>Most of the Aloan forms have been cool/make sense >They

>>27652299
It was bred and raised by the royal family in Alola, the pose its doing is a curtsy, and it has a more placid expression. It's more refined than normal Meowth.

>>27652299
I think the simplicity was a great choice.

It's the same species just a different breed.

>>27652342
This desu, all the other Alola formes have been radically different due to having to adapt to their environment.

Meowth on the other hand was selectively bred to be a different shade, probably due to a sudden mutation that caused it's fur to be darker when the royals said "holy shit, this is way better than that plain Meowth". There were no other environmental factors to adapt to

>>27652299
For all we know, in-game Alolan Meowth is quadrupedal.

>>27652421
Oh boy the possibilities.
On the other hand,
>Alolan Meowth has a unique fainting animation where it bows before fainting

>>27652299
The whiskers are different.

>>27652299
I guess this lends credibility to that leak that claims that there's Alolan forms that's palette swaps, though that doesn't make that leak less fake. As usual.

>>27652299
Wait until we see the Persian form. Maybe the changes will be more radical then.

>>27652299
I think the new forms are great. It can make some of the oldest Pokemon viable with stat and ability changes.

>>27652299
I really like this fanart of Purrloin!

>>27652419
I mean this makes sense, hopefully somehow Persian makes a larger change

>>27652479
this, it may not be much but it's false to call it a straight recolour

>>27652576
not meowth. purrloin is better in any way possible.

I just hope it keeps Technician so it can run a gimmick set with Bite.

Will they finally put Purrloin back on all fucking fours now that there's a new bipedal first stage dark-type cat?

>>27652299
>team rocket with their talking meowth will encounter team skull and their smug as hell talking alolan meowth
Please let this happen

>>27652644
Purrloin is forgettable.

>>27652419
Selective breeding creates drastic changes way faster than natural adaption. So your point makes no sense.

>>27652723
still better in any way conceivable tho

>>27652723
>forgettable
Spotted the underage.

>>27652630
Th coin is also miraculously 2d. Meowth's coin you can see the edge of it.

And if they made him drastically different, people would complain and whine how the gen 1 designs are better.

>>27652299

Did you literally shop his tail.

>>27652766
I did no editing, that's a screen grab of the leak on Serebii

>>27652760
i hate gen 1 designs which is why i'm sad they were so lazy with this one
ninetales, sandshrew/sandslash and exeggutor had so much more going on that this

>>27652299
Did we REALLY need another Purrloin?

Hopefully Alola Persian will be dual typed to make it stand out.

>>27652737
lolwut

>>27652626
bipedal persian

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>>27652745

>Th coin is also miraculously 2d. Meowth's coin you can see the edge of it.

>>27652737
But I'm 30

I just don't remember purrloin very well. I've played every gen but if that's from gen 4 or 5 it's too long ago for me to remember much about it.

>>27652299
I want to fuck Aloan Meowth

Its the end result of breeding for a shiny, that it became the regional form.

>>27652831
If you think any Pokémon is forgettable, then you don't belong on a board dedicated to Pokémon.

>>27652299
I'm fine with the look, it's about as much difference as I'd expect from a normal type cat, but it's lame for it to just be pure Dark, really encroaching on Purrloin, since it's already similar but is now in basically direct competition due to similar roles, moves, stats, and now typing

>>27652941
sorry i dont like your waifumon damn

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>>27652299
This is a recolor

>>27652991
Ghostbuster Jibanyan is the best Jibanyan

>>27652839

pls no

>>27652725
Potentially, not always.

>>27652991
>Jibanyans have actually new features
>We get LOL GREY MEOWTH

>>27652299
I mean I don't mindlessly hate it but they could have at least changed the fucking coin.

I'm guessing Persian will look fabulous

>>27652299
wtf meowth is a limp-wristed poofter now?

>>27652419
>all the other Alola formes have been radically different

White Ninetails is "radically different" apparently.

>>27652342
The only change I would have made is swapping the coin out for something more expensive looking.

If it was bred by royalty it should have a jewel or something.

I just woke up, where can i find the full leak? I can only see loose images.

>>27652991
Pretty much all of those look more different than Meowth and Alola Meowth.

>>27653258
Holy shit they totally should've gone with a jewel.

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You know what? I expected region variations to be color swaps with minor details added. NOT weird type changes that don't make sense. How does a vulpix or sandshrew become an ice type?

