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I don't need to explain myself, you won't believe me anyway.
>A trailer is coming on the first of September.
>Six New Pokemon.
>Evolution to Rowlet, Arrowl. Grass/Flying Type. Keeps Overgrow.
>Evolution to Litten, Pyrager. Fire Type. Keeps Blaze.
>Evolution to Popplio, Danselk. Water/Fairy Type. Keeps Torrent.
>Evolution to Pikipek, Drillzit. Steel/Flying Type. Keeps Keen Eye and Skill Link.
>Evolution to Komala, Narkoala. Normal/Psychic Type. Keeps Comatose.
>Guardian to Akala Island, Tapu Naene. Psychic/Fairy Type. Ability is Magic Fog, which summons Misty Terrain.
>Four new Alolan Pokemon.
>Alolan Gyarados, evolves from normal Magikarp. Water/Dragon Type. Keeps Intimidate but gains Rough Skin.
>Alolan Spearow and Alolan Fearow. Dark/Flying Type. Ability is Defiant.
>Alolan Butterfree, evolves from normal Caterpie and Metapod. Bug/Psychic Type. Keeps Compound Eyes
>Four new Trial Captains.
>Hazel, a Psychic Type Captain. She is a witch, and has many "potions" floating around her.
>Pascal, an Ice Type Captain. He is a winter sports enthusiast, and likes to snowboard.
>Paprika, a Fighting Type Captain. She is a Yoga Instructor. She speaks very peacefully, but can lose her temper.
>Lithius, a Rock Type Captain. He is a philosopher studying Mega Evolution.
>Four new Mega Evolutions.
>Mega Greninja, looks similar to Ash-Greninja. Water/Dark Type. Keeps Protean.
>Mega Alolan Gyarados. Water/Dragon Type. Ability is Berserk.
>Mega Gigalith. Rock/Steel Type. Ability is Prism Body, which boosts light-based moves like Flash Cannon.
>Mega Lilligant. Grass/Fairy Type. Keeps Own Tempo.
>Normal Type Z-Move is shown with Narkoala, Hyper Sprint.
>Flying Type Z-Move is shown with Drillzit, Debris Spiral.
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>>28001767
>Pretending to predict something that simultaneously happens every month on the first
Faggots
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mega lilligant pls be real.... i need my lilymon waifu in pokemon....
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>>28001767
I know this is going to be fake but I want it to be real... someone slap me
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>>28001767
I'm generally curios as to the motivation to make fake leaks? How shitty of a person do you have to be to simply just enjoy the act of lying?
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That's too much for a simple trailer. If you had stopped at the Alolan forms that would have been a lot more believable.
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>>28001767
>Narkoala
That's pretty clever OP, I'll give you that much
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>Starter evos being shown 2.5 months before release
>Komala evolving
>Alolan Gyarados
>Alolan Spearow/Fearow
>New Mega Evolutions in S/<

Fake as shit and not even good.
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>Dark/Flying Alolan Fearow

Fuck you the dream will never come true
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>>28001767
>Alolan Gyarados
>Keeps Intimidate but gains Rough Skin
what?
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>>28001767
The best fake leaks are the shorters, with no info and just a pic
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Mega Lilligant having Own Tempo is so awful that this is actually credible.
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I refuse to believe they aren't revealing an Ice or Dark Alola mon by now
Fake shove it up your ass Rainbow Greninja fag
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>>28001767
Gyarados and Spearow are already confirmed to be the same in Alola.

>>28001865
Narkoala was already being thrown around by people (including myself) back before we knew Komala's localized name.
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>>28001865
And also used by another dozen fake leakers in the past few weeks.
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>>28001863
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZHowhxM0U
Trailers posted around the first of each month have always had more information in them than whatever else we get during the month.
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uhuh.
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This art of tapu is fake.
My friend is the artist.
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>>28001920
>He doesn't enjoy assplay
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>>28001881

Wait, there are people who honestly believe Komala won't be evolving? Are you stupid?
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Why the hell would Fearow be dark
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>>28001922
>Gyarados and Spearow are already confirmed to be the same in Alola.

