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Drgonite Alolan Form incoming http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/su

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Drgonite Alolan Form incoming
http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/160812_07.html
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>>27723041
what does it mean ?
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Fuck Dragonite, Zubat's getting some love.
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>>27723041
>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/160812_07.html
What did they mean by this?
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Please be a blue serpent
Please be a blue serpent
Please be a blue serpent
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>>27723122
We get it. You want to fuck dragonaire.
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>still no sign of non-genwun alolan forms
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>>27723041
dragonite's claws look to pointy, better smooth them out!
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>>27723041
I wish. What's this actually about?
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>>27723072
Right next to Dragonite, check the website.
Don't know if it means anything though
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>>27723155
It could be that kanto is simply where all aloan ancestry came from.
The promise of region variances is a lot more promising for future games than mega evolution imo despite how much I liked some of them. Just fits better I guess.
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>>27723193
Alolan Zubat.. But.. we have Crobat?

Are there even bats on tropical islands?
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It's very bizarre.
The dragonite line and the zubat line have both been added to the japanese Sun/Moon website.

Their entire evolutionary lines are visible in their original forms. No hints towards any alola forms or anything.

It's really weird.
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>>27723155
>gen 2 will forever be the worst competitive gen
I don't want to live
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>>27723155
just praying that they're only doing this for marketing purposes and we'll actually get non-Gen 1 Alolan forms
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>>27723238
MEGA
E
G
A
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>>27723294
The other one is Zubat and not Crobat, so that doesn't make sense either.
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I've just checked it... they are just listed in the Alola pokedex section and they are totally separate from the alolan form category as "Pokemon that have been found so far"... I think it just mean they will be in the game, but no alolan forms for them
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>>27723224
Yep. Hawaii has a species of native bats
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Crobat and Dragonite are getting Mega Evolutions
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>>27723122
Please this! Even 1999 kid me didn't like the sudden change to pudge dragon. Dragonair winded up being the "pikachu" I didn't evolve for awhile.
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>>27723333
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>>27723240
Tyranitar is still my favorite and he shall always be relevant.
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After making a crawl on the site, it could be they are the next in lind.

I noticed also that Magearna is referenced as maboroshi_01. Looking at other naming images, I can only assume there is more than one maboroshi. Anyone care to translate that word?
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https://twitter.com/Pokemon_cojp/status/763910394263969792

What did he mean by this?
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quality translation
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>>27723477
It says that in "Duo Battle" that the two of them will "mega combine"
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Zubat and Golbat were shown in the trailers today, maybe Crobat will get an Alolan form if the other 2 were shown unchanged?
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>>27723504
What?
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>>27723477
>>27723333
>>27723155
>>27723122
>>27723099
wow
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>>27723477
Someone said about them being in the game
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>>27723041
>>27723477
PLEASE FIX DRAGONITE GAMEFREAK
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>>27723519
Nah, the Japanese twitter just posted something like "two classic Pokemon return to Alola!" Their whole evolution lines are listed on that page, so it doesn't seem likely.
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>>27723504
Fusion?
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>>27723487
I too am a sexual, fresh green
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>>27723041
I hope this means they are getting Alola forms tomorrow but most likely it's just saying they can be found in Alola.
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>>27723155
Just wait for Kingdra.
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>>27723041
>>27723155
>all this genwunning
>even surfing raichu
>Still no fucking crystal onix
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>>27723487
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>>27723122
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>tfw you will never wear a pair of dratini boots
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>>27723621
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>Alolan Dragonite
>Dragon/Water
>Ability: Drizzle
>Has higher sp atk than atk
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>>27723122
>mfw it gets even fatter
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>>27723122
Why do people have such a love for Dragonair? It's just a blue snake.
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>>27723504
No it doesn't.
>To "Pokemon Sun Moon", that Kairyu and Zubatto appeared! Familiar Pokemon us, I'm looking forward to what show us what success!
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>>27723681
source
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>>27723421
How do you run him?
I'm finding it hard to use him competitively here lately
He usually gets OHKO no matter what because his weaknesses are so common

Also what's a good mon to pair with him and sandstream
I'm using stoutland but other mons who work well are usually rock or ground
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>>27723693

>Why do people have such a love for *pokemon*? it's just a *color/trait* *animal/object/plant*.
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>>27723693
Literally Darkmirage
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>>27723155
anti-genwunners BTFO
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>>27723041
Shit, the japanese site is so much nicer than the american one
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>>27723608
>only seadra gets one
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>>27723693
yeah but it's cute and they want to fuck it
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>>27723750
I know, but people usually call it majestic or beautiful or shit like that but when you look at it, there's nothing really special going on.
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>>27723815
it's much better than orange barney with wings
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I heard there was supposed to be a fruit bat with a literal fruit motif, so maybe that's zubats new form?
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>>27723477
>Dragonite and Zubat have the same wings
>Zubat is blue just like Dragonair

BUT WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
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>>27723815

I just think the combination of it's serpentine shape, eyes/face, color scheme, orbs and wings is pretty.
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>>27723851
This, desu.
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>>27723880
I heard you were a huge fucking faggot starting bullshit rumors, so maybe you'll get your (You)s in due time.
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>>27723477
It says that Dragonite and Zubat are arriving in Sun/Moon, and to stay tuned for more.