>>27653310
Z crystals

>>27653258
Now I want this, Fuck you for making me want this!

>>27653331
Seems legit

>>27653310
>How does a vulpix or sandshrew become an ice type?

Read the official site

>>27653310
Environment adaptation

>>27653231
It is

>>27653347
>>27653349

There's no reason for a fire type to become ice. It can keep warm just fine. Can vulpix mutate into a white color? Of course. But the ice change makes no sense.

>>27653310
It lives on a fucking mountain of ice and dreams for 9000 years.

>>27653394
fire/ice could have been cool

It's still a Meowth. If it had any more changes it might as well be a different pokemon.

>>27653394
We think of types as being an innate part of a creature because that's how the gameplay works in super-effectiveness and so on, but it's really about what the Pokemon is proficient with. The Alolan Ninetales uses ice crystals to attack, so it's an Ice type.

>>27653394
It's not difficult to imagine that if a fire type Pokemon stayed for generation and generation in the eternal snow it will start changing slowly to adapt, this is kind of how biology works

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>>27653258
>>27653293
>>27653339
Even better

>>27653454
other anon is saying that being a Fire type is actually an advantage is a snowy area though, so what drives it to lose this typing?

Meowth is bland to begin with, if it wasn't for the anime then Meowth and Persian would be the most forgettable pokemon in existence.

>>27653465
The fire melts the ice, causing it to become water and fuck firemon up, because firemom weak to watur.

>>27653465

>melting your surroundings
>an advantage

>>27652299
This Meowth is suave and doesn't give a fuck about your nigger ass

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>if i see that fucking pokemon one more time

>>27653465
Metabolism, creatures with a high body temperature need a lot of food to survive and tundras are typically barren like a desert. They adopted Ice type for dietary reasons.

>>27653465
food scarcity, needing Fire requires tonnes of energy

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Should've had a platinum coin instead of gold

>>27653544
Vulpix's aren't 100F to the touch.

>>27653578
>>27653589
Biologymind

>>27653578
>trying to apply real world biology to pokemon
>pokemon
>creatures that "evolve" in a flash of light

>>27653578
>>27653589
I can dig it

>>27653696

Pokemon already has real life biology applied to it but ok

>>27653658

Yeah, breathing fire won't melt snow

WE don't know what Alolan Persian looks like yet

Why are people so mad? Vulpix was the more offensive palette swop with minor hairdo changes.

This Meowth has a totally different base personality

>>27653696
Because some people are complaining about how a fire type can't become a ice type in the first place

How would a cat look radically different just by living in another climate?

According to what we know about Alola Meowth this makes sense, it's not like he's living in a mountain like Vulpix/Sandshrew or is a plant like Exeggutor

>>27653741
To an extent.

>pokemon can evolve with magic stones
>creatures of different species can breed with each other

>>27653796
Exeggutor is the only sensible one so far.

>>27653812
They're all sensible

>>27652299
Purrloin was supposed to be the "black cat" pokémon. But nobody liked that shitty design, it wasnt even black. Its evo would have made more sense in black aswell.

Now the are forcing another smug dark type cat through the popularity of Meowth

>>27652564
this is my guess as well. i'm hoping for a persian that actually resembles a persian cat

>>27653798
>creatures of different species can breed with each other

You realize that happens in real life right?

>>27653812
only if you want to see it that way

>>27652299
Meowth is not even a bad redesign, it's actually kind of clever once you get the reasoning behind it.

As you probably know, Meowth is based on maneki neko, Japanese lucky cat figurines with a raised paw that invites fortune and other forms of good luck depending on color.

Alolan Meowth is gray. Gray or black maneki neko are supposed to ward off evil spirits and grant protection to the owner. It also has both of its paws lowered. This could be taken to suggest that it does the opposite -- it invites evil spirits.

In other words, it's an unlucky cat figurine. The Alolan royal family bred a lucky cat so much it turned into an unlucky cat.

>>27652299
Reserving judgment until I see Persian.

>>27653828
>wouldn't it be cool if vulpix was white?
>oh let's just make it the new ice/fairy type

Cue hundreds of head canon autistic threads about how Vulpix adapted to its environment

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>>27652906
you were saying?

>>27652299
>literally grey meowth
>people will defend this shit
sasuga /vp/

>>27653871
I just thought it was shrugging.

>>27653898

>headcanon
>literally stated in the official site

you're really stupid aren't you?

>>27653798
Clearly Alola's theme is allopatric speciation, as seen by the Alola variants and Oricorio.