Why? Because they were shown in previous gameplay to be normal? We also saw Meowth in gameplay footage months before Alolan Meowth was revealed, that means nothing. This is the same type of logic that makes people think Megas are out because Kangaskhan was shown to be normal.
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>>28001961
sauce us to end this fake
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>alolan gyarados
We saw gyarados you SHIT
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>>28001989

I mean your using an exception

The Meowth we saw was specifically from your old region
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For those that want it, here is a image of OP's text.
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>>28001976
>Someone having a different opinion to me must be stupid!

Hi, Reddit! You must be new here.
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>>28001989
The problem is, we know the Meowth from the trailer is a different one from Kanto or wherever the protag came from.

Wild Spearow were shown in another trailer getting BTFO by Tapu Koko in a different cutscene, and they are unchanged.
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>>28002027
Not to mention the original, unchanged mons of revealed Alola forms were never shown in previous trailers (Meowth is overworld only, and doesn't count because there's an explanation for it).
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If I recall correctly Spearow and Gyarados were added to the Japanese Sun and Moon website's Pokemon listings with something along the lines of "Stay tuned for new information about these familiar Pokemon!" listed under them. So Spearow having an Alolan form isn't necessarily that out there. We did see those Spearow in the Tapu Koko cutscene, yeah, but remember that the gameplay footage isn't finalized and they could easily be hiding things like that from us.
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>>28001767
I am sad that this Tapu will never be real, its very elegant looking.
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>Keeps Overgrow
>Keeps Blaze
>Keeps Torrent
i don't believe you
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>>28002026
>This pokemon doesn't evolve so this unrelated pokemon clearly doesn't evolve either!
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>>28002150
Actually my point was just because it looks like it should evolve, doesn't mean it will, but nice try.
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>starters keep blaze, torrent, overgrow

No fucking way
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when will these posts end

sun and moon just need to come out so this shit can stop
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>>28001767
>>Mega Lilligant. Grass/Fairy Type. Keeps Own Tempo
PLEASE. I don't care if it's bad, I NEED IT.
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>>28002199
Yes? Like always?
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Fake
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>>28002572

Go find a dictionary

And find sarcasm
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>>28002700
Well, I'm dumb. Sarcasm isn't my forte.
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>>28001767
You had me until >Four new Mega Evolutions

I hope everything ITT is real except that anyway. Megas suck
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>>28001767
>it has no way of concealing itself let alone turning into part of a totem
dropped
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>>28002874
Megas were already confirmed to return, it was leaked Magearna is getting a mega.
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>>28001767
>you won't believe me anyway
Good. Stopped reading there. :^)
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>>28002915
Masuda said we would be able to use Mega Evolution back on Pokenchi in April, too, though he never said we would get new ones.
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>Narkoala
Stopped reading right there.
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>>28002901
>>28002575
Granted, this still means it's almost certainly fake, but it does answer your problem (the bottom shuts like an umbrella; it's kind of cut off in the closed picture.)
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Strictly speaking OP never said that specific picture was Tapu Naene's design. Maybe it'll be similar or something, maybe this is sort of a reach, but it never actually was outright stated to be the actual design.
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>>28001767
>Mega Alolan Gyarados
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>>28002931
Oh yeah, he did say that. I thought Megas were coming back and I still feel stupid for missing that straight-up confirmation.
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Wen will this shitfest leak meme ever fucking end? Bloody hell
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>>28002915
>it was leaked
Can you faggots stop saying "IT'S CONFIRMED!!!!1"
It isn't confirmed until Nintendo officially announce it. Until then it's just probable speculation.

