Why do we call them "pseudo-legendaries" when they

I agree. It should be
>Quasilegendaries
Dragonite and co.
>Semilegendaries
Phione, Heatran
>Pseudolegendaries
Arcanine, Unown, Lucario, Rotom, Zoroark, Volcarona

Because apart from Slaking, there's no other regular Pokemon that have 600+ bst

Because there aren't only one of them in the in-game universe?

>>28379389
they dont appear in mythology, but are comparable in actual strength

>>28379413
let's not get obtuse now

They're found in the wild, part of an evolutionary line and can breed, traits that legendary Pokemon don't have.

true heroes need to be virgins

Only retards call them that, they're just Dragonite equivalents.

>>28379441
Oh, and don't be cheeky and say "Manaphy!", that's their specific gimmick.

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>>28379428

They're strong, they appear near the end of their respective regional Pokedexes, and they -used- to be uncommon, but haven't been since Gen 4 onwards.

They were basically legendaries in every sense except that they evolved.

>>28379448
I've never heard anyone say that before. Sound pretty fucking stupid.

>>28379448
Pretty sure the folks at Bulbapedia are smarter than you.

>>28379497
That's exactly what they are though?

Just like you have your early route bird or rodent, you also have your late-game 600 BST dragon thing.

>>28379413
Why Heatran?

While there's the argument that they can breed, better argument is that they can evolve. And they're all three-stage lines.

I was hoping we'd have a non-dragon pseudo this gen but Jangmo-o is probably it.

>>28379540
>implying Metagross is a dragon thing

>>28379551
Only legendary to not have a fixed gender. It really feels more like a modern version of stuff like Eevee and Snorlax in RGBY.

>>28379540
>metagross
>dragon thing
They're pseudos. It fits.

>>28379477
thats an acute angle you booger

Geez, Hoenn. How come GameFreak lets you have TWO pseudo-legendaries?

>>28379744
watch alola having 2 as well

>>28379448
Yeah cause dragonite equivalent rolls right off the tongue.

>>28379907
dragoneq?

>>28379412
Why isn't slaking there

>>28379997
It's ability cripples it. And yet they create shit like Mega Evolutions.

>>28379744
*three

>>28380024
That doesn't change the fact that it is a pseudo.

>>28379589
No, that's the climax of the joke

>>28379413
>Rotom
why?

>>28380046
But it's not,it has more than 600 BST

>>28380065
Even more reasons to call it pseudo legendary than the others then.

>>28379744
Because is the best region

>>28379412
we ready for Jungmo-o/Cutiefly to be the Psuedo of speed

>>28380046
It's not a bst of 600

>>28379485
to this day, i've never had a in-game Tyranitar
fuck Mt. Silver

>>28379744
Because no older pseudos abaible and no retro compatibility.

>>28380092
no,that's not how you determine a pseudo

>>28380121
you can get larvitar in the safari zone in HGSS

>>28379389
I'm pretty sure it has to do with idiot kids thinking Dragonite was legendary because it was a dragon. There's a pattern of 3-stage Pokemon with the same BST total and the name stuck onto them. It's really just the result of Americans who don't understand language forcing colloquialisms as always

>>28380111
It's even higher.

>>28380131
>muh EXACT 600 BST
Pseudo isn't even an official term, stop moving the goal post just because slaking isn't ou. That's like saying
Mega salamence, tyranitar and metagross are no longer pseudos because higher bst.

>>28379997
not 600 Bst
final evo doesn't evolve over level 40

>>28380237
>Pseudo isn't even an official term
Exactly, it's a fan term to describe Pokémon that fit a specific set of criteria. Slaking doesn't fit those.

>>28380237
megas are just forms of the pokemon a temporary buff in battle and if it went by that logic mega gengar would be a Pseudo legend

>>28380111
why do people call arkanine pseudo then ?

>>28380776
Because they don't know what it means.

>>28380263
>>28380292
Pseudo legendaries are non legendary pokemon with legendary like bst, any other aditional rule is just retard autists screaming muh patterns just to exclude slaking because it isn't an ou/uber mon like the others.

>>28380776
>why do people
Is this your first day on planet Earth? People are idiots. Almost every post on this website is complete nonsense.

>>28380776
Arcanine is not pseudo, it is full legendary.

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>>28380828
>trusting pokedex or anime

>>28380813
Did you make up the term? You don't get to just redefine things because you're an autist that's in love with Slaking.

>>28380776
I've never see someone say that

>>28380906
>muh patterns!

