so, a sandcastle pokemon... your opinion, /vp/?

Looks like something out of Kirby.

Which is great.

Because I love Kirby!

So a ghost/ground or Fairy ground

>>27649939
Poor Pikachu :(

>>27649939
I'm gonna call mine Mr. Famous. Because everyone else already took DesertMan.

>>27649939
Too spoopy

>>27649956
Fairy? It eat children...

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>>27649989

>>27649939
its fun
so a lot of /vp/ will hate it

>>27649960
Ghost/ground

>>27649989
Found the 10 year old

This absolutely needed another thread

It's pretty neat, wish it had a more sandy texture though.

Literally my mom's sandcastle
thanks Gamefreak you fags

>>27649939
Poor mans golurk.

>>27650039
he never said fairy.

>>27650039
There was this country in Europe that built a highway AROUND a tree because they were afraid to wake up the fairies sleeping inside.

>>27649939
see
>>27649769

>>27650064
IT IS GONNA BE BETTER THAN GOLURK YOU FUCKING AUTIST. IT IS GONNA OUTCLASS GOLURK BY A LONG SHOT MARK MY WORDS IT IS THE BEST DESIGN IN THE ENTIRELY OF GENERATION 7 HOW DARE YOU TO SAY IT IS POOR MAN'S GOLURK YOU AUTISTIC I WILL SLICE YOUR NECK NIGGER

>>27649939
I liked it a lot when I first saw it, all the hate on it really surprised me

Doesn't look like a Pokemon, but it might grow on me.

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Was I the only one to think it was fake at first not because it doesn't look like a pokemon but because of the white background ? I'm so used to corocoro having black/darker background and white/lighter background being used in fake like pic related that I subconsciously associate them.

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>>27650107
>YOU FUCKING AUTIST
look who's talking

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>>27650115
How does it feels like to be so wrong autist?

>>27649939
If it wasn't a ghost type (aka /vp/'s overall favorite type according to several polls) it would instantly be ridiculed as Gen 7's Vanilluxe/Garbodor because "INANIMATE OBJECT POKEMON = BAD LOL".

Instead this board has instantly fallen in love with this thing and would stick their cock in its sandy mouth if it was real because MUH GHOST TYPE.

Same deal with Chandelure, Aegislash and all the ghost types that are based on inanimated objects.

Never change, /vp/.

>>27649939
I love it. Wonder if it's the last evolutionary stage or if it has one more

I like it. It fits to introduce a sandcastle pokemon in a tropical region.

>>27650181

>shitting on Chandelure and Aegislash

eat shit

Nothing is wrong with Vanilluxe or Garbodor either

>>27649939
I understand the concept. I just don't care much for the design. Though I'd have trouble coming up with one myself that wouldn't literally be Muk but with sand.

I like the pre-evo a lot better.

>>27650145
DOESN'T MATTER. IT IS GONNA BE BETTER THAN GOLURK AND YOU WILL REGRET YOUR WORDS. IT IS A POKEMON DESIGN THAT I HAVE LIKED RIGHT UPON SEEING IT IN A LONG TIME. IT IS THE BEST POKEMON

>>27650206
I'm not shitting on Chandelure and Aegislash, just saying that if they weren't ghost types they wouldn't get nearly as much love as they do.

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>>27649939
Beautiful, cunning, and inspiring.

>>27649939
Alolan Grimer and Muk

The idea of a big sandcastle that tries to eat you is a lil fuggin scary tho. It's sorta a classic rpg mimic monster.

>>27650181
This desu.

It's a cute design but nothing remarkable.
Also I find a bit annoying they slapped a ghost type on it because I'm pretty sure there is no myth or legends about possesed sand castles (unlike swords or golems for example).

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>>27650226
who said i was the one who said i liked this better than golurk? autistic faggot

>>27650155
It feels like you're shitposting in two different browsers.

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>>27649939

No

It's a antlion

In the form of a sandcastle

>>27650059
Yes. Just some black dots would do the trick

>>27649939
good idea
bad execution

>>27650317
>who said i was the one who said i liked this better than golurk? autistic faggot
It doesn't matter to me. It is going to be the best new pokemon. It is gonna do amazing in competitive and VGC. Smogongfags will love it. VGCfags will love it. Karenfags will love it. It has the best design out of ALL Pokemon. Go fuck yourself. I will watch you crying while it swweeps your team.
>>27650333
>two different browsers
Prove it.

