HOLY SHIT, WORLD TOURNAMENT SET IN KANTO BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND

>>27874124
>jobfrog

>Greninja
>Krookodile
Greninja proved his ass can't come through in the clutch. And no way is Shades in over Infernape.

Drop Greninja for Infernape and Krookodile for Swellow or something.

>>27874124
Forgot how based his krookodile was, if only he wasn't in the worst season

>>27874124
Put Infernape instead of Killer Croc and you have a decent team.

>>27874124
>where is kingler?

Hawlucha has to be there

>>27874124
He also has Goodra. Even if it was shit in the end, while Noivern kind of won against Zapdos.

Reminder that Shitzard forfeited Ash's first league to a Charmander

Replace Snorlax with Infernape and Charizard with Heracross

Infernape has to have a spot. Without a doubt his best fire type

>>27874124
I never watched Unova but apparently it was a nonstop QUALITY trainwreck. Spoon-feed me on why Krookodile is there.

>>27874308
then he won ash's second league

also he forfeited against pikachu iirc

>>27874308
>In the Dengeki Pikachu manga Ash forfeited the first league because his Charizard almost killed Ritchie's

WHY ARE ANIME WRITERS SUCH HACKS?

>>27874124
Muk was bro-tier. He should come back.

>no darkhorse smugleaf

>>27874308
>Being so good that he doesn't give a shit about the League
>Not Ash's greatest Pokemon

>Win him the Orange League
>Not Ash's greatest Pokemon

>Beat his ultimate rival's Blastoise
>Not Ash's greatest Pokemon

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>>27874124
>Snorlax
Sorry my man but ain't no way he'll make it to the final build.

>>27874438
>press attract to win

>>27874124
put a Unova pre-evo pokemon and remove the chokeninja

>>27874347
>replacing Snorlax

>>27874124
>shitninja

>>27874391
He never won any league for Ash and never made it further than top 16. You're thinking of the Orange Islands challenge that is basically the Special Olympics of the league.

Infernape took Ash to the seminfinals and is strictly his best performing fire type.

>>27874373
Krookodile was his best Unova Pokemon. I actually watched that season in spades so I myself don't know how many times he used his Krookodile and won really.

>>27874466

Snorlax has always been Ash's pinch hitter.

He's a good choice to keep it from being starter hell.

>>27874124
No heracross or donphan or kingler?
Dude you a faggot

>>27874466
Snorlax usually takes out 2 pokes.

>>27874124
Where's the proof about the World Tournament? You just baiting, anon?

>>27874465
Pikachu won Ash the Orange League, by taking out the Dragonite that pounded faggotzard's ass.

>>27874582
remove pikafail

>>27874347
You're literally retarded for BOTH of those suggestions.

>>27874373
Krookodile was his best Unova mon, but thats not really high praise

>>27874582
pikachu climbed in dragonites mouth and electrocuted it right, or was that a dengeki pikachu only thing?
>>27874347
>Replace Snorlax with Infernape
maybe
> and Charizard with Heracross
okay

>>27874124
Drop Frogger for Infernape or Heracross.

>all these Infernapefags

Can you guys fuck off please?

>tfw Muk never
>tfw Cookie Cookie never

>>27874308
No, he beat the Charmander.

He forfeited to SPARKY.

>>27874716
I'll infernrape your ass boi

>>27874718

Those two are fodder for lesser battles finals will be Pikachu the four fully evolved Starters and either Bulbasaur, Oshawott, or Snorlax. That's Ash's most marketable best team.

>>27874716
Look. As much as I hate Infernape's arc and love Brokodile, the monkey is better.

>>27874347

>Replacing Snorlax.
>The Pokemon that has consistently taken down multiple opponents before finally being worn down enough to faint.

>>27874850
>Implying Infernape should replace Krookodile
Nah, have him replace job-frog instead. As you said, Brokodile. He deserves to stay on the all star team.

>>27874716
Blaze Infernape was essentially just Ash Greninja but it wasn't called Ash anything.

