Now that the dust has settled.. Which set was ultimately better

ORAS

end of it.

/thread

>>28116191
ORAS had less pandering but butchered the post-game.

>>28116191
ORAS was bad as a remake, but it was an average game alone, and way better than XY.

>>28116239
>Threading your own post

Not how it works newfag.

>>28116262

>>28116260
Shut up cunt

>>28116332
Ooh. what a crass retort. is insulting people really the first thing you do when they simply correct you? How about simply admitting to your mistake and moving on?

Learn some manners child. Just because you're on 4chan doesn't mean you need to perpetuate the stereotype that everyone here is a juvenile "manchild" who can't take even the slightest hint of critisism.

X/Y

I never liked R/S and I didn't feel that OR/AS did much to improve them. Overall too easy and felt too rushed. It's the little things that annoyed me about OR/AS.

X/Y had a new region which I felt was pretty nice, had trainer customization and a lot of other things going for it. I liked X/Y more than I liked B/W to be honest.

XY at least was new in places.

>>28116528
>>28116568

>X/Y had interesting places

Too bad it was overshadowed by HEY MR. TRAINER, COME MEET US ON ROUTE 7 AND STUDY MEGA EVOLUTION, OH AND SYCAMORE HAS A GEN ONE STARTER FOR YOU, AND SKATER CHICK HAS A LUCARIO, YOU WANT THEM DON'T YOU? NO? TOO BAD!

>>28116395
It's weird, I tried to troll you but you just ended trolling me

X/Y

It's not even close.

>>28116601
Just box and release them you autist.

>>28116191

>now that the dust has settled

Stop saying this

>>28116191
ok
just caught groudon and got the 8th badge in OR. Now what?

>>28116793
Pokemon league....

Duh

Is this your first pokemon game?

>>28116191
ORAS, even with the smaller Dev time

Fun fact, ORAS did an overhaul of the battle tower clone where X and Y pulled many trainers classes/names/sets straight from the Subway

>>28116672

You don't understand game design

>>28116191
ORAS
You can finally catch a good chunk of the legendaries in game.

>>28116816
You don't understand "BOX" and "RELEASE THEM"

>>28116672
It's annoying because it's a literal plot point of the game to go get them

>>28116191
Both were awful. ORAS was a disgrace to R/S/E and X and Y were just plain terrible.

>>28116836
So?

>>28116191
ORAS

>>28116854
That's very frustrating and annoying to be stopped in your tracks to be told to take a Pokemon.

Who cares if you use it or not. If you were to use them like the game wants you to become overpowered. It's not well made

>>28116892
*go out of your way for a Pokemon. Not even like a blockage like the Snorlax

They just tell you, hey come over hear and I'll tell you about this Pokemon then you can take it. Wasting time you could be having fun

X/Y because the story on pokemon games are always too kiddy to keep my interest. I felt the gameplay and design was better than ORAS.

I'm biased though, the original Ruby and Sapphire were the only pokemon games that bored me into not finishing them until years later.

>>28116892
It wasn't frustrating or annoying at all.
It's a pokemon game. I expect to catch pokemon as well as be handed pokemon.

And yes, they usually are good pokemon to help out. Not everyone wants to grind their super special PU mon for hours. Some people just want to blast through the game to get to post game.

If you're not one of those people BOX AND RELEASE.

Stop whining like it's some grand mistake. You're just autistic about it.

>>28116191
I have to give it to ORAS. I don't completely dislike XY but it was completely average in most aspects. My favorite things about it was customization, amie, and some of the new mons. On the other hand, I liked the characters, region, and soundtrack much more in ORAS.

>>28116912
But I do have fun getting new pokemon.

So your argument is invalid.

>>28116833

>Just make up your own game and don't complain about the shit decisions made by developers

Ok, after that I'll watch The Room and take LSD and make up my own story so I don't have to complain about it

I enjoy both of them a lot. I enjoy them as much as the older games, although for slightly different reasons.

XY
easy

>>28116986
The only shit decision was your parents not taking a u-turn towards the clinic.

>>28116191
X/Y

OR/AS was a mistake.

