Is your favorite mon competitively viable, /vp/? >tfw Reuniclus

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Absolutely. This girl hits so hard, and often times just an initial knock off KO is enough to get opponents to rage quit. Even if they don't, U-turn regenerator on such an offensively-powerfull pokemon is great, its stays alive for much longer than you'd expect.

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>>27937464
>girl

Also, yes. Feraligatr is extremely good in UU.

>>27937477
>UU
>Good
OU or bust. Not to mention Serperior is also in the same tier and beats the shit out of him.

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>>27937477
Yes, grill. My mienshao is femenine because I'm not into the sleek male monk look, not because I want to fuck it.

>>27937485
>OU or bust
>Serperior is in the same tier and beats the shit out of him
You know nothing about competitive pokemon aside from labels, do you?

>>27937373

Why aren't you running Trick Room sets with him?

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Yeah.It hits quite hard,but you better bewear of stealth rocks.I'm not ashamed of that pun

Lairon and Aggron aren't good in the tier I play but I keep using M Aggron with a shitty moveset becauseit's not fun to play with a team without pokemon I love

>>27937373
I dunno, i don't play competitive
Is Nidoking viable?

>>27937494
I could, but I also like using my Gengar in competitive battles and that would prevent me from doing so. Most other mons I like, bar Porygon2, are fast as well (Alakazam, Volcarona) and just wouldn't benefit from a Trick Room set

Is there any other way to make qt nucleus viable?

>Arcanine
I mostly play UU so yeah he's pretty cool

>>27937506
He's a very good special sweeper

>>27937485
You realize that UU is a step away from OU?

It's not like best alligator is in RU.

>>27937496
What moveset do you run on him? I have the standard smogonfag Quiver Dance/Fire Blast/Giga Drain/Bug Buzz with passho berry, but I often find myself unable to set up with Quiver Dance or just getting 2HKO'd by other mons.

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Definetely, and I fucking love it.

>>27937373
Parasect I hear can be used a semi competent healer? Spore and aromatherapy?

I don't play competitively, perhaps my tastes would be different if I did. Would be cool to see an aloha form for him though

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>>27937373
At least Reuniclus isn't PU

>>27937525
You need to find better opportunities to set up. Swap into special sweepers, that generally forces a swap or lets you tank easily. Either way, one quiver dance should be enough to outspeed and kill so many pokemon, you have to be doing something wrong

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It wasn't until ORAS, now I'm just super happy, its amazing how much the mega improved her. I really don't want megas to be retconned and lose her to PU again, being forced to run klutz switcheroo gimmick sets again

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>>27937373
Is drowzee or psyduck competitively viable?

>>27937556
Yeah, I don't know. It's true that when I manage to use Quiver Dance, I can at least 2HKO most of the mons I run into that aren't special walls, but most of the time I just can't manage to use Volcarona effectively.

I love Reuniclus too, wish I could pair it with Cofagrigus or something

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It's slowly fallen from grace each gen, but it's still a fairly unique mon with its uses.

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>>27937568
>her

because clearly it is just so hard to type out

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Yes, its an absolute sweeper that can decimate some powerfull cores in teams if played correctly, trully the bravest of birds.

>>27937588
What wrong with using a female pronoun on a pokemon with 75% female ratio? he's not saying all lopunnys are female you easily-triggered anon.

>>27937605
>skill link rock blast minccino breeder in 3 2 1

>>27937605
But, there's still that 25 percent, anon,

Unless it's one of the hitmons/another fighting type, it's stupid to just refer to a pokemon with he or her.

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Tfw your Pokemon and its Mega are both mediocre/useless in their respective tiers

>>27937525
I run pretty much the same set,but instead of the berry i have I have a focus sash

>>27937625
Yes, if you're refering to the species, what if that anon wasn't? you're really making this a much bigger issue than it should.

>has a mustache
>female
I never got this meme

>>27937631
Somebody suggested nerfing huge/pure power to only increase base attack twice, so mawile would have 210 Base attack instead of 259, do you think this could take it out of Ubers? because itd be usefull for sure in OU

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>>27937639
>referring to a specific lopunny

W E W
E
W

>>27937647
But then Azumarril is fucked

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>>27937552
I feel you man.

