How would you like to see Arceus buffed in the DP remakes? It's

Give it 1000 arms.

>>28324793
What about being able to mega evolve while it knows judgement, while keeping multitype

It learns punching moves.

>>28324793

Arceus is suppose have a thousands arms.

>>28324820
Or a primal reversion while knowing judgement

>>28324820
Not really good enough to dethrone fug.

This can run Life Orb STAB Ice Beam and is fast enough to one shot it.

Arceus has its power restricting belt taken off and unleashes his true power, no mega required

>>28324924
That's why it's not a mega, but a primal.

It's regaining it's old true power ala primal reversion.

Omnitype is way too broken, it gives you like 8 immunites and is only weak to rock while double and triple resisting most attacks.

Protean

It's pretty easy to break it, 140 across the board wouldn't do the job. Just give it the most broken ability in the game, stance change.

Sword mode(upon using any attack)
120/210/70/210/70/140

Shield mode(upon being attacked)
120/70/210/70/210/140

Hypothetically this would create a 120/210/210/210/210/210/140 Pokemon. Or a 1,100 BST Pokemon. Mega cover legendaries and Mewtwo cap at 780, and it's way better than Arceus' potential cap of 820.

>>28324982
>god of all pokemon
>dies to sneaky pebbles

>>28325036
>fossils disprove god

rocks>god

>>28324996
Not broken enough, Omnitype is Protean but with a billion immunities, resistances, and only 1 weakness.

>>28324982
The only thing that could be more broken than mega fug

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>>28324844
>>28324818
>>28324837
>>28324793
Something like this

Suggestion: erase megas and stop this mega speculation bullshit.
It's so childish.

Make it mega evolve with a new plate that multiplies the power of all move types, and then give it an ability that's a variant of Protean, boom.

>>28324793
buff the HP as well, since 100% Zygarde shows Gamefreak is willing to change base HP during a fight now

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>>28324793
>god of pokemon
Give it 230 in every stat, fuck balance.

Immunities: Normal, Ghost, Dragon, Electric, Ground, Fighting, Poison, Psychic

1/16 Resist: Bug, Grass

1/2 Resist: Steel, Dark

Normal Damage: Flying, Fire, Water, Ice, Fairy

x2 Weak: Rock

All extreme killer Arceus would run stone edge over shadow claw. Interestingly, it hard counters giratina, chansey, and sableye with complete status immunity, dragon, normal, ground, ghost immunities, and amazing bulk. It trumps mega fug with the sheer number of sets it can run simultaneously. Literally not a single safe switch-in.

>muh primals
>people still haven't realized it's one off gimmick for groudon and kyogre

haha yeah remember all those extra origin forme and fusion pokemon they added?

>>28324996
>Primal form
>protean
>120/150/120/150/120/160

>>28325066

With a thousands arms.

>>28325055
kek

Ultra Arceus with a special Type with resistances to everything and stab for everything, under control of Cyrus in a Delta Episode-esque postgame story with the only way to stop it to be Mega Type: Null which will Null out UA's Type

>>28324793
>that overdesigned shit
How is the fucker supposed to walk?

>>28325117
Also can't be burned, frozen, spored, paralyzed, poisoned(except by salandit), hurt by hail, hurt by sand, or trapped.

>>28325179
It flies.

>>28325014
For the sake of things, if you wanted we could even bump it to 1200 BST for flavor reasons and make it a psuedo-logical version of >>28325112

120/230/30/230/30/180
120/30/230/30/230/180

Only speed ties with Deoxys-s, can't buff it more than that because all the 30's are good for my autism

>>28324793
give it an ability that is protean, which also changes its type to resist the incoming attacks

there, completely broken

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>>28324924

We haven't seen Arceus true power yet

>>28325117
>complete status immunity
i don't think it is immune to sleep, and it can still be frozen by tri attack or secret power

>>28325179
It rewrites the laws of the universe to no longer need to walk.

It makes ice hot and fire cool.

It makes marshmallows as hard as diamonds.

It makes you not gay.

>>28324793
No, enough power creep. Ray's strength was a mistake in the first place. Hoenn is better than Sinnoh anyway, might as well leave megafug as the strongest

Make it light type desu.

>>28325233
It's immune to sleep powder at least, but it can't be frozen by tri-attack.

>>28324793
Make it the most broken thing in pokemon.
Its God just banned it from multiplayer play who cares if we can only enjoy this mon in story or with friends.

>>28324793
A few ways

The first is the OP's way, though instead of being treated as all types at once, Omnitype would simply be Protean+. Basically Protean but with an added +20% damage boost to all moves, so it's almost as if it's always holding a Plate, though an actual Plate or other items can change this.

