These are fake, here's why: Starters and evolutions are

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>>27526110

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>>27526110
>Prove me the contrary
Look at all these scrapped Snivy/Oshawott evo concepts.

>>27526110
Just like he changed the girl from the picture right?

>>27526110
just shut up

>>27526110
If your reasoning for something being fake is that it could've possibly changed, you have to admit that these were at one point the designs.

Therefore they cannot be fake even with your logic

>>27526110
not just denial anymore, this is D E L U S I O N

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This post-confirmation denialfagging is so much more entertaining than the one that came before.

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Obligatory

>>27526260
exactly my point, they could be REAL in the past, but FAKE now. Because Sugimori could have changed their design.

>>27526313
>muh generic Hawaiian girl with flower in head

IF you can't just look at the furfake and tell that it can't be a pokemon then you're either retarded or 12 years old

>>27526110
Anon listen, I don't want the Litten evo either. We can hope these are scrapped beta concepts but unless the official reveal shows otherwise, there is no reason to believe these aren't what we're getting.

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>>27526350
Try harder if you're going to bait

>>27526350
>same pigtails
>same cowlick
>same flower
>same outfit
You're retarded. Just because you put "muh" in the opposition doesn't make you automatically correct.

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>>27526327
Just like how Mallow's design was chang- oh wait
lol

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>>27526110
>>27526327
>Sugimori

>>27526350
Find me another generic hawaiian girl with flower on head from any other media that looks as close to that concept art as mallow does.

Shall we tell this guy that the first pokemon ever to be designed was Rhydon and that gen II had around 50 pokemons already designed before it became a concrete thing, but none of those where the starters?

>>27526674

*"but none of those were starters"

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>>27526311
I still enjoyed more when ALL OF A SUDDEN, owl fag =/= roothootfag.

So THEY WERE RIGHT IT WAS AN OWEL.

>>27526110
But it's a concept art for the anime, GF isn't going to give the anime team art for a Pokemon they're not going to use. Do you know how long the animation process takes?

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>>27526395
Don't forget that you can see a kettle on top of baracat, and Mallow has been stated to be a fan of cooking, so seeing her being the one focused on the small kitchen appliance isn't so far-fetch.

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>>27526110

>leggendaries
>accent the wrong way on the é in Pokémon
>better proves
>calling them out as fake when all his points suggest that they aren't fake but they could have been changed during development

okay OP you got me I'm baited

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>>27526350
>this much denial

>>27526110
>Starters and evolutions are the first pokèmons, with the leggendaries, to be created.
Objectively wrong, the first Pokémon created was Rhydon. Rhydon has never been a starter, therefore you are full of shit. Although I do hope they are fake.

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>>27526110
>>27526350

wow you are dumb. how are you even alive?

wow, ANOTHER thread about this shit

>prove me wrong
Reminder greninja was already being saved a spot in smash 4 before it was "greninja"

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>>27526110
Wow this butthurt, you'll be lucky if this turns out to be true

>>27526110
Starter pokemon take 6 months or more to complete so I really fucking doubt that they would change them completely from what is show here

Stop being in denial

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Just accept that they're real and be grateful we didn't get boring shit like this.

>>27526327
Are you retarded?

Do you need to explained what "real" and "fake" means?

Fake...
Real...

What's the point of trying to prove it either way?

We will know in the future regardless.

At this time it's just pointless bickering.

>>27526110
Have we decided if this is just one shit-poster or an entire group of them?

>>27529503
Its multiple people who are capable of figuring out two people being exactly the same, probably is indicative of a leak being authentic.

>>27529451
The grass one is prettier than the one we got but I prefer Luchalitten and Poppmaid

>>27529451
"boring"

>>27529281
>The owl gets into smash 5
Screencap this

>>27529554
You misunderstand. I was asking if the people who are posting these denial thread is actually one person or a group.

>>27526395
>>27526395
>different pigtail splits into 3 on mallow and 2 on tiger3 girl
>you don't know what a fucking cowlick is because neither of them have a cowlick. Their bangs are similar
>Different fucking flower there's no stem from the one in Tiger3
>Tiger3 girl does not have frills or layering in her clothes, also wearing twopiece shirt and shorts, whereas mallow wears frilly one-piece overalls with layers
>no headband
Muh flower girl is Mallow meme really ruined /vp/

>>27529451
Those are all 10,000% better designs.

No.27526110

You: "They can't be real… They just CAN'T BE!"
*runs into the corner and cries*

>>27529729

Thank god you don't work for Game Freak.

You do know they designed samurott 3 months before the game released, right?

