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I tried, lads, but I don't think it's possible

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I tried, lads, but I don't think it's possible to salvage this thing.
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Just delete prewear
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>realisitc paws/claws
>on a stuffed animal/mascot

well you missed the point
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>>27666673
Its literally so easy to fix this design. Just get rid of the stupid fucking ear piece bullshit it has and give it actual fucking ears. Do this and it'll be 1000% better trust me.
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>>27666673
looks better already, OP

Give it some furry details in one or two spots to break up the shitty pink line, bring it's tail farther to one side so we can actually see it and it will give the whole design a bit more depth of field.

And... do something about that baret
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>>27666829
>those
>realistic
While I don't think the paws in OP look great those definitely aren't realistic, and they're a definite improvement.

>>27666673
Make the headband into actual ears, and put the ears on top of its fucking head.
Give it a fucking mouth, holy shit. Literally just put a horizontal line below the vertical line below its nose and it'd be a massive improvement.
Make some sort of separation between the head and the body. Make the head huge and round instead of being a weird sausage.
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>>27666933

It already has a mouth.
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>>27666673

You gotta fix the neckline.
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>>27666673

Add a pink puff of hair to the chest.

That's really all you needed to do.
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It doesn't even need those hand changes.

>get rid of 'toe' circles. just leave the feet plain
>erase the white 'headband' between the ears
>put a "^" below the philtrum
>transition the black color split beneath the head better

That's all. Do those things, and it looks great. Pre-evo is even easier, just do the mouth alteration.
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>>27666933

They're realistic as far as Pokemon style is concerned.
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>>27666673

>tries to "fix" a pokemon design
>makes it god awful

every time, this is just like the tumberinas who "fix" anime shows by making all the girls fat, ugly, and trans
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>>27666948
There is a specific absence of a mouth.
>But it's the line below its nuzzle, like on the prevo
Then why is the mouth bigger on the prevo?

Speaking of this, why the fuck is its mouth below its muzzle?
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>>27666876
Dude, c'mon man, less words.
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>>27666933
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>>27666673
As long as I pretend it's Monokuma I'm fine with it.
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>>27666673
looks better anon
even without claws

now delete its pre-evo and it will become much more bearable
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Get rid of the claws and make the hands look like this.
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>>27667038

I think that the idea, the more I look at the two side-by-side, might be that the prevo is intentionally "awkward" in terms of the proportions of its body. The limbs seem a bit too long, the head is too big, and the mouth is too large for its face. When it grows up it "fills out"; its mouth is now just the right size and its body is big enough for its unwieldy limbs and bulbous head.
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>>27667037

><> J
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>>27667053
Good lord, it looks even worse in-game. It looks like something a little kid would make on Spore.
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>>27667110
Is its prevo supposed to be a balloon animal? By your description I can kind of see that, and it goes along with the mascot thing... kind of.
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>>27667128
>>27667053
Whoops, meant for >>27667074
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>>27667110
Sure, but that doesn't make Bewear look any less fucking terrible.
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>>27666933
Make the ears pink, the head consistent with the rest of its body.

Done.
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>>27667135

I think that's kind of stretching it. The whole line is basically one big reference to the "Gloomy Bear" character, in that it starts off as this small cute thing that parents buy for their kids, but at the end of the day it's still a wild animal and when it grows up someone is going to wind up getting hurt.
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>>27667194
I didn't know what Gloomy Bear was, so thanks for the info. It was just a thought, anyway.
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>>27667184
>make it's ears pink
But Red Pandas have white ears and a weird two-tone color scheme like this? If you did that, it'd just be a bear. Also did you realise that black fur is only on the front of the body and does not wrap around?
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>>27667295
No I didnt realize that.
Maybe if I could see the pink on the sides in the art, thatd make it so much better.
In-game from the back, I mgiht actually like this horrid thing.
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>>27667321
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>>27667366
>>27667366
Yeah I checked the official site, I just hadnt seen that before because I never looked at the bear much. I appreciate anon opening my eyes, I'm going to give it a chance now when previously I wouldnt
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>>27666673
What about if it looked like this? Not so sure about how I drew the ears tho
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>>27666673
Great job you made it worse.
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>>27667743
Head should fit more like a mascot head, otherwise that looks great
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>>27667743
I wish this was real. Good job, anon.
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>>27667743
>What if it looked like Chespin?