>Oh shit, Infernape bout to lose, better go nuclear
>Infernape goes apeshit
>Becomes op
>wins

The only good thing coming out of today is that no one will ever suggest Goodra when it comes to Ash's best team ever again

>Ash's Kalos team was full of jobbers
>Goodra failed to beat an already injured Bisharp
>Noivern gets a love tap by ice beam and goes down
>Greninja somehow loses when everything was in its favor
Pikachu was his true MVP

>>27875044
Goodra > Snorlax
Prove me wrong you can't.

>>27875071
Bisharp.

>>27875146
>implying Snorlax could survive a literal OHKO move

>>27875060
Don't forget Talonflame's double KO against fucking Unfezant.

>>27875179
Maybe

>>27874582
Pikachu is always MVP:

>Fucked 10-move Dragonite
>Fucked Metagross
>Fucked Regice
>Fucked Latios
>Carried all of Unova until Shadescroc and even then still carried most of it
>Fucked Tyranitar
>Fucked Another Metagross
>The often memed level 5 snivy loss was after he was struck down by a fucking god, and even then it took the thing knowing Leaf Storm

i'm sorry pika

i'll never doubt again

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>>27874272
>A team of starters
>two fire type starters

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>>27875234
This is what Pikachu made Charizard do, after it was already exhausted from beating two of Alan's powerhouses.

This is what Greninja failed to do after having a field set up just the way it liked it, and getting a direct hit with some insane finishing move. Charizard didn't even take a knee. Just quivered.

>>27874263
>Ash forgot to use based Krook against Cameron

He leaves out and his only decent 'mon and gets his ass justifiably torn open

>>27875180
>fucking Unfezant.

To be fair, in the anime every pokemon is potentially good. The logic in that world is different.

>>27875234
maybe if he didn't waste 2 -3 mins worth of animation havign to be picked up isntead of recalled through a pokeball would make me forgive his ass.

>>27874892

Didn't he help win two frontier symbols?

>>27874470
>>27874438

Underrated comments

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>there's people who think Snorlax should be swapped out
>Won against
>Chair's Kingdra
>Gary's Nidoqueen and Arcanine
>Harrison's Hypno and Steelix
>Greta's Medicham and Hariyama
Don't forget all of Snorlax's 3 losses was it being KO'd after taking down at least taking 1 or more Pokemon. Snorlax is one of Ash's strongest powerhouses

>>27874902
Fuck titsmonkey

One of the worst designs in the franchise

>>27874124
What tournament? What is op talking about?

>>27875505
>he doesn't know about the Kanto WT

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>immune to physical attacks
Come on, guys

Zard
Hera
Pikachu
Muk
Infernape
Snorlax

There's your dream team

>>27874347
Infernape definitely needs to be subbed in and maybe Heracross too, but Greninja should be the first to go and probably Krookodile after.

>>27874931
>wins

And that alone is why it deserves to be in more than memefrog.

>Charizard gets TWO megaevolutions this gen, same as fucking Mewtwo
>Clearly the real posterboy of this shit
>Ash relies on Greninjob because "muh prophecy, surey I can't fail even if the rest of the team that's not Pikachu is a complete failure!"

Shouldn't his OWN Charizard be an unbelievable badass after so much time training the valley of the hardcores?

Where is my cute Goodra at?

>>27876146

Working on its new job

A-Team
>Pikachu
>Charizard
>Sceptile
>Snorlax
>Heracross
>Hawlucha

B-Team
>Greninja
>Infernape
>Swellow
>Krookodile
>Muk
>Bulbasaur

>People don't rate Glalie

Icenigga is underrated as fuck. Literally carried him during the Hoenn League.

>>27874250
Drop Greninja for Infernape and Sceptile for Swellow or something.

>>27876171
>Infernape
>B-Team

u wot

>>27876171
Glailie instead of Bulbasaur

>>27876171

>hawlucha
>couldnt take out 2 4x weak mon

>people listing Heracross
Literally couldn't defeat a Darkrai with a guts-boosted Megahorn.

>>27876211
>STILL liking Infernape

>>27876359

Not about liking, it's about combat ability

>>27875179
let's be real it probably doesn't work that way in the anime

>>27876256
To be fair Hawlucha probably carried more weight then most throughout XY aside from that. He should be on the B-team but probably no higher

>>27874124
>HOLY SHIT, WORLD TOURNAMENT SET IN KANTO BETWEEN SEPTEMBER AND NOVEMBER CONFIRMED
source?

