So Tegra Parker was talked about today, the NX chipset. 2 of

>>28026562
It will be barely better than gen 7.

>>28026657
The Tegra X1 already performs as well as a PS3.

The X2 is well beyond that, this thing is gonna be a beast.

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NNK is probably the best looking Mon game and it'll be much better than an old PS3 game too.

>>28026562
>we'll likely have a handheld surpassing the PS4 in power
lmfao

>>28026562
>but we'll likely have a handheld surpassing the PS4 in power

If Nintendo actually pulled this off, I hope people are ready for another PS3-era price point blunder.

>>28027109
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-tegra-parker-soc-hot-chips/

PS4 is only 1.8Tflops, Parker is 4, and even with a 50% Underclock beats out PS4.

>>28026562
The models we have are here to stay, if that is what you mean.

>>28026562
What the actual fuck is a teraflop

>>28027154
Not really, they've already been used for 3 games and that was pretty good.
They're really high quality but if they're doing it for the nx I don't think they'd be able to redo them if the thing is this powerful.

We don't even know what the deal is with the NX, unless you follow unsubstantiated rumors.

>>28027173
The new bitwars.

>>28027109
As a pc gamer I'd say a portable system would do more justice to the shitty Ps4/Xbone graphics. God they look bad on big screens.

>>28027124
>I hope people are ready for another PS3-era price point blunder.
>POWER = PRICE
The cell was an overpriced custom architexture

x86-64 can be pricey too,

This is pure ARM, ARM chipsets are cheap.

In Bulk the brains of this system will be $100.

NAND will cost them about another $15

Screen about $20

Battery about $10

And other stuff maybe $20(Casing, buttons, etc)

They could comfortably profit at the $250 price point, but it'll likely be $299.99

It's a handheld AND console, so it'll likely be at console price tiering.

>>28027154
Yes, but they can be re-textured, and better background that are rendered real time always even in battle.

>>28027185
They only look bad on MUH PHOTO REALISM games.

I don't get super realistic games, I like psuedo realism like in FF15 but when you try for actual photorealism bleh

>>28027173
A unit for measuring computing power.

A handheld surpassing PS4 in performance, interesting. I don't really care about other franchises much but if a main series Pokemon is going to be on it, it has to retain the RPG feel to it, just expand it, use all the specs to GF's leisure.

>Gamefreak
>Taking advantage of hardware capabilities

>>28027200
Why would they need to re-texture these kind of graphics? Unless they go for a realistic style instead of celshading, which I hope they don't.

If you are talking about texture resolution, they obviously draw them in 4k at least and then resize them.

>>28027209
Current consoles can't go too crazy with AA and post-processing which nowadays has the highest impact on making games look good.
Also, texture resolution which is actually just as important on stylized games, if not more. In more realistic games you can add ton of detail to make low res textures look acceptable.

>>28027250
We'll finally be free of jaggies and low res, being able to make out facial details of all characters on screen is nice.

>>28027253
This. Even with 3DS' specs, I don't think they've gone far enough. Even with S&M, Junichi Masuda said they just started to get the feel of modelling and stuff.

I just hope they will learn quicker. For the sake of their own franchise.

>>28026562
>Gamefreak
>deviating from what they've done for the last two decades
W E W
E
W

they'll refuse to do anything and copy-paste Gen 6 and 7

>>28027260
There are many eye textures that would benefit from being redone I feel.

>>28027274
They can colour us surprised, but don't get our hopes too high, just to be safe.

>>28027260
even the 3DS is capable of some AA.

PS4 can use adequate amounts of AA in games with stylized graphics and not too complicated physics.

Not a big fan of realism anyway, just give me some decent water effects and that's all.

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>tfw still looking for evidence that NX will be some kind of hybrid

>>28027271
>>28027274
Even if they just repeat SM style graphics, the higher res and better AA will mean big benefits to making out details on characters/the map.

You could even add makeup to the character customization because faces could finally be seen in detail.

