Serious question so I'd like serious answers. Is there

>>27707021
The chance of these being fake has become significantly lower since the girl sitting next to Heelcat was officially revealed as Mallow.

If you hate them so much, your best case scenario is that there are multiple final-evolution options.

>>27707021
You're being dramatic

>>27707140
Well yes. I mean they're taking risks and I love that, most of the designs were great. I loved all three starters but their final evos dont make any sense.

I'll buy (and probably enjoy) the game as soon as it comes out, but they dun goofd the starters potential.

>>27707021
But Robinhoot is the best one among them.

>>27707178
Truth. Hopefully that rumor about the starters being able to change their secondary type is true, so he can lose that awful double weakness to ice.

There's a small change that these were early concept art.

>>27707168
>I loved all three starters but their final evos dont make any sense.
Why? That's a fucking retarded thing to say.

>>27707083
>Officially revealed as Mallow
That never happened. That girl is definitively not Mallow.

>>27707260
Refute.

>>27707021
>Is there a chance that these are not real
Only if someone on Gamefreak added a sketch of Mallow on some fakemons to deliberately mess with us.

Otherwise, ther're legit.

>>27707021
>Is there a chance that these are not real
Only if someone on Gamefreak added a sketch of Mallow on some fakemons and released them to the internet to deliberately mess with us.

Otherwise, ther're pretty much confirmed.

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>>27707260
Denial....

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I'm pretty much with the same opinion as you, sand castle and all, although I don't mind him existing since you can either ignore it or catch it and that Pikachu being swallowed whole by one was amusing.

I'm... just not feeling these at all. Maybe the owl? I can at least give him a chance. But at the same time, I'm just meh. I'm trying my best to be open-minded, but there's something really off about them at the same time.

I dunno, it's this weird feeling I have. Like they have more in their designs than they should or doesn't feel like something Game Freak would do. Maybe I'm just being too judgmental. I don't even have anything against the concepts, it's the designs themselves that feel rather odd. Then again, this whole generation feels quite different.

But heck, I guess they're pretty much confirmed at this point? So it's not like I can do anything about it. It seems pretty hard to dodge the bullet at this point unless these happen to be some sort of rejected pitch. But that's still grasping at straws here, I'm aware of that.

I'm disappointed if these are real, because I love all three starters, but hate these potential final evos for them. It's almost like GF made these in an attempt to capture that same success Greninja had.

In any case, I nuzlocke, so starter deaths have happened. And there's plenty of Alolan Pokemon to take over as starter replacement.

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Most of you flipping tables over these final evolution starter designs will get over them or even grow to like them in a month or two after the games come out. Guranteed. Just wait until to you seem them in game and they do their thing.

>>27707402
True...the official artwork this gen hasn't really given much justice to the actual in-game models, which have been excellent quality.

>>27707402
Remember how many people hated greninja when it leaked. Flat out denied it was real because "there's no way they'd ever make something so shit".

Good times.

>>27707331
same. I'm waiting for the second evolutions to get released so the "why does this look so off" thing to be resolved.

I think it has 60% of chance from being true... But I really like them. The worst starters are from Unova.

>>27707021
El Tigre and Robinhoot need to be in Pokken.

>>27707596

If I remember correctly, first time I was subjected to that Greninja screenshot, I didn't even doubt it that much. I think I mostly thought about it as a strange, but unique approach as a final evolution, but then noticed how professional the model looked. It's usually very hard to make something like that appear legit, considering there's so many ways you can goof. But the model seemed pretty clean, symmetrical and accurately drawn (as in, no anatomical errors despite the body of the subject) which made me believe it more.

What are you saying about Rowlet? That nigga has a BOWtie... a BOW!! He is always meant to be an archer, even his dex entry makes it sound that way! He is a straight up thug by night and Mr.StealYoGirl by day.

>>27707331
>Like they have more in their designs than they should or doesn't feel like something Game Freak would do.

Someone needs to post those collages that compared these to popular fake starters.

>>27707402
I still hate the gen 5 starters, and I still never use them. They get boxed as soon as I catch that dog mon in the first route.

I agree with some of the others here. Like the first forms, hate these ones.

We have yet to see the middle stages so you can't sit here and say that the final evolution's don't make sense

You are jumping from base form to final form and in case yeah it would look a little weird

Middle forms are there for a reason and will connect the entire line together

>>27707933
exactly

Take Combusken away and look at the jump between Torchic and Blaziken. I think the fact that they look so different actually increases the likelihood that they are real.