>>27937588
>implying you would piss your pants if someone called Braixen a he

>>27937678
fuck azumarill and cham anyways

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>>27937732
>implying i like braxien
>implying i'd ever even call braxien a she

>>27937588
>>27937625
>>>/tumblr/

>>27937664
>>27937754
You really are an easy-tirggerable autist, aren't you?

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He's pretty good. Too good for your shit format.

>>27937736
oh....okay...

>>27937767
what makes him uber again? I know he has really good stats and his U-turn hits hard but not sure what else

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>>27937766
No, I just think it's annoying. It's not like we're talking about Hitmonlee, who can only be male.

>Lanturn
Not actually very good, but decent typing, bulk, movepool and ability take it a long way to being playable at least. Running shit like Scald and Confuse Ray give it a chance at being as long-lasting and annoying as possible.

>Porygon-Z
Actually pretty good at what it needs to do. Not that viable in OU environment but still effective enough given some support.

>>27937772
Azumarill is a one trick pony, and mega medicham will be alright with its 200 base attack

And even then, azumarill with belly drum will still be good

>>27937781
But why si it annoying? take a second to realize what you're doing, you're getting unironically upset at somebody using a female pronoun to denote an imaginary creature, and you're not even sure if he means its species or its one sole individual. That is unbelievably autistic.

>>27937785
>>Porygon-Z
How do you deal with its low speed making it unable to land a hit and getting OHKO'd most of the time?

>>27937780
He can run Physical, Special, and Mixed with Choice or Expert Belt bluffing Choice, with a good offensive typing that gives good STAB coverage and a great movepool. Basically, you're forced to guess what set he has, and if you're wrong, he kills one or more Pokémon.

>>27937508
Pls respond

Is there no other way than trick room?

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It is not really good but I use it anyways. Fast and hits hard with specs/death orb. I can't ask any more. Always and forever.

>>27937736
>>27937647
Rude. Azumarill is a cutie.

>>27937794
You can always swap into something weak and usea agility, or run a choice scarf set for revenge killing and use download for boosts.

There's also the option of scarfed hyper beam with adaptability, that will never get old

>>27937793
>Azumarill
>One trick pony
You sure, man?

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>>27937793
It's blatantly, 'OH LOOK IT'S FEMALE XD CUZ I LOPUNNY GOT THEM THICC THIGHS.'


i'm also aware that this is unbelievably autistic

>>27937508
>>27937801
Reuniclus can hold its own without trick room, it deals massive damage and can OHKO many things when its paired with life orb + magic guard... but you'll need trick room or knock off will fuck you up

You can alternatively run a bulkier set, dealing less damage and using leftovers+regenrator to stay alive much more time.

>>27937823
Those are some baseless assumptions you got there anon, you're looking more and more like the bad guy in this situation

>>27937819
I'm aware some people use assault vest azumarill, but 80% of users go with the same belly drum aqua jet, super power and play rough set.

>>27937834
I see, thanks

Wouldn't it be stupid to trade Magic Guard for Regenerator? Why not just include Recover in its moveset and give it leftovers?
In which case, will the lack of life orb be a liability or will Reuniclus still be able to deal a lot of damage?

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Yes. Tangrowth makes it onto most of my teams, I love it so much.

>>27937373
>tfw Reuniclus is mediocre at best
Are you retarded?

Defensive Reuni is a monster in OU and I have used him before to annoy the shit out of teams with a lack of scizor/weavile.

Even if they do have those mons, I can trap at least one of them and reuni can tank the other if I am running the acid armor variant.

Reuni is a beast if you use him right.

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>>27937834
>the bad guy

>>27937854
>Defensive Reuni
What moveset and EV spread are you giving it? I thought Reuniclus was much better at special sweeping given its high SpAtk
I'm not that good at competitive though, sorry if I'm asking stupid shit

>>27937849
Regenerator allows you to get some passive healing when you're cornered, say, you get U-turned, lose a bunch of health, and he swaps in a dark/ghost type, you have to swap, so regenerator can help.

Magic guard is more versatile, but when it comes to survival you need regenerator, that way you can run support moves instead of recover, and let leftovers and regnerator do the job of healing for you

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I mean, If I put tri attack and shadow ball on him then he's viable, just not THAT viable
>There will never be a pseudo split evo porygon-3

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>>27937877
>using tri attack
>not hyper beam for 300BP insta KO on everything
Disgusting misuse of the best ducke

>>27937841
And the Choice band set. There is also a defensive set with sap sipper, scald and something more.

