Pokemon Fanfiction General and Writethread

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Fic recap:

An anon started a gallade fic about said pokemon being curious about human objects. SFW
http://pastebin.com/P0NjLg3k

A chain poster actually made a fic based off of some post about porn being deleted and of the pokemon affected by said missing stuff. SFW
http://pastebin.com/6mppDnuC

Pawn made a few works involving a female Slyveon having her way with a trainer and then offing him NSFW
http://pastebin.com/JtGn3HAT
He also did one with Zoroark, with much less death and more consent NSFW
http://pastebin.com/TuNV0J3y

Mimiga began a sequel to Ears. SFW
https://docs.google.com/document/d/17mnGNRaM-mw4QH3brOFcLapWrjRaCYaAOpsVuDB2wdY/edit?usp=sharing

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Anchor post for skyla fic Pawn is working on!

>>27779918
An antagonist is the other guy's hero and likely fated to fail.
A villain is somebody whose actions You regard as immoral and are in pursuit of a goal that distresses You. ("You" in this context lumps together both the story's protagonist and the reader who is intended to sympathize with the protagonist.)

Thus, "villain" is easy as long as you know your target audience. For example, write a Nazi and most of all readers will label that character a villain after those four letters solely because nearly everything in Nazi philosophy opposes the prevailing mores. We didn't mind their love for rocketry and soon shared it.

An antagonist is defined after the protagonist is by doing things that obstruct the protagonist's progress or that disrupt the protagonist's lifestyle. So the sign is in the interaction between protagonist and antagonist, and the symptom is early success followed by ultimate failure for the sake of the protagonist's success.

Despite your slashes, keeping these concepts separate allows for more interesting stories. Often when they are one and the same, you are writing an archetype plot, which of course isn't forbidden (I used this for Nor Gloom Of Night) but it puts additional pressure on the backstories and motivations to be interesting since the conflict reduces to "these two are at odds."

Guys, I'm going to be a bit late for my Male Florges so be patient (if you guys still care for it) sorry so many things going on with my life

>>27780077
Come on anon.
You missed one. http://pastebin.com/ekAKUpnh

>>27782016
I prioritize the updated version :^)

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>>27782096

>>27779948
>salamance not acting like a salamander
he fucked up

>>27779918
ToTT: Villains I've written are usually the villain because wow, looks all this mean shit this guy is doing. Like cge said, the villain poses a roadblock of sorts for the protagonist.

ACPCs villain is currently functioning off of that (all the interference d'Arangnan is dealing with in his prophecies) and off of conflicting with basic human morals: the villain is killing innocent people and taking their hearts.

So, how does requesting go?
just throw stuff to the wall and see what sticks?

>>27784016
Authors offer within limits.
Anons request.
The good authors never come back, and the shitty ones keep trucking here.
Good nsfwfics never ever.

>>27784016
throw a request and hope for the best.
Maybe someone will take requests once in a blue moon, but delivery ratio is relatively low. You could take a chance or write your own, it all depends in the heart of the keyboards

>>27781594
>>27784041
So what do you call an author who tries to keep coming back yet always lets people down because he can't seem to start his stories in a way he finds satisfactory?

>>27784124
A failure.

>>27784164
Known issue. Attempting to fix.

>>27784112
All I want to read is a Ledian's struggles to hold hands with her trainer
;_;

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I'm the robosexuality anon. I'm about to start with the smutty part. I hope I can have the fic ready for later tonight. Wish me luck!

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>>27784316
Godspeed anon.
Back to the angry dome I go

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>>27784124
Me

>>27784363
Thank you! I hope you come out of it to read what I have in store

>>27784227
>>27784457
>sees own flaws
>attempts to fix
>attempts
>keeps doing it
Its even worse than I thought.

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>>27784124

>>27781594
Booty
If I wanted to record readings what microphone and program should I go for?

>>27784793
Speakonia and Audacity

>>27784841
OK. I've said I'd read that roslia but I need to find that microphone

>>27784936
Which fic are you referring to that you're reading?

>>27784936
Using a TTS engine in my experience is defiantly more amusing than reading it out loud.
That's what Speakonia is

>>27784499
Tis why you're better off going from start to finish and then go into editing hell

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>>27786252

I just finished the prolouge of the Tribal Pokemon story I was talking about, Pokemon: From the Wild.

Hoping for some opinions on it, for any improvements, things of the sort like that.

http://pastebin.com/mMYcqhK4

Can we get some Lopunny smut? zero in the catalog.

>>27789033
you can google some around on FFN for some. Here's an oldie
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/6288949/1/Watch-out-for-those-ears

>>27788618
Here's some advice from a few threads back, copypasting what matters the most.

Make sure to push the enter key/add a break whenever someone else is talking. This makes paragraphs less cluttered and more organized.

Choose a verb tense and remain constant in it unless there are specific exceptions (choose whether to use past or present tense, but not at the same time. Past is a bit easier to write in). You have some loops where present is taking place in past, so choose one.

When it comes to using pronouns, make sure to identify the 'it' when the boufallant is fighting first before using them, otherwise it can be confusing to follow as to who 'it' is.

Otherwise it looks off to a decent start

>>27784520
where's the sound version of this gif

>>27788618
>http://pastebin.com/mMYcqhK4
The idea is probably fine, but you're letting Narrator explain the premise when he should be revealing the circumstance. ¶¶1–7 could be scrubbed, and joined with ¶9 thus.
>"Worship, eat, hunt, sleep," a mantra chanted aloud on the march and in-mind while stalking by every hunter in Tokota's tribe. Worship; that the gods will grant their boons. Eat; that the body remains strong. Hunt; for those who cannot. Sleep; so the spirits may be heard. So invested in his mantra was Tokota that he overlooked a chance to take a better position. His nuzleaf noticed and tugged on Tokota's ragged pants, getting his attention and directing it to a nearby bush. Thanking his pokemon with a wink, they carefully shifted, unbeknownst to the bouffalant that was their quarry.

If it matters enough to mention, give it life. This mantra defines Tokota's role, so convey to the reader how it is able to do so. All that Telling about his past needs to be kicked; work it in one drip at a time when his interactions with other members of the tribe becomes relevant to the action. Don't tell me now that he neglects himself to aid others, show me him doing that later, for example, something like giving his best/special/whatever knife to one of those "other tribesmen" that needs one to dress the corpse.

Also, ¶1 in particular is a train wreck, and the first paragraph is the worst place for it. You're aiming for profound and missing because of a weak sentence structure and dubious application of tense. It's fixable, though.

Mind its/it's.

Alright I've finished chapter 2 of my Gallade fic.
This chapter focuses more on another character that will be crossing paths with the gallade somewhere down the line.

But other than the I do plan until then for the perspectives to change back and forth from the human and the gallade every chapter.

>>27790319
Fuck forgot the link to it
http://pastebin.com/B0bWHUsZ

>>27790288
>>27789366
Well, appreciated. Though I would be lying if I always feel insecure over some constructive criticism at times. But I'll try to work on it.

boop

>>27791759
Saygay

Actual AO3 link for Marriage of Mew. Don't bother with it if you've already read the Doc

http://archiveofourown.org/works/7771954

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Robosexuality anon here. It's finally done.

http://pastebin.com/bce8da6v

I thought I would feel embarrassed writing it, but I had so much fun! Sadly, it's a bit shorter than I thought. Also, I'm aware it's not perfect since it's my first smutfic, so critique is welcome. I hope you guys like it!

>>27793292
>return from the angry dome to see this bloom right in my face
You're giving me a heart attack anon. Nothing here but bleeding heart robosexuals!

On a more serious note I'm glad you were able to finish your fic from start to finish. Although infodumps are not my style, I thought it was necessary at the start since I know very little about the movie and of the two's interactions. Felt that the first lewd scene was a lot more powerful than the second one. There are a couple of things that caught my attention though.

The verb tense tends to switch between past/present, especially at the start. Make sure to choose one and stick with it.

First time penetration scenes in my view should be a bit more suspenseful instead of rushed through. Also, considering that Magearna is a robot and is probably her first time, you could go into a bit of detail of her...uh...gears underneath before he just shoves it in there, if you catch my drift. They'd probably be a bit different from an average human/mon for sure.

