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Why haven't more people tried to fix the XYORAS model poses/animations?

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Why haven't more people tried to fix the XYORAS model poses/animations?

Pic very much related.
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>>28415047
Yeah, I want to see all of the flying shitters on the ground. Fuck Sky Battles for being a shitty gimmick that absolutely ruined too many poses.
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>>28415077
>7 poses is too many
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>>28415077

The Pokemon stand on the ground in Pokemon-Amie.

Sky Battles didn't ruin shit, they simply have flying animations for battle, and non-flying animations for Amie.
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>>28415077

play amie you retard
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>>28415047
Actual in-battle pose for comparison.
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>>28415156
looks better than what OP posted
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>>28415047
If i knew how to edit models, I'd certainly do it.
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>>28415077
They don't even need to be on the ground, just not gliding.
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>>28415047

That looks like shit OP

Sprites were posed the way they were to make up for having limited to no animation.

Models don't have that problem, so they don't need poses like that.
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>>28415244
Comparison
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>>28415258
Fuck off, they actually look ready for battle instead of stating there looking uninterested.
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>>28415258
>Sprites were posed the way they were to make up for having limited to no animation.

Yes, it's much better having them be lifeless and disinterested all the time except for 0.3 seconds while attack which you can't see most of the time.
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>>28415047
>"Master, I'm ready for anal!"
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>>28415258
arguing against dynamic poses
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>ITT: People who have never made a game

3D models are supposed to stand still when when they're not attacking.
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>>28415365
>standing still is looking lifeless
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>>28415365
Stand still, yes.
Stuck in a stiff, lifeless pose? no.
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>>28415365
Because you have, right faggot? You don't need to create a game to see how terrible the original animations are.
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>>28415047
>>28415249
>>28415286
I like these. Post more please. These honestly give the Pokemon a bit more life/character.
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>>28415365
It's still standing still you idiot, it just isn't in a boring neutral pose and it looks like it's ready to actually do something.
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>>28415329
They're supposed to be ready for battle, not constantly trying to look cool by striking a dumb pose.

They're plenty dynamic when they're actually attacking; you are aware that most pokemon have at least 3 different attack animations, right? Plus multiple animations for Amie?

Or do you just look at the screencap on Serebii and bitch?
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>>28415047
How are you doing these OP?
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>>28415426
There's honestly not that many of them to post. That's the problem.
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>>28415258
3D models give us the opportunity to do more animations and poses than available via sprites, but you'd prefer them to just stand motionless still?
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>>28415459
Comparison

>>28415449
I'm not, someone on Smogon did.
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/custom-3d-animated-renders.3526922/
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>>28415365
It's not about standing still, it's about standing still while also looking like you're in the middle of a battle. Look at Bisharp for example: he looks like he's waiting in line at the cash register. If they gave his legs a wider base and had his arms doing something other than just being limp at his sides, this would be a perfectly fine pose.

Compare it with his pose in Gen V. He stood still, but it looked dynamic and like he was actually in a fight.
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>>28415286
This one doesn't really look like a fighting pose, but Absol and Gallade are nice
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>>28415543
nigga he only has his flames when he's going to use a move
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>>28415459
Can you try to make it look like this one?
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>>28415568
why is that one humping the air
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>>28415543
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>>28415564
If it makes him look better then who gives a shit?
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>>28415543
Much better
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>>28415564

Are you seriously going to complain about this? Why can't it have it's flames out during a fucking battle? It looks a lot better this way.
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>>28415047
I like the original better.
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>>28415583
He's getting motivated
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>>28415543
this one looks pretty bad desu
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>>28415568
ahahaha what the fuck
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>>28415543
>>28415588

I'm so fucking mad that they didn't use something like this

He looks 50 times better
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>>28415244
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>>28415543
The flames could've been made to have a more fluid flow, but other then that holly shit I like it.
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>>28415304
But Absol is supposed to me a majestic Pokemon, it makes sense for it to stand the way it does instead of standing ready to pounce
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>>28415568
Saved
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>>28415564
this is why typhlosion is the worst fire type
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>>28415543
>Typhlosionfags in charge of knowing about their pokemon
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>>28415673
>Typhlosion
>worst fire type
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>>28415568
kek
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>>28415543
>>28415588
Jesus, ew. That looks even worse than what we have. At least try to emulate the flickering effect the gen5 sprite had. It's supposed to look like it's bursting out like sparks, not like a constant flame like on Infernape's head.
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>>28415568
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>>28415365
Then explain >>28415274
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Some of them are more resting posing than battle poses
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>>28415827