>>27650354
Really? I actually love it's design.

>>27649939
Why is Pikachu being murdered at the top of the page?

>>27650181
That's the thing though, ghosts possessing an object make sense for the object to still look like the object.

If Vanilluxe was a ghost that possessed a dropped ice cream cone, it would be at least slightly justifiable. Same with a junkyard ghost with a TV head or something.

Instead, while Vanillite was an ice cream cone for camoflage, Vanilluxe is just an ice cream cone "lol because". Garbodor is a pile of living garbage "because mutations or something". There's no justification there for these things to exist. Even the goddamned lawn mower Pokemon is more justifiable than them because it's a ghost.

>>27649939
I honestly love it. It's really silly and fun, and looks very cute. I'm quite a fan of the possessed mons and this one is literally perfect for me.
Definitely getting a spot on my team.

>>27650333
>>27650378
You still haven't proven it yet.

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>>27650378
>go fuck yourself
>i will watch you crying while it swweeps your team
again, i said absolutley nothing about golurk or my opinion on it.

>>27650181
You realise 99% of /vp/ loves Garbodor right

>>27650397
Maybe garbodor lives in junkyards and adapted to blend with the environment.
I don't even like it that much but I can't understand why it gets so much hate

>>27649939
Not a fan of it honestly, Could've been done a lot better than that.

>>27649989
>fap (slang for masturbate)

>>27650181
This. Holy shit,if the castle was just ground it would be only decent, why does /vp/ love ghost type so much anyway?

all i can think of is sandman from marvel and i kinda wish this was actually really scary looking instead of "le-ebin-bait-because-looks-cute".

but knowing this fandom i'm sure someone's gonna give it thematic fanart justice. it looks like it's gonna roar like an ice giant from warcraft too.

so overall, pretty neat. i like how brutal the truth behind the concept is.

>>27649939
>Exeggcute
>Elekid
>Chimecho
>Combee
>Vanillite
>Honedge
>A fucking sand castle

Gamefreak has been creatively bankrupt since f*cking gen 1. I'm not buying this shit.

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>>27650494
Really, how motherfucker, oh wait it can't you fucking frying pan!

>>27649939
Please give it nice stats and ability!

>>27649939
Would be good if the face was cuter.

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>>27650516
>you fucking frying pan!

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>>27650333
Sorry anon, I really just edited the picture.

>>27649939
I don't mind the concept or anything but of all the Pokemon revealed so far this one's official art is easily the most fake-ish one of them all. It just looks so low quality compared to the rest. Maybe when we get the high res official art it'll look better.

>>27650181
We don't hate Vanilluxe/Garbodor because "INANIMATE OBJECT POKEMON = BAD LOL"
we hate them because they have bad designs
and I don't know about others, but I hate this sandcastle

>>27650620
>we hate them because they have bad designs

What's wrong with Garbodor's design?

>>27650141
it was posted on serebii, which implies that the leaks are real

>>27650662
>mouth
>hands
>ponytails

>there's a Pokemon that hypnotisis children and kidnaps them
>there's a ghost Pokemon that spirits children away and loves crying children
>there's a doll Pokemon that hunts down its owner because it was thrown away by its owner
>there's a lamp Pokemon that uses souls as fuel
>there's a balloon Pokemon that kidnaps children
>there are small tree ghost Pokemon that are children
>now there's a sandcastle that eats children
>you can let your children go at an age of 10 so they can explore the world that has all of the mentioned above

Being a parent in the Pokemon world must be a fucking nightmare

>>27650699
If you live in the game world, yeah. If you live in the anime world you'll be fine

>>27650662
Nothing objective but, I too, really hate it because it's just s ugly and asymmetrical. Just an opinion. People who argue their opinion as fact need to stay on /vp/ though, because that's what people do here.

>>27650699
Don't give birth to children then, no one forced you to do so. Real life is even worse.