>>28116986
I didn't know people this retarded were allowed near computers

>>28116191
XY
-A fresh new region based on France, even the OST has European origin
-Trainer Customization is a nice touch
-Season might got removed, but there are differents season across the region
-Pokemon mounts and Roller Skates are a nice alternative to Bikes and Running Shoes


ORAS
-New megas not obtainable in Kalos
-DexNav is an improved PokéRadar AND it let's you to choose the Pokemon you want to find in the wild
-Eon Flute (aka Soaring) let's you to use Fly without go to any PC and replace a Pokemon of your team with a Fly HM Slave, just press Y, and select the item
-Improved Post-Game League that makes all members of E4 to have Megas too
-Diving, a nice feature that got fully removed on Gen 4 and that was slighty added on Gen 5 is back, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY BATTLE TRAINERS UNDERWATER!

Veredict: I want to like XY because is a new region with new characters and Pokemon that could be better if it had a third version, but ORAS is technically the superior game

XY: 7/10 never played the game but I at least saw many playthroughs
ORAS: 7.5/10

X/Y. I know many players would continue playing X/Y, if GameFreak patched the games to keep it updated with ORAS.

>>28117065
>reviewing a game you haven't played

I didn't know this level of autism existed.

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>>28116833

You dont understand their points at all.

They're not saying its a chore to accept the pokemon, its the fact the plot revolves around it.

>Route 1
>meet up with friends
>Route 2
>Friends tag along and team up with you and show you where to find things
>Route 3
>Friends go seperate ways FINALLY leaving you alone untill sycamores twins show up and tell you to follow them to lumiose.
>Get to lumiose
>See this cool city? But first go see sycamore
>See sycamore
>HEY TRAINER, STUDY MEGA EVOLUTION FOR ME, ALSO THIS IS LYSANDRE, HE'S AWESOME.
>Given kanto starter and emga ring
>RESEARCH MEGA EVOLUTION FOR ME, BUT THESE THREE POKEMON ARE ALL YOU'LL GET FOR NOW, SO USE THEM
>Try to explore lumiose
>Its all sectioned off because lol power outage
>have to fight Korrina's fucking llucario 3 times barring the gym batttle
>YOU ARE SUCH GOOD FRIENDS, TAKE MY LUCARIO PLS
>Drag me all the way to the stupid tower just to fight her lucario AGAIN.
>still can't explore anything at my own leisure like any other decent region

The problem with kalos is it just exists. you don't get to do anything, go anywhere cool ebcause the plot literally drags you around by the hand instead of letting you figure things out yourself. Even the fucking elite four tells you whos who and what they're weak to.

>>28116191
XY

>>28117097
And ORAS didn't do that?

Or are you forgetting the whole island bit with Lati@s?

>>28116956
From a design point it's a very flawed system. Take BW's monkey's they help you for the first gym, but after that their shit

>>28117065
>I haven't played it but i watched it so i know all about

OPINION.
FUCKING.
DISCARDED.

Back to youtube with you letsplayer watching scum.

>>28116191
ORAS
I actually still play the postgame.
I go to XY sometimes, but not nearly as much.

>>28117124
Yeah, they both did. That's why we hate Gen 6

>>28116973
>I like it so I'm right

>>28117144
But you did the exact same shit except the opposite point of view...

>They just tell you, hey come over hear and I'll tell you about this Pokemon then you can take it. Wasting time you could be having fun

>>28117190
If you say I like it that's not an argument.

There's a reason X and Y have the longest speed run times. Because how much people stop you in your tracks

The shittiest part about X/Y was not being able to use the circle pad to move around without equipping those fucking rollerskates or the itemfinder to circumvent that.

>>28116191
ORAS is the better game, it just gets more flak because it's a lackluster remake.

>>28116191
ORAS is slightly better.
The only think that truly bother me is lack of customization. But ORAs still better, the daily "gameplay" is better(base/updated/more things to do)

>>28116239
Objectively wrong.

You can't /thread your own post, faggot.

>>28117252
This. It's an average game with high expectations that it failed to reach miserably

>>28117097
I hope you fags are ready for more of this in S/M. It's the direction Nintendo franchises have been moving in for a while now.

>>28117277
Gen 5's exp system. They can't be that bad level wise at least

This.

I am literally Lvl 75 at the elite four right now and didnt use the shitty EXP share.

The level scaling in X/Y is fucking awful.

>>28117311
Who?

>>28117311
Are you only using one pokemon?

I've gone through XY with the exp share off and a full team of 6 in all of my runs and I've never been overleveled.

>>28116601
>implying gift pokemon are bad

>>28117360
Nope. Fought every single trainer though.