Otherwise I like what I felt, at least for the fluffy feeling I got in my heart

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>>27777178
Would like to address this once again since the thread died right after.
Any tips on how I can "condense" my fic ideas?

>>27794006
instead of planning a fic, write from start to finish and wing it, only editing when you reach the finish part to touch up grammar or major holes in the story

>>27794006
You are asking how to become a worse writer, when all you need to do is allow yourself to become comfortable with not thoroughly exploring or over-developing your stories.

Write a number of short stories, short as in 75 to 250 words. Develop a sense of how to show your reader as much as you can despite their being able only to peep through a keyhole.

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Working on my new CoC clone for Pokemon.

Any human on Pokemon romance that isn't just a chapter of smut? I'm looking for something along the line of a developing relationship.

>>27795076
Is raping all you do? Can you play pure?

>>27795315
I can add that in. What Pokémon are for love and which ones are for rape?

>>27795736
Well, I can name my favorites– but shouldn't everyone have both? You never know what people are into.

>>27795736
not that guy, but I recall in CoC there are some creatures where it is possible to have a nonviolent encounter with them, notably with stronger enemies, where you could fight, submit, or run before confronting. There are also random events involving a few that are just in the mood, so that is also to take into consideration

>>27795736

different guy, but if zoroark is in the game could you add love in?

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>>27795896
I've added those
>>27795911
Of course. The popular waifumons all have love routes.

I have a pretty large variety but please give suggestions because I can't add every Pokémon.

>>27795736
>>27795076
>/vpwt/ is actually supporting the idea of CoC Pokemon
>one that is made the same way the original CoC was
Devanon, stop posting and find a private advisor and writer. Public inserts will kill the game same way CoC died.
>furries will latch on and pay their oc's way in
>futafags will flood the game
>gays will flood the game
>interest will die off just like any original pokemon game after the dex is finished
Just ask /v/, they know how bad it got.

>>27796287
After you go down the most popular on paheal, I guess you should do all the legendaries.

>>27796287
Do you have the Eeveelutions Froggy anon?

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I am slowly trying to attempt writing again, since I have a day off for three days straight. It's going to be short and simple smut fic with not much story just so I can get myself rolling again into finishing The Fireworks Chapter 2.

>>27797012
All but the fairy one.

>>27795261
They don't exist because that requires actual thought

>>27795261
I'd give you the links to my Minty stories, but I wrote those in one night and it shows. Gonna rewrite them in a way that's satisfactory.

>>27795076
Are you the same anon who did the old CoC clone way back when? Interested to see where it goes, either way.

>>27797019
Will it involve pic related

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>>27799644
Why yes it will.
She stole my heart as the best gen7 girl so far right from under Lillie

>>27798729
Nope. I have the code all done but I'm not a very good author. I'm using text from CoC as placeholder

>>27798346
will minty be lewd in the future or will it remain a simple romance tale?

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So Ghost types are weak to Dark type moves, right? And Bite is a Dark type move.
Does that mean you could bite a Ghost to death?

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>>27794157
>>27794416
Thanks for the advice, guys. I did a bit a practicing and I'm feeling better about myself already. Hope to have a new fic out by the end of the week M Trainer x M Flareon
Yes I'm aware that I write slow.

>>27796287
Honestly your best bet is going to >>>/vg/151821893 and asking for advice as to how to get the writers you need and/or the process

>>27784974
Roselia booty, I feel bad about not doing it yet
>>27785021
Well I'd like to speak my voice

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>>27802651
Thanks anon. I'm working on a small demo to give people a feel of what I'm doing.
Secret ending where you get beat up by some Poliwhirls

>>27802974
link to fic?

>>27801856
Pic: Flareon's only move.

>Slow
You can't out-slow me. I've got a few stories supposedly in progress and I haven't put down a single word in a couple of weeks. Busy with distracting crap. Life, gtfo.

>>27803397
>out-slow me.
I haven't written a single word for second ep of upcoming production in two and a half months.

>>27800188
Likely stay romantic. Not that I can't write lewd. But I don't think it'll go lewd.

>>27803373
http://pastebin.com/p57LYN4p

>>27798219
I kinda tried here
>>27772880

>>27804177
If you can't find what you want, do what I did and make it.

>>27804073
Oh yeah I remember this. This was cute.

>>27784041
That's not true, didn't you read the bee one from last thread? Perfecto.>>27784112

>>27804177
needs more organization desu

>>27786252
This. Much easier to judge things when you're looking at the whole picture. You can see what really doesn't mesh with the rest of the story and what turns out to work despite your earlier doubts.

>>27796287
Will you include routes for husbandomons as well?

>>27801385
That would be an interesting thing to explore in a fic. I was actually wondering about it yesterday, as one would expect a ghost to just go intangible to avoid attacks, yet night shade or pursuit would still hit?

>>27803397
It's okay cge. I would say "we've all been there", but in reality we are all currently there. Right now. Doing nothing productive in terms of writing. We are the worst.

>>27806691
When you're writing a story, don't make anything arbitrarily broken. E.g. don't do the anime bullshit where psychics are D&D casters and ghosts can become invincible at will.

>>27806373
Fug I didn't mean to quote that second post

>>27806771
The (corporeal) villain has been defeated through the use of Create Pit and Wall of Stone!

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I'm running errands today, so hopefully I will bang out a bit more of my pokemon-with-a-job fic. I find it easier to write when I'm actively ignoring other stimulus, like a droning bus ride or a class. I generally get the juiciest stuff written on the bus. Lucky for me the summer school kids can't speak English well enough to read what they may see on my phone.

Pic related, the star of the fic.

>>27801385
>>27806691
think of it as cheating death

>>27807017
What kind of noob doesn't have a teleport item? 3.5 is a caster's world, baby. Get magic or get out.

Incidentally, the combo is less broken that Pokémon anime psychic powers, since those tend to be single-action save-or-dies that no one ever makes the save against.

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>>27793698
I'm glad you liked it!

I did notice several times while writing that I was switching between past/present, but I probably overlooked some of these switches while proofreading it. Maybe it's because I'm used to writing in present.

Oh, that's actually not their first time. There's a line stating that "They already did this several times before". Probably I failed to make clear what I was refering to. But yeah, I think I rushed it a bit. I should have talked about her... gears but I didn't know how to deal with that subject so I left that untouched.

And again, I'm glad it made you feel that way

>>27807156
Pokemon themed 3.5/Pathfinder might be fun actually. Creating race sheets and accounting for evolution would be a nightmare though.

>>27808048
"Dungeons & Dragonites" on Youtube. They added pokemon for random encounters and lore, animal companion, and wild shape. It was as amusing as listening to other people having fun could be expected to be, I suppose.

>>27808048
I mean, PTU exists, but as I understand it its mechanics are pretty watered down and sometimes vague compared to D&D. It would be a good first tabletop for someone who's into the series, but it might feel a little lacking for more experienced RPG players.

Mankind was not in harmony in the pokeworld and the legendary's worked hard to try to maintain the peace. Soon many of them went to Mew to tell him that they could not keep up with the pollution caused by man. Mew decided that man must realize what damage they are causing. He told the legends to protect only the pokemon and to let man see the impact that they caused.
Soon the human world was dying and mankind was close to death.
Two children went to the Celibi Shrine and asked that there grandfather might live, for he was sick and the weather was hurting him. These two children were also hungry but only cared for others. As they prayed they died shedding but one tear. Celibi saw this and took there tears and went to Ho-oh "Oh Ho-oh great protector of the afterlife. I have a request to make. These two children died, and they asked for me to save their family. I can not allow those to poor innocent souls to die because of their kinds problems. I want to reunite the souls with there bodies." Celbi told the great protector.
"I am sorry but their bodies will die, even if I bring them back. However I can fuse there souls to there tears and using a little life from all of the legendary's, they also will protect man. The girl will be phiona. She will protect the North and cool the seas. And her brother will be Manphy, he will heat the Oceans and protect the south".
Mew heard this and was pleased. He gave them a gift that no other legend had. They could have children to help protect this world.