That sounds like Alolan forms to me. Maybe to be revealed at Worlds?
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>>27724016
Dragonite and sugar aren't under the alooan forms section.
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>>27723851
BLUE SNEK
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>>27723155
Hopefully they'll do later gens in later games
Like possible Sinnoh remakes padding out the Sinnoh dex with "Sinnohan forms" of Gen 2 Pokemon, then the new regions doing Gen 3, etc
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>sexual fresh green


i am content :)
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>>27724049
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>27724049
Alolan dratini and dragonair with split evo/new Pokemon
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>>27723693
gen one psuedo + a dragon

doesnt mean shit if you didn't play in gen one though
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>>27723477
Get Mega Evolution
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>>27724016
>>27724049
This is so random, though, we've seen dozens of non-Alola forms of Gen 1 mons in the SM trailers, why would they list only Zubat and Dragonite? Why only make that section now and out of nowhere?
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I don't care about Barney
Zubats mentioned
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>arora form

wud u liek sum fried lice wit tat?
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>>27723155
I think they finally realized gen 1 had the best designs. Im glad pokemon go is reinvigorating that notion.
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>>27724138
It's in preparation(placeholder) for either Alolan forms, or mega evolution. Zubat could also get Schooling.
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>>27723224
>yfw it's going to be Alolan Golbat but not Crobat to keep it gen 1 only
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>>27724166

Now I want a schooling Alolan Raticate that turns into a rat king
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>>27724154
(you)
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>>27723477
Sauce: https://twitter.com/MetagameMajor/status/763914928252006401
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>>27723224
not on any island im aware of but if they make a fox bat that be pretty cool. Theyre a tropical fruit eating bat species
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Dark/Flying Zubat
calling it now
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>>27723224
I mean owls don't seem very Hawaiian to me
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>>27723155

>Johtomons are gonna stay shitmons for another 3+ years

Too bad they can't all be Azumarril
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Its just means theyre in the game.

No new version.
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>>27723193
Poison really needs some love.
So naturally they'll just make it ghost/flying
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>160812_7
2016, August (8), 12th


All the other Pokemon announced today, and supposedly meant for the 12th befoe the leaks, have the same link.

>160801
Sandshrew and others are from when they were announced

why weren't these bitches announced with the others today
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>>27723477
The Dragonite and Zubat you all know make their appearance in Pokemon Sun and Moon! Just what role will these familiar Pokemon play? Wait and see!
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>>27724187
this is actually going to happen..

>quill me
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>>27723880
adapts to eat the tropical fruit on the islands. i can see this.
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>>27724279
SYNCHRO
Y
N
C
H
R
O
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i googled for some cool zubat redesigns.

what the fudge
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>>27724154
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>>27724279
Both Zubat and Dragonite are going to gain Steel Type.
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>>27724444
Thevsute says pokemon found so far, theyre slowly putting the orgional mods on the site found in alola.
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>>27724444
Quads confirm
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>>27724014
>Worlds in 8 days

I AM SO HYPED
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>>27724417
m-more?
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Dragoniten Pokedex Entries

Sun
A shipwrecked man was rescued and taken to an island paradise filled with only Dragonite.

Moon
It is usually extremely gentle, but if its wrath is evoked, it won't calm down until everything is destroyed.

Dratini
Sun
Grows by shedding. Boots made of its tanned shed-off skin are an extremely high-class item.

Moon
Its existence was confirmed after a certain fisherman caught it after a 10-hour-long fight.

Dragonair
Sun
Its crystal-like jewel is said to hide the power to control the weather.

Moon
Since ancient times, it has been revered by agriculturalists as ruler of the weather.
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>Alolan Zubat family
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>>27724562
>wasn't sure if it existed the whole 10 hours they were battling it
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>>27723477
Dragonite will get a Sun form, Zubat will get a Moon form. They are version exclusives.
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>>27724599
If it was deep in the water, then it probably wasn't visible. Sometimes deep sea fishermen don't know what they have hooked until they drag it close to the surface.

So the guy didn't get it to the surface for 10 hours, pretty crazy to last that long.
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>>27723736
not that anon but CBand Ttar is almost always amazing, as if you can get it in on a resisted hit or a slow U-turn then something is gonna take a huge hit. ScarfTar is good for Pursuit shenanigans, a running a Mega Stone gives Ttar enough bulk to run Dragon Dance.

