>tfw this is real >tfw the last well designed 3rd stage

>>28152554
you spelled Infernape kinda funny.

>>28152554
This is a well-designed Pokémon, you dumb fuck !

>>28152560
>he actually likes Typhlosion

>>28152554
Fuck off, Blaziken was great as the first fire/fighter starter

>>28152560
Literally Emboar tier

>>28152621
>not liking Ganon Pokémon

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>>28152554

>Not liking Tiger Mask
>Not liking Infernape through Delphox

Guys the only bad Fire starter design is Blaziken

>>28152560
Infernape is literally the only well-designed fire-starter.

>>28152554
>being a Typhlosionfag

Words can't describe how much I want you dead right now. Not that anyone would mind.

>>28152560
>there are still people who don't understand Infernape's design based on Sun Wukong
I must've been 11 or so playing that game and I still got it.

>not joining the Grass type master race

>>28152554
>not liking luchalitten

Your opinion does not matter anon. You are irrelevant.

>>28152752
>When Meganium, Shitile, and Chesnaught exist

Be a waterbro instead, there isn't a single bad design. Samurott is kind of questionable, but it's still not bad.

>>28152560
>literally the worst designed fire starter
shittiest taste on /vp/

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>forgetting about based Infernape

>>28152829
>Posting pokemon conquest images
My nigga

>>28152829
Infernape was the reason I restarted my platinum game. I couldn't stand watching this shit.

Infernape > Tora3 > Charizard > Delphox > Typhlosion > Blaziken > Emboar

>>28152703
>having this much of a hateboner for one Pokemon's fanbase
At what age were you diagnosed with autism?

>>28152659
>finding someone else who actually likes Emboar

>>28152889
Did you born with your tongue inside your ass? Bexause you have shit taste.

>>28152943
Shut up you DUMB FUCKING TYPHLOSIONFAG

END YOUR LIFE

>>28152560
Infernape is shit.

>>28152733
You can appreciate the basis for the design while still thinking the design is bad.

>>28152943
>actively calling out people on their shit taste is autism

You must be one of them. Tell me, why do you defend such a bland piece of shit? Did you try being a normie IRL and get rejected?

>>28152554
But OP, it's not real.
Just like Greninja, Roothoot, Emboar, Rhyperior, Ballio and Mimikyu will never be.

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>>28152554
>implying this guy won't be a fire bro like Typhlosion and Blaziken
Holy dick, I can hear how retarded you are.

>>28152554
I'm a bit disappointed that this whole line wasn't based on housecats (flaming hairballs, etc. of litten) but this is still a cool design.

If this is real I'm naming my Litten "Guile" or "Zangief"

>>28152973
>being this mad
>>28153027
>if it's simple it's bad

It's over, my fellow fire bros... I mean I'm fine losing to waterwankers, they've always been worthy rivals, but even fucking grassgays are laughing at us. Can you imagine it? The guys who had ugly fat Venusaur and Chicorita, goddamn Chicorita.

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I cant wait for you faggots to be btfo. Im compiling every single one of these threads in a collage. Ready to get shamed off the face of the earth?

>>28152554
If you hate every fire starter since gen 2, stop being a "fire bro" and use something else

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>>28153087
Yeah, its simple.

Simply bad that is.

>>28152829
Best Fire starter hands down

>>28153144
Slow and steady wins the race. Grass has never had a 10/10, but most of the time the Grass starter is pretty nice.

>>28153079
Blaziken is what started the whole Digimon meme, the beginning of the long fall of firefags.

>>28152554
>typhlosion
>good
Are you saying Quilava jumbo-size is any decent?

anyone who prefers typhlosion over emboar needs to find a different franchise

a boring yellow human vs a giant wrestling boar which lights its punches on fire using its BEARD. absolutely no contest.