I mean I love chespin but no
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I Love this thing, so cute. no sarcasm I sincerely like this mon, and will buy a plush if they make one.
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>>27666673
The coolouration/patterns are the problem. Maybe if his ears didn't look like a tacky head band and his pink head connected to a pink slotch on his stomach he would look beter.
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I did my best
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>>27669581
and failed
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>>27669581
Your best sucks

Bewear is perfect as it is, stop crying about it.
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>>27668939
Damn, now that you mention it, I can see that. It wasn't the intention, I just though a heart face pattern would have been cute and I didn't know what to do with the ears so they were just kind of there lol
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This thing looks like diglett after removing after some parts in ms paint
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STOP TALKING SHIT ABOUT BEWEAR. HE'S PERFECT THE WAY HE IS, Y'ALL JUST FAGGOTS WITH SHIT TASTE AND CAN'T APPRECIATE A GOOD DESIGN. FUCK I'M MAD
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>missing the point
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>>27669667
>>27669660

Oh sorry, I didn't know that fun wasn't allowed on /vp/
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>>27669667
>Bewear is perfect as it is

It really isn't.
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>>27667135
The prevo is a teddy bear, the evo is a mascot suit.
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There. Either of these look far better than the official version. Left one if you really have a hard on for red panda look being accurate.
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>>27666673
Color like a real red panda
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>>27666673
It can't be fixed, friend. It's a flawed concept. Why did Game Freak decide to include a Japanese mascot Pokemon in Alola, of all regions? Alola is the only region with any thematic cohesion in its designs, and Bewear is the glaring exception.

It's concept mandates that the design look goofy, but instead of a Pokemon that bears a striking resemblance to a mascot suit, it looks like a fucking animated mascot suit. There's no subtlety to the design, hence the neck seam and the shitty fairy ears which look completely out of place.

You cannot fix Bewear without either scrapping it or redesigning it completely.
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>>27670332
Not at all
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>>27670332
Nope, they both look just as bad if not worse.
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>>27670332
-1/10
Congrats you somehow made it go below zero
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Bewear is going on my team and he's gonna hug the fuck out of all you haters.
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>>27667366
Jesus, he's huge.
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>>27670332
This one looks good

>>27670489
>>27670497
Yes it does. You fags only think the official one is the best simply because it's official. That one looks far better. It looks cuter, it looks more like a red panda, and it got rid of the retarded headband.
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>>27667178
If it was gen 1 you'd love it.
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>>27669755
kek
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I don't like the headband/ears
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>tfw I'm going to use this thing to stomp the shit out of people only because it's so hated.
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>>27669425
>>27670332
>>27671668
I agree that the headband shit is stupid, but you people have never seen the underside of a red panda, have you? That black fur goes all the way up to its neckline because a real red panda's does.
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Tried to fix it but I literally can't. No matter what I do to this thing it looks like shit.
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>>27670039
Ah, but that's where you're wrong. Because it is.
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leavin this here
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Here guys, this one's on the house
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>>27672462
Red pandas are also not pink, but who minds that?
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I want this!
Nintendo pliz
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>>27667103

>bearable

Oh anon, you so silly.
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>>27666673
Oh, it's actually rather easy.

Simply consider it can't be worse than pic related.
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>>27672702
Alright, this looks like it has more effort. Good! GF really fucked up Bewear's line, poor red panda. Let's just hope in future Gen, we will get a better reiteration of this cute creature.

Now, anon, onto its prevo. Please?
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>>27671029

He's a big bear.
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>>27669581
anon dont let these assholes get to you, this loos great
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>>27672420
>Blaziken used Fire Blast!
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>>27673368

Thank ya anon, just for you. Hope you're still around.
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here's how you truly fix its design
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>>27673368

Annnd, cleaned it up a lil and gave it its own space. I was in a hurry to finish.
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>>27673673

Now THIS is excellent.
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>>27673702

***
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>>27672411
This is the best edit I've seen so far.
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>>27671059
no, its not.
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>>27672411
This is the only good one
BTW i still like the real one best
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>>27673346
Thanks to Bewear I can finally make peace with Luchatiger.
I love the idea behind Bewear and how they executed it and don't want to change a thing about it. However so many people hate it and from what I read it's due to a lot of them being disappointed about the general direction their long awaited red panda pokemon took. I feel simmliar with Luchatiger. I was waiting for a tiger pokemon and that it turned into a bipedal wrestler was disappointing.
If I look at the big picture though, I must say that the idea behind Litten as a heel wrestler, who said fuck it to the whole hiding his emotions and passionate side shtick from his first stage days, is sound. He's supposed to look like a cartoony muscle man villain and it works. I still think he's ugly, but I can appreciate the idea behind it and in that regard they did a good execution.
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>>27673346
I can't wait to see what this actually looks like
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>>27666673
>Pokemon based on a mascot? Better miss the point entirely and try and make it something else because I don't have the ability to read an image
The state of you, OP.
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>>27673712
>>27673673
I'm here. Hope YOU are here to see that I saw your edits. Thanks, anon. For taking your time.
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Hes easily the best designed in the gen so idk what the issue is
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>>27671029
>standing next to a ten year old and be smaller
no its not
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>>27666673
Just try and imagine it squeaking every time it walks.
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>>27673673
>>27673712
>>27672702