>>27652299
Am I the ONLY one to think the design would have been a ghost, instead of dark type? I mean, would fit quite well too, adding yet another dark cat is so underwhelming.

>>27653903

So you ignored how Meowth's official artwork from 12 years ago looks just as 2D as the new Meowth. Alright.

>>27652299
It makes sense though. Vulpix and Sandshrew had to adapt, and I assume Exeggutor had to adapt as well. Meowth, on the other hand, was bred to be that way. I like it, but I hope there are more like Vupix and Sandshrew.

>>27652299
Oh boy, another dark cat...

>>27652737
No, he's 100% correct. Purrloin is a mediocre, forgettable Pokémon.
Sorry if he insulted your waifu, silly NEET.

>>27652342
I find the fact that they're giving actual reasons behind the designs is going over the heads of most of the people that are seeing these.

It's one thing to criticize a design but to criticize it without actually knowing anything about it makes it pretty baseless which is 90% of the shitposts on /v/ and /vp/.

>>27653871
Not bad. Hope we find this wealthy family's burned down mansion or something then.

>>27653860
You realize it's incredibly uncommon and usually occurs in offspring that is a unique result of the two parents breeding that doesn't live very long, right?

>>27653941
>>27653973

>another
>purrloin line

what else? you make it seem like there's tons of them

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>>27653898
>head canon

>>27653991
This, half of the people shitting on Bewear still don't know his gigantic height or the fact that it is feared in Alola

Why the fairy typing for Alola Ninetales?
Still sounds like it should be part ghost. Maybe dark.... they've got to many types now that do spooky stuff.

>>27653914
How do so many people not know what a curtsy is?

>>27654022
No, I just used the word another, which would mean that there is more than the one specified, as in there will be an additional dark cat.
do u reeding compreehenshun/?

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>>27654041
It breaks people in half with its hugs, I don't care what anyone says, I want that kind of power on my team.

>>27654022
Absol

>>27652914
Half of B2W2's plot was centered around a Purrloin, on top of it being the region's Rattata.
You literally cant forget Purrloin without having just never played the game. On top of that, Liepard is used by several trainers including the Elite 4.

>>27654041
Not to mention these are fairly different from old dex entries. There's a severe lack of
>It's so gr8 guys it kills 10,000 indian elephants with the blink of an eye.

I think they expected people to shit on them so they might as well spell it out.

>>27654000

Being uncommon doesn't mean it doesn't exist, which is what you implied.

>>27652991
Meowth is a recolor, these are variations. A lot of them are recolors of other variations, but theyre still more unique than this meowth is.

>>27652342
It's literally the Meowth the Team Rocket's Meowth fell in love with.

I love how people used to call Purrloin a Meowth ripoff, and now the tables have turned. Can't they just co-exist and hopefully both be good in competitive someday?

>>27654100

Not a cat

>>27652839
top kek

>>27654131
It's not supposed to be an entirely different Pokemon.

I know I'm the outlier but I much prefer simple recolors than trying something new and ruining a good món design like it happened with most gen IV evos for old pokemon and mega forms.

>>27652839
I'd kill myself if they do this.

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>>27654108
>Pidgeot is a shit bird with 91 speed
>hurr it flies at mach 2 and eats magikarp!!!

>Talonflame flies at a max of 321 mph
>126 speed and priority flying moves

>>27654184
And neither are these.

>>27654139
What does your shitty headcanon think Absol is?

>>27652299
Vulpix equally has this low level of change. The body is mostly the same witha pallet swap, the changes are very small details like meowths whiskers or the curls on vulpix tail

>>27654193
What do you mean most Gen IV evos, the only bad one I can think of is Lickilicky.

>>27654213
>Literally cherry picking

>>27654212
What if it turned into an evil looking butler or something?

at least i can fap to a new mon. I like more these color palette cuz it's more femminish by even looking at the official artwork

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>>27654222
Whatever the fuck this is supposed to be.

>it has fur and four legs its a cat!
No, its more like a fox or a wolf or some kind of goat.
Which explains why its so appealing to dog fuckers

>>27654251
>thinking Rhyperior has a good design
I can't even fathom your mindset.

>>27654302
I'm not a fan of Rhyperior's design, but it's better than nothing. Rhydon deserved an evolution, although it's not pretty.

>>27652299
It looks like meowth'a faggy cousin. God this game is going to be shit.