>>27808790
>biological ancestor of pokemon is the highest deity

This meme should have died with DPPt

>>27808875
It was wrote during DPPt so...

>>27808637
I'll check it out. Tabletops generate silly stuff usually.

>>27808702
I think I saw the rulebook for that the last time I was on the irc. Then again that was a year and change ago. It was immense. Or maybe that was a homebrew I was looking at.

More nicely organized than the final fantasy rulebook is though.

>>27808907
That's not an excuse, that's an argument FOR my point. DPPt gave us lesser gods and then legit Pokeworld God. It's silly to have Mew play the role of boss of all other Pokemon when Arceus is boss of the universe.

>>27809874
Isn't that pretty much limited to the mythos of a single region?

>>27810153
Considering that there isn't any conflicting lore, I doubt it.

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>>27792640
>We might need to binge on a little more Vitamin C than usual tonight if we do.
Ohohoho you tell him Panne. :3c

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>>27811053
Don't you make that fukin face at me you s'wit
Both lines of evolution are in the field egg group

>>27811180
That just makes it even better when they hold hands and have a field day with each other~

mimiga I love your stories but your descriptions really need some editing, a lot of them do not make sense or are unnecessarily convoluted. I'm gonna give some examples because there are some lines in particular that really bother me:

"Idle conversation filled their short trek back, simply because they had been set in such a mood that just the sound of their softened voices could send shivers up spines. "

Simply put, "Their short trek back was filled with idle conversation" is much more clear image and sounds more natural in English. Also unless they're deliberately pretending to be ghostly monsters then "soft voices" are not going to send shivers up anyone's spines. That entire second chunk of the sentence makes no sense so I suggest cutting it entirely and ending the sentence after "conversation".

"Panne glanced out over the twilit village one last time and felt that same sensation bloom more intensely like a well-fed fire."

You could have said "ignite" or "blaze" or "rekindle" or a dozen other words that actually make sense in the context of the sentence. But "bloom"? The fuck is "bloom"? I know flowers that bloom, but I'm pretty sure a "well-fed fire" is not going to be "blooming" in any way shape or form. Also "twilit" is a weird obscure word to use but technically its correct so whatever.

"Even with the considerable force she had mustered, there barely seemed to be any resonance from the impacts, and her fist cried out in bruising from the act afterwards"

Ooooh boy. Here's a reworking of the sentence that is at least somewhat readable- "Panne barely managed to shake the door despite pounding with all her might, leaving her fists with a stinging sensation." I mean, this could definitely be tightened even further, but its better than complete nonsense like "her fist cried out in bruising". Also unless you're talking about a science experiment I'd really recommend against using the word "resonance", that really does not describe the situation well at all.

>>27806605
I've only got Machamp so far. Not sure what other husbandomons people like.

>>27812725
Gallade.
Bisharp.
Lucario.
And what other hominid male ones there are

>>27812449
Holy shit thank you, I cannot figure out why my prose has been getting so shitty as of late. While it's no excuse for the descriptions, my eye strain as of late has also played a part in putting stress on my quality checks.

I'll try to make certain this shit doesn't happen again in chapter 2, but it's pretty much only downhill from here if I do manage to slip up even further. The imagery in chapter 2 of Ears was a complete fluke that I cannot even hope to recreate something to its degree without 50 more nonsensical sentences in between.

>>27806373
I don't stand corrected.

>>27814056
Fucking roasted

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>>27812725
Adding on to what that other anon suggested, there are also Scrafty, Sawk, Darkrai, Blaziken, Greninja, etc. Generally bipeds.

>>27807025
what kind of job does a scrafty specialize in?

>>27819251
demographic analysis You see a lot of shit living in the hood.

>>27790107
I dunno, I don't meddle with webms too often.

>>27807298
That's where creativity comes in...or go the normal route.
I believe she has some soul stone stuck in there as well, which could've helped with that.

But eh, it's already published. Tis fine for a first try.

Would you be comfortable with eating the eggs of your own pokemon? Assuming some species regularly lay unfertilised eggs, of course. Is there a line you'd draw between acceptable to eat eggs and unacceptable? I imagine having your pokemon shit out an egg every day or so ripe for eating would be convenient.

Looking just at avian pokemon, you'd probably be comfortable eating a Doduo egg. How about Blaziken?

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Am I the only one here that get anxious before sitting down to write? I'm fine once I get going, but it's always very difficult to convince myself to get started.

>>27823127
I'm usually more anxious about being interrupted.

>>27823741
This. Whether I'm working on sfw or not, getting interrupted really disrupts my flow. Doesn't help that I live in quite a busy apartment where phone rings are rampant and family members stick around from days on end.

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>>27825080
>>27823741
I can't say I know this feel. Everyone in my household seems to be able to recognize my "focused" face, so I don't usually get interrupted.

>>27825333
Trips confirm, they see him and say to themselves, "oy, he's off in his pokemon sex world again. Why couldn't we have had a normal one?"

>>27822842
>would be convenient.
For you. Not for your pokemon's ass. Chansey would be cool with it because it produces "normal" eggs. Regarding pokemon eggs, my opinion I will withhold because I haven't published much on that topic and I want to keep it a mystery in my writing for the time being, and will leave it at: I don't think it's sustainable.

>>27823127
I become excited, as much because I found time as because I'm bringing into existence something that without me is forever intangible.

>>27825802
Laughed harder than I should have. At least I'm laughing at my own expense.

Any notable self-insert/mary-sue/gary-stu fic to read? I'm really in the mood for one

>>27826801
Sinners by Slash Firestorm

>>27826837
This is great, especially since my old self insert was also named Slash

>>27823127
I've known people that get anxious when writing, but I usually am either excited because I know exactly what I want to say, impatient because I have an important point I want to get to, or, more typically, frustrated as I wrangle with the slow march of the prose.

>>27821307
Thank you!

>>27825978
Assuming these are species that just lay eggs every now and then, like Chansey, I mean.

Would you be comfortable eating eggs your Blaziken lays every morning?

>>27803937
that's fine with me. Good luck with that block

>>27822842
>>27827611
Depends on a lot of things I guess:
To what extent are pokemon intelligent/sentient?
Do they have an emotional attachment to these eggs?
How would they react to seeing/knowing their trainer is doing this?
Are there regular animals that can lay non-pokemon eggs for consumption?
Are the eggs high in cholesterol?

I think generally I'd say no, mostly because it would be weird.

>>27827611
>Would you be comfortable eating eggs your Blaziken lays every morning?
Assuming they are unfertilized, of course. (Otherwise, she's got some explaining to do.)

And, consider the alternative…
>Would you be comfortable telling a tower of muscle and fire that the omelette she got up early to grunt out, fry up, and serve to you is beneath your dignity? That you would throw away the unfertilized egg that her body made unbidden from the food you gave her—food she knows you bought for her with money you worked hard to earn; that you'd rather consume the egg of a stranger's fowl of unknown quality and provenance than the one gifted to you and you alone from she who thought that she was your trusted life-long partner, rejecting the latter egg as though it were as repugnant as her feces. What else about her disgusts you, she wonders, shamed, crestfallen, and doomed to make another egg, and another, every day, a reminder that to you, she is an animal, filthier than a biological yolk machine covered in the shit of likewise battery hens penned above it. Yes, she saw that documentary. She knows what "life" is like for the hens that contribute to your meals. She thought you would appreciate a meal that cost the world's karma just a little less suffering, like how she appreciates the liberties you've granted her. But no, you took that suffering and poured it upon her to ensure she never again makes that mistake. After all of these years, she's still learning more about you, day by day.

(I just accidentally wrote a drabble, didn't I?)

>>27827611
Aren't Chansey eggs confirmed in lore to be nutritious? So why not, it'd be like eating chicken eggs to an extent, only it comes from an egg....thing. And they're happy to give them to people, especially they're injured. I think it starts to get odd with other mon because they aren't really predisposed to it like chansey are. Even if they were willingly surrendering the eggs I think it'd feel a bit odd. Could be a regional thing though.