The second is have Omnitype act as an auto Conversion. It would be a little random, but Arceus's primary type could automatically change to the type of the first move in its moveset, and its secondary type would automatically change to an advantageous type against the opponent.
For example:
Send Arceus in against Xerneas and it Primal Reversion/Mega Evolves. Arceus's first move is, for example's sake, Judgment while holding an Earth Plate. Arceus gains a Ground type because of this, but then it adds a Steel type since it beats Xerneas's Fairy type. Arceus's primary type will always be in accordance to the first move in its moveset, but its secondary type will always differ depending on its opponent.

The third way. if you want to just be ridiculously broken, is have Arceus's type change before getting hit or when it uses an attack. This would be even more ridiculous, but it could beat Mega Fug. Basically, if it attacks with any move, it will change its type to gain STAB. It has Ice Beam, but no Icicle Plate? It becomes an Ice type when attacking. Then, the opponent tries using Stone Edge. Arceus then changes to a Steel type, softening the blow. Super ridiculous, and essentially guarantees that it will always have STAB and will always be resistant. If you want to stretch it further, it could change to types with immunities, so if your opponent was about to use Close Combat instead, Arceus could change into a Ghost type just for that move just to spite the opponent.

Perhaps these could do?

>>28325235
>No, enough power creep
100% Zygarde has almost as much HP as Chansey.

With much higher defenses.

Power creep will never end.

Give it an op ability with an edgy name

Something like... Dynamic Omniscience. Switches types to resist incoming attacks and get STAB

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>>28324965

But We haven't seen Arceus true power yet.

>>28325233
Can't freeze ice types

>>28325227
Damn that was just a glimpse? I'm afraid to see it just use a little more of its power.

How does Omnitype even work? It sounds so broken.

>>28325254
>>28325319
ah shit i missed this sentence
> In Generation VI onward, Ice-type Pokémon cannot be frozen by any method.
derp

>>28325117
this is glorious. does mega fug (or any other remotely close pokemon) learn a good rock type attack?

>>28325392
All types at once

see
>>28325117
>>28325205

>>28325392
If you have every type at once, you're still weak to Rock.

How would Mold Breaker work with omnitype?

>>28325451
Pdon with Stone Edge

>>28325209
>lowering stats
kill yourself

>>28325482
Either return it to Normal type.

or

Omnitype is immune to Mold Breaker/its clones.

>>28325284
At least it isn't a yugioh power creep

>>28325514
>>28325482
Multitype is presumably unaffected by Mold Breaker (and variants) anyway.

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>>28325353

It still won't be able to defeat Victini.

Victini is unbeatable.

>>28325515
I miss peak Qli
>Scale
>Infinite Search Works
>Shit out a ton of Qli
>Skill Drain ;)
>Vanity's Emptiness ;)
>Soul Drain ;)
>Trap Stun ;)

>>28325233
Alright, virtually immune. Point taken.

>>28325553
You can, doesn't mean you will.

So Omnitype is all moves get stab. Have it meaga/primal revert by knowing the move judgment and have the 100 boost in bst be completely based on Ev's (so if I split it evenly in Att and speed both of those get a 50 point boost)

>>28324793

You know you've been /vp/ too long when your mind saw B and U and assumed the word would be "bullied."

>>28325553
Arceus created that so it must be able to just give itself that power,

>>28324965
>primal
Why go to the past?
Gen IV was about time and space
Instead of summoning his power from the past, he should summon his power from the future

>>28325568
I haven't played YGO in a while. Any Ice Barrier buffs? Have Nekroz been affected at all?

>>28325568
I have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, I only assume you are talking about the first turn in yugioh nowadays

>>28325482
>>28325482
Mold Breaker prevents the ability from reducing damage, not from activating.
If a Pokemon was to change type, the ability would activate, change type, and then the opponent take damage according to type.
If the ability was to cut damage in half, it would take regular damage

>>28325633
I quit after Towers was banned.

I might get back in to play metalfoes, I only like Pendulum decks.

They are what brought me back in.

>>28324793
why not go with the "each Arceus is an arm of the real Arceus" thing and just make mega arceus another Arceus appearing to help out.

>>28325727
The way it is proposed Omnitype doesn't "activate", it just gives Arceus all types at all times. Which would prevent damage, so Mold Breaker would negate it.

>>28324793
Type ???

