Ready for some serious autism? So as I was looking at musdales

>>27948737
>literally MLP back legs
why are you even arguing your point if you're going to use cartoon horse anatomy

>>27948737
I'll put down my input later on, but OP, can you make sure your words are more legible in the picture.

>>27948737

>if it doesn't adhere precisely to its real life counterpart it's shit

when are you going to fuck off and kill yourself you insipid faggot

>>27948737
Fuck off bronyfag.
You can't fool me with that last drawing.

This applies to a lot of the old art/sprites too, if you look.

>>27948737
That isn't a horse. That's a Mudsdale. It is inspired by a horse, but it isn't a horse. Also, it's a cartoon character, of course the anatomy isn't going to be reflect reality. That's part of why cartoons are fun, the fantasy aspect.

Also, if you're going to blame a company for this, blame Game Freak, not Nintendo.

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>>27948771
Because even shitty ass mlp's art is better than this

>>27948822
Is that better?

>>27948826
Thats not the point anon, its that the art itself is shit

>>27948974
Okay, but you tried to counteract with realism by using the worst example ever of "it's a horse" anatomy by following MLP's guidelines.
If you want to make a proper argument, which you shouldn't because you neither have the skill to nor realize that it's a Pokemon and isn't supposed to be based an actual anatomy, research your subject first.

This would've gone across much better if you had copy pasted an actual photo of a horse and pointed stuff here and there out instead.

>>27948737
hey cool but check this out: it doesn't fucking matter. we're buying the game anyways and you probably are too.

find a better use of your time

>>27948974
Thanks and yeah I agree the art looks a bit off. At least the 3D model makes the legs look more even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKosBJ1Uko0

Why is all the art this gen so shit? Every Pokemon has terrible perspective. Bruxish or however you spell it is drawn side-on, two dimensional like a kid would draw it doesn't have its mouth open it isn't swimming or doing anything just sitting there

>>27948974
>>27948737
>>/mlp/

>>27948947
Im not trying to shit in mudsdale specifically even though I used it for this example. I really like its design
Its just the art that isnt really the best, and not just for mudsdale

>>27949085
Bruxish isnt that bad art wise

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>>27948737

>>27948737
You should draw an anatomically correct Mudsdale for us. Pls OP.

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>>27949450
Like this or actual horse?

Isn't it a mule/donkey and not a horse?

>>27948737
Nintendo doesn't draw the Pokemon :/. Also, their is nothing wrong with mudsdale

>>27948737
The fact that you mistook its chest for the hind leg... damn. You spent this much fucking time nitpicking and you couldn't even do it right. And then you felt the need to post it here.

>>27948737
While a lot of Pokemon are not anatomically correct, art's been kind of off this gen anyway. Been letting all the 3D models make my ultimate decisions this time.

Look, we get it. The art isn't good this gen. We fucking know that. It doesn't matter because Pokemon are 3D now, the designs are made for and look better in the models. Why won't you people get this?

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>>27948737
This is genuinely the biggest thing that bothers me about Mudsdale. I don't mind its design that much, but it's just drawn shittily.

Rapidash look great because it adhere's to anatomy and muscular structure a lot better. And no i'm not "durr hurr old gen da best", its just in this instance the old art was in fact drawn better.

It's not about it being cartoony either. You can be cartoony looking and be fine, but you need to adhere roughly to anatomy, if at least in an exaggerated way. As far as horses go, Blitzle is a good example of this.

>>27948974
Your corrected anatomy drawins is what's shit. You've completely changed Mudsdale's stance relative to the observer. We're now looking at its side more than its front.

Actually, I think you've just completely misunderstood the drawing of Mudsdale. I don't know how you managed, but I suspect some form of mental impairment is involved.

>>27948737
who cares tho

>>27949842
Horses don't lean forward like that.

You also drew it flat-footed and side-on. Nice cop-out.

>>27950117
Clydesdale, numbnuts.

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>>27950409
Hey man, never claimed to be good

>>27948737
Die you degenerate barneyfag

>>27948737
Ignore memers, OP. I enjoyed this and you're absolutely right. Also didnt realize how shit this was when I first saw the art. The height of the left front leg compared to the right is fucking laughable

Do more
Do more

>>27949047
Irrelevant. And don't be butthurt.

>>27951585
Which should I do next?

>>27951724

What's the shittiest mon in Gen7 so far that isn't mudsfag?