"Blaziken eggs are a regional staple, and in keeping with the typing of the pokemon that laid them, are served with hot sauce and roasted peppers."

"When in Rome", I guess.

>>27829752
I'm laughing at the image of someone resignedly eating the most awkward meal of their life while their blaziken looks on proudly.

>"How would you like tomorrow's egg?"

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Here's the Chapter 2 of Male Florges
criticisms are welcome

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>>27825080
>>27825333
I'm free labor, so my family's various needs take precedence over my own endeavors. Such is life as a pokéfucker.

I've wanted to do an admittedly fan wanky military thriller kind of story about Surge and that war he's been talking about since RBY.

The idea that's been rattling around my head is a sort of Pokemon Operation Paperclip. A unit of the French Foreign Legion (Kalosian?) is sent into a war-torn Cinnabar to extract high value personnel like Oak, Fuji, Blaine and Rowan, who are conducting some mighty interesting, ethically dubious work. Being the KFF, Surge and his team can be cut loose pretty quickly if the operation goes south. The whole thing is very dirty work.

The outcomes are obvious -- the familiar faces survive, Surge retires from the military as a Gym Leader, the nature of the research is Mew and Mewtwo, etc. -- but it's really more about Surge's journey from military man to shellshocked veteran who quits the military life in disgust to become something of a local celebrity in Kanto. I want to push the idea that he didn't choose Electric-types so much as they chose him, warming him up to the idea of Pokemon as partners instead of tools or pawns. (Being sent on a mission that's kind of underhanded and sneaky, he might start off with a preference for Dark-types.) I'm sure it would also be chock full of gratuitous cameos like Koga leading a black ops ninja team from Kanto, Lance's mother or Falkner's father as a final boss sort of character, Chuck, Norman, etc.

>>27834333
>but it's really more about Surge's journey from America
ftfy

>>27834618
Sure, that too

I was trying to think of a way for an American to wind up in a Japanese gym with a French Pikachu.

The initial idea I had was something much more WW II-like, with Unova invading Kanto, but that seemed a little too obvious.

>>27829852
Besides, Chansey eggs are clearly trophic eggs, most of the time they're laid with the express intention to be eaten, either by itself or others it wants to take care of.

>>27829441
A less intelligent Pokemon would probably not understand the egg is not going to hatch into anything, while a more intelligent one would have an easier time just dumping the egg. Pretty sure some animals eat their own eggs if they don't hatch, too.

My setting has Pokemon with trainers at near-human intelligence and all meat comes from Pokemon. I imagine it'd be weird at first but you'd get used to it, can't waste sources of nutrition on a pokemon journey.

>>27829752
It'd be interesting if a mon got offended that you didn't want to eat their eggs.

>>27835352
>has Pokemon with trainers at near-human intelligence
I read this at first and kek'd because "trainers at near-human intelligence".

>>27836205
Which is a bit above canon.

>>27812926
>I'll try to make certain this shit doesn't happen again in chapter 2
You should also fix it in Chapter 1, if you haven't already. Writing can't just be a fire-and-forget thing; you need to do more editing, or conscript others to do it for you.

>>27837000
I disagree with that command, although I agree with the philosophy.

More will be learned from conscientiously working through Chapter 2, and if he can't write an acceptable Chapter 2, he's not yet fit to edit Chapter 1 and assuming there are no plot changes involved attempting would make a mess of it.

>>27836976
rekt

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Worked 70 hours last week, when will the pain end? I want to finish being busy and depressed and go back to writing, where I can be not busy, and a different kind of depressed.

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>>27827208
>my self insert was also named Slash

>>27835352
>Pokemon with trainers at near-human intelligence

All the benefits of intelligent Pokémon with none of the questions or problems. How convenient.

>>27841999
Like?
The idea of pokemon being with trainers has never been a contentious topic in pokemon at all. Except with Team Plasma, but they were cherrypickers with ulterior motives.

>>27843540
Pokémon in canon are generally not anywhere near average adult human-equivalent intelligence, especially not in the games. That's why the canon setup generally works and is generally morally harmless.
Also, of course it has never been contentious in the source material. The canon has little interest in seriously questioning itself, if not for artistic reasons then for business ones. Gen 5 was a strawman.

When you make Pokémon too intelligent, you raise awkward questions, like "Why is it okay to treat these creatures that think and feel just like humans as non-people?" The vast majority of stories that make Pokémon "sapient" just ignore the incredibly obvious problems and treat smart magical beast companions as a wish-fulfillment/convenience feature with no drawbacks.
Having higher intelligence only develop in trained Pokémon also conveniently sidesteps any questions of how "sapient" Pokémon function in the wild or why they'd be okay with raw might-makes-right for millennia, and while it doesn't eliminate the non-people question, it almost always indicates that the author did not put much thought into the issue.

tl;dr Don't make Pokémon human-level intelligent unless you're willing to address the dark side of it. Lazy worldbulding should not be tolerated.

>>27843716
This. There better be a damn good reason that a setting with sapient Pokemon isn't in a near-constant state of either revolt or near revolt. What's more, you have to come up with a similarly damn good reason why humans are on top of the world, when something like, say, I dunno, Metagross exists.

>>27843716
Near-human level intelligence in pokemon is one of the fastest ways to make me lose interest in a story, but I'm willing to play devil's advocate on the point of sapient pokemon. A lot of hard sci-fi (and horror) explores the idea of a truly alien intelligence for which there is no human frame of reference. Even though I personally don't like to see it in pokemon stories, it doesn't really seem like that big of a suspension of disbelief to me to treat pokemon in a similar way; if anything I'd say it's a lot easier to accept an alien mind interpretation compared to some of the other more fantastical features of pokemon, such as evolution, their attacks, and their general durability. Furthermore I'd say that someone going with the alien mind interpretation probably shouldn't address it very heavily unless it actually has some sort of serious relevance on the overall plot of the story it's trying to tell. It will rub sticklers the wrong way, but when it comes to fan fiction trying to adapt magical fantasy land settings, I honestly don't know what else they'd expect.

>>27843906
>someone going with the alien mind interpretation probably shouldn't address it very heavily unless it actually has some sort of serious relevance on the overall plot of the story it's trying to tell

But raising Pokémon to a human-equivalent but "alien" level of intellect SHOULD be a significant part of the story. It's too far removed from canon and carries too many implications to work as a mere background element.

I'm not saying it can't work. I'm saying it requires building the world around it. Merely dropping it into an otherwise "standard" Pokémon world is guaranteed to cause problems, either by raising implicit questions that are never addressed even though they should, or by causing characters to behave in blatantly illogical ways.
It's not about "canon purity". It's about having the world still make sense. Making Pokémon too intelligent and then not doing anything with it is laziness. It will break the suspension of disbelief for any discerning reader, because the only way to take it at face value is to not think about it.

By the way, some of what you're saying sounds like you're implying that there are things that are "impossible to understand" and thus "don't need to be explained". The first one is nonsense, doubly so in fiction, and the second one the the ol' lazy boring uncreative "it's magic, I don't need to explain it" shortcut. You're in control of the world you're writing, you have to know how it works, at least on a rough level. "It works because it just does" is rarely an acceptable explanation (and usually best applied to altered laws of physics, science-fantasy chemical elements or a similar level of detail). It is certainly not acceptable for questions of morality/ethics, which is where the sapience issue naturally leads.

>>27838530
Sounds like hell.
isn't an average work week 40 hours though?

>>27835352
>rejecting chansey makes one go on a murderous slapping rampage, so be sure to accept their eggs, even if you're already full

>>27844065
>It's too far removed from canon and carries too many implications to work as a mere background element.

I don't know about that. It's actually the ONLY way the canon makes any sense at all if you ask me. Do you really find is harder to believe than the canon explanation of "the pokemon world works because it just does?" In the anime, games, and mangas, even the lowliest pokemon show higher order functions far more developed than the average human toddler, which already forces us to hand-wave away all of the moral concerns that near-human intelligence emphasizes.

