I've been supporting ash all day today, but now I realize

also post cool Charizard fan art

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>>27890811
Charizard is a fat lovable dragon that always tries his best.

>>27890811
>I will fight with my region team because we have a bond
>I will start the next region from zero, fuck my loser team
Yeah man, that charizard that defeated articuno and held its own against entei is clearly a loser

>>27890811
Charizard fucking sucks.

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>>27891538
Really? Care to let us know why?

>>27891580
He meant to say "The Pokemon Company fucking sucks Charizard's cock"

>>27891538
>The autistic MC lost, I hate everything

>>27891615
You really couldn't summarize that bettet.

>>27891510
That Entei wasn't even a normal Entei. It was an Entei that could become as strong as it needed to be, and it's power source was all of the Unown which were capable of warping reality and creating dimensions. It just makes Charizard more impressive than Greninja.

If he does save Ash's ass during the TF Arc, then all it does is show how he's still Ash's ultimate ace and Ash-Greninja is pointless.

>>27893814
I really hope this happens + Z-type Charizard. That way Allan will now know that Ash was limiting himself to his Kalos Pokemon+ Pikachu

>>27890855
It's the original Dream World art.

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>>27890811

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>>27893966
Why do you want Alan to suffer when he's trained way more then Ash? Ash did nothing to win, things just happened to him.

Charizard is overshilled trash. It's no better than Lucario.

>>27890811
didn't he lose his first league for his charizard?

>>27894026
Mine will be named Batman.

>>27893966
>Ash was just pretending!

>>27891615
>>27893631
>Charizard's
>Not Pikachu's or Greninja's

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>>27890811
Literally a fire type Lucario, kill yourself op, liking overrrated mons like Charizard is a very clear symptom of autism

>>27894142
>hates something because it's popular
>still likes Greninja probably
>Literally more liked then Arceus in Japan, by the shittiest demographic

>>27894117
not really. In any case, Ash combining his approach in DP and his tactics in XY&Z would proabably beat Allan.

I find it hard that his A-team would lose to Allan.

>>27894063
OG winning against Millennial.
Fucking loving their tears.

>>27894167
charizard IS overrated though, faggot.

>>27894167
>Implying I like Greninja
Nah Greninja fucking sucks too

>>27894063
Ash's Charizard has trained....way way more than his.


Also given its personality, It would probably have an edge to it because it's trying to one up another one's Charizard.

>>27894026
>>27894063
Pokemon origins already foreshadowed the outcome. Maybe Alan = EdgyRed?

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>>27891510
>"held its own" against entei

It literally got curb stomped.

>>27894274
This. It's like Satoshi didn't know his own Lizardon could've pushed itself to become better than Allan's.

>>27894252
Not on this board. Here it's underrated by far.

>>27894373
That "Entei" wasn't real, though. Given its origin, it's as powerful as it can be due to the unown's retarded powers.

>>27894274
The amount of training Ash's pokemon have done seems inversly proportionate to the amount of time they spend with him.

Fuck Charizard, at this point Butterfree, Primape, or Tauros #17 could have soloed the entire league in one sitting.

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>>27894374
Ash's charizard is just an angry midget. Alain's would tear it to pieces.

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>>27894229
So what?
Many other Pokémon were bigger, Dragonite for instance. Still weaker.

Also Pokédex size is pretty much random like the descriptions. We'll see if SM will get it right with in battle trainers.

>>27894442
Never underestimate the rage a manlet can build up.

>>27894442
Literally Vegeta to Pikachu's Goku.

>>27894442
He got bigger after that.

>>27894480
This.Ash's Charizard is a legend; can sense his master being in danger, can defeat Legendaries and most important of all, doesn't back down from a legit challenge.

>>27894429
>Tauros #17
>Not based Tauros #3

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OP here. Let's just appreciate Charizard for what it is. A cool fire dragon from our childhoods. Because that's all I ever want it to be.

>>27894540
>not his Haunter friend.

>>27894467
manlet detected

>>27894569
This. And he may have been gotten more love fromthe company than the others, but this was a result of his popularity, not the opposite. People need to remember this when comparing him with other shilled pokémon.

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>>27894890
I'm pretty average. Still taller then Pokédex Charizard, but as you can see nobody gives a fuck about Pokédex sizes, not even the game.

>>27896082
Fuck, that charizard is probably 3 meters tall.

>>27896082
>>27896174
Pokédex confirmed for shit non only in the descriptions then.

>>27896206
Unless those sizes are just averages, implying there are Charizards smaller then 1.7 meters (because we already have the confirmation that some are taller).

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>Ash forges the Ultimate Bond not with Pikachu or Charizard, but with Greninja

Ash fucking got what was coming to him. At least Allan knows who his true bro is.

>>27896384
People here used to love shiny Charizard, regarding it as "god tier shiny". Now Mega Charizard X is "edgy" because it's black. Fuck me.

>>27891026
He always does, I remember how stoked I was when Charizard didn't instantly lose to Mewtwo clone charizard back in the first movie unlike the other two starters.

>>27896605
actually it's edgy because of the blue fire, wings made of literal edges, and spikes, along with being black.

>>27896659
This much denial. Charizard has edges and clasw too. And a blue flame is not edgier then a red one.
Blue is a kind color compared to red. By this kind of logic shiny Charizard is edgier.

>>27896605
For me it's the blue fire on the mouth, Y is fine.

>>27896836
Y is so much better I wish X didnt exist