>Gen VII introduces an Eviolite-like item but for Attack/Special

Vigoroth new meta?

Not much, considering NFE 'Mon lack the speed needed to utilize that boost. Eviolite works because bulky Pokemon don't care about speed.

>dat feel when dunsparece will finally be viable thanks to his new gen 7 evolution
Waht a time to be alife

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Excuse me, this is my game

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Nigs gon die

>Scyther with 165 attack
Neat

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>>28091599
Not so fast

Scyther
(also i would play grovyle cuz i like it more than sceptile)

>>28091599
Came here to post this. Pignite and Porygon 2 as well

>>28091566
why don't you take a look at vigoroth's stats first

>Kadabra is now a bulkier Deoxys Attack but with only 105 speed instead of 150 speed

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Would you really want to give this thing that much attacking power?

>>28091582
Haunter and Sneasel would like a word with you.

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Hello

>Kadabra and Haunter are now viable compared to their ugly as fuck evolutions
Thank god.

New meta

>>28091684
>1996+20
>Still thinking Slowbro evolves into Slowking

>>28091684
Kek

>>28091684
not to break your heart but that's a fully evolved pokemon right there. Slowking is a separate evolution.

>>28091548
Question - Would it be called Eviohevy?

>>28091699
>Hating Alakazam and Gengar

Bad taste.

>>28091685
Lack the speed over their evo, I mean. I would rather have MGengar over an Aviolite Haunter (shitty name, but whatever)

>>28091744
w-what?

>>28091749
Aviolite meaning the attack Eviolite, probably.

>>28091754
Yes

Should have been introduced along side its counterpart
new meta

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Ayy now their shitty evos are not necessary anymore

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>>28091548
Finally I can use something with Protean that packs a punch that's not Greninja (I hate Ubers). UU ?

Eviolite for defenses
Eviomite for offenses
Evioflite for speed

>>28091666
Sorry for angering you Satan, but 90 speed isn't horrendous coupled with a 120 attack when given this new item. Not "new meta" as I joked, but could make it more viable than it is now given it has a very wide movepool.

>>28091777
Magmar is still awful.

>>28091548
why use them over their evos with choice items or a life orb?

For the most part it's a quaint item to put on your scyther or sneasel, already fairly viable offensive NFE's, they wouldn't go up a tier or anything from this.
Unlike eviolite half the effect is generally wasted as most pokemon are not mixed attackers, but when it comes to defending you're gonna be taking hits from both sides of the spectrum.
Evolved forms are generally better offensively with better offensive moves (support moves tend to be on prevos for eviolite) and similar options in offensive items. While they don't have no drawbacks the drawbacks are negligible if you aren't shit at the game. And as I said earlier, very few pokemon are mixed and even fewer prevos are.
And lastly, when it comes to fully evolved mons and having items that raise their bulk, there's just no really good options. The assault vest is hilariously crippling to support pokemon, there's no physical options at all outside mere deterrents in the rocky helmet.

So overall no I don't think it'd effect much at all, not like eviolite does anyway.

>>28091610
That's not how Eviolite works. It doubles the actual stat, not the base stat.

>>28091835
Right you are although Eviolite gives a 50% boost

>>28091699
>95 speed and frail as fuck
>Viable

>>28091862
I was aware of my idiocy the moment I posted.

>>28091699
I get hating Gengar, but literally how can you hate Alakazam if you like Kadabra? It's exactly the same but ditches the tail for a bigger stache.

>>28091597
>dunsparce evo
[citation needed]

>>28091822
>coupled with a 120 attack
There's several layers of wrong packed into this one little phrase.

Polywhirl with its base 90 speed gets a buff :^)

>>28091548
So Life Orb?

>>28092080
>50% boost over 30%
>no recoil
>also not locked into moves like Choice items

I think it would be an interesting addition, though not as impactful as Eviolite.

>>28091826
>why use them over their evos with choice items or a life orb?
Because the items come with no drawbacks. Life Orb is a 1.3x boost, at the cost of HP, Choice items only boost Attack or SpA, and lock you. A theoretical Eviomight would raise both attacking stats by 1 stage for free.
By no means will it be a huge, meta-defining item, but Eviolite honestly isn't that impactful either, only making a handful of NFEs viable.

>>28092096
Eviolite is only actually good on a total of like 3 Pokemon.

>>28092096
hard to think of what does benefit meaningfully at all.
>Sneasel
>Scyther
>Kadabra
>???
Anything below base 100 speed need not apply.

>>28092134
252 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 199-234 (58.3 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Choice Specs Kadabra Psychic vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Manaphy: 208-246 (60.9 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Really "big" difference here my friend, well worth using the slower frailer prevo for.

>>28092182
>OU
Chansey
>UU
Porygon2
Duoblade
Gligar
>RU
Golbat
Magneton
Togetic
What's your cutoff for 'good' friend. Because you're looking at 1, 5 or 8 good eviolite users.