Just like with this "STARTERS ARE CONFIRMED BECAUSE MALLOW IS IN IT".
No, they aren't. You don't know how old the picture is. It could have been early concept art with a semi-finalized NPC. Doesn't mean they're confirmed the starters.
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>>28002984
>>28002931
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>>28002969
You aren't the only one. Poketubers missed that confirmation, too, and have been discussing "Megas won't be back" like crazy for weeks.
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>>28001767
You're full of shit, anon.
But I respect you since most of your stuff doesn't sound like horseshit spewed from your facial asshole, bar the starter evos.
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>>28002991
>Masuda said we would be able to use Mega Evolution back on Pokenchi in April, too, though he never said we would get new ones
>he never said we would get new ones

you softcocks really take it a mile when you're given an inch, don't you?
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>>28002984
It's likely reference art for the anime, which implies that the designs are final so production can begin on episodes featuring them.
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>>28003019
What's wrong with what I said? He confirmed we can at least use Mega Evolution, but shrugged when asked about Mega Greninja and Mega Weavile. I don't understand the problem here.
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>>28003027
>reference art for the anime
>not for the games
This changes everything, and I don't fucking like the direction it's going.
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>>28003027
It's likely =/= confirmed
That is my point. Everyone needs to stop saying "STARTERS CONFIRMED". What if the concept art is from like 2014, just after they finished ORAS, or even 2013 after they finished XY? What if they've overhauled the starters' evos since then?
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>>28003019
I thought you were saying Megas weren't confirmed to return at all.
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>>28003060
So you're telling me that they were planning an episode for the Sun/Moon anime back when Ash only had two badges and Serena was in her old design. Cool.
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>>28003096
Nice Strawman.
Who's to say that there isn't planning ahead in the form of rough concept art?
They've clearly been working on Sun/Moon since finishing ORAS, so the art could be as old as 2014.
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>>28003057
>>28003068
The other anon was acting as if the unconfirmed leak of mega Magearna was confirmed, and by extension confirming all mega evolutions.
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>>28003096
>he thinks development is faster than that
How easily you forget about Greninja's inclusion in Smash.

Think about this for a second. Charizard gets his X mega as a final smash. Greninja is in Smash. They eventually clash in the Anime several times.

Sakurai explicitly asked for some of the X/Y 'mons purely because he was going to put one in. Who it was never revealed until later.

It's a common practice in the fucking animation world. Learn your fucking place.
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>>28003179
That, I understand. That's game development. They likely handed over the sheet for Greninja to Sakurai in 2012 or so so he could begin to model Greninja. They probably had planned to shill Greninja hard like that way in advanced, too. But these are probably for the anime, which isn't planned out as far ahead, maybe six - eight months at most. By saying the Starter Designs were likely designed back in 2014 or 2013 and could be heavily altered by now is ridiculous because that goes back to before the XY arc even started, or before it got anywhere near where it is now (again, when Ash had two-three badges and Serena hadn't cut her hair and changed clothes yet).
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>>28003306
>But these are probably for the anime
Yeah ***probably***
But you don't know that.
PLs stop saying these are confirmed. Sure, they're LIKELY to be true, but you don't know that.

Nothing is confirmed until Nintedo reveal it
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>>28003413
They have personality notes, Ash, and action poses. They're definitely for the anime.
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HOLY SHIT THAT PHILOSOPHER DUDE COULD RELATE TO THAT RIDDLER LEAK!!!

The image -> A philosopher made of stone
The reality -> A philosopher who studies stones (i.e. mega evolution)

Eehhh??
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>>28003560
You know what, that does sound exactly as esoteric and obvious in retrospect as the other Riddler leaks. Does anybody have a list (or image, preferably) of all the Riddler leaks so far?
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>>28003560
DUDE. I think you figured it out.

I was going with it's something to with the Philosopher's Stone (bc of the rumoured alchemy theme), but I like your idea better.
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>>28003585
Also, in retrospect, thinking it referred to Sophocles was stupid. If it was, Riddler would've just posted a painting of a famous philosopher (like, you know, the actual Sophocles), but EVERYTHING is important in the Riddler leaks.
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>>28001767

Out of all the "leaks" we've been having this is actually my favorite, and seriously hope it's real
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>>28002091

This. I don't think any one form is not possible just because it was revealed in a previous trailer.

It might mean that it doesn't get a new form, sure, but I don't think it completely rules it out.
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>>28003723
Yeah. I like how, if it's fake, the leaker even went to the trouble of giving the Normal-type Z-Move the right name.
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>>28003585

Heres the pic
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>>28001767

>A trailer is coming on the first of September
As usual.