>>27937886
>Ducke
>Not 3Duck
Disgusting

>>27937874
Oh, okay. The only problem is if I get passive damage from status or weather, but I guess that's not that important, is it?

>>27937877
>pseudo split evo porygon-3
I want this so much. A 600 bst mixed wall with decent offensive capabilities would be amazing.

>>27937841
I run it with Choice band and consistently fuck shit up, fuck Belly Drum

>>27937887
Then huge power being nerfed wouldn't affect much, would it?

>>27937900
Weather is almost never an issue, and most status wont matter too much on a pokemon like reuniclus, you can just swap to get rid of the effects of toxic, and burn is a joke. Try stuff for yourself and see what works for you.

>>27937886
>Implying my setup isn't tri-attack, hyper beam, shadow ball, and ice beam
Hyper beam is a given with 3Duck

>>27937934
>hyper beam and tri attack
For what purpouse? use a boltbeam, dark pulse and hyper beam set you scrub. Dark pulse lets you flinch and hits the same for the same damage, and boltbeam is near perfect coverage on its own

>>27937948
>not using tri-attack for the status effects alone

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>>27937974
>using tri attack for status effects
What is wrong with you?!

>>27937926
Alright then, thanks again. Defensive Reuniclus sounds fun and will probably work well with my Pory2 so I'll do that

>>27937982
Tri Attack saved my ass yesterday when it froze a togekiss for three turns and allowed me to finish it off while my HP bar was in the red

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He's alright.

He's actually usable in OU, because he has a good niche shutting down things like M-Lopunny and M-Medicham hard, and he's a decent wall in his own right with a few good tricks. Knock Off being everywhere makes his life hard though, as does a lack of recovery options.

>>27937926
Obviously it would. Don't be dumb.

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he's great at killing genies and garchomps and often OHKOs with knock off when I predict the switch

>>27937373
My favorite is Latios but funnily enough I don't use it for competitive since Tyranitar invalidates it most of the time to bring the game to 5-6.

Do you guys play on the battle spot or exclusively on showdown?

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It has a good movepool but that's pretty much it. I guess it's somewhat usable in sandstorm teams.

>>27938450
I only recently got into competitive, so I've been using showdown exclusively. When I get S&M though, I plan on using that instead.

>>27938450
Personally a bit of both, though I haven't played on battle spot regularly since XY. I'm sure I'll get back into it with sun/moon though

>>27938450
I play against random passerbys, battle spot is boring. I use showndown just for teambuilding

>>27937525
Instead of gigs drain, I run hurricane with leftovers, to give it that extra bulk. Life Orb isn't bad either. I usually end up getting walked by other Volcarona, so hurricane allows me to hit them effectively. It's also nice neutral damage on anything it's STABs miss.

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Not really, but I'm confident he'll get something cool in Alola.

>>27938502
Hurricane doesnt cover volcaronas stabs. Its also inaccurate and doesnt even ohko opposing volcarona unboosted. Giga drain is needed against rock and water types

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>>27937373
oh!! Reuniclus is my favourite too
I miss when knock off wasn't good

>>27937525
physically defensive quiver/dual stab/roost, can usually grab a boost when they switch and play the flame body game until I'm not at risk of 2hko and boost more and just muscle through the lack of coverage

>>27938626
Giga drains covers more pokemon for super effective damage then hurricane, however hurricane alongside volcarona's stabs only leave 9 pokemon that will resist all 3 of the move.

>>27938680
Doesn't roost make it lose a lot of momentum

>>27938662
Not a lot of teams run knock off, not on the battle spot at least
Do you just use your bro in-game?

>>27938694
It does slow down the pace, but with just one quiver you can deal with a lot of other common setup sweepers. Though with a defensive spread and little coverage you won't be cleaving through teams without at least 2 or 3 quivers so roost/leftovers help you survive until you reach that point
And like I said, it allows you to make much better use of flamebody which will turn any 2hko into a 4 and give you the chance to build those boosts.

>>27938767
are you sure? I barely do online battling but whenever I've battled in the battle spot my Reuniclus always gets hit by knock off
maybe it's just my bad luck
perhaps I'll give it a shot again sometime

No, Smeargle is a pussy ass nigga.