>>28380813
Hydreigon Metagross and goodra are not OU

>>28380960
And....? Moltres is a legendary and it's not in OU or hell UU

>>28380953
>Muh great argument

>>28380164
>being a stupid sand NIGGER

>>28380953
If it was a pseudo legendary a champ would use it too

>>28380997
>muh patterns just to exclude slaking because it isn't an ou/uber mon like the others.
>like the others
not all Psuedo are OU

Is Slaking used competitively?

>>28380960
>>28381030
Not right now, but they were in the past, unlike slaking.

>>28381132
You can use it with an eject button cofagrigus, but it is kinda gimnick

>>28380060
Legendary battle music. And only nonlegendary to have indefinite forms that can be changed outside of battle.

>>28381270
That's only in DP.

>>28380110
>Cutiefly

Really? I mean I guess anything is possible.

>>28380813
Slaking has an absurdly high BST to compensate for its negative ability, which is what it was designed around.

Pseudos are designed to be strong for the sake of being strong.

>>28379540

>dragon thing

I get what you're saying, but I don't think that's right way to say it. At the time, non-legendary dragons weren't considered legendaries by any means, but they were considered to be really strong pokemon.

I will agree with you, though. Slapping the term "legendary" with any sort of strong legendary pokemon mainly because of stats is fucking stupid.

>>28379389

High stats without actually being legendary. Hence, "Pseudo" - fake.

Also, that Zygarde-Metagross is fucking cool.

>>28381360
The majority of "regional rodents" aren't rodents so why is "regional dragon" a problem?

>>28381307
How do you know for what are they designed for? Is your father Nintendo?

>>28379485
Since Gen 5 I'd say. Gible was a fucking nightmare to find if you didn't look it up on the internet

>>28381011
What a weird conclusion to jump to.

i really hate how goodra ruins the criteria that they also had to be dual type and have an immunity based on type.

moar zygarde pokés please

Criteria for a Pseudo since some of you are fucking mongoloids:
>EXACT 600 BST
>3 Stage evolution line
>Near the end of regional Dex
>1,250,000 EXP at level 100

We have 7 of those right now, see
>>28379412

They're called pseudo (meaning false) legendaries because of their high BST, and arguably their slow leveling similar to legendaries, but are separated due to being part of an evolutionary family and being breedable. They are comparable in strength to legendaries but don't meet the criteria to be considered legendaries.
Things that are not pseudos but are sometimes mistaken for them:
Haxorus
Volcarona
Aggron
Slaking

>>28381405
>Also, that Zygarde-Metagross is fucking cool.
We made a whole bunch of those some time ago back when we didn't know what Zygarde was supposed to be

>>28382918
Goodra sticks out like a sore thumb, I agree

Though I wouldn't mind seeing a pseudo with more regular typing like Normal/Flying or Grass/Water

>>28383576
Yeah we have enough dragons as pseudos already

>>28381360

>with any sort of strong NON-legendary pokemon mainly because of stats is fucking stupid.

>>28382875
Not him, but it's the same as blaming Americans for making the error when most namefags I know are EU.

>>28380024

>Ability cripples it, but has a high BST.

And what about Regigigas?

>>28383862
What about it?

>>28383830
What are you talking about?
There's a long history of Americans drumming up random, nonsensical terms with unrelated words and spreading them. British, Irish and Australian terminology is, at its worst, at least a clever joke.

And calling a person a racial slur because they said that is fucking retarded.

Pseudo-legendary doesn't make any sense since none of those Pokemon are the subjects of "pseudo-legends", I'm not sure how a "pseudo-legend" would even work. Legendary Pokemon are Pokemon who are the subject of legends, though. Regional 3-stage strong lads aren't legendary in any sense and the weird term is pretty terrible.

>>28379389
Because they're not legendaries despite having better stats.

Congratulations, you answered your own question.

>>28383930
>And calling a person a racial slur because they said that is fucking retarded.
You don't even see the irony in what you're saying. Okay, LAD, I'm sure it's the Americans fault for everything that you dislike on a 20 year International video game based in Japan.

>>28379412
Why did Gen 3 get two yet none of the others did?

>>28384021
>America is an ethnicity
Maybe you're just here to prove my point about the standards of American English.
Historically America has produced terminology using words that have no relation to the subject which the terminology in question is made to refer to.
Example: "art-design" - used in place of 'aesthetics' when discussion things that are neither art nor design.
Example: "art-style" - used in place of 'technique' when discussing how something was drawn.
Those two are pretty common here and are 100% American in origin.
The other English speaking countries, the ones outside of North America, have no similar examples because any term established there is either the actual, proper word or a comical colloquialism.
There's no discrimination on the statement, it's an objective observation. If you were able to read English properly you wouldn't have made that mistake.

also
>Americans fault for everything that you dislike on a 20 year International video game based in Japan
The English terms don't come from Japan, they come from the American localisation department. And the term in question is an unofficial term that commonly appears here: a website whose traffic consists mostly of American visitors, as well as other websites that are almost all of US origin.
You're a retard.