What if El Tigre's signature move is Burning Hammer?

>>27707021
Im not getting the game if these are real so i hope they aren't real.

>>27707979
Both look like birds, so I'd argue Blaziken is a logical final evo for Torchic, considering the long legs.

A better example would probably be Dewott to Samurott for some people.

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>>27707559
i didn't like big wishiwashi till i saw it in game
and fan art will do them a lot more justice

>>27708122
>not buying the game over three Pokemon

Nice knee jerk reaction. See you in November.

>>27707608
yeah that is true, maybe they'll make more sense, but I think I'll still hate them.

>>27707402
maybe popplio, only thing I dont really like about the final evo design is that it looks really feminine. If I manage to have a female popplio I'll probably keep it.

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>>27708122
>Im not getting the game if these are real so i hope they aren't real.

>>27708148
probably because blazikens lines to infused in your mind,its been out for 10 years plus.
If you never saw that line now
And only saw torchic and Blaziken you'd find little to no similarities

>>27708122
Say goodbye friendo

>>27707021
The three are way better than the last 2 generations of starters. Rowlet's final evo is specially good in my opinion, and hopefully the second stage ties the line together neatly. Popplio's third stage is not bad, and I'm glad it went from something kinda goofy to a more elegant Pokemon.

I hope Litten's final evo is Fire/Fighting just to spite Firefags that shat on Popplio when the starters were revealed.

>>27708210
Good point.

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>>27708210
Yeah this blaziken is a ridiculous leap from Torchic

>>27708260
Well there's nothing wrong with having different opinions, but I think that Serperior and Greninja were great.

Even Chesnaught looks less ridiculous than final Litten imho.

>>27708246
I already have. Im just here to see other people enjoying it.

>>27708322
Oh yeah, I won't argue that Serperior and Greninja are actually great designs. I'm just saying that collectively they feel better than the starters from gen 5 and 6.

>>27708122
Don't worry, I'm sure your mother will buy it for you if you do your chores

>>27708395
Fuck man i dont know if i have enough GBP.

>>27707021
The chances of these being fake is pretty slim now since Mallow is in the pic with Litten, and more Pokemon getting confirmed from the Chinese leak.

>>27708260
Agreed, mostly. Except for the last part. Stay mad.

>>27707021
In my opinion, thier indeed obviously ideas by Gamefreak. How else would you explain Mallow being there?

But there's a high possibility their the final stages because of the Chinese leaks becoming more and more credible because of recent confirmation of other mons predicted. Which also said the starter evos were going to be an archer, wrestler, and siren. Which these are obviously are.

Also this is similar to the anime reference sheets.

But I'm dismissing the possibility of these being beta art. But I'm at least 90% sure that these are what we're getting. Just as long as the middle stages line up.

Do people really think Litten's and Rowlet's changes are drastic? They look similar to the base forms and even keep themes related to their first form (projectiles and emotions).

>>27708270
And combusken

>>27707021
Yeah, they're about 99% Real at this point.

For one Mallow is sitting next to Litten and these came out 2 months before anyone knew what mallow looked like. Anybody saying it isn't her is in denial or has serious issues because everything is the same.

And Secondly the Chinese Leak Said the final evolutions where going to be a wrestler, siren and archer, Which these 3 are.
This Leak has gotten everything right from Salandit's typing, The Trails, No Gyms, Totem pokemon,
and It got the Sea cucumber and Mushroom pokemon which just came out this week.
The only things left on the Chinese leak is a Snowman, Rugby Monkey pokemon and rockruffs evolution being a werewolf.

I didnt get bw or xy because the starters sucked anyway. Its a shame these starters did the exact same thing wrong. I was hype for this game.

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>>27708646

>>27708646
what a faggot

>>27708887
Whats the point of buying a game if its just going to make you disapointed?

>>27709092
If the starter Pokemon not impressing you is the entire reason for skipping those games, you're most likely retarded.

you asked a dumb question so have a dumb answer

I dunno

>>27709092
If not liking three pokemon, only one of which you'd be given and that you could immediately box is such a disappointment that its enough to make you give up the games, you are incredibly fragile

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>>27707021
take your advice

>IF
>IF
>IF
Nope.

The best case scenario for you shit tasters is the HIGHLY UNLIKELY scenario that theyv've had minor touches since this art.