Fuck off with your shit opinion
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>>28415882
WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE!!!???
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holy shit these are pretty good
except for this one >>28415894

now I'm sad
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>>28415882
Now make a dabbing blaziken
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>>28415910
No, it's your opinion that is shit.
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Hey do hitmontop spinning on his head.
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>>28415365
This didn't seem to be a problem for HAL or Genius Sonority when they created 3D battle models.
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source on these?
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>>28415994

You realize op isn't making these right?
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Could you fix this?
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>>28415910
>>28415961
Seriously, look at the Crystal and gen 5 sprites and just try to defend that shitty fan model
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>>28416030
Done.
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Has anything been done with Zangoose? God, I miss the gamecube animation.
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>>28416030
No one could
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>>28416032
They just reused the actual fire effect used by the ORAS model .
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>>28416032
>It's the same.
Uh...
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This is why the previous 3D games are superior. The animations in those games had character. These animations in XY are just lifeless.
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>>28416060
Fucking nice.
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>>28416060
...where does that stick fit?
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>>28416060
>Completely frozen except for the fur and tail swaying in the wind
Try again.

Delphox wouldn't be standing completely still. At least, at the very LEAST, make it blink.
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>>28416060
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>>28416132
Furries can stick ANYTHING in their assholes
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>>28416132
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>>28416132
It's the stick he pulls out of his sleeve when attacking.
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Anyway to download these ? And not just the gifs
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>>28416060

It's arms could use a bit more movement but this is really good.
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>>28416060
how do people think that this isn't absolute dogshit
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>>28416252
Because they're not faglords
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>>28415047
That looks like shit, the image is far too narrow.
OP is what you get when /3/tards try to pretend they're artists.
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Let's list Pokemon that need fixed:
>Xatu needs to stand
>Skarmory needs to stand
>Gardevoir needs to not shurg on the one attack animation
>Altaria's wings should be folded back
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>>28416060
gross
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>>28415047
She looks like she's ready to take a dick in the ass
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>>28416323
Archeops for the love of christ
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>>28416252

Yeah because >>28416030 is so much better right?
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>>28416252
For one, they can compare it to the XY animation right in this thread.
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>>28416276
It looks like a motherfucking statue.

Why isn't its actual body moving? Why is it standing still? The main body needs animation itself, not just the fur.
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>>28416323
>Xatu needs to stand
>Skarmory needs to stand
>Altaria's wings should be folded back

You know those are already in the game right anon?
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>>28416369
That one is just as bad, but at least its body has movement. The modified model should bob a bit, because nobody fucking stands 100% still and it completely breaks the animation of the model for the fur to be so fluid with movement while the body is as stiff as stone.

They don't compliment each other in the slightest.
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>>28416402
I meant actually changing it so that's how it is in battle, not these edits.
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>>28415448
Just because they need to be functional doesn't meant they shouldn"t have dynamic poses, both are compatible. All they need is a pose the attack animations can start from, the pose itself could use some improvement as far as some pokemon are concerned.
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>>28416402
that only shows how retarded GF is
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>>28415543
Completely fucked up
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>>28415882
You gave me a good laugh. Good job.
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This thread is fucking amazing OP
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>>28416060
That's not good. Give it its sugimori ppose.
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>>28416527
Go thank the creator

http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/custom-3d-animated-renders.3526922/
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>>28416580
>>28416552
>we could have had these used in battle
>they couldve made the shitty flying pose exclusive to sky battles.
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>>28416645
Fuck x/y was so trash
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Could someone fix Swellow's so it's flapping and not gliding? The gliding just doesn't make a whole lot of sense in normal battles
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>>28416645
>I want my pokemon to look battle ready!
>I want my bird pokemon standing on the ground!
Pick one.
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>>28416702
I want my Pokemon to not have a shitty gliding animation while battling.
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To rub salt on the wound, these are the models shown in the ORAS dex
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>>28415647
I hope we get a new Colosseum/Battle Revolution type game for NX

>Wishiwashi school form's model is modified to look like it's actually made out of thousands of fish
PLEASE
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>>28416760
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>>28415274 looks better than >>28415244 2bh.
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>>28415894
I like this one, not every pokemon has to have a high energy battle animation. Leafeon's platinum pokedex entry straight up says
>It basically does not fight.
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>>28416060
Even worse. Why does it have a thick ugly stick instead of the wand now?
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>>28416702
>I want my Pokemon to look battle ready!
>I want my bird Pokemon to mysteriously glide in place!
Pick one
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>>28416812
Pleasure
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>>28416702
Clearly you haven't seen the gen 5 sprite
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Can anyone fix Probopass' pose?