Sand has great abusers in Garchomp and Drill, but Magic Guard prevents sand damage so you can look into Clefable or Reuniclus too.
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>>27724562
Zubat
Sun
Sleeps in caves during the day. Since it has no eyes, it checks its surroundings with ultrasonic waves as it flies.

Moon
It gets burned if it bathes in sunlight. Its ultrasonic waves vary slightly from herd to herd. [Or whatever the fuck a group of Zubats are called]

Golbat
Sun
Its thick fangs are hollow like a straw, so they are more fragile than you would think. They are specialized to suck blood.

Moon
Sometimes they suck so much blood they can no longer fly and thus fall to the ground where they are preyed upon by other Pokemon.

Crobat
Sun
Its feet have become wings, making it difficult for it to move on land. It can only crawl.

Moon
It flies quickly, yet silently with its four wings. It bites into its prey before it can even be noticed. It will suck your blood in the blink of an eye.
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What if gen 7 retconned all new pokemons and instead each region would get regional versions of the original 151?

That would cater to normies and genwunners while giving the same 7xx numbers of pokemons.

I hope gamefreak never read this post.
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>>27724562
Trainer customization should have Dratini boots.
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>>27723155
A friend of mine brought up the idea that they're making all of the alolan forms so if you have no friends or anyone at all to trade with, you'll have to get the original games to get the non-alolan forms.
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>>27724166
Sweet mother of god
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Guys
What if
they're both
rideable pokemon
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>>27723122
>>27723378
Fuck you, give me my OU Barney.
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>>27723421
>7 type weaknesses
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>>27723736
You don't.

Some Poke's like him you can bait out their counters and then send them in last for wreckage.

For ones with the kinds of weaknesses he has? You just lose, and hope his Sandstorm is enough to let the others take the game.
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>thinking they're getting Alola forms
>when regular versions of both Dragonite and Zubat have already been in trailers
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Sexual fresh green?
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>>27724444
>it's a mecha-godzilla version of dragonite
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>stupid blue snake
>a fucking dragon
I get that /vp/ is full of furries and fags, but I refuse to believe children in the late 90s had such shit taste. Dragonite is one of the few good gen 1 pokemon.
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>>27725296
>thinking GF can't show what they want to show

how retarded can you be anon ? the only proof of zubat not having an alola form was because he had a trainer from alola; dragonite was juste a wild one
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>>27725294
>>27725256
Samefag, fuck off
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>>27724322

>Just what role will these familiar Pokemon play? Wait and see!
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>>27724166

>Zubat could also get Schooling.
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Something seems wrong.
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>based crobat getting a knew form
I'd be keen. I doubt they'll give a pokemon a new form just for it to evolve into an old design.
Also, potential tentacool and geodude forms? That could be pretty nifty.
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>>27725296
>so has exeggutor
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>>27725347
>dragonite was just a wild one
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>>27725446
>game footage is not final
You recognize that mate?
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>>27725419
>sexual fresh green
>not using shiny dragonite
cmon
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>>27725474
Oh, in beta footage wild pokemon must just have random trainers throwing them out.

You fucking retard.
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>>27725474
So how do you know its wild if the footage isn't final?
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>>27725474
Your point? The footage shows it was owned by the trainer. I was just correcting misinformation.
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still no megas tho...
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>>27725419
せいしんりょく (Seishinryoku)
精神力 (Seishin-ryoku): Willpower [EN: Inner Focus]
性新緑 (Sei Shinryoku): Gender Fresh Verdure
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Either they receive Alolan forms and they are just juking us with the Dragonite vs Exeggutor and team Skull Zubat vs Popplio via the trailers, or they're going to introduce what I believe is not fusion, but a partnership system (think Kangaskhan parental bond). I am wary about the latter, but it's much more Pokemon-esque than fusion ever would be, however I am hoping they just get Alolan variants.
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>>27724049
Because their alolan forms haven't been released yet, you giant faget. Kekkles
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>>27725664
That makes me a faggot how?
I mean, I am a faget, but that's not related to my post at all, you colossal shit-sucking, half-aborted fetus.
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>>27723477
Oh my god please please give me an Alola Dragonite that doesn't look retarded like regular Dragonite.
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>>27725658
Dragonite going full Batman?
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>>27723041
fuck yes give me an awesome alolan dragonite bro
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>http://www.pokemon.co.jp/ex/sun_moon/pokemon/
>scroll to the bottom
>"Pokemon that have been found so far"

WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?
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>>27723041
I think they might just be trying to show that they wrote new dex entries for old Pokemon, instead of reusing old ones like they did the last couple generations.
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>>27725822
It means normal pokemon that were in trailers. That's all.
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>>27723681
sauce?
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>>27723693
vore
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>>27725730
I'm really trying to imagine how a partnership between these two, both winged creatures, would work. Fusion seems out of the question. Alolan would seem obvious but this feels like the Sylveon mystery a bit, where the only reason it was ultimately revealed was because it broadcasted something never before seen in Pokemon. Just spit-balling.
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Pokemon has stooped to a new low...What is this nonsense? was someone browsing a creepypasta thread when they designed this?
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For the record...Mudsdale is the only poke that looks half way respectable from sun/moon.
fact.
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>>27725969
THIS.
Someone translate!
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>>27725946
Read the Pokedex sometime shitposter. This was something teased about years ago.
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>>27725987
Thanks for your input
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PLEASE GIVE THE JIGGLYPUFF LINE SOME LOVE I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE

Sakurai's treatment of Jigglypuff in Smash gave me PTSD
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>>27725864
>normal pokemon that were in the trailers
>ledyba
>pichu
>ariados
No.
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>>27726029
Never mind, those names were of released Pokemon. Still strange they have placeholder pictures.
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>>27724599
Confirming its existence is different from people seeing it has existed. Really in the case of animals and plants until there's proper physical proof presented to a scientific community, like one being in the fucking room with you, it's assumed to not exist in the event all other evidence was the result of other animals/plants. So reasonably there had been sightings from random folk and evidence there was a dragon Pokemon running about but nobody had caught it (or nobody had come public with catching it at least).
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>>27725969
Do you have the link?
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This is only disappointing because I really wanted a Mega Dragonite that got a suit of armor and became Dragon/Steel
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I'm guessing both will get a fire typing, I don't know why.
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>>27726121
So a dragon knight
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>>27724154
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Dragonite okay

but we just saw a Team skill member use regular zubat

maybe alola golbat and crobat?
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A blue Dragonair-ish slim ice/dragon Alolan Dragonite would be absolutely awesome. The Dragonite that stayed in the depths of cold lakes like its pre-evos and developed accordingly.

But I doubt GF will do this. They'll come up with something really different like a green grass Dragonite or something.
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>>27726121
There's no confirmation whatsoever that they will receive alolan forms; we only have the in-game footage that shows Dragonite and Zubat completely normal as of now.
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>>27726052
It was useful.
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>>27726055
>treatment of jigglypuff in smash

making her one of the strongest characters in the game gave you PTSD?
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>>27724152
Those stubby arms are creepy. I know the original also has stubby arms, but it looks so much like they got amputated now with those white things.
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>>27726055
I don't even want to think about that again
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>>27723224

Yeah, Rodrigues Fruit Bats live on a small tropical island off of Madagascar and are one of the biggest fucking bats in the world.
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>>27726260
Was the last time you played smash 2006?
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>>27723041
But all I want is a Mega Crobat...
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>>27726308
>playing brawl or 4

LOL
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>>27726330
A simple 'yes' would have sufficed
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>>27726330
>Being a meleefag
4 is fine, please kill yourself.
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>>27726330
>Not liking 4
>Being a Meleefag
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>>27724277
There are alot of Owls on Hawaii
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>>27726330
>>/v/
>>/r/smashbros
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>>27724166
>Schooling Zubat
>Becomes General RAAM
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>>27724152
Fuck this cutsey shit
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FUCK ALOLAN FORMS

FUCK OFF

ALOLA CROBAT AND DRAGONITE? FUCK THAT SHIT

MEGA. I'VE BEEN WAITING, AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT FUCKING BULLSHIT ONE REGION FORMES WILL STOP A MEGA CROBAT AND DRAGONITE HAPPENING?

FUCK GEN 7
FUCK ALOLA
FUCK ALOLAN FORMS
FUCK GAMEFREAK
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>>27726121
The other pseudos already have a mega, that can only mean Dragonite will have the most badass mega ever, his mega will be so mega every other mega will look like a preevolution in comparison, Mega-Dragonite will be so fat and big he will feed on other Megas.
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>>27726530
>he likes megas
you poor little thing
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>>27726530
>>27726549
Nah Megas are/were a mess competitively and visually with little concept behind them, if any at all. Alolan variety is the perfected version of what Megas should have been all along.
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>>27726560
most of these alolans are terrible. why not just make them unique pokemon instead?