>>28027294
Even big names like IGN are reporting it, there's obviously insider info spreading around.

why couldn't HAL develop Pokemon? they've done such a great job with the Kirby series and the graphics are amazing on 3DS compared to the shot GF forces down our throats

>>28027183
>>28027231
It sounds like something somebody who pretends to know things about computers would say.
"Oh yeah, I just got this new laptop, it has 3.8 teraflops of power."

>>28027314
Wouldn't be the first time fake info got relayed by big names.
I guess I'll stay skeptical until official info.
It sounds too much like a random gamer's wet dream to be honest. Still might be cool, but it's fishy.

>>28026562
My only question now is: if this will be the possible "successor" for the 3DS, how will they cope with the dual screen thing for future pokemon games ?

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>Game Freak
>competent

>>28026562

It would more likely be on the 3DS' successor unit, rather than the wiiu's.

An Colluseum/XD game would be pretty mindblowing, tho.

>>28027353
For me it's the biggest thing against that rumor, I can't see Nintendo dropping the dual screen thing it'd be pretty stupid.

>>28027347
I don't see how it's fishy.

ARM is fucking huge, evolving fast, cheap, and power efficient.

The X2 is the pinacle of ARM power, it's the ultimate in price/performance computing power.

It has low enough power draw for a handheld but high enough computational power for a console.

X86-64 is downsizing, and custom architecture like IBM PowerPC stuff is expensive in comparison to ARM.

It's a logical move.

>>28027271

Making 800+ models isn't easy

You guys are taking this shit for granted

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>>28027353
Single screen, and for virtual console like pic related.

>>28027376
Could be like the 2DS actually. 2DS is actually just a single screen with a plastic bit between the program separator.

>>28027372
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/184881/Nintendo_is_merging_its_handheld_and_console_divisions_next_month.php

NX is both handheld and console, it's the 3DS successor too.

>>28027109
kill yourself

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>>28027193
god bless this anon

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>>28026562

2 of what

2 NX's or 2 chips or what

Is this good?

Will Nintendo actually compete properly?

>>28027372

It's an extremely powerful handheld that will be able to connect into a full screen TV

>>28027443
If the gamepad is anything to go off of, 2 hours of battery.

>>28027443
It'll vaguely compete with stationary home consoles, probably. It makes sense considering how old the vita is, but it still seems impressive.

>>28027443
2 X2's, NX will only have 1 though, so 4tflops.

But Nintendo will likely underclock it to half it's potential, which is still PS4 tier for good battery life.

Now if they don't wanna be lazy(Unlikely) Nintendo could make it overclock itself when plugged into a wall for a higher graphics setting.

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I stopped going to /v/ because it's constant shitposting fiesta's

How are they reacting to that news

Calling bullshit and yelling NINTENDOOM or what

>>28027462
The screen takes around 75% of a portable devices power on average.

This screen will likely be a bit smaller(5.5 to 6 inches I bet) so less power draw.

LG actually sell cheap enough OLED panels which draw less power than the LCD used by the gamepad.

Still, NX will likely be another 3-5 hours system like the O3DS was.

Can always invest in a portable power bank.

>>28027468
I hated the WiiU and my opinion of the NX is that it won't be a blowout success.

However I do see it doing rather well, perhaps hitting 80M lifetime sales by the end at a steady, decent, not huge pace.

>>28027408
Oh, well that's convenient. Still, I'm not entirely sold this will replace the 3DS itself, Wii-U definitely. And the problem will be how big will it be and can you really play with a dual screen on it ? Cause there's no way main Pokemon games will ever come to home console, Pokemon has always been about mobility and being able to carry them everywhere, hence "Pocket Monsters".

>>28027518
>Cause there's no way main Pokemon games will ever come to home console,
Here's the thing, it will because Nintendo merged the handheld and console divisions.

I posted a link earlier, NX is both their handheld and console.

You will be able to play gen 8 on the go, or on your TV.

>>28027533
Oh, alright. So that's pretty interesting. But now the question still remains: what pokemon games are we getting in 2017 ? I can't see a new Pokemon gen come not even a year after the previous one. Thoughts ?

>>28027619
That's a tough question.

Could be Pokemon Z, Could be Pokemon Eclipse, Could be SM2, or could be the DP remakes.