Ruined it.
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>>27672462
It's a Pokemon. Not a red panda.
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>>27676434
Hnnnng, cute.
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>>27676467
Most people don't seem to get that it's supposed to be an unsettling mascot suit, seeing how many just make it look cuter and more expressive in these fixing threads. That or they just don't like the idea in general.
If he actually looked like any of these fixes people would just meme about my mom's giant pink red panda anyway.
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>>27676862

The only fix I would consider acceptable would be adding some kind of fur pattern and tuft around the neck "seam" meant to evoke a zipper.
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Reminds me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apt2ohomX8g
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>>27676862
>>27676900

>Concept is more important than final product

It's okay that you have to force yourself to like it, but it looks terrible and I'd rather have it this way.
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>>27677638

Who are you quoting?

Finding a way to execute the concept more successfully is better than throwing out the concept entirely.
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>>27673383
For you
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>>27677638
>Concept is more important than final product
Of course it is you fucking retard. You need the concept to fully understand why the final product looks this way, why the final product have these design aspects, etc. Its your fucking fault for letting your personal desires get in the way of fully accepting a design. Eat shit.
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>>27677855

>You need the concept to fully understand why the final product looks this way

To fully understand why it looks like shit? Yes I've comprehended that. The concept led to a failed final product. My personal desire is that it actually looks like a Pokemon.
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>>27677936
What if, anon, people actually, I don't know, don't think Bewear looks bad? Like, I get that it didn't meet whatever stupidly specific expectations you or anyone else set out for a red panda pokemon, but this shitposting is almost as bad as anti-litten3 posting.
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>>27678027

It doesn't matter to me what other people think.
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>>27677638
But I'm not forcing myself to like it. I fucking love Bewear and his concept since day one. He reminds me of Kumamon and despite hardly ever using fighting pokemon I will most likely put him on my team.
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Give it six spines, more brown, some tentacles, perhaps a puckered mouth

That'd be a much better sea bunny than it already is
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>>27677936
>shitting on Breloom
Well, fuck you too.
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>>27676900
Then it wouldn't be a Pokemon, it would be a suit.

>>27677638
>the concept should be disregarded and it should just be random monsters
>not understanding a concept as simple as Pokemon
It has to represent what it represents or else it's not representing what it is intended to represent, you absolute retard.
If it didn't convey its concept then it would just be some random monster which would make it entirely pointless
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>>27677936
Shit list is shit
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>>27678703
>>27678430

I was making a point of comparing to other Pokemon that actually look like Pokemon you mouth breathers.
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>>27678723
I wasn't entirely sure you were that autist again, but now I know for sure.

You. Cannot. Decide. What. Is. Or. Is. Not. A. POKEMON.

Designs are too eclectic, there are trends, but they aren't present everywhere. Please just take your autism and go somewhere else, because your too autistic for pokemon, and that's saying something.
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>>27678723
Shit list and an Autistic fag
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>>27678809
>>27678785

Look how mad you both are about your ugly shitty Pokemon. Get a grip.
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>>27678868
>people explained something to me
>I post random garbage shitposts because I can't explain my point because I have no idea how to discuss design because I don't understand how to read images and I can't get something as simple as the concept behind Pokemon
>better just keep calling it shit for no reason
Awful, stop shitting up the board
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>>27679157

You gonna slap a plate of tendies out of your mom's hand because this Pokemon looks so terrible and people are honest about it?
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>>27679194
>>27678868
Somebody loves his ad hominem.

>this Pokemon looks so terrible
Opinion.
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>>27679236

It's not an opinion. Because I've proven it as fact.

See

>>27677936
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>>27679194
I don't know what a "tendies" is, burdgertard, but I know how to read an image. I understand designs and have made a career out of doing that, as well as assembling concepts into visual media. I'm an actual authority on this shit.