>>27653871
That also goes perfectly with it's new type. You're probably not far off.

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It's funny how people throw around words like "adaptation", "mutation" to prevent from using "evolution" when talking about alolan forms.

>>27654443
Because evolution in the game is different than what it is in the real biological sense.
Derp

>>27653871
alolan royals confirmed for shitters

>>27654251
Lickilicky is a real dopey looking fuck, I agree. But it is still fun to use. Or maybe it's just funny to use. Maybe both.

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>>27652299
Because that's what different cat breeds are.

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Found one.

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>>27654570
But even inside the game alolan forms ARE evolutions: new design, new stats, new abilities.

>>27652299
>he's
>him

>>27654833
goodrafucker pls go

What are the chances we'll get to meet the royal family?

>>27652704
Honestly, this is probably the only reason Alolan Meowth even exists, so they can write it into the anime as a rival to Team Rocket's Meowth.

>>27652299
>he

>>27654065
You said "yet" another. That implies more than one other.

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>>27652299
>yfw Alola Meowth gets a Gold Rush signature dark-type move that deals metal type damage on top of granting way more gold than Pay Day.

>>27654222
Absol is more of some sort of dog goat thing.

>>27654884
I would've preferred it if that dumbass OP used "its" instead.

>>27652704
>All Alolan Meowths are capable of talking due to their upbringing with the royals.

>Meowth goes through an existencial crisis due to no longer being a special snowflake.

>>27655056
We already have seen 1 member.

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>>27655232
>metal type

>>27652991
But the only ones there that are recolors are the Jewelnyans (of each other) and that black Jibanyan they used for a single sidequest in the first game and then never again. The others are more like the various Pikachu analogues they introduce with each gen. If you're gonna cite YW for recolors, you could at least show the many actual recolors the franchise has.

I think meowth should have been retyped to dark since gen 2 since meowth in the show are all that cheating scheming type that dark are like

>>27655298
>Being this pedantic
>Literally 1/3 of Yo-kais are shitty recolors.

>>27654833
>>27655126
>>she

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Why do you clowns hate recolors so much?

>>27652299
I'm more interested in Alola Persian. Regular Persian is cool and all but a little too plain looking.

>>27652745
>koban coins
>2D

Just because the width is small, doesn't make it 2 dimensional.
This is common sense stuff

>>27655390
>Alola Persian has a gold battle armor and becomes steel/dark.

>>27655333
Literally every Pokemon has a recolor. The number of yokai introduced in each YW game is still comparable to Pokemon generations even if you don't count the recolors. Of all the complaints people have about the franchise, I don't get that one.

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>>27655360
Because it's lazy and boring, and often feels like an afterthought. If you want a monster to have a counterpart 'mon, you have do SOMETHING more than just recolor it. Pic related.

>>27655507
so like 4chan and tumblr?

>>27654676
Not in the game world. Evolutions mean changing into one species to another.

These are clearly different forms of the same species.

But hey, go ahead and keep "debating"

>Pokemon becomes a homosexual
>Becomes Dark type as a result
Bravo The Pokemon Company

>>27655507
I'd take 20 meowth recolors over those two

what's the point of alola meowth when Liepard is already a superior dark-type persian?

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>>27652342
>It was bred and raised by the royal family in Alola, the pose
with Glameow

>>27653218
But it changes type

>technician dark type persian with stab bite and assurance + toxic potential.

It's not a third form or mega but it's decent enough.

>>27655251
>getting triggered over a pronoun in a video game
tumblr pls go and stay go

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>>27655614
Eh, perhaps not the best example.

>>27655614
You already have Yokai Watch for that

>>27653772
I don't really care either way but Vulpix was far more different.

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>>27655751
>no more Fake Out STAB

>>27653394
>can vulpix mutate into a white color
lore and the pokedex state that all vulpix start white and the turn red later in life.

>>27653796
>just by living in another climate?
meowths changes are not climate based, they were bred to look different.

>>27652299
>Alola Meowth is chill, because Japanese expats in Hawaii live relatively low stress lives compared to worker-bee culture Japan.

ITT: Nobody knows what a russian blue is

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>>27653654
That does look neat, and I like it better than the gold. However I think this color looks better so isn't a neutral and pops out. Plus it might give of impression of being made of presicous stone

>>27655275
metal is a type in the TCG

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>>27656531
I like it but to be fair to the critics, breeds differ much more than color and different attitude.