>>27938823
You might just be unlucky
I often use Gengar and even though it's weak as fuck to knock off, I rarely have to worry about it.
What set do you run for your Reuniclus?

>>27938839
Isn't there some gimmick set with Lock On and Sheer Cold?

>>27938844
In most cases smeargle wont live long enough to pull that off

>>27938870
What if you give it Spore + focus sash? It's still shit though, I guess
I think it also has its use as a sticky web user

What the fuck is with smogon now

Last time I played there was 5 tiers, Ubers, OU, UU, RU and NU

Now there is 50

>>27937506
He's B+ rank in OU, beating actual OU pokemon such as Raiku or Klefki

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Yes.
>inb4 haha edgy kiddo

>>27938880
Yeah dark void/spore/sticky web sash lead is propably the most common but is shut down by antileads/grass types/substitute users. Im not saying its not usable, its just easily countered.

>>27938907
haha edgy kiddo

>>27938893
There is literally one new tier

>>27938893
Because there can only be around 50 viable Pokemon in each tier, so new tiers have to get created when new Pokemon come out.

>>27938893
PU is the only new tier

>>27937373
Mega Absol is pretty darn good once it Mega evolves and gets SD up. Meowstic, well, Prankster is good, but sill it hurts man.

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He's one of the fastest in the game, decently bulky and has a good defensive typing, and he hits pretty hard with brave bird or acrobatics. Plus curse and white herb with acrobatics is a good combo.

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>>27937373
No but its evo sees use.

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I miss Gen IV
:(

>>27938844
yeah but those moves are gay, I only use stuff like celebrate.

>>27938893
is counting to six really that hard
Gen 1 had 3 tiers (U, OU, UU)
Gen 2 had 3 tiers (U, OU, UU)
Gen 3 had 4 tiers (U, OU, UU, NU)
Gen 4 had 4 tiers (U, OU, UU, NU)
Gen 5 had 5 tiers (U, OU, UU, RU, NU)
Gen 6 had 6 tiers (U, OU, UU, RU, NU, PU). AG is basically just BL0, not a tier.

In general there was a new tier every couple of generations, but 6 ended up needing one more on its own because Gen 5 introduced so fucking many Pokémon and Megas made things more complicated.

>>27939040
>Plus curse and white herb with acrobatics is a good combo.

That sounds interesting, I'll give it a shot

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>tfw

>>27939461
Is it really that good? What does it have going for it aside from speed?

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BOW TO ME

>>27938160
I use this guy for trick room. Priority haze and fast tanks have resulted in so many ragequits. It's amazing

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>>27937373

They've always just kind of been a worse Gengar.

...Then again, you can say that about like 90% of Ghost types.

Seriously, I like Gengar, but fuck Gengar. Why does it have to be such a fucking creator's pet.

Is Arcanine competitively viable? How about non-Mega Blastoise?

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>>27937373
She's unfortunately shit, and Leaf Storm doesn't do shit.

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>>27940057
Unova bros for life!

>>27940057
What world do you live in?! she's amazing

>>27940057
retard

>>27940057
Serperior's hidden ability was enough to bring it to ou because leaf storm gives it a free +2 special attacl boost

>>27940131
>>27940146
>Serperior's Hidden Ability: Contrary
Ahh, don't you guys get the joke?

>>27940057
You're pretty bad my man

But you have good taste in pokemon

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>>27940100
Mar nigga, life orb Skill link Jolly Cinccino can sweep unprepared teams

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>>27937373
Thankfully yes, the Mega was probably the greatest thing that could happen to it. I run mine with Shadow Sneak and Skill Swap. Shit's fun.

Runner-up is Azumarill.

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Yeah, its very good and I love how much of an amazing tank it is. If only people wouldn't just scream smogonfag every time I mention it.

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>>27940226
>>27940100
Life Orb is good, but King's Rock is the most fun.

>>27939785
Gengar is frail as fuck, mine always gets OHKO'd or 2HKO'd

>>27939629
It's the perfect storm of stats, movepool and typing (in order of importance).
It can run a lot of different sets and a lot of different items, you can tailor its standard movesets for your team if you need to hit a specific threat (e.g. Thunderbolt for Gyarados).