>>27876179
everyone seems to have forgotten about him, kinda sucks

>>27876179
He's great, but he's definetly B-Team material. Which isn't bad, Ash just have more than 6 great Pokemon. The only thing is that he doesn't use them

>>27874124
>its down to the final match of the league
>all five of Ashes non-pikachus have jobbed to his oponents first choice
>finally sends out pikachu
>he evolves into Riachu
>proceeds to rape all six of his opponents pokemon one after another
>ASH WINS BASED PIKACHU spam across every board
best ending

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This.

>Kingler
>Muk
>Donphan
>Gliscor
>Scraggy
>Pikachu

For some ass sweeping deluxe. Primetime, baby.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtiKon6cxN4
>10:20
still my favorite fight desu

>>27874124
Best team would be

Pikachu
Charizard
Snorlax
Sceptile
Infernape
Greninja

Krookodile was based but each one is capable of more unless GreninJOB is actually one to choke in high-stakes matches, in which case Krookodile is a better choice.

>>27877186
>jobbing team: hipster edition

>>27875282
Infernape is fucking batshit powerful and only shares the water weakness with Charizard, which Pikachu could tank and destroy.

>>27874124
The only other mons really worth considering for the team would be Infernape, Heracross, Swellow, and maybe (maybe) Gliscor.

Bulbasaur and Squirtle also have some fucking crazy feats considering their relative strength though, and his Donphan was pretty based as well aside from jobbing once or twice.

I can't personally think of any changes I'd make though. That pic is about as good as it gets, any alterations would be down to pure preference.

>Jobfrog
nigga's getting oaked
infernape instead

> A Team

Pikachu
Charizard
Sceptile
Infernape
Greninja
Snorlax

> B Team

Krookodile
Swellow
Glalie
Bulbasaur
Gliscor
Kingler

What if he goes with unconventional methods?

Use poison and paralysis and stuff. Then have pokemon like snorlax and wait it out.

>>27874124
>Going back to Gen5 to do the PWT.
I hope Tobias or Gary comes back and cucks Ash once more.

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>>27874124
Who even cares anymore..

>>27876231

Bulbasaur took out a legendary.

>>27878825
and Swellow made pikachus thunder into armor
whats your point?

>>27874124
Watch him use one from each region.

Pikachu
Heracross
Sceptile
Infernape
Krookodile
Greninja

Could Snorlax beat Mega Charizard X?

>Pikachu
>Snorlax
>Sceptile
>Infernape
>Krookodile
>Greninja

There's your team. You have your GFW core, a tank Normal, a strong Ground/Dark, and your batshit strong Electric. Not to mention, Ash's Infernape is way stronger than his zard and comes through in a pinch. Sceptile beat a Darkrai. Greninja, while not able to jump, is still Ash's strongest Kalos Mon.

>>27879820
>Greninja, while not able to jump
kek

>>27875179
Snorlax has Protect

>>27874124
>greninja
Lmao

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>>27874124
this

>>27874124
Pikachu
Charizard
Snorlax
Greninja
Infernape
Sceptile

>nobody mentioning goodra
It lost fucking once.

>>27879820
>Ash's Infernape is way stronger than his zard
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

The biggest accomplishment of themonkey is punch the Electric bully that made him cry like a bitch, and only because it threw a fit

The monkey is strong, but he hasn't done anything on record that's particularly impressive.

>>27875179
Snorlax has no neck. By Anime Logic it's immune to Guillotine.

>>27874124
Pikachu
Snorlax
Charizard
Sceptile
Noctowl
Infernape

>>27880095
His strategy of "Standing Still" had to catch up to him eventually.

>>27874124
I don't believe you.

>>27874124

Swap the frog for my man Muk.

>>27877336
>kingler
>jobber
>after sweeping in the first league 1v3

i haven't seen him since then, has he shown up again?

>>27880296
Lost to an Arcanine, would have won the Whirl Cup if Ash hadn't been a dumbass, and then got cucked out of every other battle it could have participated in. It didn't even appear in the Battle Frontier when almost everyone else did.

