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Give a shitmon a decent niche with one change >Parting Shot

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Give a shitmon a decent niche with one change

>Parting Shot gets is +1 Priority
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White Smoke now prevents stat drops caused by the users own moves as well.

Also gives Heatmor a minor boost.
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Gogoat has only 1 normal ability, being sap sipper, and his hidden is grass pelt, which is shit. So give him a second regular ability like triage, that new one comfey has that gives priority to healing moves.
>Bulk up
>priority milk drink
>Horn leech
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Poliwrath's Damp ability gets replaced with No Guard. Never missing Hypnosis and Focus Blast alongside Hydro Pump and Blizzard on the special set would be an amazing niche.
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Mega Audino with Triage.

Priority Heal Pulse, Wish, Heal Bell, Rest, Healing Wish, Pain Split would do wonders for Mega Audino.
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Electivire gets swords dance and agility.
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>>28006165
That's actually a pretty neat idea anon good job.
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>>28006165
He gets Dynamic punch too, guaranteed confusion and takes advantage of its better attack stat
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Make it Dragon/Steel type and give it Iron Head.
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>>28008304
>shitmon
? The thread doesnt state 'take any pokemon and make it uber'
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Own Tempo gives dance moves priority.
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Sheer force now works with recoil, and negates it while giving the 30% boost I don't care if darmanitan is not OU, I wan trampardos to be better damn it.
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>>28006165
>>28006344
>>28008232
Except this isnt a niche. It steps on three other No Guard users, two of which already employ Dynamic Punch. Try again
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>>28008700
>>28008719
Fuck tyrantrum, this isnt a niche either if thats the case.

I guess give it a mega with 210 attack, 100 speed, but a new ability that works as huge power but for speed
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Give Malamar Psycho Boost
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>>28008750
>implying contrary superpower isnt already a good niche
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>>28008719
I'm pretty much positive that "No Guard Hypnosis" would be considered a niche, anon.
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toxic boost negates the effects of toxic. How much better would it become?
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>>28008761
Still, as the Contrary Pokemon he should be able to have more uses for his ability
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>>28005049
>Only it should learn clear smog
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>>28008700
1 change.
I would make his speed 90.
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>>28008833
Making sheer force work with recoil is one change, I was just explaining what I meant by "work with it"

My idea was that now you can keep it as a scarf revenge killer and deal absolutely massive damage with head smash
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Give Aerodactly Head Smash and Brave Bird, I'm honestly baffled why he doesn't already get at least one of them.
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Give it Gooey and have it learn Toxic Spikes, then 10 more points in each Defense. Can more effectively abuse Stockpile on its moveset.
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>all psychic pokemon

nurf knock off
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>>28005000
>Pangoro
>shitmon
DELET THIS
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>>28008333
not that anon but in my opinion haxorus is only ok as a pokemon because he's the pseudo legendary of gen 5, but he's also one of the worst in what he tries to specialize in. I mean, why use him when garchomp has 2 stabs, some more bulk, and actually passes 100 speed? Dragon/Steel wouldn't be all that bad on haxorus since it is pretty frail and steel as an offensive presence isn't too common.
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>>28008928
Hydreigon is the pseudo of gen 5
Haxorus is just some random dragon
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>>28008987
But then why would giving haxorus steel type and iron head send it to ubers? It's still frail and a lot of things outspeed it.
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Garbodor
Stench ability now prevents all pokemon in play from mega evolving.
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>>28008774
>turn toxic boost into immunity and make it so it can't activate
Brilliant
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>>28009083
I said negate the effects of toxic as in not damage it, not negate toxic completely. Learn to read
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>>28008912
It's not even true, Pangoro is perfectly viable in UU and while there are better options in OU using it there isn't completely hopeless.
>waahh why isn't my favorte mon viable in Uber!
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>>28008357
>>Priority BP120 STAB move.
Good thing you dont design games, anon. People like you let Talonflame happen.
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Give it any setup move.
work up :^)
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Yeah no idea how to make it better without completely overhauling everything about it. Making it Ground Fairy or giving it a god tier ability like Magic Bounce are probably the only things you could do to make Claydol viable again.
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>Delphox
>Mystical Fire now also lowers SpD
For best results, give it 20 more BP as well, or the ability to lower Spe too. Suddenly, it gets a niche for stat-dropping the opponent by quite a ways, while dealing large amounts of damage. Life Orb or Assault Vest will both work on it, and while it's only going to shoot to Ubers with all 3 of the buffs, it should at least make it to UU with just one or two.
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>>28008719
Maybe remove dynamic punch from its movepool then. 100% accuracy sleep and confusion would be too annoying
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>>28009287
Finally someone who considers balance. Thank you
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>>28009150
groundilate for the ground type self destruct :)))
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>>28008774
but then its other ability become useless as hell, even more so than now
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>>28009821
So? who even uses inmunity zangoose
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Change the Atk for the Sp.Atk, give it a special oriented movepool and give it some kind of Solar Power ability.
There, now it makes sense with its Pokedex.
I still don't understand why the team in charge of the stats/abilities/etc is completely isolated from the team of designers, is GF retarded?
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>>28010728
Yes. Duh.
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>>28005000

>Give poliwrath drain punch

It becomes a solid swift swim OU rain sweeper with access to bellydrum/drainpunch/waterfall/icepunch

>>28006165

This ones also cool. I don't think it steps on machamps toes considering machamp has way more raw power than poliwrath.
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>>28005000

>Pinsir is now bug/ground
>gets megahorn

I think it might actually make him OU. Mold breaker EQ and stealth rock could disrupt common levitate and magic bounce users fucking them over entirely. I think it would be even better than heracross all things considered.
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>>28008853
Because then he'd be over powered as fuck, you dumb dumb
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>>28012578
You know something else that could make pinsir OU? imagine a mega, flying/bug type, AND aerilate so it works with quick attack and return, how crazy would THAT be?
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> Recover
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>>28012625

Then we release salamence that literally does the same job. But is better in every way. So much so it's S+ in ubers.

