>it's a "cool new pokemon only available at the

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>pokemon has cool design
>only thing it's good is a shit gimmick

>>27792595
Noibat
half of unova dex
any of gen4 evos
Snorunt, Spheal, Beldum
like 90% of Jotho mons

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Errytime

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>>27792595
>Larvitar and Sneasel only available once there's only Red left to fight

>>27793421
Most of pseudolegendaries are avaliable only in the end of the game.

I'm also sick of the concept "you can only find this pokémon specifically in this location away from everything else", like Bagon.

>>27792595
The worst thing about Gen V.

>>27793421
same with misdreavus

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>it's a pokemon with a cool design but shit stats episode

>>27793472
Exception is Gible in Pt, which can be found right after the second gym badge under Cycling Road.

>>27792595
If Haruhi were a pokemon, what would she be?

Yeah you're right let's just give have all the good mons at the beginning and make exploration or catching pokemon pointless and non-existant for 80% of the game

>>27792595
This is one of the things I really like about Gen 1- the open-ended nature of the later part of the game means you can go and get anything new once you get Surf, so you don't have this issue.

>>27794721
At the very least put all of the baby pokemon with the early route pokemon besides budew.

>Complete the Game
>And then you get Beldum
Go fuck yourself Steven, at least this thing was could be caught later.

>>27793472
Are you kidding? I love stuff like Bagon that actually encourages exploring. It's a bit annoying because it requires waterfall, so it's very late to acquire, but rare hidden pokemon like that are an awesome concept.

Better than just giving it a low encounter percentage to make you walk back and forth forever.

>>27794486
Except you'll need Strength to even access the area Gible is in. So you'll already have your 6th gym badge.

>>27794721
It's less so wanting that and more wanting time to train good Pokemon alongside the rest of your team instead of just rushing Exp Share right before the E4.

Also, Pokemon like Larvesta with such a late evolution really should get to be caught earlier.

>>27794905
Right. Can't you technically catch a Dratini once you've beaten Misty? You'd still need to progress past a lot of the game, but you could reach the Safari zone.

>>27795075
Not in platinum. You can also get Earthquake at the same time.

>>27795106
Oh you're right. I'm an idiot

>>27795101
How would you get past Snorlax?

>>27795135
You'd still need to go through the rocket hideout and get the Silph Scope, but that still doesn't require beating any gyms. It'd be easy to complete that and pokemon tower, and you'd probably be able to do that with a solid team of level 20s. Alternatively, you could also buy one in the Game Corner at that point.

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>Pokémon is in obscure hidden area and there is no indication of said area existing

>>27792595
>make him evolve at a level that you wont reach until after the League

Who thought making Hydreigon evolve at level 64 was aceptable?

>>27792595

I mean it's pretty normal for the psuedo to be near endgame story wise

The only bullshit exception was Larvitar

Being only on Mt Silver was absolutely garbage

>>27793472
Goomy was like 4 gyms in and Dratini was from the safari zone.

>>27795516
Didn't they fix that in the remakes? I'm pretty sure you can get him in the Safari Zone now.

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Pokémon you only get when there's nothing else to do

>>27792595
Thats good. Nice little reward for yourself. Unless you want the games even more casualized and want to be handed your 600bstmon?

>>27795610
Not easily. You need to get the Safari Zone set up AND wait a long amount of time (more than a week) for it to start showing up.

>>27795704
>Pokemon
>not being casual since RBY

Why do you people insist on thinking that Pokemon is anything but casual?

>>27795766
>something that's casual can't become even more casual

>>27795742
Well, that still sounds better than needing to beat 16 gymleaders. That's close to the halfway point, and means you'll actually be able to use it.

I'm more annoyed at non-pseudo pokemon evolving at obscenely high levels (i.e. past 50). Fuck Unova.

>>27795704
>you can get Gyarados before beating LT. Surge
>cannot get Seel until you beat Koga
yeah, no

>>27795471
>larvesta at level 59
>zwelious at level 50
Huge pain in the ass for cool pokemon
Especially since they both flip attack styles upon evolving, and how larvesta learns shit attacks outside of tms for most of its lifespan

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>>27795704
>dratini
>gible
>goomy
Do you even play these games

>BUT MUH CASUALIZATION

You can make them hard to get and at the same time, early in the game.
They're not mutually exclusive

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>>27795704
>Implying pseudos have 600bst in their first phase.
>Implying they don't evolve at a high level

I had to go back to meteor fall with waterfall mon just to get Bagon.
Why even exist?

>>27795287
A hiker underneath the cycling road near berries tells you about a hidden cave though. Easy enough to spot.

>>27796079
I don't think Goomy was actually hard to get. You find it pretty easily on a route you're forced to progress on. The only thing difficult about it was figuring out how it evolves.

>>27795097
100% This. I wish after beating the elite 4, all the trainers and gym leaders would somehow reset and let me replay with the mons I've aquired from scratch again.

>>27795610

>Waiting to wait 5 million years

>>27793472
I can recall you can get Gible before tackling the fifth gym in Kalos, while in the desert area. Fitting considering said gym leader is Clemont, an electric type user.

>>27797578
Forget that, you can find Bagon and Axew before the second gym.

>>27792703
>tfw I always want to use Walrein
>tfw everytime I play ORAS I quit after Lilycove

one of these days I'll get there

>can't get Gible before gym 3 in Diamond because you need some bullshit TM

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>Replay older gen with no/dead online
>Trade evolution