>>28380776
because they are also wrong, just like you

>>28384071
i think it's because they needed a another none legendary dragon for gen 3 but forgot metagross already has 600 base stats or realized you could only get metagross from beating steven/wallace

>>28384149
Nice wall of text but I couldn't see a source though.

Also,
>Maybe you're just here to prove my point about the standards of American English.
>Implying I'm American

>>28380035
>implying Flygon is a pseudo

>>28379389
Because all of the pseudo-legendaries are more common than legendaries and will breed an offspring of themselves with ditto, while all legendaries can't make an offspring of themselves with ditto (and no Manaphy giving birth to Phione doesn't count as Phione is a different species from Manaphy.)

>>28384195
I think he meant slaking,but he is still wrong

>>28384189
>wall of text
3 sentences with 3 sub-points? It's laughable that you think that's anything remotely sizable mate. I also love your inability to make any sort of counter argument because you're just a triggered retard.
And no one cares where you're from, just go back there and lock yourself in.

>>28384250
>3 sentences with 3 sub-points?
>they can't even count yet they want to lecture people on language

>triggered retard.
>this all started by getting triggered you got called a sand nigger

>>28379485

Garchomp line isn't near the end of the Sinnoh dex, champ

>>28383862
Regigigas is an actual legendary pokemon. What's your point?

>>28384288
>>can't even count
Do you seriously not know what a sentence is?
Fucking hell, kill yourself and stop derailing the thread.

>>28383930
Its fan terminology and it caught on because it evidently works well enough

They have comparable battle prowess to most 580-600 BST legends, they're fearsome, but they also have those shared characteristics that keep out all the other abnormally strong Pokemon. Thats all there is to it

>>28384071
I've always assumed because of the difficulty to obtain Dragonite and Tyranitar in RS

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>>28384339
I said wall of text. Learn to read, matey. You're the one who defined your own sentences and sub-points, but you couldn't even understand what you've done wrong.

Why are you lecturing people on language when you don't know how to use it yourself?

>>28384383
Yeah, I understand the logic, but "Legendary" as an actual word makes no sense when used like that is the point and it's obviously what confused OP.
They're regional strongboys, but there's no proper unifying noun that universally fits them.

>>28384426
Jesus you're a fucking idiot. Within the post, the part that was my point contained 3 sentences and three sub-points. One sub-point was examples, one was an extension of those examples and the third came at the end.

I look forward to you trying to pull the "I was only pretending to be retarded" card next you absolute mong.

>>28379412
>102 speed
>98 speed

Faggots

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>>28384478
>i-if I explain it again he'll see the error in his way! i've checked f-four times and I don't know what I did wrong!

>>28384288
I've never seen a more brutally retarded post than this in all my years here.
You can't even greentext properly.

>>28379744
Because Omega and Shinryu

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>>28384551
congratulations on collecting all of my allotted (you)s for September 9th 2016.
It takes a truly special individual, such as yourself, to display such an unprecedented level of complete idiocy that it gets under my skin.
I hope your life of being a worthless idiot who can't read properly and exclusively shitposts on 4chan without ever making an actual point works out for you so you can look back fondly on your achievements today 50 years from now when you're still a kissless virgin who can't even decipher primary school level English.

I'm gonna go play Windwaker now. Make sure to finish your homework before your Mom's Boyfriend tucks you in tonight.

>>28380953
Ok, Butterfree is now a pseudolegendary

Because apparently patterns do not apply

>>28384713
This asshurt tho

>>28384478
I guess to answer OP's question, the 580 guys have other stuff to tie them to the legendary moniker besides raw strength, like having an actual legend behind them

Yeah they're not legendary in any real sense, the most story any of them receive is that they're assholes and have epic fits of rage, but so does Primape

>>28384809
Scratch that, Gyarados fits better than Primape

>>28384478
Gee you'd think someone like Metagross who's 3-stage and gets a fucking one of a kind mega evolution would be considered legendary or at least something close enough to be a God

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>>28384713
>ohshit better pussy out of this argument
>b-but i'm still the cool guy though!

At least accept your defeat like a man, but then again you're a Widowmaker player so I'm not too surprised.

>>28380953
>being this assblasted no one cares about Shitking
You probably like Harambe memes too you nigger lover