As an example, consider its offensive Rapid Spin set. It has the typing to make use of STAB Psyshock to hit Gengar (the most relevant spinblocker), it has Rapid Spin, it's faster than Gengar and just powerful enough to kill even 248 HP Gengar even with no Life Orb.
I'm so glad my favourite is good.

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>fairly good movepool
>strong specs attacker with decent speed
>surprise magic bounce that catches ou smogonfags off guard
Why is he NU again?

>>27940566
Shitty overall stats, shallow movepool and bad type combo, aside from being outclassed by things like espeon, cleffable, M-absol and M-sableye

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Gen 6 blessed it with fairy type and a powerful mega.

>>27940418

So does Mismagius, though.

Eviolite Misdreavus has some good bulk, but it's still outclassed by things like Cofagrigus, Spiritomb, Eviolite Dusclops, hell even Dusknoir.

>>27940449
Sounds pretty based. I've never given much attention to Starmie outside of its design.
What are its most popular sets? Does it fit with every team, even those focused on defense?
>>27940704
>Spiritomb
I was under the impression that Spiritomb was shit, though

>>27940730
spiritomb has great bulk, one of the best typings in the game, and decent coverage. His problems are bad ability and shitty speed, its still pretty good.

>>27940600
Those mons don't the amazing and skillful move that is air slash though :^)
>>27940730
Spiritomb has good bulk for a ghost type, access to willo, sucker punch, and shadow sneak.
Top tier ru mon imo

>>27940809
Their moves deal more damage though

>>27940730

Honestly I don't know, I was just naming defensive Ghosts off the top of my head. Maybe it's not really outclassed by Spiritomb or Dusknoir.

But Cofagrigus is just straight-up better minus its Speed, Dusclops is much better as a wall, and of course Mega Sableye.

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Has pretty viable niche, even has an ubers set-up for singles. Great in vgc, though less so with the new meta

Can Slowking be competitively viable?

>>27937631
what are you talking about? Regular mawile is A rank in PU

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>>27940730
Starmie will always want max speed, where to put the other EVs and which ability to use depends on its role.

A defensive oriented set would have Recover, Scald (for burns), Rapid spin and something else. Psyshock, Reflect Type and Ice Beam are common choices.
248 HP EVs, the rest in SpA or SpD. Natural Cure means you can switch in and out on status moves, it's my ability of choice in general.

An offensive set would instead have Hydro Pump, Psychic/Psyshock, Rapid Spin and a coverage move. Life Orb is great, my item of choice.
People say Analytics is good for the 30% boost when people switch something in against it, but I still like Natural Cure here because my teams tend to be weak to status in general. It matters against very bulky stuff like Rotom, and in general it makes your predictions easier since even a neutral hit on a switch-in hurts that much more.

Investing in HP is a waste with Life Orb, so usually I go 252 SpA. You can combine SpA investment and Leftovers instead of Life Orb, but the power drop is noticeable since Starmie only has base 100 Special attack.

You can also run weird sets like Trick Choice Specs, or Toxic stall with Recover. The Reflect Type set is probably the most versatile set, since with its speed you can get up Reflect Type fast, and thus stacking weaknesses doesn't matter as much. You'll still want to be careful with your switches if you do, though.
Bring something to switch in on Electric-types, they're your worst enemy.

>>27940928
choice band giga impact only with max investment in attack
>>27940856
Who cares about damage output when air slash flinches 100% of the time?

>>27937373
How do you make Pangoro viable?

He doesn't have mach punch and is slow as shit, I've been using a subsalac set to quickly improve his speed at the cost of his hp then drain punch but he gets BTFO after getting 0-2 kills.

>>27941224
Xatu isn't togekiss

>>27941240
Choice band/life orb wallbreaker. Hit and run works pretty well

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You can't spell Metagross without meta

>>27941191
Wow, thanks for the long reply, now I want to try out Starmie. Do you use it in all your teams considering how versatile it is?

>>27941294
can life orb/choice band really make him strong enough to be the win condition?

>>27941317
You can't spell it without gross either
just kidding it's a cool mon

>>27941317
You can't spell metagross without "gross"

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Sableye is good, but predictable. I love him either way.

>>27941333
Not everything needs to be a win condition, anon. You have six pokemon each (sorry if you're playing 3v3), if it gets one or even two kills it has done its duty.