It's great that you make sweeping comments and shitposts and think it makes you a cool guy, for some reason; it helps everyone pick up that you're worthless and have no idea what you're talking about.
However, when you enter a discussion you have to actually discuss the subject. It took me 10 seconds to figure out Bewear's design because it is so good that it properly conveys everything it is meant to. That definitively makes it a good design.
If you don't understand design then don't act like you do. And if you can't read an image then you have to have an actual mental illness because cultured humans are conditioned to read images.
Also, resorting to
>I was only pretending to be retarded
or
>but lol its bad, stay mad you cuck
is an announcement that you concede the argument because you don't have a rebuttal.

Thanks for playing, you can go back to being a pathetic loser who never leaves his house now.
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>>27679271
>My personal desire
Yea, you just proved you have a contrasting opinion.
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>>27679305

There's no discussion to be had. It is plainly a bad design that doesn't resemble a Pokemon. If you compiled a list of any number of Pokemon and stuck Bewear next to it, it would stick out. It's over simplification is shoddy, its color scheme is atrocious, and when you add the blank expression on top of all of that you have something that doesn't look like it came from the Pokemon franchise.

I shitpost because it isn't worth the effort arguing competitively with you ass pained Gamefreak apologists. No matter what anyone says you will cherry pick until you've deluded yourself that you're right. Every time, that's the way this board operates.

Thank (You), for playing.
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>>27679419
>If I support one design the majority dislikes I am a Game Freak shill

Nah. Also, you're the one who is fucking cherry picking.
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>>27679419
Ok mate, I'll humour you.
You make a blunt statement, now explain it:
How does it not "resemble a Pokemon"?
You know, since it is one and clearly ticks all the boxes a Pokemon needs to tick.
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>>27679419
>Gamefreak apologists
>>>tumblr
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>>27679468

"It's over simplification is shoddy, its color scheme is atrocious, and when you add the blank expression on top of all of that you have something that doesn't look like it came from the Pokemon franchise."

Also re read what I said about cherry picking.
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>>27671668
This one looks pretty good

>>27678723
Disregard the faggots - there is room in animated or fictional series for what tv tropes calls "art evolution", but there is a basic level of consistency that keeps things identifiable within a brand, your picture proves that. Many of the Pokemon revealed so far stray from even gen V conventions of design
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>>27679446
Not him. I don't like Bewear at all, yet I understand its concept.

Still, I just can't like it, but disliking certain designs like Bewear, Fennekin, Zorua and many others, is not against the design or concept itself, is the art-style. Zorua doesn't even have toes, their limbs lacks any detail.

Nobody bat an eye at Pokémon like Pangoro, Dragale, Haxorus, Braviary, Volcarona or others because it has enough detail to work, but things like Bewear were made deliberately to look like toys.

I take Foonguss over Voltorb any day of the week, and Trubbish is a cute little thing. Grimer is just bad yet at least it had a resemblance of work in its viscosity. Bewear is the most insulting desing in its over simplicity.

Not gonna lie, with Bewear it was the first thing that I said "this is shit" to a Pokémon.
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>>27679305
Tl;dr

Skimmed it tho and you seem upset (:
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>>27679419
>It's over simplification is shoddy, its color scheme is atrocious, and when you add the blank expression on top of all
GEE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THAT IS EXACTLY LIKE THAT
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>>27679508
Not him, but that doesn't explain shit. You keep saying it doesn't fit, but you don't say how.

>color scheme is atrocious
Pokemon run the entire gamut in all different sorts of combinations. A pokemon you haven't complained about, Bruxish, is composed of several clashing/garish colors and it's still a Pokemon. Given the concept behind Bewear (an innocent-looking bear that can hug you in two), they chose pink and white to give an impression of harmlessness, while black was chosen as it's a common color on actual red pandas. The blank expression implies simpleness, but it also gives off a slight unsettling quality like a lot of costumed characters.
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>>27679508
I don't like Bewear either and think it's poorly executed, but goddamn. Why does everyone who dislikes something have to put on a fancy hat and act like everyone should kneel to their superior opinion and taste? Some people just like things, there doesn't have to be a deep, significant meaning and well constructed point to liking something in every single instance of someone liking something. It'd be like me going into depth about why chocolate ice cream is superior to vanilla.
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>>27679508
So your argument is
>I refuse to read the countless posts explaining what it is and will instead complain about the details that make it good as if that makes sense
Great.