>>28153353
Its just fucking retarded johtoddler normalfags, they are a minority

A few months ago someone said it was the worst starter and they went insane for a good 3 days straight causing a huge discussion on fire starters and a rigged strawpoll

Pretty funny if not sad

>>28152680
what about typhlosion

>>28152579
Blaziken barely looks like something from pokemon franchise, ruined Torchic desu.

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>>28152554
I hate this piece of shit so much for ruining Litten. Fuck it and fuck anyone that likes it. Objectively terrible.

@28152554

The fuck is wrong with a dirty fighter? You just want things to get bigger with each evolution?

>>28153459
>not liking Street Fighter tiger man

>>28152554
I like the fake cannon panther design more, the one sleak and elegant, firing those fire balls. Would be the best fire starter and has that simple but effective look. Empoleon x Serperior x Cannin Panther would the most royal starter combo.

It's not real.
There's no proof.

>>28153490
>Haha he's a wrestler so epic!
Fucking NO. Emboar is a wrestler. Can't I just get a fucking cool cheetah or something? Why must almost every Fire starter be based on fighting? What does fire have to do with fighting? And what is up with the 'every Fire type starter must stand up or at least be able to stand up'? Why? Who makes these rules?

>>28153448
Yeah it truly and honestly would fit right in with the rest of the designs in Digimon Frontier or whatever season 4 was called. The power rangers one.

/vp/ always makes fun of "it just gets bigger", but the jump from Combusken to Blaziken is just ridiculous. I'd say it's even worse than Samurott, who always gets flack.

>>28152805
>having this bad taste
Chesnaught is GOAT, Sceptile too.
Fuck you.

>>28153614

Emboar is the pig from Journey to the West. Get this right, people.

>>28153614
you can have a cool cheetah, but it will be a wrestler

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>>28152560
>unironically liking the chimchar line

>>28153614
I just wanted a good housecat Pokemon

>>28152805
>blastoise
>literally digimon: the pokemon: cannon edition
>not questionable
>not a bad design

wew

>>28152805
Waterfags have Greninja.

No self-respecting individual would associate with a clique run by Nurutoadfags.

>>28152554
>Typhlosion
>Well designed
ELEMAYO

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It's depressing how much support this piece of shit gets. vp usually has such good, diverse tastes, yet it seems a decent majority like emboar and litten3 being basically the same design.

>>28152554
It's your lucky day OP, because it's not real

>>28153353
Typhlosion is less human than Emboar. Emboar is fully anthro, Typhlosion is a quadruped with the ability to stand up on two legs.

I'll get over the fact that it isn't anywhere near what I wanted from Litten. I'll get over the fact that it's another humanoid fire starter based on a type of fighter. But those sausage fingers will never not be disgusting

>>28153260
Turtwig, Snivy and Rowlet are 10/10.

>we get our 4th fire/fight
I thought the nightmare was over

>>28153630
It's also clearly based on a wrestler. Tepig has a mask, Pignite has a singlet, Emboar has wrestling pants and gloves. Pokemon can have more than one concept.

>>28153710
>typhlosion is quadruped

and yet it never is in the games, it's always bipedal. funny that.

and no, typhlosion is literally a yellow human. emboar at least looks like a monster.

>ITT there are some autists who just want Litten to evolve to his mom's cat

You guys are no fun.

>>28153631
It's not cool, and it's not a cheetah. It's a man in a costume.

>>28153718
They probably will look better in the official art and model. This gen models look a lot better than most of the art so this hopefully will fix the weird cartoon fingers.

>>28153767
>they are people that are fine with a cat evolving into a human being with a mask on

>>28153800

>What is a Weretiger

>>28153812
Actually yes, what is that

>>28153800

It's a fire-breathing cat. If you want a mom's cat, why don't you train a Meowth?

>>28153767
>there are people who don't understand the appeal in a cool big cat pokemon

>>28153823
>if you wanted rowlet to become an owl, why not just train noctowl?
This is how retarded your argument is

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>>28153616
>I'd say it's even worse than Samurott, who always gets flack.
Samurott suffers from lacking a nostalgia vibe for older fans to comprehend. Blastoise and Blaziken are more inconsistent but get a pass because they existed since the late 90s-early 2000s.

