attack but useless as fuck, hell just drop it to 0 and it won't affect anything.