An alien mind is not intrinsically 'impossible to understand' but it might be logically unsound when compared to a human frame of reference. Values that we instinctively hold may be inimicable to an alien mind, meaning that the only way for us to 'understand' it is to remove our own standard of judgement. We might ask 'why haven't pokemon formed their own society equal to humans' or 'why don't they revolt and take over the world' whereas the alien mind might ask 'why would a human communicate using an overly complex verbal language.' They are both equally as irreconcilable notions when judged by a system of values completely removed from the mind of the creature that created it.
cont.

cont. from >>27847546

The problem is that it's a concept heavy enough that it requires significant investment, and thus will really take over any other sort of mundane plot you try to put alongside it. It's absolutely worth exploring, I'm not saying otherwise, but I think trying to make it coexist with an otherwise banal 'we've gotta be the very best' kind of journey is futile. One story will eclipse the other. It's only your own preconceptions that are making you think otherwise.

I personally find writing off the problem of pokemon intelligence as an alien mind much easier to swallow than a story that tries to accurately represent the downright stupid and nonsensical way that battles are portrayed in the canon, and yet lots of people can accept that because they've been conditioned to it. Remember, these ethical and philosophical issues ALREADY EXIST within the canon medium. Pokemon are shown to exhibit understanding of higher order abstract thinking that no other animal on Earth is capable of. We can actually teach a monkey to communicate using language, but all pokemon show far more cognitive development. You can't say that an alien mind interpretation requires focus in a story without admitting that no canon pokemon story can exist without the same requirements.

>>27847546
>>27847617
>In the anime, games, and mangas, even the lowliest pokemon show higher order functions far more developed than the average human toddler

Comparing them to human infants instead of animals is not helpful. Also, not every source treats them the same. You don't really see much of how Pokémon behave in the games outside of game mechanics and flavor text that frequently clashes with not just mechanics but also real-world-based logic (without any in-universe context to have it make sense).

>An alien mind is not intrinsically 'impossible to understand' but it might be logically unsound when compared to a human frame of reference. Values that we instinctively hold may be inimicable to an alien mind, meaning that the only way for us to 'understand' it is to remove our own standard of judgement.

The thing is, when I see something like that in a story, I want to learn more about it. I want to see the context that leads to 'alien logic' making sense. What usually happens instead is that said alien mindsets just happen to be incredibly convenient for the characters and/or the rest of the world (and therefore the author), with the necessary context simply not shown, and that's where I'm getting suspicious.

(cont.)

cont. from >>27848388

>Pokemon are shown to exhibit understanding of higher order abstract thinking that no other animal on Earth is capable of. We can actually teach a monkey to communicate using language, but all pokemon show far more cognitive development.

The games abstract many 'realistic' parts of training monsters away for the sake of better gameplay. As far as I remember, in the anime, Pokémon are as smart as the current plot needs them to be and Pokéspe wasn't much different in that regard.
If Pokémon are smarter than e.g. irl monkeys, why has NO ONE in canon taught a Pokémon to read and write? If they are so advanced, why have we never seen successful attempts at crossing the language barrier? By the way, the anime is a terrible source, because if that actually happened, it was a throwaway episode with no consequences instead of A WORLD-SHAKING SCIENTIFIC BREAKTHROUGH. The canon does not back your claims. It is too mechanical/inconsistent to actually support a definitive statement about the mental capabilities of Pokémon.
Actually, why has the presence of magical telepathy in some parts of the canon not shaken up the world? Negating the language barrier would be HUGE, and supposedly canon already provides the means for that (not in the main videogames though, outside of weird outliers).
If you want the standard setup to work (and have it work without bad implications), you have to go with a more animalistic portrayal of Pokémon intelligence. The canon is full of holes, and it's the fanfic writer's job to patch them up. Said patches however still need to make sense and should not be built from laziness.

(cont.)

cont. from >>27848407

>I personally find writing off the problem of pokemon intelligence as an alien mind much easier to swallow than a story that tries to accurately represent the downright stupid and nonsensical way that battles are portrayed in the canon

My issue is that authors do it out of laziness more often than not. Of course Pokémon are basically as smart as people, that's why they have magical linguistic talents and understand any vague command perfectly (and why it's okay to fuck them, for the poképhilia stories that aspire to be more than fetish material). Oh, but unlike people, they're always nice and obedient as long as the trainer follows The Rules Of The Game (even if they lived in buttfuck nowhere and thus shouldn't even know what humans are, or if they have friends and family in the wild and thus reasons not to be caught), and they always stay out of the way like good servants when the trainer doesn't need them, and they don't have their own goals (which might conflict with the trainer's; can't have that), and they're also helpless hostages so the Evil Team still functions and the protagonist can show his Goodness by yelling at the token Abusive Trainer AND they're property but it's still ~friendship~ because anyone who writes like that is basically blind and deaf. It's lazy handwaving for the sake of avoiding having to put any thought into how the world the author is writing works and that's what I can't stand.

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So try-harding aside, how's everyone doing today?

>>27848763
Busy busy.

So /vpwt/ whats the average Pokemon lifespan in your story? how much does it vary with species? Do ghost types live forever?

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Think I'll try to write smut of pic related. It's probably gonna suck.

>>27849612
>Do ghost types live forever?
This especially is heavily species-dependant. Gastly is just a ball of gas, so I'm certain whatever force keeps it from spreading all over the world would let up eventually, and it would dissipate. But like, Golurk is made out of clay and are said to have existed for hundreds or thousands of years or whatever. And Spiritomb lies dormant in the Odd Keystone until... until some kid in Sinnoh sticks it into that one specific stone tower, I guess.

How do I get a serious Fic noticed in a sea of autistic Fanfiction? Do I have to wait til 50 chapters in for the fanfare to arrive?

>>27850453
At least, but plan for 100 to be sure. It also helps if by "serious" you mean "pornographic" or "featuring popular waifumons."

>Six years into this shit.
>Only fic that ever gets noticed at all by anything is because it features a loaner Gardevoir.
>Everything else is each a statement of defiance, not unlike a captain sinking with his ship.
>likeaboss.gif

>>27850680 six years into this shit. Either deleted or stopped writing anything I've started.

>>27850453
you shill the fic everywhere outside of FFN. That's honestly the only thing I can think of.

>>27850365
if you're worried about it sucking, try looking at >>27634502
>>27742699

>>27849612
Yeah, species dependent. Ghosts are functionally immortal, just not invulnerable. Depending on the typing and biology, other pokemon could live from a decade to centuries/millennia.

>>27850453
It's hard. Pandering, using common ships and writing smut is a surefire way to catapult towards visibility though not particularly insightful critique. Writing stuff that isn't that means you have to contend with luck, more or less, as your success hinges on people just pushing your shit around to friends.

Readership drops fucking hard as you travel from smut to character study though, especially if you're not writing humorous character study or writing about a popular one. Genre has a huge impact too. For instance: 60k views versus 1k - romance/adventure vs tragedy. Same universe, same characters involved.

Either way, expect to get next to no critique and limited exposure if you're doing something serious unless you strike it big with what you've made, and even then, real critique is a rare white elk.

>>27823127
>start writing
>anxious
>finish writing
>anxious to post it.

I had a long papyrus to think and write about the whole worldbuilding and Pokémon intelligence thing, but due to broken bybrd, it'll have to wait until some other time.

In the meantime, some quickie thoughts.

>There better be a damn good reason that a setting with sapient Pokemon isn't in a near-constant state of either revolt or near revolt.
Not saying it doesn't, but why set the bar at this particular height, when it's easy and natural to justify a world with sapient Pokémon that is stable? Just don't assume that implies peaceful or uneventful, this is a world where there are near-apocalypses on a two years basis.

>Near-human level intelligence
Many people use this and I feel it as buzzword, given "intelligence" as we barely define it is not a graded line but something like a mesh of traits and behaviours. And we humans are severely lacking in certain directions, so I would not say that "near-human intelligence" is a "good" standard to compare to. It's too anthropocentric in a world where you specifically don't want to limit yourself to think of humans.