Malamar - 77
Gourgeist - 75
Clawitzer - 72
Noivern - 73
Heliolisk - 72
Avalugg - 74

>>28117093
>>28117128
1-I'm not a Youtuber
2-I actually own AS and soon I'll get Y version, so while waiting for the non-existant Z version I learned many things about XY, like: on Gym Leaders, E4 and Diantha Battle Chateau rematches they actually use competitive sets, but the writs fuck their movesets and the trainers use instead level up movesets.

X/Y because it's Gen 6. It introduced some interesting new features. Kalos is a new region, Fairy is a new type and mega evolutions were new.

ORAS shouldn't even exist. It introduces nothing except Mega Fug and minor QOL like Dexnav while being strictly worse than the already divisive Emerald. Thus there's no point in playing ORAS, ever.

ORAS is a shit remake but by virtue of coming after X/Y, it had more shit to do in it so its better.

>>28117387
>implying people making you go out of your way for Pokemon that you can't reject is good

>>28117388
Do all your mons have the exp buff from Amie?

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>>28117402
>Diantha Battle Chateau rematches they actually use competitive sets

Is this bait? If you use a writ of challenge they just become level up sets. GF didn't give a fuck about the games

>>28117402
And?

It doesn't change the fact you literally tried to pass yourself off as an expert you know nothing about.

>I watched it tho

Pokemon is a game not a movie, unless you've experienced it, you don't know shit. And if your "Experiences" are based on whacky personalities going "OMG HOW DO I LEDGE JUMP LOL!" then they aren't YOUR experiences.

Getting sick and tired of kids trying to one up us because "X did it, so it can't be that hard! you jsut have to do this" acting like they've ACTUALLY done it when all they did is watch a shitty letsplayer.

Things are easier said then done.

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>Complaining about the difficulty
>In fucking Pokémon

There are romhacks for this y'know

OR/AS has more play time with the post-national Dex system, but I ultimately enjoyed X/Y more. Both were jokingly easy, but I had a lot more fun in X after I restricted myself to only need Pokemon (thus no mega-evo) and no EXP-share.

>>28117439
Amie and constantly rotating the lucky egg depending on the battle.

>>28117291
>Gen 5's exp system.
OH NO.
ABSOLUTELY NOT.
NO NO NO.
I REFUSE I OBJECT I DISAGREE.
NEVER AGAIN.

>>28117499
*new

>>28117521
>Le gen 5 is bad boogeyman

The Exp system is no different from 3/4 you tard.

>>28117521
why?

>>28117442
Well... those aren't competitive movesets... but at least aren't level up movesets...

>>28117521
>making over leveling Pokemon easy
Good
>helping weaker Pokemon grow
Bad

Whatever you say anon. Here's your (you)

ORAS had everything XY had and then some.
This isn't really debate worthy.

>>28117572
Look here

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Diantha#Battle_Chateau_-_Black_Writ_of_Challenge

And here

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Gardevoir_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Learnset

>>28116191
XY
Both are mediocre but I don't think I enjoyed a single second of playing ORAS.

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>>28117387
They are if they're things I already have, AND they force me to go out of my way to take. Thats no longer considered a gift anon, thats flat out rape.

If I wanted another fucking charizard i'd play gen 1. I'm tired of gen 1 pandering because nothing prevents you from playing the originals. people act like they've come and gone, or they're so dated you can't play them anymore. Hell, We even have FR/LG.

I buy your new gens nintendo because i'm interested in NEW things, not nostalgia that i've already gone through 5 times over in the past 20 fucking years.

>>28117606
I know, if you see no Writ of Chalenge and Diantha's Team they g ave the same moveset

>>28117500
That's the problem then. I left Amie and the Lucky Egg alone and in all of my playthroughs I've ended up around 5~10 levels under leveled by the time I got to the Elite 4. Victory Road was actually a pain in the ass for me because I would get 1 or 2 members of my team fainted almost every battle.

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Is this even a serious question? ORAS.

+side content like secret bases / contests
+DexNav is amazing
+move tutors
+better breeding
+more megas/ no version exclusive megas
+Delta Episode > Looker Sidequest
+More Legendaries to catch

-good looking environments / fresh region (Kalos is great, they didn't do a good job revamping Hoenn)
-fashion simulator
-Friend Safari (dex nav is better anyway)

Also, Kalos had just too many Pokemon in the regional dex, which is a weird thing to say. In this sense, it felt less like a coherent region and more like a series of places you could catch things. I think more variety is great but so many species of Pokemon were "catch it on this route and never again". DexNav was a great solution to this issue because we got both a more realistic regional ecosystem AND diversity.