Bewear is a bear, within the Pokemon world. However, its design is based on a mascot - pic related. Mascots are a huge deal in Japan, as well as America and outside of that they can be seen in theme parks and sports games.
Everyone in the world knows what one is so not getting it is instantly admitting to being a retard.

A Pokemon is designed with the intention of serving as a representation of aspects from human culture that a child would encounter on an adventure.
Hawaii is a popular holiday destination, it is also home to colourful wildlife. Insert mascot bear. The Bear not only represents mascots - large, looming humanoid figures that hug people and appear friendly, yet have a creepy uncanny quality - but also represents the dangers that wild life represents as many dangerous animals are either attractively colourful, or are presented as friendly in children's media. Bewear takes advantage of all of this and wraps it up in one, neat package and all of that is alarmingly obvious at half a glance.

Additionally the mascot itself, that the bear is, is a maid-red panda thing. But we won't go too far into design analysis because you're clearly struggling to get the top layer in.

>>27679591
I'm not upset, mate, though it is upsetting that there are people who can't read a couple lines of text because that's too much work for them.
If you can't read a paragraph it's no wonder you can't read an image.
I instantly produce points at this length because I'm knowledgeable on the subject and it comes naturally.
Have a (you), from me to you.
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>>27679663

>You keep saying it doesn't fit, but you don't say how.

(You)
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>>27679701

Bewear being a mascot suit Pokemon and its final appearance looking incomparable to Pokemon don't have to be mutually exclusive. That is the point you are missing. People have been posting drawings of Bewear that look better than Gamefreak's product since it was revealed. It shouldn't have been green lit.
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>>27679701
>couple lines of text

>this whole post

>I ain't mad tho

People you're fooling: 0
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>>27679731
>by saying (You), I can refute his argument!
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>>27679798
>and its final appearance looking incomparable to Pokemon
That isn't even a point, it doesn't even nearly make sense
The Pokemon represents what it intends to represent. Every single "improved" version posted in this thread removes aspects of the design that are important to it.

Your problem isn't with the Pokemon, your problem is that you're design illiterate and that you're mistaking the current trends in illustration and children's media presentation with overall quality. You're just completely out of your depth.

>>27679815
Why are you shitposting at me?
Do you not know how to read? Do you not know the word 'hyperbole'?
That was the most casual response, faglord.
I'm writing matter of fact because something being 'good' or 'bad' is an objective statement and requires objective discourse.
Have another (you) for you troubl[ing lack of intelligence]
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>>27671029
>he
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>>27679910

>You're wrong because I claim to be a design expert on an anonymous image board.
>Aspects of its design are important even though they're the reason its received so much backlash, and the reason we're having this discussion.
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Bewear would be better if they made the fur pattern like a wrestling singlet and turning the headband into a headgear. It fits with the type and with the hugging gimmick.
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>>27680013
>greentexts are a substitute for a point
>if someone responds to my reasons for it being "bad" and I can't argue with them I can just not make any more points but keep telling them it is bad anyway
You're a retard.

It's a mascot, so it needs to be textureless, it needs to have an inexpressive face, it needs to have nubs for extremities and a giant head.

Its colouration and a lot of its features are taken from red pandas because they are kawaii.

Its colours are broken up to resemble a maid outfit, its ears are made into a maid's head thing to make it look moe/clumsy so it carries all of its charcterisation in its design.

All of this is obvious.

Explain how that makes it bad. Go on, I've been waiting for a while now. Explain how encompassing everything it has to for it to be what it is makes it bad when it definitively makes it good?

You could just say that you're not into it, which is fine. But, again, you liking something isn't worthy of discussion so you should just go away regardless.
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>>27680085
aside from the 'maid features' debate, I honestly think the ears are supposed to be wrestling headgear.
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>>27679910
Wow you sound autistic. I don't even mean that in the new 4chan troll way, I mean you sound smelly and uncomfortable to be around
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>It's a mascot, so it needs to be textureless, it needs to have an inexpressive face

These are not explicitly features of a mascot costume.

Being a static cylinder with four cylinders for appendages are not explicitly features of a mascot costume.

You're trying to falsely praise the poor design choices on the grounds that this is exactly what most mascots resemble, apparently. They do not.
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>>27680224
>discussing something properly and not shitposting makes you autistic
So posting on 4chan is your only outlet for human interaction. Great.