>>27650699
>tfw your odd child transforms into a fucking Kadabra

>>27650794
Real life has child eating sand castles and lamps that devours souls?

I was not aware of this.

>>27650833
Don't worry about it. Its not like you're ever going to reproduce.

>>27650027
I'm in love with you anon. But wouln't you go with sunayama?

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>>27650778
>asymmetrical

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>>27650302
>STILL liking golem

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>>27650778

>nothing objective

The mouth and eyes are pasted on like stickers. Compare that to Muk whose concept is simple but the art is super detailed. It looks more like a big potato with skittles in it than a pile of garbage. It's one of those shitty designs that's supposed to "represent" what it is rather than actually looking like it.

>>27649939
It's questionable, but compared to the leaked starters this design is godly.

>>27650948
Im so glad those fake starters are, well, fake.

>>27650937
except Muk's eyes look painted over too from the concept art

>>27650397
Garbador is the land pollution to Muk and Weezing's water and air

>>27650620
>We don't hate Vanilluxe/Garbodor because "INANIMATE OBJECT POKEMON = BAD LOL"

Is that why literally every criticism of their designs boils down to "DUDE ICE CREAM AND GARBAGE LMAO"? Don't say "we" like every Vanilluxe/Garbodor hater is as reasonable as you are. I'm not a fan of Vanilluxe or the sandcastle either (Garbodor is breddy gud though) and I get not wanting to be being lumped in with the nostalgia-fueled manchildren who think they get to decide what Pokémon are allowed to be based on, but I don't pretend those idiots don't exist. Most people who hate them do so because they're post-genwun objectmon and you know it.

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>>27649956
pure post

>>27650699
No because if all your Pokemon get defeated against one of them, you just run to a Pokemon center and protect your Pokemon from further harm every time.

>>27650397
Vanilluxe is a stalacite

>>27650699
nah, you just gotta make sure they learn to read and write and get some basic Pokemon information down by the time they graduate preschool and theyre pretty much golden and not your problem anymore.

>at the age of 10
Except people start training pokemon earlier than that, and often dont start until much older.

>>27650302
No but allot of haunted castle stories

>>27650181
REEEEEEE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A HAUNTED HOUSE YOU IDIOT

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE A HAUNTED HOUSE EXCEPT THE GIMMICK IS IT'S A SANDCASTLE INSTEAD OF A NORMAL ONE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>27650397

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>>27650986

The smaller image doesn't show it clearly. Muk's eyes have a brow to give them depth, and are integrated into its curves.

>>27649939
Objectmons aren't my favorite in general - Vanilluxe is trash, Garbodor is okay, Voltorb is meh at best - but this is terrible. Not necessarily because it's an objectmon, but because it's too simple.

Seriously, I hate to sound like a genwunner (Gen 5 was actually my favorite), but Pokemon are more and more toy-like. Bewear is literally just rounded-off cylinders attached together and looks like a goddamn teddy bear, Togedemaru is a ball that occasionally grows spikes, Komala's head is so oversized it looks like a chibi and Rockruff suffers from the same problem, and now there's this Kirby enemy of a Pokemon. They don't look like animals, they look like plush toys. Yes, there were simple toymons in each generation. Gen 1 had Jigglypuff and Seel, Gen 2 had Furret and Sudowoodo, Gen 3 had Makuhuita and Spinda, I can't actually think of anything for Gen 4, Gen 5 had Lillipup, Vanilluxe, and Foonguss, and Gen 6 had Scatterbug, Litleo, Dedenne, and Pancham.

No, I'm not saying these toymons are bad by default - Furret is one of my favorite Normal-types - but you can't deny they look as if they were made to sell plushies of them. The only reason Gen 4 doesn't have any is because it was the pinnacle of "add spikes to it," making everything look less toylike and more edgy. Like I said, being a "toymon" doesn't make it automatically bad, but enough of them make it look like one of those freemium phone knockoffs that try to lure people in with "cute." Gen 7 does have some good designs - El Tigre is the only starter I don't like (please give me an alternate evolution mr leaker), Drampa is GOAT, Mimikyu is wonderful, Oricorio is bretty gud - but honestly, it looks less and less like an official Pokemon game with every 'mon revealed.