>The problem is that it's a concept heavy enough that it requires significant investment, and thus will really take over any other sort of mundane plot you try to put alongside it. I
That's what you have a meta for. Write the story about the mundane plot you want. If someone asks about the deep questions, you can refer them to your Universe Bible, Chapter 3, Section 1. Of course, assuming it is written yet. There is no sin in wanting to focus on the actual story you want to tell rather than on the myriad of things going on in the background, that will stiill be there tomorrow or next year when you finish your literary adventure.

>If they are so advanced, why have we never seen successful attempts at crossing the language barrier?
Would they have a reason to? We have advanced enough to climb trees and lure and catch birds on fly, but we do choose to leave that task to cats.

>>27851586
sometimes you need to JUST and wing it

Request Female Rowlet3 x Male Trainer NSFW fic <3

>>27851603
>>If they are so advanced, why have we never seen successful attempts at crossing the language barrier?
>Would they have a reason to? We have advanced enough to climb trees and lure and catch birds on fly, but we do choose to leave that task to cats.

Yes, definitely. For example, I'm pretty sure Pokémon biologists would find it useful if they could interview Pokémon instead of having to derive everything from observation. Two-way communication would also help immensely with many tasks done by humans and Pokémon working together. Language barriers are a big fucking deal between humans; they can be the difference between life and death. I don't see how breaking them would be any less important in the case of humans and 'near-human'-level nonhumans, especially considering the latter are usually integrated into human societies in one way or another.
Don't dismiss language as trivial. Ever noticed how many irredeemably hostile intelligent nonhumans in fiction don't speak human languages? Not a coincidence. You'd have serious trouble ever achieving mutual peace with someone you can't properly communicate with.

>>27850453
Shill like a madman? I go to enough boards and forums to spread my seed, and then I can spread my seed if you know what I mean. I also do a mix of conceptually interesting smuts and self-indulgent stories, so that might also help. I am also hardly known anyway.

>>27850680
How much is 160 views? Cuz I feel like it's a lot, at least for a kudos per 18.

>>27852790
Compared to that guy who gets 70,000 in a month…*ahem*
>kudos
AO3 is difficult to estimate for because it's far newer so it has lower adoption and importation stats. But checking my numbers, I'm at 16¼ views per kudos (without LL being on that site) so 18:1 isn't far behind me, whatever that's worth. (Surely not much.)

>>27852116
...Except that it seems they already have all of that. If there was a "language barrier", it was crossed long ago, or they're just enough that working past it is seamless. Trainers can for the most part perfectly understand what their Pokémon say and viceversa. Nonperfect understanding also resonates well with how dialects, body language and contextual language work in the real world, except clustered as new, quickly migrating structures.

Sure, there's " but Pokédex entries", though, we all know how badly that one "works". And just because the world appears advanced enough to inspect these elements (machines that can read Pokémon dreams, anyone?) does not mean they are not in the *first* stages of going through. Would help explain part of the motivation behind Team Plasma, even.

Similarly, don't confuse "language barrier" with "human-language barrier", let alone with "human-like speech". That's the unneeded anthropomorphocentrism talking again. You are assuming that for something to be "intelligent" it has to have a morphology capable of human speech, and has to be able to speak /primarily/ human language the human way, with a mouth and sound and stuff. We already have Pokémon able of telepathy and sense-sharing, and much more than that.

There's also the implying that Pokémon should be engaging in eugenics to favour Darwinian evolution to make their species' morphologies able of exact human speech. At that point if Pokémon are "intelligent" or not is the lesser of your problems.

>>27853026
>Trainers can for the most part perfectly understand what their Pokémon say

Maybe in your world, but in the vast majority of interpretations, including most canon ones, that's a special case at best. It can't be taken as a given because the source material doesn't state or even imply it and thus it isn't a general assumption of how the Pokémon world works. The canon shows/implies rudimentary or no understanding in most cases. Deviating from it is part of individual worldbuilding, not something you can expect the reader to just assume as normal. (Which is part of what the previous discussion was about.)

>You are assuming that for something to be "intelligent" it has to have a morphology capable of human speech, and has to be able to speak /primarily/ human language the human way, with a mouth and sound and stuff.

Incorrect. The part you previously quoted already referred to workarounds. My point about communication still stands. You can't negotiate with someone whose messages you can't understand. You were previously comparing the need to be able to communicate to some triviality that doesn't need addressing.

Is pawn still here?

boop

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>>27845858
It is. Trades can be harsh though, and we have a backup of shit to do and stock to manage, so I put in more hours.

>>27850365
Don't be afraid, just write! I recently wrote my first smutfic and I'm more than pleased with the way it came out

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>>27793292
>cold extremities

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>>27853026
tripfag, opinion dropped

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>>27859114
Where is his trip? Show me the tripcode, newfriend. Point me to it.

There is none, and you don't know what you're talking about. Fuck off and lurk until you can at least pretend to know what you're talking about.

>>27859114
>calling out a tripfag
>in a place where names are everywhere because authors
The bullshit you are speaking is depleting the ozone

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>>27793292

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>>27859205
>>27859174
Come on guys, the hook hasn't anything on it

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>>27859114
>tripfag

Come on man, I barely get what namefag means and you're kicking me upstairs already ;_;


>>27853716
The canon shows/implies rudimentary or no understanding in most cases.
Care to qualify that statement? The games barely show bidirectional communication at all, and the anime(s) tend to showcase at least context-aware means of communication, not to mention the ability of Pokémon to either confirm or reject the interlocutor's interpretation of their message.

The canons without bidirectional communication (eg.: Rumble) I'm not sure if thy even matter, but the ones with, I can't see any strong grounds for not be taken as given.

>>27859205
And we all know what lives in the ozone layer...

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>>27859114

>read nice fic for an hour or so
>ending is totally rushed and is ruined
I'm mad.

>>27862534
Care to share?

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>>27859264
I have a feeling this is an image we will be seeing a lot of in the future.

>>27861326
How about you present some evidence for "perfect understanding" first? The main canons don't show the average trainer being able to precisely understand what their Pokémon are saying. You even admitted that the games don't really show anything there at all. No, it can't be assumed as standard that trainers have the same magical linguist ability that Pokémon frequently display (and most people don't assume that; seriously, where does your assertion come from?)

>>27861326

choroy don't you think its kind of less interesting when you make pokemon and trainers perfectly understand each other? that language barrier is part of the charm of the series imo, it makes trainers have to work harder in cooperating with and befriending a species alien to our own

>>27864608
In most Pokémon stories, there is little to no "befriending" going on in the first place, especially if it's one of those "Pokémon are almost like people but it's totally okay to recruit them through violence and expect perfect obedience" kind of stories.

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>>27862534
>Follow a still-updating fantastic fic that does well with its cliche and makes it interesting despite its shallowness
>Has a fabulous tragic end that undermines the characters' efforts and firmly cements the plot
>Limp-wristed bitchfags start doing their typical bitch and moaning that sad ends can exist, people who have been recommended the fic start double-thinking after being spoiled that the end is an all-for-naught
>Author scribbles very quickly up a shitty epilogue that takes place a mere minute after the end, then thoroughly reverses every negative that ever happened ever and floored the gas on dues ex machina, all just to get that undeserved saccharine ending which made no sense

It's been like 5 years and I'm still mad

>>27865137
Tell me more

>>27865459
No, it's not pokemon related

>>27864492
Point taken on the "perfectly", I do tend to abuse the term for notation; the big picture issue is that the kinds of messages Trainer and Pokémon /tend/ to cross with each other /are/ solved past ambiguity, so there is something of some sort going on there. Sometimes wilds get on it too, when they first meet the random character of the day who is totes gonna become a Trainer by the end of the episode, even. Heck, the norm in the anime and at least the early iterations of Pokéspé is that there is a colloquial class of messages that is clearly (enough) understood between humans and Pokémon regardless of species and prior experience - at least in what the episodes bother to prove.

We'll probably learn more the day we see the Digletts from the dam interacting with a human toddler.


>it can't be assumed as standard that trainers have the same magical linguist ability that Pokémon frequently display
In fact it can't be assumed of Pokémon either, or at least not that they all employ the same one.
What it is observable is that there's somthing that works, and works very well; it does _not_ mean too many barriers are broken like in Digimon tho.