>>27875295
>Ash didn't bring his best mon
>Cameron didn't even bring a sixth mon
>All of Ash's friends that season manage to fully evolve everything and his team is Jhoto teir without a previous gen of mons to bail him out
I don't honestly understand everyone complaining about this league after that train wreck

>>27878915
10/10 Team. Snorlax over Heracross would be preferred (and was technically from orange islands) but the 1 per gen thing would be cool

>All these Infernapefags when Ash has already the GOAT Fire Starter in the A-team

>A-Team
Pikachu
Charizard
Snorlax
Sceptile
Krookodile
Heracross

>B-Team
Greninja
Infernape
Glalie
Muk
Hawlucha
Goodra

>Meme/Fun Team
Pikachu
Swellow
Snivy
Haunter (If applicable)
Torkoal
Tauros

>>27880412
My headcanon is Kingler was permanently injured after he got attacked by Voltorbs during the Johto League so Ash just let's him chill at the lab instead of risking him in battles.

Honestly, like it or hate it (and trust me, I hate it) Charizard should be in over Infernape because Charizard has the most important advantage over Infernape: GameFreak on his side

>>27874124
Any link to confirm this world tournament?

>>27875845
thats gen 1 son we have some common sense now

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Snorlax isn't that good. Perhaps stronger than most in terms of raw power but he's far too slow for Ash's heavy gung-ho battle style that is really emphasized by his current team in the XY season.

Heracross really isn't "ace of the ace" tier either, I feel.

>>27883863
>Meme/Fun Team

I feel like Pidgeot coming back would be kinda fun.

>>27874124
I don't care. I will not be investing any more time in this shit anime.

>>27885459

What?

Snorlax has always been Ash's heavy hitter. He beat Greta, he has a 73% win ratio for major battles and all his loses are after taking out an opponent.

>>27885459
> B-But... muh based fighting bug ;_;

Heracrossfags are filth.

>>27874124

Needs room for Infernape.

World tournament in the anime? Is this official?

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>>27886290

I think Anon was just pulling shit out of his ass.

Still, I don't see Team Flare running until the end. Could see a 5-6 episode Maison arc running during late September-October, SM starting in November.

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>Tauros
>Tauros
>Tauros
>Tauros
>Tauros
>Tauros

100% win-rate team right here

>>27877353
>which Pikachu could tank
>pikachu
>tank

>>27885035
anon lol

>>27874124
Bring back butterfree

>>27885459
>Snorlax isn't that good

You got my (You)

>>27874250
>Drop the pokemon who ohko'd tobias's darkrai

>>27890039
But Sceptile is nowhere to be seen in that post?

What is Ash's most underrated pokemon?

>>27890039
What did he mean by this?
Really anon, I'm confused

>>27890326
Does Pidgeot count? Also Torterra.

>>27874347
>I don't like charizard so i'll change it for something not even close to it's strength.
Disgusting. Don't get me wrong hera is a boss.

>>27890039
Meant for>>27876184

>>27874250
>Dropping Greninja
>Placing Infernape
>Charizard and Infernape in the same team?

Do you smoke weed, anon? Actually, Charizard should be dropped and Infernape should be on his place.

>>27874539
>Charizard's achievements:
Orange league
Battle Frontier

>Infernape's achievements:
fucking nothing

>>27890784
They aren't official leagues

dumb genwunners overrate Charizard

>>27890784
>Implying Charizard was anything useful against Drake.

>>27890824
I think Orange League is official, it's just not a mainstream competition.

>>27875845
*is a scizor*
*flings u off and kills u*

>>27874124
Jobfrog should be replaced by Heracross and Charizard by Infernape. Perfect winning team then.

Does anyone have that one gif of Kingler smacking a withdrawn Cloyster

>>27890696
You're the high one.
Charizard and Infernape have vastly different styles, there's a place for both, especially by anime rules.

Infernape is good, but brings very little to the table now that Greninja is there. All three are on Ash's all star team, but the first one I'd kick out is the monkey

>>27874124
>world tournament
Is this real or you joking?

when's the last time Ash's charizard showed up?
and snorlax
and Infernape
have they even appeared since DP?

>>27874124
Why would it be set in Kanto?

>>27890824
>They aren't official leagues
I know. But still better than nothing.