Well....

I just have to kill it, right?
no need to train that shit except for a living dex.

so i can get aggressive when i see it and have my absol kill it. easy peasy

>>27650833
Real life has ISIS and child molesters, how's that not worse?
>>27650862
I will never marry or have children because of that and many reasons.

>>27651223
>Objectmons aren't my favorite in general - Vanilluxe is trash, Garbodor is okay, Voltorb is meh at best - but this is terrible. Not necessarily because it's an objectmon, but because it's too simple.

I had to stop reading

>more simple than voltorb

im out

>>27651251

He didn't say it's more simple than Voltorb, he said it's too simple for what it's trying to convey. Voltorb's simplicity is justifiable by its theme, whereas this is just an overly simplistic drawing of what should be a more complex creature.

>>27651233
You can't kill a ghost Pokemon you edgelord.

The only thing I don't like about it is the position of the eyes.

>>27651313
I don't know about you but last time I built a sandcastle it wasn't complex

>>27651333
talk to my hyperbeam, bitch!

>>27651216
Still looks drawn on to me, pal. Only difference is the black line on the top extends past the back of the eye a bit. Otherwise, it's the classic Genwun triangle eye.

>>27651251
Never said that. I said I didn't like it because it was simple, I never said it was simpler than Voltorb. I said I disliked Voltorb, I didn't say anything about how much I liked this relative to Voltorb. Voltorb's not my favorite, but at least I can see where it's coming from - Pokemon's take on the mimic enemy. Amoonguss did it better as something that's clearly an animal but looks like an item, but that's irrelevant to the discussion. This is a sandcastle - a haunted sandcastle, yes, but it's literally nothing BUT sandcastle. Put branches or play tools it's scrounged in its hands for claws, let the arms extend some other direction than straight up so it looks like it's trying to snatch anything that comes near, put the stones in its mouth for teeth, give it a more snaggletoothed and hungry expression than the current D: face, drape seaweed over it for ivy and let parts of it slump away to look ruined - just generally make it look more like a horrifying Ghost-type rather than a normal sandcastle.

I just realized
>try to kick the sandcastle
>you can't, because it's a ghost type
What if
He's the ghost of all kicked sandcastles

>>27651412
I like it, but then it should be more collapsed.

>>27649939
Kinda small tbqh

>>27649939
I would have like if the pre-evolution had a pail on its head, and the sand castle to have a crown.

>>27650770
>Evil Malamar who want to conquer the world in the anime world.
Yeah, real fine there buddy.

I love it. I'm putting this guy on my team for sure.

>>27651401

It's meant to fool people into thinking it's a regular sandcastle. How would it accomplish that if it looked scary?

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>>27650397
>Garbodor is a pile of living garbage "because mutations or something"
Your point being?

>>27651380
>Normal-Type move
>on a Ghost
Typical underage
I hope it learns Drain Punch somehow

Let me try to guess stats and ability...

Arena Trap

115 HP
80 ATK
100 DEF
50 SpA
120 SpD
50 Spe

Defensive/bulky Ground/Ghost would set it apart from Golurk. Looks like a Stallmon to me.

>>27651487
All of Rotom's appliances are bright orange, Drifloon has a cloud on its head and a bright orange X on its face, and Voltorb and Amoonguss are too big to be Pokeballs. People in the Pokemon world are morons. I fail to see the problem. Besides, if it's made of sand, it can't hurt anyone - why not get weapons to do so?

I think this is one that is a great concept, and that we'll have to see it in motion to get a better idea of it. Some of the art this gen has been much more poorly executed than the actual models. Somehow!

>>27649939
it's shit.

>>27649939
it's ok

>>27651522
Let's move 20 from speed to Atk and we're cool.

>Ground/Ghost castle
>It's going to be defensive with Arena Trap and Destiny Bond.
Enjoy your Nuzlocke runs boys.

>>27651549

Drifloon only tries to trick children, which are stupid.
Voltorb doesn't try to fool people in-universe.
Amoonguss dex entry literally acknowledges how ineffective it is:
>They show off their Poké Ball caps to lure prey, but very few Pokémon are fooled by this.

>>27649939
I actually like it

>>27649939
I like it a lot...