a lot of megas were iffy, but some of them actually added some strategy (gyarados and the choice of when to mega for example)
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>>27723224
Anything that flies is much more likely to make it to a volcanic island than something landbound. Hoary bats and a species monk seal are the only extant mammals native to Hawaii.
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>yfw Alola dnite looks even less like Dragonair than regular dnite does
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you niggas are stupid as fuck if you think megas will be retconned out of existence/stop happening
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>>27725540
I could see that.
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>>27726590
>Alolan forms are terrible
>Megas aren't sloppy-looking design-wise and competitive-wise a complete mess
Alolan variants have concepts behind them, at most they're harmless recolors, unlike mega forms which are just artificial evolutions meant solely for combat, rather than explained by way of environmental pressures. I personally am done trying to rationalize that megas looks good, or improve competitive. It requires mental gymnastics.
>strategy
Mega Kangaskhan dominates the scene right now. Do you call that strategy? What says Alolan variants won't require them, in addition to looking good?
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>>27726530
>wanting more psuedo megas
Why?
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>>27726609
Calm down Satan.
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>>27726530
you need to calm down man. still 3 months away from release.
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>>27726692
It doesn't make sense that vulpix decides to life in a snowy mountain and magically becomes an ice-type, it's as stupid as believing a fish will grow feet and breathe air if you throw it on land.
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>>27726692
>Megas aren't sloppy-looking design-wise and competitive-wise a complete mess
>implying Alolan forms aren't lazy as fuck design

The issue with the Alolan forms are not just that they're more genwun pandering, but that they're so far restricted to only Alola. No other pokemon regions have alternate forms for older pokemon?

And I know they could've just done this with new ones to highlight the whole alt evo thing, since they have the 4 birds in this gen. They've had other pokemon before have different color depending on where you caught them too, but they didnt just retype and reskin a bunch of older pokemon

Also I said SOME megas add strategy, like again, Gyarados.

Alolan forms probably wont be viable.
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>>27726768
What is genetic adaptability?
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>>27726530
you mad as fuck, but i agree with you

>>27726552
>>27726560
absolutely shit taste
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>>27726609
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>>27726803
Bullshit invented by a pagan.

I would like a water-type Lugia, he lives underwater.
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>>27726803
Stop using T faggot.
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>>27726845
Lol. You are anti-science.

>>27726847

Make me nigger.
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>>27723155

They could be doing this because it's the 20th Anniversary and as such the original 151 Pokemon are going hold a place of honor.

The thing about Kanto possibly makes sense as well, though I'd think Johto would also be on the table considering that it's connected to Kanto and there is part of one island that looks similar to Ecruteak.

>>27723693

It's design is sort of elegant and cute.

Really I could get behind it simply because it'd make an odd sort of sense. Has always felt like there is a radical difference between Dratini, Dragonair, and Dragonite. Unless it's supposed to represent some kind of legend or folktale.
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>>27723155
Could be cool if it only turns out, that there are only gen 1 and 5 for Alolan forms
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>>27726882
Who the fuck are you, pretending to be me?
>>27726847
You're the faggot.
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>>27726768
It's Pokemon, where artificial objects are alive and swords possessed by spirits have genders and can reproduce. Explaining how a fire type could deal with new environmental pressures that force it to develop into an ice type is an issue to you? I imagine you haven't played Pokemon for very long.
Megas are absent concepts design-wise, and the evolutions are for competitive purposes only, so they end up looking over-designed and sloppy. So they end up hit-or-miss, visually, to a much greater extent than most Pokemon.

>>27726782
>no other regions from the past have this entirely new concept which was invented to affect competitive?
It's a new concept for competitive and to touch up old Pokemon for variety. It's like complaining that Clefairy was Normal for 5 generations and just NOW in Kalos it's Fairy??? Just save the pearl-clutching for proof that they won't continue this concept, or even retcon into later remakes of older games.

>some megas add strategy
Big whoop. Most megas don't. It's a mess. Cherry-picking doesn't really affect that fact.
>Alolan forms probably won't be viable
Citation needed.

I don't much care for them competitively as I do that Gamefreak is adding some variety. Practically customization.

>>27726804
absolutely shit taste
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>>27726995
A type retcon isn't the same as having new forms of old pokemon in one specific place. Also it would have been WORSE if clefairy would have remained normal after introducing fairy. Also there's been precedent for type retcons (gen 1 -> gen 2)

>Big whoop. Most megas don't. It's a mess. Cherry-picking doesn't really affect that fact.
Someone's butthurt. The small megas that do att strategy are worth it. And alot of the pokemon that got megas were either already viable (salamence/metagross) and just win-more, or weren't going to be very viable anyway (mawile). The only mistake is making too many megas at once and also giving them to too many strong pokemon. Some pokemon desperately need a mega, like flygon.

variety? I'd rather have more new pokemon than cheap rehashes. That way they can be their own thing instead of mere pandering
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>>27726530
lol
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>>27727130
>THIS retcon is fine but THAT makes no sense and bothers me
In fact, the Alolan variants make sense. Islands tend to force specific new mutations out of animals in real life, due to new "pressures" and or lack there of. But a Pokemon suddenly becoming a new type? Easy to explain one, difficult to make sense of the other.

>Projecting this hard
Megas basically unanimously are disliked by competitive players. They don't look good either, in general. Someone's butthurt all right. I'm talking to him. He's clutching his pearls over non-essential things.