>>28153823
It's a man in a costume.

>>28153843

There's Solgaleo if you want a quadpedal cool big cat

>>28153823
>if you want a wrestler, why don't you train a tepig

>>28152916
>unironically liking any fire/fighting starter after Blaziken
>putting Foxwitch above based typholosion
>being a filthy sinnohbabby
Your tastes are shit go watch yokai.

>>28153755
>typhlosion is literally a yellow human
Holy fuck you must be one ugly, disfigured motherfucker.

>>28153865

Litten is going to be a wrestler. What are (you) trying to get?

>>28153864
Yeah he's not bad. Definitely soothes the sting a little. I really liked the idea of it being your starter though, coming from Litten's design. Having your best bro end up being a big fierce panther/tiger/whatever would be fun as fuck. I don't know about you but I don't really "bond" with legendaries the same way.

>>28153168
BTFO how?

>>28153860
Blastoise is indeed shit but the jump from wartortle is not nearly as big as with Samurott and Blaziken.

>>28152829
Who else still has their OG Infernapes?

I lost my copy of diamond but I've kept my Infernape from Platinum ever since. Currently sat in OR waiting for Sun/Moon to come out.

>>28153860
Samurott would have been fine if it hadn't ruined it's line.
If they had either all been quadrupeds or at least not obviously been bipedal I would almost like him.

>>28152554
>Always liked fire starters
>Unronically liked Delphox and Emboar
>Litten easily the best looking gen 7 starter
>Always loved cats, so it was going to be my starter choice
>Leaks happen
>Litten becomes a literal muscular furry with sausage fingers that came straight out of a low budged kids cartoon in the 90s
>Shoots fire through his dick
>Looks barely like Litten at all
>Another Fire/Fighting

At this point i'm praying for the split evolutions to be real, holy shit Litten deserves better than this shit. Who though this was a good idea?

>>28152659
>not realizing we could have a much better Ganon Pokemon

Also I agree this one is bad, but c'mon, since Typhlosion?
I understand hating on Blaziken, it may look weird for some, but what's wrong with Son Wukong?

>>28153897
Litten could've been a cool big cat rather than another dumb wrestler. I don't understand why you're trying so hard to defend such shit.

>>28153345
I don't know why "It just gets bigger" is even used as a """"valid"""" complaint. It's easily the best type of evolution. If you love its basic form, you're almost surely going to love what it grows into. It's like having a pet that grows, and is the most familiar form of change we know.

A drastic change potentially ends with people hating what the fuck it turned into because of how different it is.

>>28153819

A lot of Asian myths speak of Tigers that become able to walk like men after eating a large number of them or in some cases criminals and their families are cursed into becoming beasts to match the savagery of the acts committed.

>>28153932
Hes a nigger

>>28153921
>shoots fire through his dick
Kekked

>>28153921
I was pretty pumped when it was suggested Litten would become Fire/Ground but if it's just gonna look like another Fire/Fighting then I might not pick fire, for the first time ever. I even stuck with Fire through Emboar, but this shit is getting ridiculous.

>>28153629
Sceptile looks like it has a pine tree in its ass retard

No one with taste likes Shitile

>>28153959

>another

Citation needed. Emboar doesn't even pack any decent signature move that screams wrestling.

Charizard>Blaziken>Litten3>Infernape>Delphox>Emboar>Typhlosion

I never understood Typhlosion fags, what is it in him that you guys find cool? Those stubby limbs, color palette and weird undefined creature face and features just never clicked with me.

>>28153968

Because it's boring from a design standpoint.

>>28153691
It's just a vocal minority. Everyone else fucking hates this abomination.