>>28027193
lol this isn't happening.

>>28027672
Wrong.

>>28026562
>>28027137

>http://wccftech.com/nvidia-tegra-parker-soc-hot-chips/

I'm sorry but, where in that link does it say they're using that chip for the NX? I see no reason to believe that they aren't just going to use the Tegra X1.

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Daily reminder that this nigga's gonna be right.

https://youtu.be/KrPKq4lk1NQ

>>28027731
lol no, ending a franchise when it makes money still$$$$$$$$$$$

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>>28027718
Because it makes sense, and the timing meets up.

You can't have a console that is only as strong as a PS3 even if it's a handheld too,

Not to mention the PS4 version of Dragon Quest 11 is confirmed for NX, Which the X1 would not be able to pull off.

>>28027731

sees big THE END
>ending

it's a reboot theory

>>28027699
We'll see buddy

So, what, is this gonna be like a PSP sort of thing where you plug the handheld into your TV and it becomes a controller while your monitor displays the game?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WMOcXy7CvQ

Or at the "leaks" indicating something more new and interesting than this?

>>28027741
Hori confirmed recently in a roundtable with Masuda and Sakurai that the NX version of DQXI is indeed happening, but it's its own version, and the fourth "version" in total between

>PS4 version
>NX Version
>3DS version
>3DS SFC throwback 2D version

http://gematsu.com/2016/08/dragon-quest-xi-confirmed-nx-simultaneous-launch-ps4-3ds-versions-suggested

So that implies the NX is not on par with the PS4.

>>28027731
People really need to stop taking this video this seriously.

>>28027779
It's a port of the PS4 version.

Also Breath of the Wild is too much for the X1 but not X2.

>>28027779
Definitely a red flag. I don't believe the hype. Nintendo will likely cheap out with their own proprietary hardware as much as possible like they have been, maintaining an unholy balance of relatively under-powered hardware with some dumb gimmick attached that scares potential third party developers away, and relative affordability. I haven't seen a shred of evidence that Nintendo learns from its mistakes. It's a ridiculously conservative, change-averse company.

>>28027773
It can be used as a portable, hooked upto a TV and used like the WiiU pad while playing games on screen, or use bluetooth controllers for multiplayer when in console mode.

>>28027822
People were acting like the Wii U would be some super juggernaut when we first heard about it as Project Cafe and that the 3DS would be 360-tier because of the MGS3 tech demo and Capcom claiming they got RE5 running on it, the whole "Nintendo's got a powerhouse! They're trying to get back the core!" song and dance from the fans happens every fucking time.

>>28027731
Whoever decides to "end" the Pokemon series will retire and then immediately have a successor making Pokemon games.

>>28027974
>People were acting like the Wii U would be some super juggernaut
No they weren't, it was known it was using a fuck ancient card based on the 4850 early on,

Now people did overestimate the 3DS but no one believed in the WiiU.

>>28027314
>implying IGN are even slightly reliable

>>28027997
Maybe it was the circles I was in at the time, but plenty of people were when the very first news trickled out. Of course unlike the 3DS by the time we actually saw the system it was obvious what would happen to everyone.

>>28028040
People saw that the 3DS was capable of shaders/AA and assumed that meant it was as strong as the 360 which also did those things.

It was all stupidity with no facts.

Like I said though, no one believed in WiiU being powerful.

>>28027416
its not actually. im pretty sure they arent aiming to make the nx a 3ds or wii u successor. ive seen that in a few places.

>>28027533
>handheld and console
I just wouldn't feel comfortable carrying something like that around. You know? That and one of the benefits of the ds was the clamshell design. It protected the screens from being fucked. It's going to end up being the handheld you keep at home.

>>28026562
>still believing in meaningless rumors

I remember when you virgins thought Project Cafe would be more powerful than the latest PCs at the time rofl

>>28026562
>a handheld surpassing the PS4 in power
And a battery life of 3 hours, right?