But this is anime art, the anime is already in production and this was made to introduce investors to the future of the anime.

They're likely 100% final.

>Sea lions and seals
>Having that thin of a neck

I could easily break that thing's neck, but I won't because that would be giving too much of a shit about it and because it's not possible. Regardless, no matter how cartoony these designs are supposed to be, she's really far from looking like a actual sea lion or seal and more like a siren.

>>27709934
Yes, that is the point

>>27709934
>muh realism

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>>27709934
>Sirene
>Looks like a Siren

>>27710310


I feel like I'm looking at something indecent here.

>>27710003
But sirens are always female, correct me if I'm wrong? At least with mermaids, there are such things as merman.

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>>27710310

>>27710386
Doesn't stop them from having male members of their fiction species inspired by them.

>>27709749
>someone doesnt like three virtual creatures
>he must be a shit taster

>>27710555

Why are you so offended?

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>>27707021
>except the sandcastle
I wish I could kill you faggot. That shit is awesome.

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Best final evo ever for starter?

>>27709092
I bet you skipped XY because Pikachu has the anime cry as well.

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>>27707021
They're 100% fucking real.

How much more evidence do you need?

>>27712559
I personally think so but we are a minority

imo
7 > 3 > 4 > 6 > 5 > 1 > 2

>>27712595

The funny thing about this GIF is that she's as flat as a table and people felt it was necessary to give her breasts in order for it to work.

>>27712637
Like, no wires furry poke rape thoughts intended, this is seriously the "prettiest" Pokemon ever, I'm my opinion. Might ever be prettier than.. Gardevoir.

>>27712729
A real siren would have a great pair of tits though. This game is E for everyone.

>>27712847
Would it? Is that what EVERY man goes for? Wouldnt sirens be are diverse as what men are attracted to?

>>27710386
>Starters might have split final evo

>Mfw male/female water starter evolve differently

>Mfw ever more this is the MALE

>Mfw I have no face

>>27712882
When your lower body is a fish, you need something going on up there.

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>>27707260
I fucking hate Litten3, but I can admit that this leak p much confirmed. You're in denial.

>>27712785
Kill yourself.

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Sure there's a possibility but it's super super low. Just accept them senpai. I hated pic related but learned to like it.

>>27707021

Sorry OP, between the Mallow thing and the chinese leaks saying the final evos of the starters were archer, wrestler, siren, it seems you're shit out of luck.

>>27707402
I still loathe Emboar. I am still disappointed with Delphox.
I will probably never like Litten3. I just so desperately want a cute quadruped starter to REMAIN QUADRUPED when it evolves. pls is it too much to ask?

>>27710310
Now he just looks completely naked, which makes it definitely worse.

>>27712785
love it

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>>27710310
...Is it supposed to look nude now? Because it looks nude.

>>27712990
Never, barafag.

>>27708626
And given the fact Rockruff's flavour text talks about it howling at the moon it evolving into a werewolf is pretty much a given

>>27713123

I feel like rockruff is going to evolve into this gen's furbait.

The poor guy doesn't deserve that

>>27710310
I'm not even a furry and all I see is >>27710418 and I love it

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>>27712729
This happens to a lot of Pokemon anon.

>>27713152
>this gen's furbait
>when lucha and mermaid already exist
He's just going to have company.

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Considering that newer starters evolve into Pokemon that look very different, I would say that these designs are totally plausible.

The Chinese leaks, which have proven to be the most accurate and consistent, stated that the final evolutions are an archer, wrestler, and siren. These same leaks do not mention split evolutions or alternate forms.

Also, the girl in Litten's reference sheet was unable to be identified until the official announcement of Mallow. This, plus the reliability of the leaks, pretty much confirms these starters to be real.

Now, some might say that those reference sheets may have been scrapped, rejected, or revised. However, Mallow, Ash, and Pikachu all make appearances on those sheets. I wager these sheets are meant to help animators for the show, which means the show is already in production and these starters have been finalized.

I doubt such detailed reference sheets would be made for pokemon designs that were still awaiting approval. Usually a design is decided on first, then a reference sheet is made to help the animators. They decide on a design first, a design that all animators have to follow so that the character looks consistent throughout the show. Now they must implement the same design in the show. The character's expressions, posture, interaction with other characters, and other kinds of details are taken into account.