>>28325778
No, it would be all types at once. Flying Press isn't a Fighting type move that deals double damage to grass/bug/fighting types and ToT doesnt make you take double damage from ghost/dark but immune to normal and resist bug/poison, it just makes you t1/t2/Ghost

>>28325752
>quit after losing crutch
lole smogon must be a bitch too

>>28325778
>>28325932
How about Omnitype makes Arceus's type whatever is super effective against what it is fighting

>>28325619

Arceus didn't.

>>28326012
Towers was the last win condition Qli had after the bans, and then they banned him too to get people to hurry and buy boxes to build new decks.

>>28326062
It created everything

Arceus Genesis forme
170/180/150/180/150/170(1000 total)
Ability: Smite
Changes type to gain STAB on whatever move it is using, ignores the target's ability and any immunities they have. When using the move Judgement, it changes to a type that will yield a super effective hit on the target.

>>28325621
That's some shonen-tier bullshit right there.

I like it.

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>>28326119

Lie.

>>28324793
Taking off the yellow ring will release its limiter
Just like the thing that seals Type:Null's full power which looks like Arceus's rings

>>28326250
Arceus created mew who slowly turned into humans and pokes who created porygon

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>>28326119

Lie.

How could you create your ancestor?

>>28326342
Arceus formed from nothing

>>28326389

No. It didn't.

It came from a egg.

>>28326413
The egg came from nothing

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>>28326325

Arceus didn't create Vanillite.

>>28326429

No. It didn't.

It fell from a Vortex.

>>28326342
>>28326413
>posts Origin Story pic
>didn't even read it
>>28326434
Arceus is responsible for all life on Earth ad the pokeverse

>>28326434
James Turner created Vanillite.

>>28326453

Lie.

Arceus didn't create MUK

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>>28325066
Or this.

>>28326473
>literally created everything
stop baiting

>>28326434
True, that was Giratina's doing

>>28326489

Arceus didn't create Grimer.

>>28326490
Giratina created the antimatter parallel universe

Just give it its own Z-Move that is utterly broken.
Call it Big Bang or something.

>>28326557
Essentially a ohko that never misses and sharply reduces the defense stats of the opponents next Pokemon

>>28326585
>sharply reduces the defense stats of the opponents next Pokemon

>smogon creates a tier above AG

>>28326490
No, Giratina added its own voice when Arceus was singing the world into existence. Giratina selfishly twisted and corrupted Arceus's perfect vision of ice Pokemon into that.

>>28326529

Untrue, Arceus just made him ruler of it.

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>>28326489

Kyogre created the sea.

Not Arceus.

There's more debate in here than an actual theology discussion.

>>28325284

<(sytayshin needid)

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>>28326633

It is the antimatter universe itself.

>>28326585
Also it heals you.

>>28326119
pokedex conjecture based on recorded snippets from sinnoh mythology, nothing concrete

>>28326062
>>28326250
>>28326342
>>28326413
>>28326434
>>28326451
>>28326473
>>28326517
>>28326657
>>28326694
FUCK OFF RICHARD

KILL YOURSELF YOU AUTIST

>>28326715

No thanks, I rather catch Pokémon.

>>28326681
There's a Leddit thread if you google Zygarde 100% base HP with the math.

216 base HP, the 3rd highest in the game.

Why literal gods let themselves get enslaved by 10yo kids.

>Diamond and Pearl remakes

We're at that point now huh?

>>28326958
i can't wait for 2-4 years of SINNOH CONFIRMED

>>28326694
It's not. If it was anything with matter would be annihilated instantly. It's just a world where the laws of physics are distorted, hence Distortion World.

>>28326958
We've outpaced ourselves. Unless Nintendo makes their 3DS successor incompatible with DS games (and presumably 3DS games as well), then you don't need a remake. However, Game Freak needs something to supplement Sun and Moon, and with Z out of the question, it's hard to say if there's going to be a third game.

It's funny, my first game was Diamond. It's going to turn ten this month. I guess it's in GF's best interest to keep the region relevant for the kids born since then.

>>28324793
Don't bother because its an event Pokemon, and strong enough already.

>>28326803
What makes you think it isn't exactly where it wants to be?

>>28326803
story/gameplay segregation senpai

>>28326803
The strongs should rule over the weaks

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>>28326958
>D&P are almost 10 years old

HP leaps back to green if its allowed to survive into red

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>>28324818
>>28325066
>>28326475
So basically, good ol' Avalokitéshvara?

>>28325227
>>28325353
The plates are all part of Arceus in canon, and that's why it changes types. If Arceus were to go back to its original full power it would be all possible types at once.

>>28324793
>Null type

>>28324793
It can now attack 1000 times per turn if it uses a punching move.

>>28325014
You are vastly underestimating what 140 across the board actually means.