Not sure if it's exactly bad but the ones done here make the vanilla ones pale in comparison except Typhlosion, it's not supposed to have its flames constantly out.
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>>28415568
>>28415882
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>>28415541
to be fair since it's a small mon, it's possible it's not meant to be a fighting pose. More like it's looking curiously, not sure.
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Typhlosion having its flames out during a battle makes sense. It makes him more intimidating to his opponents. Birds, snakes and airplanes do essentially the same thing, make themselves look bigger or scarier in the face of danger or a challenge. Typhlosions just sitting there makes no sense much like the majority of gen 6 models
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>>28416895
I don't think Probopass CAN pose, anon... It's kind of just solid rock isn't it?
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>>28415502
Looks better than retardedly opening and closing it's mouth constantly
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>>28417415
>airplanes
Excuse me?
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>>28417415
>airplanes
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>>28417415
I agree with this. If anything, Typhlosion just shouldn't have its flames out in Pokemon Amie.
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>>28417493
>Do you know what breathing is anon?
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>>28417415
>airplanes
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>>28417512
>>28417513
Its the end of the world as we know it
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>>28415894
We need an Espeon in this pose (like the old one)
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>>28417598
LEONARD BERNSTEIN
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>>28417598
AND I FEEL FINE
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>>28415568
>Bittenhards final form.gif
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>>28415568
The world is a better place now.
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>>28415519
The only good one posted so far.
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Mega Manectric?
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>>28417492
Well it could have the mini noses rotate around it or maybe something about the movements could be bland, I don't know.

I just wanted to see if there was a better way.
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>>28417492
>>28417849
Probopass is always meant to face North, right Maybe do something with that, have it rotate left and right like it was a compass point finding north.
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>>28415156
Actually, I like this more. Looks more angelic, which is the obvious theme.

>>28415249
This one is nicer though.

>>28415568
AHAHAHAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK

SIDES GONE
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>>28415047

I like the models
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>>28419281
I like you're mum
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>>28415244
>>28415647
still shit
birds don't just casually flap and stay fixed in one place midair
unless its a hummingbird it should not be hovering
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>>28415894
Reminds me of Stadium poses.
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>>28419504
But the ones that just stand still look lame, contrary to what seems like the popular opinion.

And I highly doubt we're ever going to have them flying around for the idle pose, so...

Hovering really is the best they can do
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>>28419563
The cool thing about birds is that they can land and take off.
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>>28415732
you're right, second worst after torkoal
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>>28415564
And Jolteon's fur is only spiked when charged with electricity, preparing to fight or otherwise emotionally charged.
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>>28417541
>autistic mouth breather
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>>28415568
/thread
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>>28417415
Someone's looking to get a screenshot of their comedy I see
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>>28415568
>>28415519

So noob question. How have you guys been making these?

I wouldn't mind trying my hand at it.
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>>28422418
You can download a bunch of models from the modellers resource page, with their skeletons. Then you just animate them. Most of the ones in this thread come from one poster on Smogon.
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>>28422418
Based on this response alone you know nothing about rendering or rigging, so there's no point in you learning.
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So basically, make the stance wider and make them hunch over?
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>>28422461
I'm pretty sure the whole point of getting into anything new is to experience and learn.
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>>28422461
Everybody starts somewhere, asshole.
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>tfw you actualy love that finaly flying Pokemon are in air and makes you sad not all flying pokemon are in air
>tfw you love Xatu psychic levitation and Salamance floating as it always do in media

The rest of standing still in air are bad though. Especialy Tropius.
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>>28422461
you're fucking retarded.
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>>28422704
Salamance is floating out of battle even less than Garchomp, what are you talking about?

Being in the air isn't the issue here. The gliding forward in place is. Stuff like Butterfree is fine. But a lot of people like Mega Salamence's design a ton more once you show them this is what it looks like if it's not endlessly floating.
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>>28417415
>airplanes
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>>28416019
You mean the ones that make Pokemon disappear into nothing when defeated? Where Magneton is divided? Where Venusaur is on drugs for some reason?
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>>28422915
I'm not even sure if anything but gen 6 games show Salamence moving its wings to fly.
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>>28417415
>airplanes
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>>28425420
The ones where Pokémon are called back to their balls, where Magneton was divided as in some of its earlier sprites and Game Freak would certainly know what they want to be physically possible, and where it would no longer be on GCN graphics, in that order.
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