Personally, I like these designs very much. They're clever, unique, and really fun. A Robin Hood Rowlet, Tiger Mask Litten, and mermaid Popplio are all so refreshing and exciting.

>>27713049
This so much amigo mio.

>>27713029
Yeah that one is kinda nice, if I manage to get a female popplio I'll stick with it. Bad thing is this gen has a few cool water type mons.

>>27713847
>this

>>27713847
Fucking Chesnaught and Delphox still look like shit.

>>27713884
>Bad thing is this gen has a few cool water type mons.
The water types have all been good in my opinion. Wishiwashi especially, if I wasn't picking Popplio I'd get that dude on my team ASAP.

>>27712986
This. All we can do is hope the multiple evo thing is real, but I'd say that Mallow confirmed this. I actually like Robinroot, but Beltigre missed potential, and Sirene is a little to feminine for a pokemon with the standard starter male/female ratio.

>>27713982
Braixen made it already clear enough that they don't give a shit about the ratio in their design choices. It's only there to make breeding harder anyway.

>>27707083
There aren't split evos.
Pikipek or w/e it's name is is 10 on the pokedex

Well I, on the other hand, fully support having Poppliomaid in my life. A little sad it wasn't Ballio, but the stating evolutionsare fine, OP. Accept them.

>>27707021
>Not confirmed

>>27714893
kek

I just don't like them. I'm definitely going to play, and hopefully enjoy the games, (both) but if there aren't actually split starters (which I'm hoping for, but not expecting at all) then I'm releasing my starter the first chance I have. I do like the base level for all three starters, so I guess I could box them.

>>27707021
>Not dropping your Unova starter
Literally the only reason to take any of them is because Samurott is a decent HM slave.

>>27715327
I love smug pokemon, so I stayed with my Snivy.

>>27707402
I love people who say shit like this based on absolutely nothing. The same people said the same bullshit about the gen V starters and they're still by far the most hated group who I have no love for.

>>27707021
if these are real then I'll be banking my starter asap, I already didn't like their first evos and I was hoping their final evos would make me like at least one of them but these are all shit

>>27713847
you know I am kinda biased about popplio3, its really nice but somehow not that good (hairband and pearls are shit tbqh).

But I´ve got a serious question: Why are they still online and Pokejungle didn´t took it down? Everyone, who leaked something about Gen 5 and 6 literally got fucked over. So they are real, Mallow confirmed it, so why are they still online?

oh btw. I think these video leaks are nothing compared to "leaking the final evos"

>>27715423
I'll hang on to that

>>27713847
petition to remove gen 5 starters and chesnaught from existence

>>27709092
If the starters are that important to me, they're close to that important for me, then I see why that'd be the route for you.

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>>27707021
I literally won't stop laughing when these are confirmed real.

>>27709749
These things are fucking horrendous. Your taste is shit, even if you're getting your way.

>>27712559
One of, if not the worst.

>>27715423

Thank you, someone with common sense. I've been wondering the very same since quite some time now.

Unless Game Freak just decided to confirm those leaks with the mention of Mallow and wait until the inevitable day these might end up being confirmed, it's crazy how absolutely no one who hosted such images never said anything about Nintendo or Game Freak addressing them over such issues, despite the unavoidable question of them being confirmed when doing so. Poke Jungle never took off the original images off its site, even after all this time.

When something usually leaks, Game Freak makes the effort of posting what was leaked MUCH before its intended release. That's something that's been happening quite a lot as of lately. So, assuming the concept art is real and Game Freak was aware of it and its content, this brings the next question.

Were Game Freak trying to confirm the final starters to the public by posting such informations involved with these leaks (the mushroom, the sea cucumber, Mallow and what not)? But if they were, why not just show the final starters themselves? People already know about them, why hold off to that information longer? Was it merely to not spoil everything to those who weren't aware?

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>>27715266
>I'm releasing my starter the first chance I have

>He doesn't know

>>27715898
not the same person, but doesn't know what?

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>>27715935
We had two "new" credible leaks yesterday, one from a Chinese poster that posts cryptic images related to unrevealed Pokemon and another poster from a forum (or was it reddit) that said Rockruff's evolution was based on the starter you choose.

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>>27715565

No need to be such a sore loser.

>>27715595

gr8 b8.