>>27680266
>These are not explicitly features of a mascot costume
Yes they are. Because of the materials they are made from and the merchandise they need to be made into, mascots are always textureless, round forms.
And you didn't even give me a (you), terrible form.
Now present an actual argument or just admit that you're spouting random hot opinions, please. Okay?
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>>27680149
There are some pretty awful statements in this refute such as the "maid", but you're kind of arguing with a lost cause.

He thinks his opinion is right and that disliking this thing is the normal because he probably only gets his feedback from good old 4chin itself, the perfect breeding ground for cynicism. Most people on here like to whine and think they're right when they get a single pat on the ass desu.
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>>27680303
Lmao you sound so fucking spastic it's great
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>>27675510
>Litten couldn't be this without the shit ton of neck hair
I fucking love this, god damn
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>>27680314
Oh, yeah, I know. I'm just playing with my dog and playing with El Hijo Del Autismo to keep me entertained.
Plus, people who might have missed the point might pick something up from my posts.
Also, it's some maid bits, but it's entirely to convey the moe/clumsy stuff and to give it some more details, it's the most minor part of the design.

>>27680326
If you're going to keep shitposting, at least make it a good shitpost, summerfag
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>>27666673
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>>27680303

>Because of the materials they are made from and the merchandise they need to be made into, mascots are always textureless, round forms

Yeahhhhhhh, no. You tried, but nothing you've said has proven that Bewear resembles a Pokemon and you're just denying with absolutes now so I'm moving on.
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>>27680562
>I refuse to make a point so I'll just pretend I am correct
Alright, mate, keep on not understanding the concept behind children's game that I figures out when I was 8.
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>>27680411
>all this autism

>but I'm the summerfag

hahahaha trying every trick in your book now, huh?
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>>27680623
>namecalling
Not him.

But a lot of people, not even here in 4chan, understand the concept behind Bewear; and myself included, we can't bring to like it.

It looks bad. Blunt. It looks bad, you can make and argue about the Mascots, Maids and all that but the thing looks bad. It's "supposed to be a Mascot", yet it isn't a Mascot per se, a Mascot is a guy in a costume, of course is going to look clumsy and awkard, but a living being isn't going to have limbs like that.

Is the art style, not the design itself, a little more detail work in its limbs or paws could improve the thing, but Bewear just looks bad as it is.
Spouting its concept is not going to change that.
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>>27680544
Much more bearable! Thanks, Anon.
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>>27679419
>I shitpost because it isn't worth the effort arguing competitively with you ass pained Gamefreak apologists.
It's apparently worth it to post the same replies in at least 3 different threads. People like you make me feel better because now I know my autism could be worse.
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>>27677638
You are completely right when it comes to Litten3's design

>b-but it's a HEEL
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My only problem with Bewear is that headband thing. Just make it look like normal ears and it's fine. Its art looks bad, but it looks good in 3D.
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>Implying Bewear isn't fucking perfection in design
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>>27680792
can we re-purpose this as a bewear thread?
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>>27680544
I'm honestly starting to love how much Bewear pisses people off. It's like a small scale Luchatiger. I need more Bewear meme pictures.
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>>27678662

>Then it wouldn't be a Pokemon, it would be a suit.

You are as dumb as a sack of hammers, or blind. Which one is it?
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>>27680771
A lot of art in this gen looks kind of bad for some reason. It feels off. That's how I can believe that those starter leaks could be real because it's staying consistent with all this bad art and colour theory happening lately.
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>>27680818
Yes, we should. Bewear needs more love.
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>>27680828
>the definition of a contrarian
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>>27680886
>The definition of butthurt.
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>>27680674
>>namecalling
I didn't call anyone a name, mate.
And I don't care who likes what, that guy said something objectively doesn't look like a Pokemon and is bad.
I asked him to explain. He didn't.

>It looks bad
No, it looks really good. You just don't like it. There's a difference.
>a living being isn't going to have limbs like that
A living being isn't going to be a magnet with a screw in its head and one eye.
Also, Elephants have limbs like that.

>art style
A non-term, art can't have a style. It's just "the style".

>Spouting its concept is not going to change that
So explaining why a design; something that is made to present an idea, presents its idea makes it bad? That's completely ironic.

I don't care if you don't like it, no one does. You're free to not like things - I dislike lots of stuff. But not liking something =/= its quality.

>>27680634
I'm not sure why you're shitposting, but I'll give you your (you)s because you're making more sense than the other people I'm replying to.

>>27680792
Exactly, it's literally the most effective design I've seen in years. And half of the people I know are professional designers.