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this entire thread is made moot by the fact that mudsdale looks totally fine in 3D (linked here >>27949072 and also seen in the z-forms video)

>>27950342
except mudsdale fits draft horses pretty well

All the art of this gen is so flawed. Its like the artists never learnt how to draw in perspective or shade. As a designer this frustrates me to no end

>>27951771
The 3d model is fine
In fact most of the mons look way better 3d
Its just the art we're talking about

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>>27951770
The only other one that bothers me is Turtonator, but im just being nitpicky (pic related, really nitpicky)
Anatomy wise, it would just be speculative because I dont know jack shit about turtles

Id do more, but no other ones are as bad as mudsdale

>>27952073
Why would there be shading on the top of the hat if the light is from a low(ish) angle

>>27952159
He means that the way the hat is designed it would provide next to no shading on Turtonator's head at all.

Also Turtonator is a fucking stupid name

>>27952215
Since when do Pokemon names matter this much?

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Not OP, but the shading on the arm here is pure garbage.

>>27951771
>this entire thread is made moot by the fact that mudsdale looks totally fine in 3D

Not really, considering the entire thread is talking about the art.

>>27952432
Which arm?

>>27948737
The ears are fine. Look again.

>>27952432
>Plant of the shovel is off center towards the left of the tip ever so slightly

My OCD is flaring up so hard about that.

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>>27952432
Lmao they just took the brush tool and did a stroke down holy shit
And if the light is coming from the front why is that shaded anyways Jesus

>>27952485
It shouldn't be visable at that perspective

>>27948737
holy shit, the pose perspective on the artist's anatomical rendition is entirely different.
That's why this artist's so anal about anatomy, because they're dA trash that can only draw animals from the side and don't understand exaggerated perspective in the slightest.

Are you taking into account the foreshortening and perspective from the slightly turned angle?

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>all these strawmen
First mlp now the position I drew it in

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Crabrawler's legs bother me because, due to the thigh being longer than the lower leg, and the leg only having a single joint, walking forward would be difficult due to the fact that it would have a poor ability to adjust the point at which its leg touches the ground, relative to its body. It would also be completely incapable of climbing trees.

It would be able to walk sideways reasonably well, but given that this is supposed to be a boxing pokemon, I would think that they'd want it to be able to move equally well in all directions.

These problems could have been fixed simply by making its lower legs longer, or adding a second joint.

In the anime I'm guessing they're going to get around the climbing issue by just having its leg tips cling to surfaces by magic, rather than it wrapping its legs around the tree trunk like actual coconut crabs do.

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>>27948737
>anatomy is shit
you're just now noticing? they've never been able to draw ungulates right

>>27951521
Are you not OP?

>>27953862
I am

>>27954574
So you criticized the art based on your own artistic merit (yes, you did; you tried to deconstruct it on the basis of perspective, which requires a knowledge of perspective) and now you fall back on "I'm not an artist."

Well, it shows. Great thread.

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>>27954818
>never claimed to be good
>translates to "I'm not an artist."
Dropped

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>>27955213
Were you? Was it on your head?

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>>27950203
>Mistook its chest for its hind leg
Are you blind? I'm not OP and I can see that it's clearly a leg and not the chest. It is easier to tell without OP's annotations and also makes it clearer how the neck is messed up, so here's the original pic:

I'd never noticed it, but OP is actually right. Its legs are all sorts of fucked and I can't understand how there are people defending them.

>>27955877
Because it doesn't fucking matter.

>>27956127
It does. It means that GF has shit artists nowadays. A clear sign of declining quality.

reminder to report and sage stealth pony threads

>>27948737
OP is a fag

>>27956158
So images that won't even appear in the actual game aren't completely flawless. You're fucking retarded for caring about this shit.

I agree OP. The leg keeps putting me off, the way it is held up also ruins the silhouette. The back legs also slant weirdly, the whole artwork is wrong.
The design is fine though, it deserves a better main artwork.

>>27956293
>only care about what I care about or else you're shit
Good work

>>27956349
Nice projection.

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>>27956395
You too

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Besides the grass starter and that bandit lizard, none of the pokemon are interesting to me.

>>27948737
The new artists is shit - nothing new we all noticed pictures look fhorrible and they look all glorious in games.

>>27948737
>Ready for some serious autism?
Nope.

What the hell