I'm also not crazy about megas. I feel like they actually restrict the game more than they help it because so many things have over base 150+ attacking stats and OP abilities with megas. It's fucking retarded.

>Pinsir has higher special attack than heracross already for some reason
>mega pinsir gets more special attack

Lmao
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>>28012639

>not making him electric rock with levitate
>Pivioting into normal/fire/ground and flying type moves and nab momentum or set up

It would be cool
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Ability that automatically sets up Reflect/Light Screen on switch-in.
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>>28012669
Why do you think it restricts it? what's wrong with having a team centered around one ace you have to work around to beat? It honestly feels like it allows for more strategies. To be honest it doesn't even restrict you to having one, since there's many ways to counter megas you can run a mega-less team and perform just as well, if not better than others who do use megas. You only need to git gud
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>>28012772

>doubling the defenses and special defenses of its whole team just by switching in

Don't be retarded

How about lightscreen and reflect last 8 turns instead of 5 without having to use lightclay?
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>>28005000
Water Shuriken
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>>28005049
>Flannery's Torkoal can spam Overheat freely now
hell no

>>28005140
possibly OP but it'd be a lot better

>>28006165
quite OP

>>28009023
dragon/steel is an amazing typing and now it can set up on a lot more and deal with fairies much easier. a good typing like that + 76/90/70 defences isn't "frail" either.
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>>28012779

It provides major power creep. Hilariously badly in fact. Pokemon have to be able to handle these ridiculous threats in order to stay relevant. Also on the opposite side of the spectrum the "one mega per team" rule makes it so you have literally less options when team building.
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>>28009150
Giving it slack-off, moonlight, or roost I guess.
It doesn't have sustain at all.
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>>28012869
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Give Quiver Dance and Fiery Dance.

Any other ideas? inb4 "retcon into grass/fairy"
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>>28012967

It would still be a worse liligant with quiver dance.
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>>28012899
Power creep will be there naturally as gens progress, megas can actually help shittier pokemon affected by this to become relevant again, like manectric, lopunny, houndoom (to a certain extent) and even charizard. Pokemon do need to handle these threats to stay relevant, but they've always had to handle the strongest of pokemon to be on the top. Not only that, but as said before, plenty of pokemon that have no megas can easily dispatch megas if you play your cards right. Mega diancie can sweep only if you let it, because something as simple as a bullet punch from scizor will destroy it. again, you just need to be good.

In regards to teambuilding, it really doesnt. Having one mega forces creativity, it makes people have to make the team work with it or for it, not just put a bunch of powerfull pokemon together. It allows for more ways to build teams. You can use an offensive mega like scizor to make your team much more powerfull and generally pressure the opponent, or use mega aggron and play the opposite way, making it so the opponent has to figure out a way of getting past your raw bulk while you deal consistent damage.

I fyou honestly think having 6 megas would lead to more creative team building than having 1, you're misleading yourself. You are also hillariously contradicting yourself by suggesting that, since if you could just use megas people would just pack teams with them and use just those, like the disaster that was VGC when they allowed legendaries and everybody just used groudon and xerneas. There's a balance that the one mega rule brings that allows megas to shine while not taking center spot to other amazing mega-less pokemon

TL;DR: You're wrong, know very little about what originates creativity, and need to git gud
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>>28013017

They had to ban pieces of the mega sabeleye core because it was too strong.

Don't tell me shit like mega sabeleye and gothitelle encouranged creativity. Even smogons own pokemon description describes mega charizard X as being able to "sweep almost effortlessly through teams".
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>>28013017
t. sub 1400
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Literally only a super effective attack can damage Shedinja (no poison, no confusion) etc,
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>>28013247
that would be too strong
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>>28012982
>>28012967
inb4 grass/fire with will-o-wisp and earth power
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>>28009147
But he already has hone claws what else do you want?
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I wouldn't say Cradily is shit, but it would ve a lot more solid if it had power gem.
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>>28013017


>megas can actually help shittier pokemon affected by this to become relevant again

are you forgetting that there are are wayyyy better megas out there and wasting your mega slot on something stupid is a waste.
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>>28013448

and since you only get 1 mega per team there is no reason to use the worse megas at all.

Why would you use m-pinsir over m-salamence?
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>>28006165
And I will teach Fissure in RBY and transfer it to SM
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>>28005000
Butterfree gets Technician as it's other primary Ability to make good use out of Air Cutter until Game Freak either gives it a Mega Evolution or a future equivalent to an Alolan Form.
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>>28005000
BULLET PUNCH
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>>28005000
swampert is decent, but I'd rather have swift swim or drizzle than damp before mega
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100% burn chance if opponent uses contact move
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