Meanwhile attackolite or whatever would be.
>UU at best
Sneasel
>RU at best
Scyther
>NU at best
Kadabra

>>28092244
Gligar is only UU because there's no reason to use it over Gliscor in a format where both is allowed. Porygon2 and Chansey have actual uses in metagames where both it and its evolution are allowed. That sounds like a good criteria for "good", considering those are both universally regarded as "good" compared to Porygon-Z, despite things like knockoff in those metas.

Also where are you counting 5 and 8? Even you cut off at UU, that's only 4, and if you cut off at the lowest possible setting, that's only 7.

>>28092317
>Also where are you counting 5 and 8?
I slipped somewhere.

Also duoblade is good.

>>28091548
Just realized eviolite isn't banned in little cup. Why does smogon love stall so much?

>>28091804
This.

>>28092355
even with eviolite little cup is ridiculously offensive, have you even played it?

>>28092355
Because Sneasel triggered them so hard when they unbanned it for a month.

Humor me here but why is Scyther banned from LC? I assume technician shenanigans

>>28092397
>Humor me here but why is Scyther banned from LC? I assume technician shenanigans
because it has 500 bst, is the fastest thing in the tier and hits like a fucking truck regardless of technician, AND is bulky as all fuck for LC. Next dumb question?

>>28091733
Eviomight

>>28092244
You're right, it's not a big enough difference.
So now it raises attack stats by 2 stages

>>28092416
Why did you have to break my heart?

>>28092427
>So now it raises attack stats by 2 stages
Oh so you're retarded then.

>>28092430
I hate you on a level you wouldn't understand.

>>28091627
did you enjoy versifilly's new video faggot?

>Krabby

I guess strategies to boost their speed would become more popular, baton pass speed boosters or whatever.

>>28092439
Excuse me friend, but how is that retarded? You yourself have proven that a meager +1 Boost isn't enough to make slower, frailer, NFEs viable. So, logically, the next step would be to make this theoretical item stronger.

>>28092447
That's already broken on good Pokemon without anything like that. It overtook the meta before it was complex banned.

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>everyone forgetting about Eviolite Murkrow with Prankster

>>28091582
Frogadier new meta

>>28092550
Usable niche but not inarguably good like Chansey. It's less trying to outdo Honchkrow and more trying to compete with Cottonee.

>>28092445
Hey I don't watch the furry faggot, but the thing has 500 bst and 110 attack. That turns into 165 base attack. That's higher than Reggigigas

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>>28091684
>thinking it either evolves into Slowking or that the fact it has a mega allows it to use this made up item.

Contrary Servine would be pretty cool. It'd be hard to set up though.

Can't think of any others that haven't been mentioned. Piloswine, Fraxure, and Rhydon and stuff would hit really hard, but it isn't really worth the trade-off. Pikachu already has Light Ball.

>>28091677
Deoxys can run Sash

What about an item that boosts Attack, Sp. Attack, Defence and Special Defence but only by 25% for each stat?

>>28092182
Murkrow is actually a great eviolite user

>>28092716
Now that would be interesting.

>>28092134

Don't forget that the life orb multi-plier would be multiplying a bigger number since evolved forms have higher offensive stats.

>>28092397

Because Scyther has massively inflated stats compared to everything else in the tier and can fuck things up with technician STAB boosted Aerial Ace and Bug Bite. It's the equivalent of using Mega Fug in a OU match.

>>28093203
I could potentially see Pokemon like Gurdurr and Piloswine benefiting from it.

>>28091699
Thank you mein negro

10/10 taste

>>28092182
I use one on Gurdurr, Magneton and Murkrow and they're 10/10 users
Made a Rhydon but it sucks surprisingly
Magmar is ok but nothing wow about it

Magneton officially usurps Magnezone.

>>28093281
But some NFEs have almost as much offensive power as their evolutions. Duosion even has the same high Satk as Reuniclus at 125

>>28096442
>trapinch has the same attack as flygon
Banned from LC.

>>28092397
scyther is more like a different form of scizor, not really a proper evolution. you can see it with the exact same bst they have.

>>28091548
Combusken gonna fuck some niggas up.

>>28097050
Also think of Flechinder...

>Magneton@Other Eviolite

MOM'S GONNA FREAK

>>28097050
Actually not really. Still wouldn't be as strong as Blaziken with a Life Orb.

>>28097142
That's actually what got me thinking about it. Magneton's already faster than Magnezone, so would this theoretical Atkolite or whatever could make him better mainly because I'm a massive faggot and prefer Magneton's design, I'd love to use him seriously

>>28097608
Could bump Combusken up a tier though. 20% extra damage compared to Life Orb can turn 3HKOs into 2HKOs, not to mention lack of recoil.

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>Technician Scyther with an Attack-Eviolite

>>28091699
Bad taste.