If Alola still has a tournament despite not having official gyms, my dream teams would be something like

Final - Pikachu / Heracross / Sceptile / Infernape / Krookodile / Greninja
Semifinals - Charizard and Ash's 5 Alolamons
Quarterfinals - Snorlax / Bulbasaur / Squirtle / Muk / Kingler / Tauros (for the obligatory genwun pandering)

>>27890895
That was bullshit and you know it.

>Putting Greninja in B-Tier because losing against a Mega-Charizard after surviving like 4 direct hits from STAB boosted by Tough Claws Dragon Claw

>>27891163
Individual KO records say far more than team titles where some pokemon do the heavy lifting and others like Zard can immediately job to a Dusclops.

>>27891147
OP is pulling shit out of his ass

The frog is fucking worthless now. Synchro is confirmed shit compared to an actual mega evolution so Ash is better off just getting a mega stone for Charizard

Replace frog with Heracross

>>27890039
Darkrai had already taken a Guts boosted Megahorn

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>>27890875
Charizard defeated Drake's Electabuzz and managed to deal damage to that broken Dragonite.

>>27891227
There is a place Charizard has set foot already and Infernape never will: A HALL OF FAME.
pic related: Ash's true "Best Team". Not for the powerhouses, but fot what they accomplished.

A team:
6x Tauros
B team:
6x tauros
C team:
6x Tauros
D team:
6x Tauros
E team:
6x Tauros
He Will have to use all of them at some point, right?
They were not used for barbecue, right?

>>27890696
>Infernape
>Above Charizard
Other than memepower Frog and Pikabro Charizard is by far Ash's strongest pokemon.

>>27874250
>>27874195
>assblasted faggots going on about how greniggash is bad because it lost to a guy who had been practicing and training since the beginning of kalos when he was still a wild froakie

>>27891397
Dreameater restored its hp

>>27874391
>then he won ash's second league
No he didn't, he was taken out by dragonite's sweep

I'll give him the ex machina'ed victory against both Golem and Blastoise, but then he went on to lose ash the league WITH a type advantage. Although to be fair, no one really knew anything about Blaziken. Even Oak didn't know anything but it's name

>>27891444
>Hall of Fame
>Lapras and Tauros' first battle ever

>>27888562
>>27891444
Tauros doesn't job like (((other pokemons))), he fuked up the Venasaur in orange league, hes bro tier in my books.

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>>27875234
>it took the thing knowing Leaf Storm
I'm sorry to say it was Leaf Tornado

>>27874124
Is this bullshit caused by the shitstorm, delusion, anger and shitposting or is the tournament actually going to happen, p

>no Muk
c'mon, it's the only Pokemon he has that's never lost a fight.

>>27876664
>>he evolves into Riachu
>thinking making him worse will make him win

>>27878847
That bulba is better than glalie

>>27891444
MFW I realized Ash won Orange league with 4 pokémon

>>27892361
Literally got wrecked by Gary's Scizor

>World Tournament
Isn't it supposed to be a League Winners tournament?
Ash won't participate.

>>27890520
>Torterra
Didn't it win exactly 0 battles after evolving?

wait, when the World Tournament was decided?

>>27890824
Battle Frontier is objectively harder than the league

confirmed?

i see yall niggas forgot about muk

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>>27893025
>i see yall niggas forgot about muk
>CTRL F
>Muk
>11 matches

>>27878825
What?
I'm on the Bulbapedia page and either I'm missing something or you're inventing stuff.

Besides, Glalie did more for Ash in the Hoenn league than any other of his Pokemon, even beating a LeagueCharizard, Ash's biggest weakness

>>27875180
>252+ Atk Talonflame Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Unfezant: 187-222 (62.1 - 73.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
>252+ Atk Unfezant Sky Attack vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Talonflame: 304-358 (102.3 - 120.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
If anything Talonflame got hella lucky

>>27874124
Sceptile is shit.
It couldn't even beat May's Blaziken.

>>27888735
He did tank a Tyranitar and Metagross desu senpai.

>>27877241
Shinji v Satoshi and Shota v Satoshi are the best fights in the anime imo.

>both players play very smart, using their moves for shit like countershield or to alter the terrain
>shown to use things like strategy and not just spam muh beam attacks
Shota was the true mvp of XYZ and Shinji was the god of SLV.

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>>27892648
>tfw ash gets in because he won the orange league