>>27649939
It's the best

>>27651549
>if it's made of sand, it can't hurt anyone
It's more or less sentient quicksand and eats people/drains energy
I'm pretty sure that can fuck people up
>weapons
>against SAND

>>27649939
The spade bothers me more than it should. Maybe it's because it's unnatural unlike the sand and the seashells.

>>27651722

It probably picks up common beach items like buckets and shovels to decorate itself

>>27650794
Assuming humans are still humans in pokeworld, our primary purpose is still to reproduce

>>27649939
Another Golurk

>>27649939
>
it's awesome

ps: my first pkm game was red

>>27650397
Lawn mower is not a ghost anymore :^)

>>27649939
I'm going to name it Reichgeist!

>>27649939
I like the little guy at least. The ideas not awful but that final form jist feels a little klunky designwise

>>27652295
It better be a top tier phys and/or spec wall though or else it'll really be a total waste

>>27649939
love it, probably gonna use it

>>27649939
As long as it has a horrifying pokedex entry I'm ok with it.

Like it luring in small pokemon or depending on its size even small children and BURY THEM ALIVE

>>27649939
>literally
>LITERALLY
>L I T E R A L L Y
>just a sandcastle with two dots on it
>people will shit on Gen 5/6 objectmons yet praise this
It's fucking terrible. This is coming from someone who normally loves object-based pokemon. This is just fucking boring. It's just... a sandcastle. That's it. If you erased the two tiny dots it'd just look like a generic image of a sandcastle.

It's not even really that it's a bad design, but it's the absolute bare minimum of what you could even call a pokemon; just a generic object with eyes on it. You could ask a little kid to draw a monster based on an object and in 5 minutes you'd get something more creative than this.

This is, flat-out, the laziest design in all of pokemon, only barely rivaled by Ditto or Voltorb.

>>27652497
>Literally
Oh hey, the genwunners have arrived.

>>27650107
This thing is cool but if you think anything can ever outclass Golurk you're dead wrong

>>27652497
Literally my moms dog etc

>>27652521
>you used the wrong word! now your argument is invalid!
But it's actually, without any hyperbole whatsoever, just a sandcastle with dots.

Maybe if they gave a little bit of a shit and tried to give it a spooky mouth, or maybe make the eyes more detailed than yellow ovals, or fucking anything more than taking a hawaiian-themed object and putting dots on it, it'd be a good design.

>>27650181
You didn't lie. I like the sandcastle but I also like the ice cream and youre dropping all these truths

>>27649939
I like it! It's like this gens Muk. Can't wait to see its animation.

>>27650397
That's the thing though, monsters can be created out of anything. Not all of them have to be something possesed for it to have a justified existance

>>27650343
Do you even know what an antlion looks like

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Boy these new pokemon sure are exciting and unique

>>27650937
You are really deluded by that nostalgia

>>27650937
I love Muk, but you have brain problems

>>27650248
More like diglett and dugtrio

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>>27649939
>>27650017
>>27650394

If you hate the sand castle, you're going to hate the steel/ghost beach umbrella that's coming

>>27650141
those screenshots are from XY

>>27649939
Not Anthropomorphic enough.
Eyes don't look like eyes.
Hands don't look like hands.
I don't hate it.
But it's definitely the least impressive design so far.
At least Bounsweet and Drampa, who I both hate, made me feel an emotion.
This is very meh.

>>27649939
I want to hug the sand castle.

Does it have a cute bucket pre evolution?

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>>27653096

>>27649939
>ground type goes away when hit by a water attack
>sandcastle is washed away and looks like a mushy mound
>ghostly Trapinch pops up out of the sand pile

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>>27652751

Boy these old pokemon sure are exciting and unique

>>27649939
I'm just glad it disproves that shitty Pokedex "leak"

>>27653494
>if you don't like a new pokemon you must love every single gen 1 pokemon
When did I mention gen 1 at all, nigger?
The shittiness of Gen 1 is not an adequate excuse for the shittiness of new pokemon.

>>27649939
It is now my headcanon that those shells on its body originally come from framents of Shellos shell

Why does the fact gen 1 has the best designs trigger people lol. Just accept it haha

>>27649939

I don't have an opinion, I just think what /vp/ tells me to think. It's shit.