>>27941318
At least half my teams have Starmie. There are a lot of other psychic and water types I like, so it can be a struggle. Steel losing its Dark and Ghost resistance especially hurt, but I manage since I also like a lot of Dark-types.

>Simisage and Noivern
Simisage is trash in competitive, but Noivern can set up Tailwind, and has access to Draco Meter/Hurricane, however it's incredibly frail that it'll die to an Ice Shard/Icy Wind/Powder Snow.

Well, typhlosion (favorite) is pretty trash (RU), but blaziken and rayquaza (2nd and 3rd favorites) is good (ubers)

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I don't even know tbqh familia

>>27941224
How's that Slowking competitive?

>>27941753
AV + scald and 3 moves can be a surprisingly powerfull utility pokemon, but its has many ocunters and its very slow. Be sure to use regenerator wisely to keep it alive

>that feel when my favorite is Haxorus
Literally the shittiest dragon
I run guillotine on him for trolling but other than that he's the opposite of viable

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>>27938275
You forgot they're also cute, anon. I run a Focus Sash one with Swords Dance. If they don't attack, I get to do it again. If I live, I just press the button for Ice Shard or an attack. Scary strong.

>>27943463
>shittiest dragon
>not Druddgion
>not flygon
>not pre-mega Altaria

>>27940928
I use it. It's fantastic. It's basically a SpD oriented Slowbro with Dragon Tail

>>27943610
Eh. Even then it's mediocre at best, and unusable in competitive

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>>27943573
Weavile is a cute
also thanks for the pic

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M-Gardevoir is cool
Regular isn't great but is entirely usable.

>>27937614
Hi thats me

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>tfw he's actually very useable in the only teir that matters
>tfw it takes a little skill so you always have room for improvement
I can't get enough of pokemon that look like stroppy teenagers, luxio is tied with zangoose for cutest pokemon ever designed

>>27943877
I like Zangoose too haha

>>27937373

>If a Pokemon isn't OU it's trash

Reinuclus is a beast in UU and has a niche in OU of bypassing chansy as a special attacker with STAB psychoshock as well as bulk

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>>27943894
I don't like the connotations of this post
delete it right now

>>27943610
druddigon at least has a niche in trick room
haxorus has basically nothing

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yes

>>27937485
Gator's viable in OU though.

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he's ok

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my boy is alive and well

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>>27943941
no

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>>27944221
If you download this image you are REQUIRED BY LAW to delete those posts

>>27943734
Anything for a fellow Weavile lover mate. Good luck with more matches.

>>27941400
sure you can: MetaX

fuck of and die a painfully dead and everyone who hates on the best mon of all time, faggot.

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>>27937373
Hell yeah.

>>27944194
>Ruined design by it's mega-form

2nd favorite mon, I just use it's normal form, the mega looks like an ugly belly dance girl instead of a badass meditating monk master.

>>27944308
>implying it doesn't look like a badass meditating monk form
What is wrong with you? mega cham looks even more like a badass monk. You can argue its ugly but the design itself follows everything medicham had, and remains ambiguous genderwise

>>27944308
i personally really like the mega, but that is probably just me. its been my favorite mon since d/p, and i think the mega just made it cooler.

>>27943699
How do you use it? Can't find a set that I like....

>>27944308
I honestly think the mega looks way better also

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Only the mega and it's still UU and likely to drop in the next gens due to powercreep.

>>27940302
Does Kings Rock's flinch chance get activated with every hit? So it's a 20% X 5 chance?

>>27944414
yes,each hit

>>27943730
Is there really no way to make Haxorus viable?

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Not at all.

>>27944427
It isn't that haxorus can't work, because it obviously has ddance and a monster attack stat
It's just that other dragons do it better
the moves it gets that differentiate it from other dragons are the moves of a defensive/gimmick pokemon, things like taunt, guillotine, endeavor, counter; they don't take advantage of its attack power
it's a weird pokemon

>>27944689
>other dragons do it better
Because higher stats? Haxorus lacks speed, right?
But other than that, I can actually use it in a battle spot team without it becoming a liability?

>>27944280
Wew

>>27944748
yeah slightly too slow and only one stab, can't go mixed, defenses mediocre
But yeah using haxorus won't cripple you or anything

>>27944748
not just that, mainly because of abilities: salamence has intimidate and moxie, dragonite has multiscale, and garchomp can do dragon dance with his swords dance since it already has such a high speed.