We're getting new Pokemon, AND rehashes. Subtracting Megas from the game is a positive to me, so there is nothing really wrong with this, as much as I would also enjoy more developed mutations.

>pandering
You want genwun Pokemon out of the game, I get it. I want megas out. I just hope they pander to me, not you. To use your own stock-box buzzword back at you, are you butthurt over that?
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>>27727345
One of these retcons has precedence, and it's easily justifiable to say that they classified Clefairy as normal because they didn't know about Fairy-type until recently. Something like Alolan forms is completely new, and again, lazy genwun recolors with different types.

>Megas basically unanimously are disliked by competitive players. They don't look good either, in general. Someone's butthurt all right. I'm talking to him. He's clutching his pearls over non-essential things.

Newsflash- not all features are made for competitive. The flashy megas are most likely for casuals. And yea, you sound butthurt

>We're getting new Pokemon, AND rehashes. Subtracting Megas from the game is a positive to me, so there is nothing really wrong with this, as much as I would also enjoy more developed mutations.

Not enough new pokemon. And you're delusional if you think megas are going to disappear. all the old megas will remain. All the energy making these Alola forms could've went into making unique pokemon, like a cool grass/dragon instead of a palm tree with a long neck.

> I just hope they pander to me, not you
I don't even like megas that much. A lot of them look goofy and as much as Gyarados having water/dark as a mega helps in shenanigans, they ruined his chance at being a dragon. But the biggest issue with Alola forms is just the new gimmick of this gen, like megas was for last gen. If you need to add new gimmicks each gen, it's going to get crowded. all that wasted effort on megas, then on Alolas, then on new gimmick for gen 8, etc. And Alola is intristically tied to Alola, at least megas can be used anywhere since it's not restricted to Kalos.
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>>27727345
I agree with the competitive players hate megas. They corner people into building team around them instead of doing anything original.
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>>27723155
they replaced megas after all
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>>27723041
>2.2m
they really nerfed poke sizes

I remember when dragonite was monster sized, the next godzilla
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>>27726782
>so far only restricted to Alola
>so far
Exactly. Alola forms were literally just introduced. They're probably going to be in future installments and retconned into future remakes, as it seems like more of a mainstay than mega-evolution. We'll probably see Kanto, Johto, Sinnoh (etc.) forms as well, although it might just be an instance of Pokemon adapting oddly on Alola since its hinted to be as isolated as the island state it's based on. Weird things tend to happen to animals (uh, Pokemon) on distant, isolated islands.
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>>27726552

Spoken like someone whose bro wasn't literally salvaged from the bottom of the bottom by Megas.
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>>27726782

Don't worry, they'll add a whole bunch of new Sinnoh Form Pokemon for the Diamond and Pearl remakes.
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>>27727661
That was just one episode. Same as the giant Tentacruel.
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If they aren't Megas I'll be mad, considering the other Pseudos got Megas, and there's only one other poison type mega.
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>>27725927
They become wing men
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>>27724016
Is Google jumping on the Lil Fella meme???
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcjFVTI4_Gw
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>>27728049
You Fukin know it, m8
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Pretty interesting. I'm guessing Dragonite is gonna lose its flying typing, and become a more grounded pokemon.
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>>27723041
A Team Skull grunt used a regular zubat in the trailer. Wouldn't he have an Alola Zubat? Doesn't add up.
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>>27728311
I think it will become a sea Pokemon.
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Dragonite becomes even more Barney-like and with Dragon/Fairy typing.
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>>27728511
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>>27723193

Crobat in my team yet again. I hope he gets a good typing.
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>>27723041
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>>27723815
It you don't see where people are coming from with this elegant thing then I don't know how to help you
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>>27728877
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>>27723193
>No one brings up the Hawaiian Hoary Bat that literally has static built up in it's mane of fur so it can shock and eat insects while flying in the night.
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Water dragon because it staying living near a waterbody and rock flying from all the minerals in the rocks they live
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>>27729057
Or poison fire with levitate from going to live in volcanic underground caves
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>>27728877
I like this. It always bothered me that the evolution to Dragonite completely changed the chain's design motif.
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>>27728668
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>if something lives in the water it has to be a water type

This belief needs to stop.
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>>27723477
My best guess
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If Dragonite gets an Alolan forme instead of a Mega it'll be a huge waste. Multiscale combined with a post-Mega Ability and Extreme Speed would be deadly.
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>>27724245
>Alolan zubat
>grass flying
>sap sipper or something
>stab giga drain
>Special Crobat even more powerful
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>>27725664
If it says they have been discovered, why would they be getting Alolan formes?
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>>27723880
you have to go back.
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>>27723609
Onix ain't exactly the most popular 'mon. They're probably just getting the most popular ones (Raichu, meowth) and the ones with the bigger changes (Marowak, Exeggutor) out first.
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>>27723851
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>>27729998
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>>27730169
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>>27728877
Flawless. And nice dub dubs.
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>>27723122
Please THIS
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>>27724283
>shitmon
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>>27731033
>Cool green mantis
>turns into a red lobster
JUST
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>>27724283
Luckily Best Bird is useful
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Dragonite will be in the first batch of synchro evos

