ITT: We rage over unviable pokemon we wish were viable.
WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GIVE PERSIAN HIGH SPEED AND FUCKING TERRIBLE OFFENSIVE STATS? I LITERALLY CANT DO SHIT WITH PERSIAN BECAUSE IT DOESNT GET ANY USEFUL PRIORITY MOVES AND ITS FUCKING ABILITIES DONT DO JACK
SHIT DO HELP IT! IF YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE A FAST POKEMON WITH SHIT ATTACK AT LEAST GIVE IT SOME FUCKING PRIORITY MOVES OR BETTER YET GIVE IT SOME FUCKING ATTACK TO SUPPORT ITS HUGE OFFENSIVE MOVEPOOL!
>>28093004
But Anon, Persian had his time in the spotlight. He was top tier in Gen I.
>>28093004
Nice rant
>>28093004
WE CAN GET A MEGA BEEDRILL BUT NO MEGA BUTTERFREE? FUCK OFF.
>needing op stats to be gud
>not having bonds with your pokemon
>>28093020
No he wasn't. Completely outclassed by most other Normal type Pokemon.
Fuck
>>28093227
>Forgetting about speed slash crits
>>28093227
He was still in the highest (non-banned) tier.
>>28093260
No he wasn't.
shut up nerds tauros completely outclassed persian the uu cat
>Lets make a defensive pokemon
>Give it mediocre defenses
>Give it shitty HP
>Give it bad offensive stats
>And make it one of the worst type combos possible
Fuck you too GF
>>28093243
One day anon, one day we'll get a mega. Just wait for the sinnoh remakes and he'll get the mawile treatment
>>28093227
>>28093283
Not them but yeah Persian was relatively top tier.
Remember gen 1 was before,
>sp. atk/ sp. def split
>special/physical split
>introduction of steel types
>Bite's type change
>introduction of stat modifying hold items
Without those in play a Persian rocking slash, thunderwave, bite and some special move for coverage like bubblebeam or thunderbolt was good.
>>28093004
Making Typhlosion a literal fucking volcano
Cant learn Earth Power but learns earthquake
If it makes you feel better, I was murdered on turn fucking 1 today in the wi-fi tourney by these god damn exploding cats.
Turn 1: Gardivour Helping Hand, defiant Purugly Assist into explosion - my entire front 3 drop while his gengar and gardevour were immune
Turn 2: Gardivour Helping Hand, Persian Assist into explosion - Once again he's immune, and I get decimated
Fucking meme teams
>>28095799
I'm iffy on the mechanics of Assist, was it guaranteed to get Explosion somehow?
>>28096151
Yes, there's a list of moves that assist can't trigger, found here http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Assist_(move) . So basically he set up his Gengar with Destiny Bond, Thief, etc. and his gardivour with helping hand etc. The only move capable of being called by assist for him was explosion. Explained a bit more here http://nuggetbridge.com/forums/topic/15831-how-does-assist-work/
>>28093227
it pretty good but tauros, chansey and snorla were better normal types
>>28096209
Ah, so he must have only had those few moves on them, gotcha. I guess Purugly and Persian had Assist as their only move then, and they didn't have any more Pokemon than those four?
>>28095799
How is Gardevoir immune to Explosion?
>>28096354
That one otherwise-useless ability that prevents team damage
>>28096354
Telepathy. A partner's attacks like EQ and Explosion don't affect it.
>>28096307
Ya I think both his purugly and persian were choice scarfed, ensuring they'd go first while maxing att/speed ev's. There's a reason normal type pokemon don't get access to explosion normally, 250 + 125 (stab) + 187 (helping hand) = 562 base power move against my entire damn team, killing anything that doesn't resist normal. He had 6 pokemon, but none of them knew anything outside of that list on bulbedia
>>28096373
that ability is amazing in doubles / triples, lets you use EQ / surf etc.
>>28096471
Sorry yeah, I imagine it's great in doubles etc., I'm just more used to Singles where it's worthless. Abilities/moves that only have utility in specific formats always rub me the wrong way.
Turtonator while cool almost feels like an insult.
>>28096600
I can't believe how fucking Torkoal it is in Gen VI. I guess I just never paid attention to its stats, but I always assumed it was the same size as Blastoise.
>>28096655
*how fucking small Torkoal is
>>28093004
>persian
>unviable
What are you talking about? I use him as a fake out lead and it works out quit well. I also switch him in when the other guy uses toxic or burn shit to get that nice, clean STAB facade damage in.
Don't talk shit about my pussy cat.
>>28093004
I just EV trained my Euro Happy Hour Meowth, it learnt Pay Day and evolved. Now with Amulet Coin and O-Powers I can get rich in minutes. And it has better stats than Smeargle.
Persian will always be relevant now in my cartridges.
>>28095799
Wait, why is Gardevoir immune to Explosion?