>>27707331
>doesn't feel like something gamefreak would do

>Siren Dog is literally girl Samurott
>Wrestle Cat is literally thin Emboar
>Hood Bird is the edgy one like Serperior/Greninja

>>27715565
>people getting Pokemon designs they like
>meanwhile, all you can literally do is cry online and say "W-Well you have shit taste for liking these!"
>implying your opinion matters

>>27716469
>Implying my opinion doesn't matter
>Implying your opinion matters
My opinion matters
>>27716390
Not bait; truth.

>>27716655

So you just want (You)s. Gotcha.

>>27714397
>making breeding harder

Still not sure why they do this anymore. We are getting a feature that literally makes breeding pointless save egg moves. On top of that in XY you could catch those starters in the Friend Safari. May as well start the 50/50 trend in this gen for the hell of it.

>>27716036
Choose, not keep.

>>27707178
This. When the starters were first revealed my immediate choice was Popplio or Litten, but Rowlets is the only one who has a good final evo. I've warmed up to Littens since, but god I hate Popplios.

>>27716038
It wasn't really a competition, at least one that I entered, I just don't like the fuckers. Not the first designs I didn't like and I'm sure they won't be the last, though they are the first gen 7 designs that I've disliked, thus far. We all operate on opinions here, though, so I feel no qualms about emphatically stating mine.

>>27716746
I don't think Rowlet has a horrible final evo design, but it's not great, and it's a pretty shit type, defensively. I thought the starters last gen were refreshing in type and design, all three of them new starter types with a great theme and interesting design. These ones are just really disappointing for me. I don't need them to enjoy the game, though, and I'm hoping Rockruff can be a good alternative to them.

>>27716036
Please let that one be fake, locking me onto whatever shit evo Rockruff might have based on my starter is one of the most retarded things they could have come up with.

>>27716699
It's not for post game purposes but for the pve part. It's basically only there so that you don't have an easy time breeding a bunch of starters as early as the first pension comes around.
Ditto is usually a late or post elite 4 encounter, as is the friend safari which is also dependent on having a friend with the specific safari for starters. It's to give them a sense of rarity and discourage every chucklefuck kid in existence to run around with a full starter team or flooding gts with them, now only the autistic ones will do that.

>>27716935
Did you see the 3 Rockruff's sticking around the the starters in that promo art?

>>27717548
A new one or an old one? If it's old I must admit that I don't remember it, the detail probably didn't really grab my attention back then.
All of that was probably already discussed in that leak thread, do you remember in which one it was mentioned? I would look it up in the archive then.

>>27717677
It's an old artwork with Pokemon and trainers playing out in the grass. I think it's the same one where people were speculating about Alola Tarous.

https://archive.nyafuu.org/vp/thread/27677532/#27689640

Here is the thread

>>27707021
>concept art
/thread

>>27707021
>Male poppolio last evo is a beatiful mermaid princess

How will this work?

>>27719076
Just like Delphox

>>27717952
Thanks, I'm gonna read it later.
I just hope that even if it turns out to be true, that it's not chosen starter specific but rather starter in your team at that moment specific. I don't want my choice of a starter to be partially dependent on how it will affect another pokemon's evolution.

I have already accepted that for the first time ever, I will be boxing my starter before they evolve. Atleast rest of the pokemon this gen are looking generally good so I have good alternatives for party building when I am not using one of these ugly shits.

>>27719447
wow where have I read this post before.

>>27719447

No one cares, fag

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>>27707260
Shit nigga even I'm a denialfag but I know that's Mallow, don't play yourself like this

>>27707021
why are there so many anons on /vp/ with sticks up their asses about these starters? They do look great, aside from Litten3's hands.

>>27710414
kek :D

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>>27707260
tfw the denial is too strong

>>27714460
Different forms would be the split evos, as forms is a big deal this gen.

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>>27720820
>MUH CLOWN BRO AND MUH QUADRUPED CAT

>>27720820

Vocal minority.

>>27720820
Its just my opinion mate, I just think they're ugly. Why can't we just accept we might have different taste instead of giving other anons shit for not agreeing with you.

>>27722161
>Why can't we just accept we might have different taste instead of giving other anons shit for not agreeing with you.

Tell that to the people invading threads about them first that attack people for liking them.

Why does poppoilo lose the clown motif when it evolves?

>>27722566
>muh clown theme

ebin

>>27722566
The theme of Popplio's line is performing, not clown

Popplio is performer by looking sort of like a clown and doing tricks while Poppmaid is a performer by singing and it looks like some idol