>>28027393
Nothing to do. They can't even into optimize like MH4U did with the n3ds. Plays at capped frame and textures are a bit lower on the old while o new it goes up to -45-60 and textures looks justa a bit more polish

>>28027200
Why would they retexture the models? They already have high definition textures, they're only pixelated in-game because they're sized down so the 3DS can handle them better.

If they marketed it as a phone and sold it with the contract option like most smartphones, it could be $599.99 and no one would be the wiser.

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>>28026562
>we'll likely have a handheld surpassing the PS4 in power

If you actually believe this then you need help.

>>28029317
Like my 2ds, why ever travel with a game when the reason you travel is because you're busy

>>28029778
Well, I usually play in the train, even if busy travelling.

>>28029846
Oh that's cool, America doesn't have trains for people anymore they're completely bent on cars and trucks

>>28029136

Nintendo said that the DS was going to be coexisting with GBA

Look at how that turned out

>>28027124
>I hope people are ready for another PS3-era price point blunder.
Maybe if it were 2008.

That's the reason the Wii U wasn't a failure for them despite underperforming. It's cheap as fuck to make.

>>28026562
>surpassing the PS4 in power?

Not gonna happen.

Just a joke.

>>28027443

Suppose they don't

It won't matter

The PS4 NEO and Scorpio are half gen updates

The NX isn't going to be a big difference between them, the gap is Noticable smaller than Wii U

>>28026562
>Can you even imagine what Gen 8 will be like?
amazing
>first HD mainline game game
>amazing graphics
>no lag
>new Pokemon

>>28027109
Well yeah

>>28030501
This.

>>28027731
This video was deconfirmed when tapu koko was revealed

>>28026696
Assuming they don't have a gimmick like the Wii/Wii U.

>>28026562
Nigga it won't be any stronger than the xbone, you're literally a retard.

>Handheld

It's gonna be a console

>tech illiterates getting hyped over numbers they don't understand
It's like witnessing the retards talking about the cell all over again.

>>28030992
It's going to be both

I would be happy if they would just release a N3DS XL with at least 720p (1080p would be the sweet spot) screen and obviously far more powerful.

I like the current form factor.

>>28031016
You're retarded if you think that.

>>28031041
All evidence points towards it

>>28030682
>The PS4 NEO and Scorpio are half gen updates
The Scorpio is, the Neo is barely an update considering what it does.
If this shit about the NX is true, the Neo will be lagging behind.

>>28031041
The wii u can already go a certain distance from the home unit.

This is only the natural evolution of that.

Similar things have been done before such as the psp's video out in the 2000 and 3000 models.

It's not such a big stretch.

>>28031051
That evidence being 0.

>>28031062
>The wii u can already go a certain distance from the home unit.
It can go about a rooms length away as with most controllers.

>Similar things have been done before such as the psp's video out in the 2000 and 3000 models.
Doesn't extend that far.

>It's not such a big stretch.
I don't think you realise what a hybrid console entails.

>>28031060
Didn't you see the latest rumors?

>>28031085
Yes, I know it cant go far I said it would be an evolution of that concept. Smartphones can already broadcast their screen through dongles even today.

Are you seriously suggesting you can't get a long video cable for the psp?

and I fail to see what you mean on the third point considering we already have the methods and means to do all of this with existing tech and it's been done before.

Last time I read the Tegra X1 cycle rate was way slower then an actual Ps4 cycle rate.
X1 fp16 500 gflop x2 vs PS4 fp32 1.84tflop

>>28027443

The worst case scenario is that it is underclocked and still have shit battery life

But that's still PS4 tier and Nintendo, when they try, are really flexible with the hardware

Long story story, it'll be the same power level of the PS2 compared to Xbox and GC

Weaker than Scorpio and Neo but still good enough

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I don't care at all about the power as long as I can plug it into my TV and play in 1080p

>the next mainline Pokemon game will be playable on the TV in high resolution

>>28030542

PS4 is 2013 tier hardware

The NX is using hardware from Atleast 2015

It's not hard to imagine

NEO is different story altogether

All this Spec speculation.
If GF does not aim for AT LEAST Morrowind's quality, I'll be extremely disappointed.