.Starter predictions are nothing remarkable.

>Drillzit Steel/Flying - Skill Link
Why? No good moves to take advantage of, 3/10 OP

>Alolan Gyarados
idk why this is so popular... probs wrong.

>Alolan Fearow - Defiant
Sounds ok. I like defiant on it too.

>Alolan Butterfree
Nice steal

The Captains Sound P-Cool.

>Mega Greninja
You stop that

>Mega Alolan Gyarados
Special Gyarados? Plz OP.

>Mega Gigalith
Eh. If real, wish It'd apply to Power Gem.

>Mega Lilligant
HA. Not even good OP.

>Normal Z Move
Seen

>Flying Z Move - Debris Spiral
Cool name, 7/10

OVERALL: 5/10 Leak

Cool Ideas, lots of them real/convincing enough. Trial Captains are snazzy, Alolan Forms are OK if a bit too safe. The Megas even existing is an immediate callout for fake tho. Not to mention that image has been floating around for some time, not even unique bruh. Good try, and nice discount tsun intro
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>>28002931

Did he straight up say that there would be no new megas, or are we inferring that we aren't getting new megas because he didn't explicitly say we would be getting new ones?
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>>28001767
>>28003560
(You)
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>>28003753
Okay, so:
>2=Sandcastles
>13=Pyukumuku
>11=Sophocles or Lithius, if real

What's the deal with the numbering? What's the translation for #7, apparently related to Marshadow? What's 4 mean?
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>>28003753
what's the story behind this? Is this supposed to be their pokedex number?
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>>28002183
farfetch'd doesn't look like it'll evolve though, it just looks maturely weak and dissapointing
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>>28003791
He was asked "Is Mega Evolution in the game?" To which he replied yes. Then the kids on the show asked about a possible Mega Greninja and a possible Mega Weavile, to which he just shrugged. So he didn't confirm new Mega Evolutions, but he didn't deconfirm them either (meaning we could or could not get new ones; we don't know yet). But he did confirm that we can at least use Mega Evolution, meaning we can use all of the current Mega Evolutions we know of so far.
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>>28002026
Haven't we already seen Komala's dex, which shows it will evolve once?
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>>28003983
Clearly not, given that Rowlet and Litten would be right next to each other and Pikipek would be the first. Given the way this leak seems to be going, though, they probably mean something.
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>Drillzit
never ever

>Tapu Naene
>Naene
>Nae nae
NEVER EVER
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>>28001767
>Ability is Prism Body, which boosts light-based moves like Flash Cannon.
Is there other light-based move that gigalith can use? I strongly doubt GF would create a mega just to spam a subpar move
obvious fake but I will call BS just because
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>>28004865
P R E P A R E S O L A R B E A M
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>>28001767
>Mega Lilligant. Grass/Fairy Type. Keeps Own Tempo.

Don't tease me.... My fav pokemon will finally get some love if this happens
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Well, we've only got a week to wait. Let's find out if this is true.
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>>28001767

The fake Tapu's are retarded

Why is the electric one the only one with a normal tiki face
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>>28001767
You were doing right until Alolan Gyarados, OP.
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>>28003560
>>28003585
>>28003631

I thought we established he meant Sophocles

The fat electric guy

then again it has nothing to do with Aristotle
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>>28001818
>simultaneously happens every month on the first
>simultaneous
>monthly
wut
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>>28006557
>month on the first
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It's a shame that this is probably false because a lot of the ideas here are really good
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>>28001856
This is the thing I've been wondering myself for quite some time.
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>>28001856
>How shitty of a person do you have to be to simply just enjoy the act of lying?
Timmy "Rusealot" Turner.
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>>28001767
That Tapu is fake man, wtf. Take care next time.
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>>28001767
>>Alolan Spearow

We've already seen regular wild Spearow.
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>>28001767
>Alolan Spearow
Regular wld Spearow already showed up in trailers
>Pokémon with a Mega getting an Alola Form
Nah, don't think so.
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Sounds fucking real. You got me hooked.