>>28117046
>>28117022

>I'm not intelligent enough to explain myself lel XD

>>28117144
>we

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>>28117604
Except for new content, you mean?

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>>28117639
>which pokemon do you want to send to the box for ________

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>>28117707

>>28117708
A majority of 4chin /vp/

That's why most people here shit on both

>>28117709
There isn't a single memorable town the broke the mold in X/Y outside lumiose, and they made you re-visit it so much that you got sick of it.

All the other towns are either carbon copies of pre-existing ones, or just too bland and dull to really care about. nothing stuck out in any of them. Maybe anistar with its fuck huge crystal, but thats about it.

>>28117724
Well I'm wrong. Coincidences happen

>>28116191
XY, just in my opinion.

I really liked RSE but something about how ORAS's maps translation into 3D seemed really unnatural and bland to me. The environments seemed too geometric, I wish they would have tweaked the maps slightly to make them more natural looking.

I didn't get through the entire game, though, so I might try again just to see the postgame material. I hear it's above average.

People grew to like X/Y for the wrong reasons.

Pokemon isn't a fucking fashion simulator, its about as bad as HGSS fags who hail the game strictly because it had following pokemon. All these cosmetics are just that, purely cosmetic and should not be points to judge the game on.

Have you ever met a single person who said:
>Kalos is the best region
>Kalos has the best pokemon
>Kalos has the best gym leaders?
>I love Team Flare!
>Fairy type is my favorite!

Didn't think so. it's always

>Look at my Q2P2T brown trainer in revealing clothes, isn't she kawaii?!

Disgusting.

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>>28117856
> Stop having fun the wrong way! There's only one way to enjoy this children's game!

>>28117677
>Delta Episode
Was pure ass and the worst part is that you need to complete it if you want to unlock Battle Resort FOR NO FUCKING REASON.

>More Legendaries to catch
Mirage spots are shit, laziest way to implement legendaries.

>>28117856
>People grew to like X/Y
Funny joke.

>>28117775
>Opinions

X/Y had a lot of new content. That is a FACT.

ORAS had barely any new content. That is a FACT.

Learn to argue properly. Your opinions mean nothing to me or anyone else.

>>28117856
What do you mean by grew to dislike?

>>28117906
>X/Y had a lot of new content. That is a FACT.

What, megas and faries? two things isn't a lot anon.

>>28117906
That's true they had content, that didn't mean it was good/memorable

>>28117931
trainer customization and wonder trade were pretty great imho

>>28117966
I think a better way to describe a game's worth is how unique it is, yeah throw were great features, but ORAS has it and SM will have it too (I hope)

>>28116191
I think I had more fun with XY overall purely because they were new.
As remakes ORAS added absolutely nothing, I felt like I would have just been better off replaying Emerald.

>>28117966
>Trainer customization
Go play dress up in style savvy, it wasn't needed for 5 previous generations, and all it does it destroy the "iconic" design for its gen. People don't remember Red as "The pokemon trainer" they know him as red. Would they know that was red if he was suddenly black, had dreads, and wore an orange hawaiian shirt with flip flops? No.
>Wonder trade
If you like luvdisc i guess.

>>28117951
Doesn't matter. In four years X/Y will remembered as the gen that actually gave us shit while ORAS will never be played by anyone ever again. Even HG/SS had some unique things going for it aside from being really good.

>>28118042
That's true, but by then, they won't be able to use a lot of the features making them dull to replay.

>>28117982
ORAS had customization?

>>28118064
Wonder trade, but SM having customization is confirmed

>>28117545
>>28117577
>no different than gen3/4
>literally is different than 3/4
>muh helping weak pokemon grow
>too stupid to do that in earlier generations even though they literally teach you how
literally socialism

>>28117554
Because it really doesn't do anything except making leveling up even more tedious than it used to be.
Most of your pokemon will be stuck a few levels above the wild pokemon in a given area, and unless you harvest Audino souls all day you won't escape from that pit.
And good luck trying to get that special team to level 100.
Also the "you can quickly train weak pokemon" is useless because by the time it is strong enough you don't need it anymore except for making Juniper happy.

>>28118168
Old exp is everyone gets everything equally

Gen 5 is, if you work harder against a higher level for, you're reworded with higher exp.