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>>27653494
When did pokemon stop looking like monsters and start looking like plush toy products?

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>>27653614
lol

>>27649939
Japanese kids will love it because its very Yokai Watchy

>>27649939
It's a cute little guy at first but evolving into a sandcastle is a little too far into "inanimate object" territory for me.
Maybe if the Dex entry has an explanation like it sees people building sandcastles so it decides to imitate them?
Like some other anon said it really does look like something out of a Kirby game, which is pretty cute. All in all I like it but it feels a little out of place.

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>>27653647
I just don't know

>>27650510
>Doesn't like elekid chimecho or honedge
Kill yourself

>>27653647
When TPCI was formed with precisely that goal in mind.
Merchandise makes more money than any product from the IP. This is the same with all IPs around the world, as TV shows take the role of glorified advs. Pokemon is in the unusual situation where the videogame must advertise the toys so the create things like Meloetta, Keldeo, key chains, etc

>>27649939
It makes sense. I'm guessing it's like some creature that sucks power out of kids who try to smash it or something. It's a lure.

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>>27653647

>>27653778
>/vp/ is whiny about it because they're a bunch of kids that want to knock it down
This Pokemon is a successful bait

>>27651251
You clearly don't understand what anyone is saying here. Go practice your English hombre nobody here wants to spoon feed you.

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>>27649939
I'm pretty confident that it's going to be a tank

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>>27649939
Straight outta Yokai Watch. When did Level 5 take over Game Freak? fuck this shit

So game freak is doing it on purpose cause basically they don't give a fuck about what the players say and keep making pokemon of inanimate objects. I don't mind, really.

>>27650053
Golurk and now this. Ghost/ground confirmed for shittiest combination.

>>27649939
Bulky setup/hazard user. Do we have an ability yet?

>>27654005
Are pokémon based on inanimate objects that universally hated? I thought that was a /vp/ thing only.

>>27653980
you can stop posting in this thread, we know that you don't like it from your other posts

>>27654032
/vp/ and genwunners, mostly

>>27654021
Arena Trap seems likely.

>>27654032
>>27654145
Nah, it's mostly a /v/ and /b/ thing. The genwunners and Charizard-obsessed autists.

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>>27649939
Can we talk about how fucking SCARY this thing is. The top right shows it swalloing a fucking Pikachu.
Thats some nightmare shut

>>27654343
I'm looking forward to seeing its pokedex entries.

>>27649939
Have to see it modeled and animated before I can judge. If it's as sloppy and ploppy as I think it's going to be, I'll probably be fine with it.

>>27649939
Looks like something from yokai watch.

>>27654343
Gen 7 is shaping up to be pretty spooky. First Bewear and Mimikyu, now this sandcastle that eats up Pokemon and children, and then come on. Team Skull? Can't get much spookier than that.

>>27654594
>Team Skull?
Chaw haw haw

Porn when?

I am legitimately challenging someone to make this thing attractive.

>>27654670
>porn
>with sand
oooooh boy

>>27654667
I swear to god, if one of those guys doesn't have a Skuntank I'm gonna be pretty disappointed.

>>27654021

Sandstream

>>27649939
The art looks like shit, but that's been true for a lot of the Alolamons. I'm saving my judgement until the inevitable video showcasing their in game models

"Sunabaa is a grudge that dwells inside a pile of sand turns into a Pokemon. Truly a terrifying creature
Shirodesuna steals the life force from other Pokemon. Those Pokemon's grudges turn into a new Sunaba"

>>27654667
Heh-heh-heh

>>27654837

So you breed new Sunabaas while you defeat other Pokemon ?

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>>27654837
>"Sunabaa is a grudge that dwells inside a pile of sand turns into a Pokemon. Truly a terrifying creature
>Shirodesuna steals the life force from other Pokemon. Those Pokemon's grudges turn into a new Sunaba"

>>27654869
WOA-HO-HO

>>27649939
I love it, ghost is my favorite type, I hope it's bulky as hell, an I have a headcannon that it's possessed by the people who've drowned in alola's ocean.