>>27937583
>tfw gengar, starmie, jolteon, snorlax and zapdos were always in OU until Gen V Fighting-types took Snorlax down to UU and Gen VI's Mega-Manectric took Jolteon down to RU

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Unviable without megastone, OP with it.

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Time hasn't been good on him, but he still has a niche role in UU and can hold his own in OU if need be. Unfortunately OU and UU are riddled with powerful fighting types that make using him a bit of a difficult prospect, but no one can keep this fat fuck from me.

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>>27937373
Pic plus Mawile are my favorites.
Pangoro can be pretty good depending on the opponent's team. Recently wrecked someone's shit with it on Uber showdown.
Mawile is really good competitively, that attack stat is through the roof with it's mega evo.

>>27944807
>>27944826
Yeah, I get it. And he doesn't have any niche at all? That sucks.
Well, if using my bro won't cripple me at least then it's fine.

>>27944194
my nigga

>>27944860
Sadly, not OP enough.

can misdreavus, leavanny or buizel be viable? I have a long list of bros.

>>27945334
he has one, very narrow niche in vgc, although not 2016. He has unnerve, which can work with things like dark void smeargle in a lead if you need a power hitter and something to stop lum berry from working at the same time. Stops sitrus berry as well. No applications in singles as far as I can see.

>>27945970
Yeah, that's a pretty small niche.
I just saw that Smogon places it in OU only because it's a decent sweeper with very high attack. OU means a lot of people use it, right?

>>27946029
Yes you can use it in OU or UU at smogon.It is not used much in OU but sees use in UU where its speed is good enough. Moldbreaker gives it a way to work in OU, like versus rotom. This is my understanding anyway, I am mostly a spectator at smogon.

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Not really.

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Suicide Spikes setter is just so lack luster

>>27946029
I think that's what OU means. Literally overused meaning it's commonly used. But then again people do play other tiers like UU (underused), but Smogon states you can't use OU, BL (Borderline) and obviously Uber tier Pokemon, however you can use lower tier Pokemon like a UU in OU.

>>27946148
Alola soon, stalker.

>>27946259
>4x weak to Fire and Fighting
It better have something good up its sleeve.

>>27946211
The fact that it's OU means that people are choosing to use it over better alternatives like Chomp, Dragonite and Salamence though

>>27946377
I for one am excited. I switched my monotype team from fire to ice. Can't wait to bust the guy out for the first time since Yellow+Gold

>>27945665
Yeah, one of those Pokemon that are too powerful for OU but shit in Ubers. Maybe they should make a bordeline between Ubers and OU.

>>27937373
No, chatot is a shitmon.

>>27940952
I was not aware it dropped a tier. Thnx anon, should try it out

I want to build a Reuniclus team but I'm clueless. Help me anons

>>27946681
>making a tier for 3 Pokémon

>>27939309
pair it up with Curse/Pass Umbreon so it can share the fun, and even White Herb/Unburden Hitmonlee as a partner. Shit is lit

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What do you think?

>>27946684
Specs Boomburst/Chatter Chatot is terrifying in its tier

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I should probably stop my sandslashfagging to actually drop my preference.

Thank you Alola for bringing my favorite poke in line with my favorite type. Now I can stop being a Fire trainer and start being an ice trainer like I always wanted to be.

My classic Ninetales is staying in my line/main team though, since that baby's been with me since Gen 3 and was the culmination of my craziest breeding program. Now I can just have one for my monotype team as well.

As for competitive, idk, not really but I try to make it work anyway. My classic is set up to switch in to tank a fire move for flash fire, Hypnosis on the hopefully forced switch, and Nasty Plot its way to Heat Wave/Energy Ball victory.

Not sure what I'll do for the Ice/Fairy one. My biggest hope is that pre-Gen 7 pokemon can take on Alola forms, but I know it's unlikely.

>>27947300
I would say skip the Hypnosis and just use Nasty Plot on the switch, you get an extra moveslot and don't have the "oh fuck Hypnosis missed" moments.

>>27947691
I run Lens on it too for the acc boost (mostly because I'm stubborn and bred Heat Wave onto it before I knew Flamethrower was just better) so it hits at least somewhat reliably, but really I just don't know what I'd put in it's place. Will'o'wisp? Confuse Ray? I had been experimenting with a Will'o'Hex set at one point but it had mixed results,

>>27947764
Will o Wisp or another coverage move. I'm sure you've heard people bitching about Talonflame Will o Wisp before.