>>28154038

>everyone

No one wants another mom's cat

>>28154030
Better than an asspull like Blaziken, aka the worst starter ever created.

>>28153691
>vp usually has such good, diverse tastes

lel

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>>28154027

>Generic Western Dragon
>1st place

>>28154038
You guys seem to be the more "vocal" ones

>>28154064
Yeah, another anthromorphic fire starter is where it's at. After all, what else are we going to masturbate to?

>>28154064
I'd rather have another mom's cat than another mom's disfigured furry cosplayer.

You know, it doesn't have to "only get bigger" if it stays a quadrupedal big cat. I feel sorry for people who think "literally Litten, but bigger" is the only solution for that to work to be honest family. There are plenty of directions it could have gone in within that framework. Also, more than anything, it would have been something new and interesting as a starter Pokemon. Luchalitten feels like it's pretty much been done before in the pool of starters.

>>28154030
>starter simply growing larger and more complex but sticking to its first form's basic design is boring
>4/7 fire starters become bipedal fighting guys

>>28154070
>generic monkey

>>28154094
That's because it has been done before. Thrice.

>>28154070
The generic western dragon is a time tested design and loved by all. What's the problem here?

>>28154064
>Not wanting a sleek fire panther pokemon

>>28154090

Every fucking fire starters ends up bipedal. Stop grabbing more (you)s already.

Feel you fire bro, water bro aren't gifted too this gen if they're real, we end up going from clown sea lion to dragqueen

>>28152560
Infernape's design is ace, the rest of his line looks like total shit though.

Only /vp/ hipsters hate Blaziken, prove me wrong.

>>28154133

Pretty much what I felt when my Fennekin evolved into a trap mahou shoujo.

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>>28153918
Samurott saved its line. Dewott is literally stretched out Oshawott with an extra scalchop. Why isn't it designed to bridge the other two like a PROPER MIDDLE STAGE should. You Dewottfags have to be obnoxious furries trying to convince me that Oshawott turned into a mess and not a badass warrior.

>>28154124
Should that be an immutable feature of all fire starters for the rest of time? If anything it's all the more reason to break the mold.

Luchalitten is going to be fire/fight, and statwise a little faster Emboar, with some of that HP into Def.

>>28152554
>implying typhlosion was well designed

>implying fire fighting is bad

>>28154090
There are regular cats for you to masturbate to anon,

>>28152829
King of the fire fighting

>>28154165
Samurott is a mess, stop getting mad that your bro gets (rightfully) shitted on

>>28154124
And that's the problem. More of the same old shit we've already seen the last 6 gens.

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Any other Firebros going to skip Litten and just choose Salandit as their fire Pokemon instead?

>>28154105

>Growing wings and two horns
>Complex

Nope. Gen 3 and on are better examples of that concept. Take Torchic to Blaziken for example. Over the course of its growth, it basically says fuck flying and starts developing its legs and and wings to defend itself.

>>28153459
Litten is a cute kitty i like litten i sure as hell would pick it over rowlet and POOPlio

>>28154208
There's only 5 quadruped starters and none of them are popular, therefore, they're all utter garbage.

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>>28152554
>>28153459
>>28153921
Your tears only make me like luchabro even more

>>28154207
>"no ur wrong"

>>28154218
I admit Salandit makes me want to skip the fire starter. Probably pick Rowlett now.
Hopefully it has two more stages, and goes Nidoking esque.

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All you haters will come crawling back to based Lucha Litten once it proves to be viable competitively anyway so STFU. This is literally Greninja 2.0.

>>28154238

Man, I'm still waiting for my hope that luchalitten will be meta just to spite them more.

inb4 starter being meta. There is that frog who gets a HA unique to him and another pokemon

>>28153616
>but the jump from Combusken to Blaziken is just ridiculous.
>Small armless chicken becomes a literally cock shaped chicken who becomes a big ass rooster with defined claws instead of proper wings
?