Why be vague about it when an alola form is so obvious?
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>>27731056
>turns into a fucking BULLET ANT
>better pokemon in just about every way
i don't think you know what a shitmon is, pedro.
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>>27731230
>wings
>claws
>BULLET ANT
Go back to school, beaner
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So if dragonite gets a new form will there still be another pseudo?
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I dont get it. Just whats the point of showing those two mons? Its kinda obvious that Zubat will be available in a Pokemon game.

Also Scizor should be a separate species since it looks nothing like Scyther imo
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Hope for Alola forms
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>>27731267
>ants can't have wings
>lobsters do
it is you who is from south america
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The genwun pandering is through the roof
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>>27724417
>>27724553
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>>27723450
Basicaly Mythic Pokemon,like Mew and Celebi
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I don't think they are gonna give any Pokemon that has a mega an Alola form

And only gen 1 Pokemon are allowed

It narrows the field down dramatically
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>>27723609
What type would Crystal Onix be?
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>>27731791
Pure Steel or pure Rock.

Doesn't need to be made of metal to be Steel typed. See Alolan Sandshrew and Sandslash.
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If this DOES end up being something new, synchro forms, partner gimmicks, whatever, then this will make for a lot of new things packed into one game. I am okay with that.
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>>27727721
Alola isn;t going to be a mainstay in the pokemon world unless it becomes part of a remake. If they put Alola forms outside of Alola its going to be jarring as fuck.

>Weird things tend to happen to animals (uh, Pokemon) on distant, isolated islands.
They didnt need to be rehashed pokemon to make this point. It;s lazy pandering.

>>27727769
>more remakes
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>>27731865
Steel would make sense since Crystal Onix didn't mind water.
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>>27731869
>If they put Alola forms outside of Alola its going to be jarring as fuck.
Safari Zone
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>>27723041
>mfw they retcon that giant dragonite from bill's episode into >>27728877
>mfw that explains why it was shadowed out.
My body is reggie
Also, alola farfetch'd when?
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>>27731876
>not jarring as fuck
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>>27731880
>place where exotic pokemon are catchable is filled with exotic pokemon
Wow, you're right. This makes no sense at all.
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>>27731900
>exotic pokemon that can be found in other places
>vs pokemon that literally exist in one region only
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>>27724154
>I think they finally realized gen 1 had the best designs.

This just proves that gen 1 has the worst designs though. They're so bad that they need to redesign them
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>>27729039
Electric/Flying Zubat?

I'm down with that.
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>>27723041
All I just want is an Alolan Oddish line.
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>>27729039
Literally my mom's Zapdos.
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So when can we expect this? Don't tell me it's next week.
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>>27732042
Expect what? We don't even know what this means, if it means anything at all.
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>>27732073
It has to mean something, Why give slots to two random older pokemon for no reason?
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If this does mean Aloha Dragonite and Zubat line( i doubt it is) this is a dumb place to showcase them.

Worlds this year is only open to people competing and their families.
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>>27728877
I Like this but im hoping it keeps the snake like design from the 2 pre-evos.
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Dragonite doesn't evolve so there's no Alola Dragonite
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>>27732160
No idea.

Lets see what we have to work with. Doesn't look like it'll be Alolan forms. Could be megas, but then they would have put Crobat instead of Zubat?

It might be that they're just getting around to putting other pokemon that are in the game as usual on the website, but that also seems like an odd thing to do.

So, hopefully it means something new. Synchro and partner pokemon have been mentioned earlier in the thread as possibilities.
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>>27731873
>>27731865
Steel is actually perfect, as it was weak to Charmeleon's attacks.
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>>27726330
Oh you are one of those meleefags that ruin everyone's fun all the time
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>>27723815
Not even that the design is amazing but it had so much potential. A blue, lithe dragon with feathery white wings and white horns. And they dropped the blue, the orbs, the horns, the white feathery "wings" literally all of it. Dragonite looks nothing like its prevos.
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>>27732187
What?
The only pokemon to evolve that got an alolan form is mewoth the rest have been fully evolved.
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>>27731641
>has 2 big ass claws
>i-it's an ant I swear
You must be from Africa then, nigger
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>>27725340
>elegant sea serpent
>a stupid fat cartoony barneydragon
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>>27732230
This pic reveals regular Dragonite