>>28030501

This

Nintendo says coexist because it is a new concept

If it's successfull, then they will let it replace Wii U and 3DS

>>28032381
This. If it truly is a hybrid device, that means we'll be able to play the next games on the TV in a non-shit resolution.

>>28032388
Neo and slim are minor upgrades anon-Chan

>>28032405

>morrowind

Are you talking realism

Because that game is broken as fuck and aged horrendously

Battle revolution probably looks better

>>28032405
Wait what, meaning a full immersion of the environment while keeping it Pokemon-styled RPG? Imagine going into the gates of a city or even arriving in one of the cities (without gates lol).

>>28031096
>rumors
So, nothing to consider ?

>>28027173
Flops = floating point operations per second
The higher it is, the better the computing power of the processor

>>28032643
Remember that it means jack shit if the developper is incompetent.

Hell, imagine if developpers would optimize their shit.
There was an era where they had to do it, and shit was impressive considering hardware, now, they can optimize fuckall, but there's enough power for the game to not lag too much.

Just imagine what could be possible if a studio would optimize its shit for the monster computing capacity we have nowadays.

>>28032683
Developers like GF are lazy and don't give a shit. When was the last time they needed to worry about hardware limitations? Gen II?

I think they only step up their games to keep up, not to actually improve and be ahead of the curve.

>>28032683
there are some examples of good optimization still. Uncharted 4 looks amazing for what the PS4 is capable of. MGS V runs at 60fps on PS4 which is pretty impressive.

>N-NX can't be PS4 tier!
>It would have a battery life of 20 minutes a, would cost $999.99, and is impossibe!
ARM is fucking cheap and ARM is fucking power efficient.

Tegra, Nvidias take on ARM is even better because they can integrate desktop GPU based technology into it.

It consumes more power than the regular ARM CPU but still far far far less than anything X86-64.

Parker(X2) will have a GPU based on their current Pascal line, which is energy efficient and powerrful.

Pascal is impressive because it even be downsized for laptops while. retaining near desktop level strength


NX will be good shit.

>>28029372
Do people forget O3DS has 3-5 hour battery life?

Even worse if you turned 3D all the way up, could dip below 3 then.

>>28033308
B>>28033308
t what the fuck bettery manufacturors are even doing ? Shouldn't we have extreme bettery life in this day and age ?

>>28031060
A full power X2 is just barely under the Neo in power.

But it'll need to be underclocked, probably to PS4 levels to keep it cool enough while just sipping enough power for adequate battery life.

>>28027335
Well that's how things are. But still is a relative measure and can only be used to compare processing power within the same architecture.

And this is not the ideal board to talk about this

>>28031401
It's using the X2, not X1.

Breath of the Wild is confirmed for NX, X1 could not run it.

X2 can.

>>28032381
That'll be hype, I just upgraded to a 48 inch TV from 32 inches.

Pokemon will look beast on it in HD.

I still want a 60 inch, but I got a refurb Samsung 48 inch smart TV for only $300.

>>28032405
Ni No Kuni 2 should be the better comparison as it's cell shaded.

>>28033331
The problem is we technically do have better batteries than lithium ion, however they all have issues.

Some are more prone to exploding, some get fewer charges before shitting themselves, etc

Lithium Sulfur is viable now, but people wanna skip over that because it's max potential is "only" only 400% of that of Lithium Ion.

>>28033476
Oh, well, that sounds like a retarded reason to skip over them, i mean come on, 400% is pretty rad.

You're delusional if you think Nintendo will overhaul Pokemon. Look at other series such as animal crossing. It's hardly changed in almost 20 years and it's console iterations were hardly different from handheld.
Nintendo knows they can squeeze the nastiest shit out of their tiny Japanese assholes and people will eat it up. I mean I do. And you do. So why change the formula?

>>28026562
is this nvidia?
preorder cancelled

>>28033662
they don't need to. just give me non-240p and 60 FPS

>>28033662
At the very least we'll get SM graphics in HD with AA, which will be enough to make out NPC faces of non chibi models.

>>28030501
And they did coexist you fucking faggot.
DS was released in 2004. GBA stopped being produced in 2006 (in Japan.)