>>27864608
Less interesting? No, not if it has a building weight bhind. I'd expect certain classes of characters to understand each other "perfectly" (once again, abusing for notation) though, like long-lived active Trainrers with their Starters, and that does not make it at all less interesting. In fact, years of RPing experience suggests that a discrete breaking of barriers strngthens character relations - and as it forces them to adscribe motive to the other's behaviour, interactions of the "he/she unsaid" kind become more engaging to others than merely "sorry third party, my Fire-type arm doesn't feel like punching you today".

Of course, I can't guarantee everyone adds such a supporting weight but that's their issue first than mine.

>>27866324
>the kinds of messages Trainer and Pokémon /tend/ to cross with each other /are/ solved past ambiguity

That's nowhere near close to full communication and no basis for your earlier implication that trying to achieve more would be considered unnecessary by basically everyone.

>What it is observable is that there's somthing that works, and works very well

In canon, humans generally do not have the ability to understand Pokémon the way Pokémon can understand eachother or humans. You're adjusting it for the purposes of your world. It's not a default value and thus can't be dropped in without context.

The common, lazy "Pokémon are inherently benevolent so them being 'sapient' never causes conflict" setup too many authors use can't be justified. Trying to bend spurious/absent canon parts to basically claim that the world Just Works is not helpful.

With all this talk of the language barrier, I just realized I've never read a fic where a trainer tries to establish non-verbal communication. I've seen some where the author mentions that a pokemon (not well equipped for sign language) communicates with sign language, but usually as a way to hand wave the issue. If pokemon are intelligent in a setting, it seems like step one whenever acquiring a new pokemon would be to work out basic communication: teach them to nod for yes, work out a signal to ask for food, etc.

boop

League results are in, but the write thread must survive!

Bump to counter the salt avalanche

Man, people sure care a lot about advertising cartoons.

>>27874884
it shows despite the infamous thing about the anime how much people actually watch it amongst the shitposting

I want the anime to go and stay go

Boop

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>>27881444

>tfw new Mon confirmed and anime news
So much hype train in one day

hype-survival bump

I never knew this thread existed.

I've always wanted to write a fic, but one of those incredibly stupid ones that is on the level of Half-Life Full Life Consequences.

>>27885582
You could wing it out and give it a shot though I'm more fond of team fabulous 2 guy's antics

>>27885582
Are you soon going to want to enough to do it?

THIS FANFIC WAS CONFIRMED!

http://pastebin.com/GiWy4a8Y

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Feeling really depressed today. Can any recommend a nice, long fluff fic?

>>27886535
This needs submission for confirmation

>>27887074
By what do you mean?

>>27886543
http://pastebin.com/ayLvMR9j
Long ones aren't really my thing, but this absol piece was shared a few threads back. SFW

>>27887203
Needs to be put into the catalog for keeps sake

>>27890328
Done.

So i remember reading a gay typhlosion(or quilava?) x trainer fanfiction a while back that i can't seem to find anywhere?
I think it was about the trainer coming back home from work and then the typhlosion imminently started dominating the trainer and it had apparently been going on for a while if i remember right.

Can anyone help me?

>>27891771
I think it's on agnph

>>27892070
Thanks i found it.

>>27886543
Both incomplete and abandoned, but long and fluffy.

A Darkrai gets caught and learns to be friendly and hug and stuff.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/11417193/1/In-a-Blue-Moon

PMD Sky with fluff.
https://www.fanfiction.net/s/10131562/1/If-I-Were-Just-a-Little-Braver


There seems to be a serious lack of fluffy works out there. Or if there are some, I'm not having much luck finding them.

>>27892913
Thanks, friend.

>>27892913
God damn I really hope In A Blue Moon doesn't stay abandoned. That shit and Pedestal got me through sophomore year.

>>27892913
Braver is abandoned? Doesn't the author still appear here though?

>>27867920
Since most authors just go with interpretations of what canon material has shown us (the anime and games both show Pokémon responding to human words that aren't exclusively battle terms), they likely don't find the need for awkward symbols and hand gestures. If even IRL domestic animals easily learn words like "food", "yes", "bad", "walk", and good pet owners learn the meanibgs behind their animals' body language and tones of voice then why would exponentially more intelligent and verbally expressive Pokémon need to work with gestures and symbols?

>>27893063
The weekly updates were really nice.
>>27894357
It's coming up on 2 years without an update, but yeah the author comes by here once in awhile.
>>27894562
Gestures would be completely pointless for a trainer to learn if pokemon can understand human language anyways, but I can't imagine that grunts and barks are sufficient to express anything more complex than basic needs. If a trainer and pokemon were going to be together for years, it seems practical and reasonable to work out some better ways to communicate. I'm not saying that they should develop a full working sign language, but some better form of communication would be beneficial for both parties.

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>>27894357
no i dont

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>>27897475
when will you come out of hiding and bless us with your story-words, mystery man

>>27897763
dunno lol

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>27858807
>27859264

>Mfw I accidentally created a monster

Wow, now I feel all the shame I didn't feel while working on it. You know, since she's made of steel, I thought her arms/hands whatever qouod be cold to the touch and because I have heard a lot that temperature play can be really... pleasing, I just thought I could include itIt was a mistake

>>27898368
Fuck, forgot how to properly tag

>>27898368
Don't worry anon I can relate to that kink actually

>>27898421
I don't wanna go searching for them in this thread so I'll just make the tag to find them easily

>>27858807
>>27859264

How do you write? Like how do you start the story? How do you decide the setting? Writing characters? Describing things? Writing erotica? etc.

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>>27898743
Get your characters' personalities planned out beforehand.

>>27898743
I make words in a sequence that is nice to read, and proceed to continue that trend for the next seventy thousand words.

>>27898743
I get an idea, at some point in time I start typing. If it's meant to be it will (mostly) take care of itself from that point.

semi-alcoholic lit major here, thinking about writing something in the style of Kafka's "Investigations of a dog" but with pokemon instead of dogs, whaddya guys think?

>>27898743
I sit down and whatever falls onto the page is fair game until my editor gets to it. Then it gets torn apart and redone. All the small stuff gets worked out along the way.

>>27900714
Doesn't sound too bad I think. Try to keep it at semi-alcoholic yeah? Don't want to lose a fellow lit bro.

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>>27885582
Do it, anon. We don't bite.

Sometimes.

>>27902072
It's 4chan 31 evs on sp. atk
0 evs on physical atk.

the power to convince you to kill youself but we can't actually cause any physical harm onto you

>>27902198
Sorry I meant ivs

>>27902198
Help me here anon
You're saying you're writing a fic about how 4chan is a Pokemon with IVs?
...Well, it's not the worst idea I've seen here, but still, interesting.

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Can't wait for Ears 2 to be finished, Cherish Phasers set to maximum.

I may have time to write next week, and I'm not sure whether to celebrate or cry. Also, to that booty anon I know is in here, I really don't feel like I can or should make a sequel to that story, since it was so obviously rushed and scattered, it just isn't what I want to do anymore. From now on, when I write, I'm going to put some semblance of effort into it. So, apologies, but no electric bootyloo.
Time to pick myself up. Again.

>>27902768
No I'm simply replying to what >>27902072
said on not biting, no way in hell did you actually think I was writing a fic about 4chan as pokemon with ivs

>>27902828
You'd be surprised what people will write about anon.

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>>27902799
>MoM
>Finished

I've got it worked out that there are going to be at least 10 chapters. 10 of MY chapters. The kind that can go beyond 15k words if it's hype enough.

That being said, chapter 2 is on course to being Google Doc'd in about 3 days. It's not too big because next chapter is going to be.

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>>27903077
I have an autistic thing where I like to have a backlog of chapters to read, I still haven't read the first one out of said autism.
I see your point, however. Good luck!

>>27903077
God mimiga I know I know I'm an uncultured swine to not recognize what it's from but every time you post a pic of that bird I just think of chirpy

>>27903150
I have an autistic thing where I like to write fanfiction

>>27903194
You are not an uncultured swine for not recognizing a furfag fetish webcomic that is mostly mediocre.