>>28154165
>samurott saved its line

Implyijg samurott is/was good

>>28154238
>Stupid fucking illiterate islander has taste this shit

Not surprised desu

>>28154265
>implying I give a single fuck about competitive
OK

>>28154248
Dewott will always be more liked than shitty Samurott, stay mad.

>>28154207

Not even him but Samurott is a great design and makes for a good compliment to Dewott's Samurai design by showing him evolving into a wisened warlord.

>>28154265
Exept Greninja actually looks decent

and also
>Thinking everyone gives a shit about the meta
>Thinking being viable competitively justifies a absolute garbage design

>>28154289

>not enjoying half of point of the game

So what's the point of you collecting pokemon for? To masturbate to as you said?

>>28153912
Blastoise is great, why don't you fuck off with your shit taste.

>>28154312
>"i'm right and youre wrong"
>"stay mad xdd"

>Pokemon with """""""clothes"""""""

This shit is an automatic red flag for me. If it looked more like a were-beast maybe I'd have liked it but no, they had to give it fucking pants and a belt for some reason.

>>28154325

>a frog with tongue for scarf looks anything but retarded

That's shit taste and you know it.

>>28154339
Isn't that literally all the arguments in this thread?

>>28152554

I'm in the camp that believes the leaks are real and I'm really hoping he's Fire/Dark. The design screams boisterous villain and it's such a good motif. Plus unlike Greninja, he actually looks like a Dark type.

>>28154367
And, surprisingly, it still looks much better than Luchalitten

>>28154332
lolwut

>>28154325
Yeah right. Greninja was "the worst shit" before release.

>>28154362
What kind of fucking pants are you seeing?

>>28154389
Retarded shitflinging will always be more popular than civil and rational arguments fucking reasonablefag, stay fucking mad

>>28152554
The only "bad" fire starter is Emboar, and even that's arguable.

Charizard, Typhlosion, Blaziken, Infernape, and Delphox are all fantastix designs.

>>28154396
The only saving grace is that it's Fire/Dark and not actually a fourth Fire/Fighting, even if it fits right in with the three Fire/Fightings.

>>28153774
>missing the point

i'm saying if you want a cool cheetah it will be a wrestler. not that litten3 is a cheetah.

>>28154403
Are you retarded?

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>>28154312
Japan says otherwise. Samurott got ranked 123 in the 720 Election. Dewott is 322. Get BTFO

>>28152554

>a fucking weasel
>well designed

>>28154165
>You Dewottfags have to be obnoxious furries
THIS THIS THIS THIS

>>28154435
japan always had quirktacular taste, also iirc that poll wasn't strictly about popularity

>>28154435
> Milotic is more popular than Gyarados
> All these cute and elegant Pokemon being super high

Once again proving Japan to have superior taste

>>28154435
>Archeops ranked 32
>best ranked fossilmon
>Gamefreak still just treats it like shit

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>>28154336
Blastoise would've been perfect if there was any indication Wartortle would grow cannons. Blastoise is blessed for being a Gen 1 mascot. As its one of the most inconstant designs in the franchise.

>>28154492
not with lando in the top 50

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>>28154435
>rhyperior that high

>>28153860
Blastoise has the fact that each stage of its line is interesting and has its own quirk, though. Samurott lacks that.

>>28154424
No, the one seeing the pants is.

>>28154595
No, the one not seeing the pants is.

>>28154165

>Why isn't it designed to bridge the other two like a PROPER MIDDLE STAGE should

Because Samurott is the improper evo you fucking retard.

http://www.pokebeach.com/2010/09/pokemon-peer-interview-translations

>Oomura: I said, “How about a sea otter for the Water-type?” But if a sea otter were to evolve, what would it become? That’s where I hit a wall. Eventually I said that if a sea otter was to evolve, it would transform into something completely different.

>>28154435
>Carvanha and Vigoroth in the bottom tier
>Elgyem, Kriketot and Honedge that far down
Wow, that's some shit fucking taste, right there.

