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How do you feel that the loss/changing of Ken Sugumori's

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How do you feel that the loss/changing of Ken Sugumori's signature art style for Pokémon has impacted designs as a whole?

Personally I liked the old oversized features and watercolor designs. I think block colors from a computer and more standard proportions make the new designs feel kind of empty at times, but a lot cleaner.
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>>28115475
Why they look like they dancing?
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>>28115475

>Sugi's Artstyle determines new designs

That's not how that fucking works
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>>28115475

>Empty

No that's just you
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>>28115516
lol charmander does for sure, I should make a gif
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I just want watercolor artwork of Pokemon again.
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>>28115475

I think the watercolors felt a lot more interesting and realistic. Even new designs I like just feel better in the style, but I think the style also demands a little more detail of the designs than the more cartoonish one we have now.

>>28115537
For most of them this is true, although he still does design some of them personally.
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>>28116572
Gumball is all over the place with expressions, that one isn't really fair.
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Does anyone have a compilation of all 721 Pokémon in his art style?
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>>28116572
>Look how different things are when you compare inbetweens with just random promo art!
>Look how different things are when shows have different focus!
I don't fancy nowadays cartoons that much, but this image really irks me
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>>28116572
Look at how different about 50 years of cartoons ar so different at their weirdest expressions. Its not not like style evolves slowly enough for 5 years to look similar when i cherry pick perfect examples.

Drink bleach faggot.
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>>28115475
all except venusaur and sandslash look like shite

this works on boss-like pokemon
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>>28117003
Gumball sucks, and I don't care what your doctor says, having a penis makes you a boy.
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I just miss chubby pikachu desu
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>>28115475
>How do you feel that the loss/changing of Ken Sugumori's signature art style for Pokémon has impacted designs as a whole?
You mean how do I feel that an artist has improved upon their art over the years instead of allowing themselves to stagnate and not try new things?

Sugimori's newer art is better than the old art.
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I think it was a mistake letting people other than Sugimori design Pokemon after Gen I
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>>28115475
That isn't even his original style. Speaks a lot when people "prefer it" without even knowing that.

>>28117863
Sugimori never designed all the Pokemon you colossal retard.
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Old art style is far superior. I don't necessarily dislike the new designs but the art is a hell of a lot less interesting.
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Wasn't really a fan of the watercolor style. It just looked off to me, IMO.

Seriously wtf is going on with that Pidgeot.
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>>28118086
it's showing off/flaring up it's crest

an organic and normal motion for actual birds that have them.
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>>28117667
Irrelevant, and I didn't say anything about Steven Universe.
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>>28118246
It just looks so weird, tho. It's just sitting there.
Its crest gives the impression of wind or something but it's just sitting there, doing nothing.
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>>28118355
>Its crest gives the impression of wind or something

no, it's something that birds with crests do.

just because you are stupid doesn't mean that the art is bad or is suggesting something (wind) that it isn't.
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>>28117980
Um, yes he did. That's why the 1st Gen it's better. How else do you explain the downward trend since then other than letting other people work on the designs?
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>>28118355
Look up cockatoos
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>>28118549
>the 1st Gen it's better. How else do you explain the downward trend since then
Name one bad Johto pokémon.

That's right, you can't.

Because you're a fucking faget.
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>>28118549
nice bait
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>>28118497
>>28118585
To be fair that isn't something that Pidgeot is ever shown doing outside of that single arrwork. It's been treated like long flowing hair in pretty much everything.
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>>28115475
I miss it a lot

It was part of what made Pokémon be Pokémon

gen 3 had the last good art, gen 4's was acceptable. gen 5 onwards is awful
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>>28118603
>Name one bad Joh to Pokemon

Not hard in the Gen of blobby round edge single stage shit mon. Let's start with Chinchou, Togepi, Delibird, Dunsparce, Miltank and Smeagle.
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>>28118707
>Chinchou

*grabs knife*
what the FUCK did y ou just say??
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>>28118707
Chinchou and Togepi both evolve though in gen2
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>>28118707
>Delibird
>Dunsparce
>Miltank
>Smeargle
>implying those are bad

Your supreme faggotry is so strong it's seeping through my computer screen.
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>>28118649
This person believes all plumage has to be stiff, generic feathers.