However, cloaca is top taste

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>>27903366
>I have an autistic thing where I like to write fanfiction
tfw

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>>27780124
http://pastebin.com/nvzyN9L6
It's a dark themed NSFW story but would you expect anything else from a rape fic lmao
Good evening anons, my name is Pawn, and I'll be your pilot during this flight. Make sure to buckle your seat belts and get cozy, cause our next stop is Flavortown, and it'll be a wild ride. Thank you for choosing Guy Fieri Airlines, and we hope you enjoy the experience.

(So sorry this was late Skyla anon, I'll spoiler my blogpost if you really want to know why I'm late :c)
my first version was absolute liquid diarrhea
like I got mad at myself and scrapped it for writing such an atrocity
then I finished v2 on Monday but I got fucking banned for POSTING SFW BRAIXEN ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME MODS
my ban's over now though

>>27855210
I'M BACK FROM BANLAND BABEEEEEEE
Didya miss me~?

>>27906306
The tense confusion makes the progression of events difficult to follow

>>27906622
Well that was my intention anon
I wanted to put the reader in Skyla's mindset towards the end of the fic so you'd be able to see how badly the rape affected her
By fogging the clarity of the story little by little until *poof*
your sense of understanding is gone just like her life , I wanted to expand a little on the mental downward spiral she experienced afterwards
I'll admit it was poor execution though, sorry to disappoint
I guess I'm like a movie franchise
The more you milk me, the worse I get haha :w:
TL:DR failed mindfuck

>>27906306
OR of Skyla fic. That was quite a nice read, though I do agree that there is a bit of tense confusion. Still had a nice read though.
Of course stories like that never end well, usually for the angry guy, so seeing her fall into despair is a nice change of pace.

>>27906306
Sorry to pester, but I guess I have a request in mind after sickboy's ragequit from writing fics, this one involving illumise. All the autism for this idea is stowed away here

http://pastebin.com/1GQXxfrh

Night bump

>>27909760
Delet this.

>>27903194
What>>27903366 said.

>>27907144
Just keep swimming, bro

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>>27914508
Aww, thanks Dory. c:
>>27907252
You wanna request me for a fic?
Well uh, I'll take your request, but you gotta keep in mind that I do these to warm up my writing skills, so quality's not guaranteed. Are you fine with that?

>>27915807
Well, I read your other pieces from before and they seem fine enough to me.
If anything, based on the recent one you wrote, just keep in mind this short piece about the passive voice https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27368215/#27432681

Otherwise go for it!

>>27915972
Haha, do they really?
Well thank you for the compliment anon, I appreciate it.
I've never heard of this passive voice thing before though. I mean to give you an idea of my writing "knowledge" I'm in my third year of college now and before today I didn't even know this existed.

Also >>27910292
Cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute
Made my morning seeing the two best Eevees being lovebirds

>>27793292
Cuuuute!

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>>27902799
Aw, and I guess revisiting is out of the question as well if you feel like that.
Oh well, can't do much about that.

Good luck with your future writing endeavors though!

>>27916706
>college third year
>never heard of passive voice

Maybe I'm just spoiled by the northeastern education system but how the literal fuck is this possible? Even high school teachers warn against using passive voice.

>>27902799
you should just fucking quit, your last fic made me vomit.

>>27920265
It really depends on the area. If the PTA wants babysitters to coddle their precious snowflakes instead of educators who will use red marking pens, the schools will sink to the lowest possible level that can almost pass the next-year's-funding exams; the difference will be made up by fixing the figures or lowering the standard another notch.

>>27921515
I didn't used to believe this, but then I learned firsthand that there are high schools in this country that don't teach students how to write a thesis statement. One singular sentence, and millions of students go on to college having no idea how to formulate one. God has abandoned us.

>>27921515
It is this terrible fact that made me glad I went to a Humanities magnet high school. Sure, my degree is in Literature as a result, but god damn it, learned to write.

>>27922359
>implying college isn't just a mechanism by which young people are enchained with debt while the NFL previews their next quarries.
God hasn't abandoned anybody. But in a culture that has wilfully chosen to pursue mediocrity and to denigrate the above-average, God finds few places where the miracle of education is welcomed and has no interest in interfering with the natural order.

Yet, it is provided. Anybody of any age with the gumption can access literally every piece of knowledge that isn't being actively restricted; but standing before this oracle, what do we choose?

Overall, we choose a poorly balanced meal.

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>>27919009
Sorry anon :(
Glad you understand, I just need to keep trying to better myself.
>>27920291
While not the intended reaction, I'm still happy to get feedback! Thank you for reading it.
But may I ask why you would read it, considering what it was about, if you don't enjoy that kind of thing?

>>27898450
Aah Although I don't really share that kink, I'm glad to see somebody understands

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>>27917659
Thank you so much!

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>>27924784
hmm...out of curiosity, would you take offense if I find someone else to make the sequel, using what you wrote before as a reference?

>>27902828
I might still read it

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I seriously haven't written anything in, like, four years.
But some asshole from 2008 or something finally crawled his ass out of the woodwork and fucking CAME BACK TO LIFE HOLY SHIT HE'S GONNA FINISH HIS FUCKING STORY.

Anyway yeah, looking to get back into the groove of things but. Like- I'm not seeing my angle here of NSFW business.
Like- okay you know how /tg/ basically looks at a new being and says "What's that?" followed by "Can I fuck it?"
Basically like that- but more romantic.
Like, I enjoy the idea of some trainer with say a Deoxys and that new Palosand (yes that sandcastle pokemon) and realizing to them- they love them. And the feeling is mutual. But uh, how the fuck they gonna do it?
The appeal here is in mutual recognition of each other and mutual desires but being presented with biological conditions that they explore until there's a format of sexual identify with them that they can express and act upon.

So...less common human/pokemon interactions I guess. Even less sexual and more romantic is good to learn up on. (and for fucks sake- variety. Every goddamn fuckers picks like Absol or that illusion dark type I can't even rememeber the name of or just a fucking canine period for fucks sake)

>>27931860
Deoxys is a virus, innit? Shouldn't it be able to reproduce via space germ bullshit? You could probably do weird fetish things with the sandcastle, though I'm not sure if something like that CAN feel sexual arousal. I'm sure it doesn't have a dick of any kind, at least. Ghost types are typically not ones to be born in any sort of traditional way, and are usually literal ghosts who haunt the vessels they are in.

>>27932108
I was more concerned with the physical aspect with regards to Deoxys since I'm not touching the whole reproduction thing- let other anon's do that, that leads down a whole different path.
Also nah, I was thinking of like male trainer female(?) sandcastle thing or whatevs and how the FUCK do ghost pokemon work period?

>>27932221
Well for example, Banette is a great example of what it means for a ghost type to manifest. Shuppet is based off some japanese bullshit ritual thing where I believe little sheet puppets are put up to ward away ghosts (?). Every one of its entries points that it is a pokemon that feeds from vengeful emotions, and will more often than not stalk those who have envious hearts and whatnot. The reason it evolves into a Banette is because it would have found a lost doll that had been abandoned and used it as a vessel. The reason why a doll would possess the most potent feelings of vengeance is because of the child who had grown distant and left it with age. One would think that, if a doll could retain some sentience after a child had pretended it did for a long enough time, it would feel betrayal and anger above all else in its forgotten state. Thus, spirit who eats vengeance meets object of willful loss.

Since we don't really know anything in-depth about the sandcastle ghosts, we don't know shit. Unless there's some weird Hawaii folklore somewhere.

>>27932221
You may be interested in the Pokephilia Mating Guide. It briefly discusses mating habits and how they pertain to human/pokemon relationships for several dozen different species, including some of the weird ones.

http://pastebin.com/cz7PX8hL

>>27931860
You are a man of refined taste. I look forward to seeing what you churn out. Any idea what mon you want to explore first?

>>27931860
You mean Zoroark?
Also you should try and write some ideas for the ideabin then anon, maybe a writer might get inspired and write a fic for you.

So was that Drasna/Calem smutfic ever written?

>>27934560
never ever. Anons just keep on disappearing every time they try

new thread
>>27936103