Screencap this people, I'll be doing so too.
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>mega gigalith
FUCK YOU FOR TELLING ME THINGS I WONT GET
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I want to believe this even though it's probably bullshit. Most of the information seems incredibly feasible by fake leak standards.
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>>28007538
This leak is fake af, but remember that we also saw regular Meowth in the games, then bam Alolan Meowth still appeared.
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>>28002398
Welcome, newfriend.
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>>28001767
>Evolution to Litten, Pyrager. Fire Type. Keeps Blaze.
It's FIRE/DARK.
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>Narkoala
>Megagiga

i want to believe
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>>28001767
N-nice symmetry, anon.
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>>28002183
Komala looks like an infant. It sleeps with a pillow, like an infant. Farfetch'd is not a good parallel.
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>>28003762
>Why? No good moves to take advantage of, 3/10 OP
>There will be no new moves
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>>28001767
>still shilling the new trial captains meme
>"I KNOW YOU WON'T BELIEVE ME BUT IT'S REAL, YOU'LL SEE!"
>tfw it's never real because OP is just a faggot kid
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>>28001767
as if they would make a trailer with so much info instead of splitting it up to three, like they did before.

>Starter Evos have Overgrow, Blaze, Torrent as standard ability

WHO WOULD THOUGHT THAT?!

>Koala is psychic
don´t make sense it will clearly be a offensive phsysical mon which will fuck you up with this wood
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>>28003982
No idea about the numbering (no one seems to have figured it out yet) but #4 is Mimikkyu (cloth ov er a Pikachu, and Phantump, a ghost type) and #16 COULD be Tapu Koko.

>>28003983
I don't remember exactly when this came out but I believe it was not too long before the well-known Chinese leak, and it has been legitimate so far.
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this leak is completely retarded and not even the slightest plausible
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>>28001767
>Narkoala
>Narcotic
>0/10
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Nice design OP. The upside down jellyfish sting is a pretty cool concept. Saw a couple of those when I was in Key West. It would make an interesting Pokemon
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>>28001899
I assume it gains rough skin as HA
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>>28001856
Fake leakers are thirsty for attention, and they know that /vp/ are dumb enough to fall for it. "It's probably fake, but..." and such bullshit.
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>>28002016
>encouraging fake leakers
For what purpose?
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>>28008666
He didn't make it, so don't praise him for being too lazy to male his own fakemon.
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>>28001767
>mega lilligant
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REAL LEAKS.
> Pikipek gets a grass/flying evolution.
> Eevee gets a steel type evolution.
> Alolan Pinsir is in the game.
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Hyper Sprint as the Normal type Z move has been confirmed...
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>>28001767
We've already seen all those Alolan forms in their normal form. Fake.
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>>28008776
>that comic
L-Lewd
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>>28008976
Eevee pokedex in trailer already confirmed no more eevees sorry m8
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>>28001767
>Evolutions of the starters
>Predicts them to keep overgrow/blaze/torrent
>As if there was any possibility they wouldn't keep those.

No starter ever loses overgrow/blaze/torrent to another ability, and the fact OP would specifically "predict" something that is a given leads me to believe it's fake.

Still, wouldn't mind it being real tho. Alolan spearow and butterfree sound awesome.
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>>28004033
>>28007919
>What is: In hindsight
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For the people saying that more trial captains are unlikely, it really seems more unlikely that there wouldn't be more. I mean, the locations of three of them can be pinpointed to a single island, which isn't even the first island in the games.
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>>28011284
Yeah, plus we literally got confirmation that there were more trial captains.
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They wouldn't give gyarados both an alt form and a mega. Nice try.
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>>28011478
How do you know?
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>>28001961
he didn't claim it was real, it wouldn't let him post without an image
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>>28001767
>Alolan Fearow. Dark/Flying Type. Ability is Defiant.
>immune to sticky web though
FUCK
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>>28001856
>>28007070
It's fun to speculate, and if we dont have much to speculate on, like we did with XY (Skiddo, riding mechanics, Sylveon's type, etc.) then we just shitpost fake leaks. Plus those starter leaks have given people the idea to try to make their own, maybe in hopes they'll get even one or two things right. See: "Real Leaks" anon
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>>28003762
first we could get new megas, nothing has said its not possible, and second op never claimed the image was real, and lastly there will be new moves there always are.