>>28154611
No, certainly the one seeing them. If you see them it means Luxray is also wearing pants.

why do people complain that samurott is different from oshawott when oshawott is universally panned as being an awful design. if anything samurott is the best case scenario

>>28154275
Blaziken doesn't look like a rooster at all.

>>28154680
Please tell me how it doesn't.

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>>28154680
Blaziken is a shamo with arms

>>28154653
No it doesn't, the black fur on Luxray's ass looks nothing like pants.

Wrestlecat's bottom half was clearly meant to evoke spandex. You're just retarded pal.

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>>28154613
If Samurott was meant to look different from Oshawott why didn't they bother tweaking Dewott's design after Samurott's design was finalized? Its the freaking MIDDLE STAGE THAT IS GOING TO BRIDGE A DRASTIC JUMP.

>the improper evo
The idea Oshawott had is kept in the final stage, so I disagree.

>>28154757
to make it more surprising. game freak (and game devs in general) like to surprise people

>>28152670
>liking another fire/fighting
>b-but its gonna be fire/dark!
luchapussies are retarded

>>28154757
Why did it become quadruped though, that's literally going backwards in evolution. Also what kind of samurai crawls on all fours.

>>28154863
A shamed one

orz

>>28154857
>Implying fire/fighting is bad

Better than it being single typed, desu. Monotype starters are usually trash

>>28154960
Serperior is OU desu senpai

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>>28154863
>that's literally going backwards in evolution.
Its not. You do realize otters are one of the few four-legged animals that use their hands right?

>>28155031

>citation needed

>>28154863
>Also what kind of samurai crawls on all fours.
People seem to forget that Pokemon can swim just with their tail or legs, and that Samurott is a fucking aquatic creature. On land is weaker but in water it has 3 swords that can use at once.

>>28153873
>liking mexican chicken with pubes
end yourself

Blaziken and Delphox are the only good fire starters, though Charizard and Typhlosion are acceptable to fill a hole on teams

>>28155282
I can't take the opinion of someone who consider Delphox a good design seriously, sorry

>>28154450
>th-the popularity poll isn't about popularity!
Fuck off.

>>28154362
>jynx
>Machoke/champ
>Hitmonlee

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>>28152554
>>28152670
>>28153079
>>28154238
>Trying this hard

>>28155282
Typhlosion is one dimensional as fuck. Why use an offensive Fire type with non-existent coverage? Its complete garbage.

>>28152829
I don't understand why people call it shit. It's genuinely a good design aside from the extra bits of gold.

>>28154450
i mean it was literally called "the most popular pokemon contest" by the pokemon company.

>>28155559
>aside from the extra bits of gold
The gold is supposed to give the design an oriental/Chinese vibe for being inspired by a character from a Chinese novel.

>>28155164
Are you just mad because your starter is basically a cheap knock off of blaziken that no one actually likes or uses outside of its tiny fan base?

>>28157835
People only use Blaziken because of its ability and mega, during gen IV Infernape was the better Blaziken.

>>28152554
It is gonna be my first time to box starter right away if these are real.

>>28155031
The key word here is usually

>>28152733
and muk is good because is based on a grimer

>>28153860
Doesn't blink enough times to come from crystal

>>28154421
I don't want a fucking wrestler.

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>>28152554
THIS JUST IN, /VP/ CHOOSES REAL LEAKS!!!

>>28155559
They're salty waterfags that got their fatass mons raped by an Infernape with Grass Knot.

>>28158623
game freak doesn't care what you want. if you want a cheetah it has to be a wrestler

>>28152554
Infernape is solid, and Blaziken's Mega just about saves it. Emboar is the best looking Unova starter too, although that's not really saying much and I still think it's pretty shit. Delphox was trash though.

>>28152554
There has never been a well designed third stage fire starter, going all the way back to the noodle armed "dragon" with tiny cardboard wings.