>>27946822
Reuniclus team? Probably trick room

>>27937373
>tfw Reuniclus is mediocre at best
good. I hated that shit when it came out.

>>27948319
How can you hate him?

What's Reuniclus supposed to be anyway? It looks like a fetus stuck in jelly.

>>27937583
>fags try to burn my assault vest snorlax and he uses facade on them

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>>27937373
Corsola is Garbage, the only way I've been able to kill something is with sash+Mirror coat

>>27944414
King's Rock's flinch chance is only 10%, so a proc chance from a 5-hit move should be roughly 41%.

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>tfw fallen from grace hard
I remember suicide lead days that people had to run sash machamps and occa metagross.
I made tons of sets using it, mixed wall breaker, anti lead, lefties number somewhat bulky mon. I was known as the crazy azelf guy on pojo and abras asylum 2010-2011

>>27950348
I'm using Corsola in a runthrough of a pretty tough romhack and she's one of my MVPs
Just stay up on your Recovers and only come in on shit that dies to Rock

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I use him on my OU team and he's pretty fun as a lead to screw around with fighting types

>>27950928
What's a typical moveset on protean Kecleon?

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I don't play comp, and I a got a bunch of favs, but how good is tentacruel? Loved using him so far in my oras play through.

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If it only got 10 more Speed and a Bug-Typed Thunder Equivalent.

>>27944853
Smogonfrogs ban saved starmie. Zapdos is going down next.

>>27950998
I run shadow sneak, drain punch, knock off, and facade if he gets burned. I generally lead with shadow sneak to trick up anything with a fighting move

You can also run sucker punch or fake out as well

>>27951200
Good special def especially with the decline of psychic attacks.

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Eh

>Unfezant

It is, honestly. I run it as my RU lead half the time. Tailwind, Return, Hypnosis, and U-Turn.

Obviously it's not as good as any RU lead, but it's a nice surprise to people. Focus Sashed so I can set up a free Tailwind then go for some pretty good damage/sleep.

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probably not

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I wouldn't think so, what would a good moveset be for him? Besides steath rock, that is.
I figured storm drain with his moveset being stockpile/barrier/amnesia for a defense boost, along with energy ball or giga drain, recover, and either brine, toxic, or infestation. And maybe pair with a surfer to get some spatk boosts

>>27937373
Pelipper, hell no

>>27953365
storm drain is good in doubles/triples if you have team members weak to water, and running giga drain on it against water types also helps a lot

>>27953803
Looked into him a bit more, figured using a big root along with ingrain and giga drain could give him really good recovery, and infestation could deal reliable damage to anything resistant to grass, right?

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I dedicate this post to all of those whose favorite pokemon is a NFE.

>>27937539
This is a 10/10 sableye.

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>>27944029
outmatched in singles but perfectly viable for doubles

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Yes, but he only has one real gimmick. If you aren't using him to head smash shit there are better options since he almost always needs time to set up with either a d dance or rock polish.

>>27940302
I just used this and got some dude so heated on showdown

>>27941191
Another interesting thing about Starmie is how relatively uncommon it was until about Gen V for fast Pokemon (101 at least) with high special attack to have a really powerful usable STAB move instead of some base ~90 thing. You had Infernape's Fire Blast / Overheat and Latis' Draco Meteor, which have drawbacks or less great typing. These kind of moves let an only medium-high looking Sp Attack like Starmie actually hit about as hard as Alakazam using Psychic, considered the quintessential special attacker.

It's a bit more common to see that stuff now, but fast water types are still rare as shit. Keldeo trades some speed for an even higher Sp. Attack but is inflexible as fuck, and Simipour is Simipour. The big competitor was Greninja by far until it got saltbanned for having Gunk Shot.

>>27954262
He makes a great baton pass target

>>27956757
>Greninja and Genesect got banned for being too unpredictable
>you can't baton pass speed and something else and you can only have one baton passer

When will Smogon die?

>>27946935
spinda best

>>27951200
It's good, OU I think.

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>>27937373
Nope, Vileplume is better.

>>27950801
>one of the most forgettable legendaries is someone's favorite
This makes me happy

>Breloom
He ways has been