Checkmate atheists

>>28117639
this guy gets it

>>28117677
dex nav made the game feel alive. even if you didnt bother with it, just the random tails when you walked by added a lot to the experience.

The biggest problem with X/Y isn't even being adressed here.

X/Y would have been fine had GF decided to give our Gen 6 starters Megas. They want to push this new mega evolution so hard, yet the pokemon we started with don't get mega formes? And yet only a handful of accesible pokemon at the time even got them.

But the biggest offense, is instead of giving us megas, they go out of their way to give us the kanto starters STRICTLY. because they HAVE Mega evolutions.

Sycamore is basically saying, "Throw away those old pokemon I gave you, and take these kanto starters instead, because they can mega evolve and I want you to research it.

Which is fucking dumb.

>>28118234
Old exp is same reward for same job.

Gen 5 exp is free welfare for shit mons and taxation of good mons. Literally socialism

>>28118459
I though socialism was everyone was treated equal anon

>>28116601

It was definitely hand-holdy and didn't let you explore much, but the areas themselves were good. Coumarine Town and Floccesy Ranch were really nice.

>>28118486
>I though socialism was everyone was treated equal
Yeah, but some are more equal than others.

>>28118371
This. Considering how few new pokemon were introduced and how bloated the kalos dex is, we didn't need old mons overshadowing them even more.

>Here's this new feature.
>New mons? nope sorry, they can't use it. Use the old ones instead to try it out, please.

I only used mega Lucario because I already had caught a Riolu (first time using Lucario too). The one they gave me was boxed inmediately just like Lapras, Snorlax and the Kanto starter.

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>>28118496
>Flocessy ranch

Thats B/W2

See, even YOU forgot the places. How do you defend THAT?

>>28117856
This, I enjoyed customization too but a lot of people seem to defend XY purely based on that or the fact that it had new content (not on whether the new content was actually good).

>>28117892
Oh no, it's TF2 all over again.

ORAS, and only because I prefer the Hoenn region over Kalos.

>>28118665
This is why I'd much rather have only new Pokemon available to find pre-national dex ala BW.
I never did find a Carbink in the Reflection Cave. i had to use GTS to get it for my living dex.

>>28120918
>This is why I'd much rather have only new Pokemon available to find pre-national dex ala BW.

Same here. Unfortunately, that requires a large number of new pokemon, and it seems that GF is afraid of the dex increasing so fast.

>I never did find a Carbink in the Reflection Cave. i had to use GTS to get it for my living dex.
I was kinda autistic about this and never left a place until I was sure I had caught all or at least almost all the wild pokemon available there. But it sucked because the dex didn't have any feature like in BW2 or ORAS to tell you about it. GF and their love for removing useful features.

>>28117639
Holy fuck this

>>28116191
Great I can pick between poop or shit!
Wonder which one I should pick

>>28118915

Oh, I meant the Baa de Mer Ranch. Flocessy Ranch is a nice name though.

>>28117856

I know loads of people who's favorite type is Fairy.

I think the problem with X/Y is that they were taking a big chance on the move to 3D and so had to result to massive Gen I pandering to not scare people with too much change. It's hard to see it now because 3D is normal to us, but at the time it was a big step not many people were willing to take. A lot of people complained it was on the 3DS too, which felt like a gimmick console at the time and most couldn't see why they should buy a new console (I don't know why they felt this way, it was going to happen at somepoint).

I feel the biggest thing X/Y lacked was a nice, rich lore. Mega evolution still hasn't really been explained and it's clear that there's no intention to explain it further as its become an accepted game mechanic. Team Flare and the 1000 year war never really made much sense either.

One thing previous Gens had that X/Y didn't was a sense of worldbuilding, Kalos is a great region and you can tell each town and city has its own unique stuff, but none of the NPCs really made you believe it. If there was a Pokeball factory in a city in Johto, all the NPCs would be talking about it - you'd hear some family talking about how the Dad works there or something, but in Laverre nobody mentions it at all.

And the fact that the legendaries are distributed online instead of having actual in-game events to reach them. It's madness considering that the power station door is locked and yet it's looking more certain that Volcanion isn't going to be found there.

>>28116260
Yeah, shut up cunt

>>28116395
Back to >>>>>>>>reddit

The amount of hate that ORAS recieves here is crazy, considering that ORAS is among the best Pokemon games sofar.