>>27680843
What are you asking?
It is a Pokemon, it is based on a suit. The In game monster isn't a suit, you don't wear it.
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>>27680828
spooky as fuck ;_;
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>>27680886
Jokes on you, I already loved Bewear since the beginning, but instead of being sad and or pissed about all the hate he gets I'm kinda starting to enjoy it now.
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>>27666673
You fags need to fuck off with this meme.
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>>27680913

>What are you asking?
>It is a Pokemon, it is based on a suit. The In game monster isn't a suit, you don't wear it.

I'll just jot you down as illiterate then.
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>>27680674
This
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>>27680913
>this level of damage control

>>27680792
It's stiff and Unbefitting of the Pokemon franchise, but at least it's not that grass owl starter third form
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>>27680960
The meme of having to fix Bewear or Bewear himself?
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>>27680674
Not liking something is totally fine. It's when certain autistic individuals try to present opinion as objective fact that I get irritated with it. Just day you don't like it, and move the fuck on.
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>>27681060
>somebody saved my request
;w;
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>>27680978
>give a bear a zipper to make it not look like a bear anymore, but instead to overstate the mascot thing to an extent that it takes away from the looming creature aspect and replaces it with a "this is clothes" one
That's what you wrote, I responded with an apt enough explanation for anyone who actually is literate. Fuck off.

>>27681047
>replying to a post with a point is "damage control"
If you don't have a point to make, don't just insert yourself in a discussion.

>>27681064
This. It's scary how self-important people are.
It's as bad as the "Harley Quinn is sexy in this movie - despite that always being her entire character - so its bad" retards. Like, it's what it is supposed to be. If you don't like it then continue not liking it, but if it does what it is meant to then it is doing it well.
not to imply that a super hero movie is "good", but that the character is portrayed properly in it.
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>>27680913
>A living being isn't going to be a magnet with a screw in its head and one eye.
Alright, a monster.

>So explaining why a design; something that is made to present an idea, presents its idea makes it bad? That's completely ironic.
You just answered...
>It is a Pokemon, it is based on a suit. The In game monster isn't a suit, you don't wear it.
And that's the problem. They designed a Costume and called it a Monster. Not the other way around.

>>27681064
I get that. But mostly I dislike the style the some designs had lately, Game Freak designs the things as toys first and foremost most of the time.

I'd lie if I say that EVERY new Pokémon follow that trend, but the ammount is increasing. I undertand that they do that in order to increase merchandising and all that, but is not like it's needed, Pokémon sells because it's fucking Pokémon, they toys will sell regardless, no need to make the Pokémon almost living toys, they're Monsters, it's in their name.
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>>27681084
Did I make you happy or sad with this? I should probably go and request some funny Bewear pictures too, I'll need them to meme on people in the future.
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>mascots have to be amorphous blobs
I dunno, if you're gonna do a mascot thing, you should probably rip off Disney, they have mascots down pat.
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>>27681200
happy, I thought it was a funny idea.

and If you aren't here already, >>27681133
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>>27681190
How are you this incompetent?
It's a Pokemon based on Mascots. Mascots aren't supposed to be seen as a man in a suit, they're supposed to be big, cartoon animals.
If the Pokemon was literally a man in a suit, like a three-piece suit then that'd be an issue.
But you literally haven't made a single point and it's scary how fucking stupid you are.

>>27681207
>disney
They're characters who are made into mascots.
Actual mascots, like the Japanese regional mascots that the design is based on, are characters in and of themselves.
If you make a mascot Pokemon and reference Disney mascots the you'e making an American cartoon Pokemon and not a mascot Pokemon.
That's the worst argument I've seen in this whole thread.
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>>27667074
God that mouth makes it look so fucking bad
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>>27681286
>Actual mascots, like the Japanese regional mascots that the design is based on, are characters in and of themselves.
And if they are good, they resemble characters, because that's what they're trying to be. If they are poorly designed, they are amorphous blobs. Pic related is a decent japanese mascot. It is of a much higher quality than bewear. If your mascot resembles Disney in TERMS OF QUALITY, you inbred hick, since you are so stupid you can't understand my point unless it's in all caps, and even then I bet you'll fuck it up in your reply, then it will look good. If it is a poorly designed, American high-school tier mascot, you have utterly failed. How about you search american high school mascots and tell me what you come up with, because I'm pretty sure it'll be on par, or perhaps better, in quality than bewear.
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>>27681415
That's a burger, mate.
Bewear needs to communicate that it IS a mascot character, which is why the red-panda and maid motifs are so minor. It needs to be a mascot, that is actually a bear. first and foremost, which is what it is and what it does.
If it had any superflous details it would become something else.
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>>27681255
Thanks, I hadn't seen this yet. Time to get more bears.
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>>27681286
I was answering you in good terms because you were supposedly cultured about this. But you resort to namecall at your first chance.