Therefore there is no Alola Dragonite
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>>27723240
Blissey, Skarmory, Scizor, and Tyranitar say hi.
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>>27724166
>Zubat could also get Schooling.
Fuck you anon now I want this so much but it's not going to happen
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>>27732284
Even Quagsire has his moments these days.
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>>27725231
>Riding a zubat

Oh damn zubats are bigger than I thought, they're almost 3 foot.
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>>27723215

Exeggutor is from Alola though
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>>27732300
>>27732284
And Azumarill
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>>27728877

Nice, but kinda dull. Maybe give it the horn on it's head that Dragonair has?
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>>27731873
>>27732221
STEEL/WATER TYPE STEELIX FUCKING WHEN.
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>>27724323
>>27724187
Golbat was seen, Plumeria was using one.
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>>27732384
Maybe Alolan Crobat then. But then why would they put it up at the same time as Dragonite? It must be something else.
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>>27732380
>Sheer Force Life Orb Iron Head and Waterfall with huge defenses and all those resists
I NEED IT
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>Inb4 "Dragonite let's do the old you know what."
>"What?"
>"GATTAI DA!"
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>>27732428
>pichu used thundershock
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>>27732464
>things have weaknesses

oh no
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>>27725619
so mega gallade is also sexual fresh green
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>>27732464
>All those defenses
>A pichu thundershock doing fucking anything
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Guys it's a week before Worlds, I think they did a similar thing before revealing Mega-Blaziken. So it's probably Mega-Crobat and Dragonite and here's why:

1. They already revealed the "gimmicks" of Sun and Moon for the most part, what else would there to be show at Worlds when honestly we'd just shrug and say cool at this point if it's another Alolan Form or showing off new Z-moves . If they really want us by the balls, 100% to get the game not realizing the horrofic monsters those Megas would be for the Meta (honestly they probably wouldn't lol) they showcase them at Worlds.
2. Isn't it kinda weird its JUST Crobat and Dragonite? They're special but why not Metagross...or Salamence...or Milotic...or Flygon or even Lapras as these "Returning Pokemon." On that note why these 2 and not Flygon/Milotic/Lapras/Johto Starters is because if I am right it would be them tipping their hand too much.
3. On that note of Special it would work well, they don't have as much spotlight on them as those others have had, they could make for great Mega Canindates (you know over hyped to become over-broken :P) and played crucial parts in Gold/Silver. (One represents your growth as a Trainer the other the then new game mechanic of Happiness.) If GS -> SM it works, plus it makes sense cause a lot of people loved 3rd and 5th gen and their just doing it in reverse for 6th and 7th gen.
4: Megas aren't a thing yet in 7th gen, and we saw how HYPED people were for them at Worlds 13. Yes some Megas are/seem broken, but a lot of the same disgruntled VGC players spearheading their retirement also have noticed how balanced overall GF's making Sun and Moon. So you could guess Megas can comeback and be not as broken as once before.
5. Like said the timing hints at them being important, and usually the Main Branch ALWAYS spoils its Japanese Fans than anyone else so why not give them the direct-but-indirect headsup?
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>>27732640
Why Zubat and not Crobat on the site though?
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>>27724198
Gonna take a stab in the dark and say both regular and Alolan Zubat will be in the game. Probably the same case for the Dratini line too.
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>>27723155
It's because they need to make new forms for all the Generation 1 Pokemon, otherwise how will the next Red/Green/Blue remakes be able to have a large selection of Pokemon in the roster WITHOUT adding any filthy non-nostalgia pandering Pokemon?
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>>27732796
I wonder how they'd explain that. Maybe it'll be like Shellos and you catch different variants in different areas.
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>>27732284
skarmory is gen 3 scrub
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>>27733033
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>>27723155
If they do EVERY genwun Pokemon then I'm fine with it. It makes sense to focus with one gen at a time.

What if we get Sinnoh forms for Gen 2 Pokemon in the DP remakes?
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>>27733033
>Gen 3

uhh


UHHHHHH

it's gen 2, anon
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hey guys it's me, real T

>>27726882
>>27726947
stop it right there-o
>>27726847
hey, hold your piazza pal
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>>27732770
Because only Dragonite gets an Alolan form (not Dragonair), but the whole Zubat line gets the forms.
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>>27732809
Well, there are multiple islands with different environments, which is how we have four different Oricorios.
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>>27733714
Honestly we dont know what could happen.
We dont know if there's an alolan persian or even an alolan cubone. so could be either way.
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>>27733935
Not expecting an Alolan Cubone, but an not having an Alolan Persian would be very strange.
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>>27733935
What kind of worthless empty statement is that? Of course we don't know exactly what will happen. I'm giving a potential explanation why there is Dragonite and Zubat on the site.
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If the theme is form changes for this region, then maybe theyre getting gender differences? Fits Darwinism stuff.
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They're saving Gen 2 and beyond for the next 7th gen game, goddamnit.
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