So can we accept that X is Charizard's true mega form and

The way I always saw it was that charizard y was the actual intended mega and that x was just added because fans wanted charizard to be a dragon type

They pushed x more for that reason because they knew those fans would eat it up, plus it's a better posterboy for mega evolutions because it's a more drastic change

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>>27742943
It's also Charizard's final smash in Smash 4

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>>27742943
charizard y is the best one, its came first, looks like a charizard, designwise is better.

gamefreak pushed out charizard x just because of little faggots complaining about
>muh dragon doent have dragontyping
good doesnt get a shitton of more weaknesses
>its better because its black and black is epic
its trash when it comes to coloring, just to pander to edgy 12 yearolds.
> designvise its a charizard with retarded shoulderspikes blue mouth herpes and some stupid looking wings.

i like it but the overuse, constantly being showed down your throat, and the cancerous fanbase ruins the pokemon for me

charizard y is superior in every way

>>27743315
except in battle

>>27743337
charizard y is better in competetive battle, why do you think the ones that uses charizard competetivly uses charizard y?

Charizard X is more popular because

>Black and blue
>Dragon type
>Blue flames

Kids love that shit

>>27743337
Depends. I like Y, he's my sp.atk sweeper of choice.

Charisard sucks regardless. Genwunner autists and underage sperglords are the only people who I ironically like it. And checks like that try-hard nip on the pokémon show in Japan.

M-Charizard X adds the edgelord contingency to mix.

Y is for fedora tipping memesters.

Charizard is a spectrum pokémon. It's too bad it's entire fanbase is also on the spectrum.

>>27743386
Charizard is as good if not better than Charizard Y in singles.

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>>27743337
1/2

>>27743432
You mean charizard x is better? Cause there's no way charizard classic is better that it's higher stat sunny day y version

>>27742943
How do you feel about mewtwo?
I think IF you're correct, mewtwo Y was the original mega.

>>27743315
But anon the dragon type benefits it, in fact it only adds a weakness to dragon

>>27743575
not op btw

mewtwo y and charizard y came first
the x versions were just shoehorned in because the originals werent edgy enough

Yzard is too edgy

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>>27743337
2/2

>>27743575
I actually think Y is the true mega too but that contradicts one of my arguments about charizard x; the fact that x is the "default" game

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>>27743676
>bait

>>27743628
And ground because it's not flying anymore

>>27743718
Are you upset that you have liked the edgy version and didn't even realiE it?

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>>27743794
>calling charizard y edgy
are you blind`?

>>27743743
and fairy

>>27743940
Fire typing negates it

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>>27743315
>designwise is better

>retarded fish fins sprouting on his arms for no reason
>random third horn poking out from the back of his head that makes him look like the Conehead
>generic ass shark fins on his tail
>ragged wings that look like they're made out of old floor wipes

yeah no

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>>27744007
>retarded leaflooking gliderwings
>random two small horns under the two big ones on its head
>dumb as fuck looking shoulderspikes
>retarded unoticable neckspikes
>stupid looking blue plamevomit
>edgy coloring, for the sake of being edgy
>one of the dumbest looking shinys in existance
>turbo autismo fanbase
>waaay to overused, considering it has a far less superior design to y

yeah no

>>27744007
the extra spikes and arm wings would work as stabilasors for it when playing, its a much more aerodynamic desing and makes sense when you thin about its flying typing, its supposed to be a fast sp attacker after all

>>27742943
Y is the mascot of the Yokohama Pokecenter and will continue to get specialized merch like the other mascots.

>>27742943
no faget

>>27743712
Why? Y is the red colored game, more times than not that's the go to default.

Somebody shoop Xzard into having the same coloration as the rest of the zards, it might make it a little more tolerable.

Y is the superior Mega Zard, dunno why is X being pushed so hard in games like SSB and Pokken and Anime Origins/XY

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>>27744786
looks better but not as good as y

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Charizard X is a fatass

>>27742943

Dragon Charizard has bias because people wanted Charizard to be part dragon for years

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>Alan uses Xtard
What other reason do you need for it being so shit?

>>27744007
better =/= good

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>>27745263
She sure is

>>27746418
die

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>>27746457
Nah

>>27742943
"True" is irrelevant for Mega forms. They are mutations outside of the native lifecycle from space rocks. They simply are different approaches to it with Y taking what existed about Charizard such as effectiveness with the sun and enhancing it while X approaches a different angle for fire-breathing reptile monster. Similar to Mega Mewtwo X and Y while one emphasizes the engineered weapon nature while the other the fetal psychic being.

>>27743743

But it loses electric and water weakness. Both versions are weak to only 3 types, and Zard X loses 4x weakness.

>>27742943
Y is the real mega, X was fanservice. Y fits in perfectly with the other Kanto starter megas. Mewtwo X is also retarded, Y actually makes sense.