>It's a Pokemon based on Mascots. Mascots aren't supposed to be seen as a man in a suit, they're supposed to be big, cartoon animals.
Let me put it on caps so it gets through your skull right to your brain:

AND THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM. THE THING LOOKS LIKE A GUY USING A FUCKING COSTUME. NOT A CARTOON ANIMAL. NOT A MONSTER. A GUY IN A COSTUME

Also, I just followed up your retort at Magnemite to not make that much trouble.
But Magnemite, Trubbish, Roggenrolla, Klink, Castform and others are supposedly Object-based Pokémon, not animal based, the comparison is completely out of place.

You should be comparing Bewear to the lot of Animal-Based Pokémon, and even if you want, to more simplistic ones, but being an Animal-based Pokémon and having even less details than Fennekin or Fletching shows how bad the thing is.
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>>27681506
Case in point, the image in the post you are replying to is actually a costume, but you could not tell because it was a well-designed mascot.

>Bewear needs to communicate that it IS a mascot character, which is why the red-panda and maid motifs are so minor.
And because of that, it fails to communicate that it's a mascot, it's just an amorphous blob. Is there anything wrong with amorphous blobs? No, Grimer is A-OK. But if that amorphous blob is supposed to be a mascot, then you fucked up somewhere. If the red panda and maid -if it even is a maid- motifs were more pronounced, it would look much, much better, perhaps even like a mascot pokemon. If they designed a red panda maid and then altered its appearance to be a mascot, it would look like a well-designed mascot, rather than a blob with no discernible influence.
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>>27681599
Forgot to add:
A BOOTLEG Costume.
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>>27681599
>I'll come across as superior if I say I am and type in caps
What is wrong with you?
I'm not even reading your aspie ramblings, I'll just bullet point it because you clearly don't understand.

Bewear is a Pokemon
Its a bear that is based on a mascot character - most notably Kumamon, one of the most famous characters of any kind in Japan.
As a Pokemon, it needs to present the ideas it is meant to.
It is a Pokemon based on a mascot.
Mascot's are clumsy, awkward, uncanny and give hugs.
Bears are strong and look like bears
Bewear is a clumsy, uncanny bear that gives hugs.

How do you not get that?

>>27681641
Oh yeah, because I thought that was a real, living burger?
Bewear is very obviously a mascot if you've ever seen one. They look exactly like that. It's also a bear, not a burger, not a weightlifting rhino, not Mickey Mouse, it's a bear that is designed to resemble mascots.
It looks exactly like Kumamon, but with red panda features and a maid head thing. It couldn't be any more obvious.
>just an amorphous blob
you clearly don't know what that means, it is clearly a bear that is a mascot.

Did your mother forget to give you your special pills or something, Wyoming middle-school loser table captain Lester?
I don't know how to adequately make fun of you American teenagers, which is what you definitely are, because I'm not from a cultureless wasteland so I'm trying to babby them up as much as possible so you know I'm belittling you for being idiots.
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>>27682012
>Oh yeah, because I thought that was a real, living burger?
Yes, you did, until I pointed out your mistake. I'm sorry you're so retarded. Maybe one day you'll actually be able to fire more than one neuron at a time. See:
Anonymous 08/10/16(Wed)16:10:45 No.27681506 ▶>>27681641

>>27681415 (You)
That's a burger, mate.

>Bewear is very obviously a mascot if you've ever seen one.
No, it really isn't. It doesn't have any mascot motif and is just an amorphous blob. Mascots have motifs that make them stand out and reflect what they are advertising. This amorphous blob has nothing. It could be some sort of tanooki, for fuck's sake. Do you know what a tanooki is?
>It looks exactly like Kumamon, but with red panda features and a maid head thing.
You need to get your eyes checked, because there is no clear maid motif on that thing you call a mascot, and it looks nothing like Kumamon. For one, Kumamon has facial details, like eyebrows and cheeks. Another, Kumamon is very obviously a mascot. Perhaps one day, if you study really hard, you'll be able to form fully coherent thoughts, and you won't have such trouble discerning mascots from meaningless blobs.
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>>27681139

>That's what you wrote

That isn't what I wrote. I'll add "mentally challenged" next to illiterate.
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