I'm not saying its real, hell I don't believe any of this, but you gotta remember, we "proved" the gen 5 starter evos were fake and that started the trend of /vp/ always being wrong. just be safe and don't rule anything out ever until its undeniably debunked
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>>28001767
>evolution to popplio
>water/fairy
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>>28004070
How exactly, do these people think GameFreak would handle making dozens of Pokemon unusable for literally no reason, if Mega evolution isnt involved?
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>Mega Gigalith

I WANT TO BELIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEVE
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>>28001767
haha, shut the fuck up!
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>>28003762
We need more people like you Anon
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>>28001767
>>Normal Type Z-Move is shown with Narkoala, Hyper Sprint.
that was already shown with Pikachu in a poke jap kiddy show
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>>28014468
Yeah, but the trailers do sometimes show information we got from other sources. Anyway, it does make more sense to show the Normal Z-move with an actual Normal-type.
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>>28004865
>Power Gem
>Solar Beam
>Hyper Beam
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>>28014516
This, plus Pokemon with Megas do sometimes get new moves for the Megas, right? Didn't Ampharos get some Dragon moves?
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>>28001767
>I don't need to explain myself, you won't believe me anyway.

No real leakers behave like this
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>>28001767
I want all of this to be real. Don't play with my feelings like this. It breaks my heart to know that these are fake.
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>>28003413
confirmed though
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>>28014595
It's true, though. When was the last time most of /vp/ believed a leaker who turned out to be real?
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>>28001767
Man...everyone wants Gyarados to be Water/Dragon type.

I'm pretty sure they made Mega Gyarados Water/Dark as a huge fuck you to the whiny-ass fanbase.
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>>28001767
How many new ice types total this gen, including alola forms?
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>Lithius, a Rock Type Captain. He is a philosopher studying Mega Evolution.
>Mega Evolution

confirmed fake
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>>28015267
>>28004070
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>>28002026
>trying this hard to fit in
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>>28002026
>saying Hi to reddit and not Fuck off
Reeeeee leave my board you redditfag or tolerant faggot
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>>28014893
I swear those guys and the ones that bitched about Charizard not being Fire/Dragon before the Mega are the most annoying people. I love Gyarados but all the bitching has left a sour taste in my mouth.
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>>28007538
How great would it be though if GF fixed shit megas via alola forms? New type(s) plus possibly redistributed stats would literally fix terrible megas.
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BEWARE OF FAKE LEAKS BABES!
-Dunno if Iwanko Has 3+ evo, I'm sure his evo are two: a rock/dark werewolf (he's huge atks) and a fairytale wolf rock/fairy ( a bulky wall)
-Persian Dark
Exeggcute Grass
Cubone Ghost/Fire
Gyradoss keep his fliyn type, no dragon.
- There are 'bout 40 new mega and 130 new pokemon (excluding alolan forms).
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>>28016069
We already know Alolan Exeggutor evolves from regular Exeggcute.
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>>28001767
i'm gonna say that while probably not true this fakeleak is believable
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almost all wrong this leak
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>>28001767
hhahahaha NO
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>>28006557
It happens simultaneously in every existing alternate universe in that precise day of the month
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People saying that the Komala evo can't be a Psychic type because Komala itself is indicated to be physically oriented seem not to be realizing that not all Pokemon of a type share the same statistical niche. Plus maybe we'll finally get some more physical Psychic type moves.
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>>28018855
Oh God, I hope so. Anyway, it would make sense- sleep in Pokemon seems to be Psychic-associated; just look at Abra.
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>>28018990
>Drowzee
>Hypno
>Cresselia
>Munna
>Musharna

Sleep-themed Pokemon are usually Psychic Type, with the exception being Darkrai, which is supposed to be pure evil, hence the Dark Type.

Also consider Caitlin, who's entire theme revolves around sleep and drowsiness.
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>>28019059
Didn't think of those! Also, isn't Rest Psychic-type?
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>>28019129
Rest, Hypnosis, and Dream Eater are Psychic Type.
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