Go google some birds of paradise.
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>>28118748
>Threatens violence over disagreement

Found the underage tumblr user.

>>28118758
So? I never said all the bad ones didn't evolve. Just most of them. Gen 2 is the most cartoons gen. 80% of the dex is round.

>>28118763
I'll not hold my breath for a counter argument.
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>>28116482
>>28118076
>>28118779
>>28118795
Those look fucking amazing. I've always loved that art style, ever since reading the manual of Pokemon Blue as a kid.
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>>28118779
>>28118795
While the effort is admirable, I always thought that these don't really capture the gen 1 art all that well.
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>>28118816
these proportions look so much better
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>>28115475
That fucking pikachu.
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Bewear is the most egregiously stupid example of the radical art shift pokemon has taken, it might just be the worst pokemon design i've ever seen.
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>>28118649
you are so stupid. i guess since no official art ever shows blastoise shooting water out of his cannons, it wouldn't do it even though it is normal, implied behavior for it?

are you so autistic that you can't believe pokemon would do something extremely believable/normal for what they are, just because there isn't 'official art' for it?

does your autism carry over into real life too? do you believe antarctica doesn't exist because you've never seen it firsthand, only on maps and on pictures/videos?

get a fucking grip. i guess no pokemon eats or drinks anything ever because there is no official art of them doing it, even though it's normal/implied behavior.
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>>28116482
>watercolor
>what is copic markers

Fucking art pleb.
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>>28118603
Stantler
Quilfish
Hoppip line
Girafarig
Delibird
Cyndaquil line
Lugia
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>>28117003
This has go nothing to do with expression, you retard! It's about style, and how a lot of people are using the same "jellybean head" design for their cartoons, so it's fucking everywhere. They're not saying the shows are bad, they're saying that today's cartoons like variety.
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>>28118989
Nothing about Blastoise is normal.
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>>28119023
>Lugia
Get out
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>>28118958
I like the idea of a pokemon that wants to be friends but its hugs can asphyxiate you, but I don't like how "smooth" and simple it looks, for lack of a better word.
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>>28119023
So how much did your parents beat you when they found out that you're gay?
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>>28119151
the giant cannons that shoot water are in the pokemon world. but i guess since no official art has him mid-water shoot, it doesn't actually happen.

also way to cherry pick and avoid everything else in that post that shut your autistic ass down.
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>>28118603
Gen 2 is filled with shit, they're literally the rejects of gen 1
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>>28119222
Trips confirm childhood beatings for anons known faggotry.
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>>28119211

It's description is perfectly fine and all, I'm talking about purely visually. Sit it next to literally any other pokemon and it doesn't sit right It's awful.
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>>28115475
You sound like one of those assholes who complain and day they like the older hand-drawn cartoons/animations/anime
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>>28118649
Most likely, it was originally supposed to be a crest like some birds flare up for mating/intimidation/etc, but the idea was never explored outside of the one piece of artwork, and scrapped.
Same thing as Kakuna's arms.
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>>28118707
I literally love all of those that you named, and think they have pretty good designs.
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>>28119008
Oops.
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>>28115475
Could I get an artbro to recolor these in the new style for comparison?
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>>28117667
Gumball has had some absolutely fabulous episodes. Don't judge it by its cover.

Also, how can you say it's unvaried when it's so mixed media, and often artstyle will change drastically for entire scenes just to support the underlying jokes?
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>>28118603
Gligar
Snubbul and Granbull
Magby
Sentret
Ladyba
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Official Sugimori art is trash these days. I've learned never to judge Pokemon until I see an in-game rendering.
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>>28120455
>Granbull
Say that to my face kid not online see what happens.
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His old style actually wasn't that distinct among japs back then and his new one is much more unique for the current times

Not that it matters as he's not the artist for most things in Pokemon anymore
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>>28120455
gligar? fuck off gligar is fantastic
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>>28120455
You're full of shit.
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