>>27652390
>>27652390

underrated post. this is how all alolan forms should be

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>>27656453
So vulpix are a little like flamingos basically?

>>27655751
Assurance and Toxic don't have synergy since poison damage happens at the end of the turn (after Assurance)

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>>27655751

>Mfw Alolan Persian doesn't get Technician for some reason.

maybe it is not the most exciting design by itself, but these little stories they're telling about how and why a species got a variation are indicative of a greater universe, a more expanded one. something that really speaks to the imagination of those who are less casual about the game.

that is why I'm very hyped for S&M

>>27652299
No sir I don't like it

>>27653229
They wanted to show that Japs are not all homophobes that hate fag Pokemon like Simisear by making a fag version of a popular mon. Hope it doesn't backfire.

>>27653987
If not for the anime Meowth would be extremely forgettable.

Different eye shape and the whisker curvature. It's honestly more than Vulpix.

>>27652299
>But Meowth is the same design except gayish blue.

fixed

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>there are people in this thread defending meowth's alolan form.
Pokemon fans just keep sucking Game Freak's dick.

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>>27657165
I just like it. Sorry that offends you

>>27657165
nice meme :)

>Bitching before we've seen Alolan persian, the form your meowth will willing nd the vast majority of its time as

>>27657165
>Everyone who likes things are shills!

There are a lot of scummy cat-like Pogeys.

>>27652390
This, its pretty cool to me

>>27655084
Really? I was thinking they would make it meowth's love interest like they do with almost any catmon. Either would be funny, but I'm sure the rival concept could expand to more than one episode.

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>tfw i love both persian and alola forms
>tfw alolan persian might turn out to be just a bigger glameow

>>27652299
i love the lore for it but its design feels lazy like if its made by a royal family why not have like a jewel where the coin would be

>>27652299
I want black panther Persian.

>>27654213

>comparing forme changes to variations

>>27652299
>They are NOT simply pallet swaps on previous models
Are you blind or just in denial?

It looks like a Russian Blue, which is a very sought over breed of cat.

>>27659168
They have stat changes, and only Meowth doesn't change its look.

>>27652598
Lel
Alolan Persian will be Liepard 2.0, and Liepard was already Persian 2.0

>>27653860
Yeah because in real life a while can totally reproduce with a kitten right?

>>27656857
So much this

>>27653465
it's not, if you're hunting you want to be camoflaged, and melting your surroundings does the opposite of that

>>27659490
I wonder if game freak will give their models different animations.

>>27659610
If Liepard invokes Doronjo with the face "mask", does that mean Alola Persian will be Marjo as the "Gen 1" version?

>>27658163

Why not both? Love interest AND Rival?

>>27652991
Now compare these to the Pikaclones

>>27652299
this isn't just a palette swap. He is sassy now.

>>27653258
>>27653293
>>27653339
They did. It's called "Persian".

>>27653258
I'm fine with it. Hawaii has a lot of Japanese influence in its culture, so having Lucky Cats be a thing in Alola fits, as far as I'm concerned.

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>>27657165

>>27653231
Considering it isn't just a White Ninetails, yes.

>>27652725
Selective breeding can also create tiny variations though. It just depends on what you breed for.
Most selectively bred reptiles are literally pallete swaps of the wild-type, for example.

>>27657165
I kind of want TR to get an Alolan Meowth with their regular one teaching it to speak too.

>>27659762

>different species can't breed with each other
>yes they can
>BBBUT A CAT CAN'T BREED WITH A WHALE

your arms must be tired from moving those goalposts

>>27654104
Oh god that's the Purrloin. I literally forgot about it. I was wondering if it appeared in Gen IV or Gen VI but Gen IV was one with Glameow, so maybe something else... more or less my thought process while reading this talk.

But really Purrloin was so shit I never even considered using it and unlike previous games with Rattata, it wasn't spammed all the time.

I played Gen V 7 times, fuck. Is 25 a normal age for alzheimer?

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I told you guys forms are lazy ass shit and GF sucks ass


You didn't listen

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>>27657165
Can I suck Meowth's dick instead?

>>27662837
Yeah no.
While Alolan Meowth has changed the least the differences beyond a recolor are still there like the reduced limb size and curved whiskers.

>>27653696

>"bu-bu-but muh fire turning ice dosent make biological sense"
>"lol don't use biology to make a reasonable explanation"

Ya dingus

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Why haven't they shown off Alolan Cubone/Persian/Exeggcute? They will exist, right?