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>>27526327
>>27526350

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>>27529808
Yes because this is so superior to that fanart.

>>27529680
Are... are you actually retarded?

Do you not know how different poses work? Do you not have object permanence?

>>27529895

As a design, yes it is.

>>27526110
>"these are fake, here's why..."
>"because i don't like them"

>>27529895
Yeah, it actually does.

>>27529729
the tiger and owl are literally just a horned owl with some leaf motifs and a saber tooth tiger with fire on it. May as well stop calling the series pokemon and call it "angry elemental animals".

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>>27526313
This. If it wasn't for Mallow, I'd be very doubtful.

The thing is to me, the leaks look more like anime concept art more than they do Sugimori-style game art, yet there's the exact same confidential stamp, which seems strange if it's drawn by two different teams.

But how did they get Mallow if it wasn't legit?

>>27529451
why do fakemon always have the worst possible names "tylocaust" are you fucking serious?

>>27529948
Pidgey is literally a bird

>>27530123
exactly, which is why no-one with their life set straight still enjoys early gen designs.

>>27529896
You can see the line separating her shorts from her shirt in Tiger3
You can see the legs of her shorts WITH NO FRILLS in Tiger3

Everything I'm talking about is stuff you should be able to see in both pictures. It's not about object permanence. Object permanence problems would be like I close my laptop and I sigh in relief because that means these shitty fake leaks are gone. But they aren't because object permanence.

Get educated you fucking scrub.

>>27530069
This. I didn't think these were real until the Mallow reveal. I mean since when do the starter evos leak this early, and on fucking 4chan of all places. Sure we occasionally leak shit, but that's usually like a month before the game release at most. Leaks this early usually come from the nip sites. But they have to be real since they got Mallow. Fucking weird.

wait so these arent mid evos?
they look like mid evos to me (except the cat)

>>27529680
>character drawn in micro-scale from far away doesn't have the same level of detail as a close-up shot!
Are you fucking serious?

>>27526313
Yo, Big Litten boiling tea on his dick.

>>27530225
Popplio, Litten and Rowlet all have that level of detail in the same fucking picture you sperg

>>27530159
It's an image from a distance, of course it doesn't have the same level of detail as a close up. That doesn't change the fact that they got the hair right, they got the flower in her hair right, and they got her love of cooking right.

OP, you're a moron.

Putting that aside, that doesn't mean these designs ARE the final ones, they could suffer either small changes to drastic changes. Fuck if we know, they could have already designed the girl much earlier.

I'll be honest, these concept arts feel pretty darn unfinished to me. We're not even entirely sure of Poppmaid's attacks, we just assume she sings (I assume from her standing pose). Besides that, she merely throws off tiny bubbles, which is hardly a attack and does this measly wave motion.

Let me say this...Greninja was chosen to be in Smash 4 waaaaaay before X and Y came out. This art has most likely been around for awhile. Plus all 3 of these are marketable to kids.

>owl appeals to the studious kind. Or those who love stealthy stuff.
Literally showed this to my nephews and they loved it. Said it looked like batman.

>Tiger appeals to those who like strong bulky things. Has kind of a WWE meets Tazmanian Devil look.
Has that red power ranger leader thing going on too.

>Seal appeals to girls. Little mermaid. Yatta yatta.
Ive shown this to a lot of pokegirls in my circle. They love it.

99% sure these are real. Get used to it.

>>27530291
See >>27530290

Quit fucking grasping at straws for these shit-tier designs. They don't even fit with the rest of this generation's designs. They're literally the worst so far and have none of the same atmosphere, for lack of a better term.

>>27529451
>Tylocaust

Oy vey, it's anuddah shoah.

>>27530290
Because starter mons are fucking simplistic designs.
If Rowlet had a hibiscus like Mallow does instead of leaves, there's no way you'd be able to see the stamens.

>>27530325
Quit being a faggot. They are original as fuck. Luchacat, Robinowl, and Sealmaid.

>>27530325
can't wait for the official reveal

>>27526110
>Starters and evolutions are the first pokèmons, with the leggendaries, to be created
You do not know that. First to be revealed =/=first to be designed. It wasn't that case for Gen I, Gen II, or Gen IV, I can guarantee you. Rhydon was the first for Gen I, and both Gen II and Gen IV used cut designs of the previous gens (Gastrodon for Gen IV)

The starter designs MAY be 2 years old, granted. There is no evidence these drawings are two years old. None at all. What you're postulating is that these are early designs, when they could even more likely be finalized.

Also, Mallow's design is the same as her current iteration. When in the design process do you think she was finalized?

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>>27530317
>I like it so its real!

>>27530225
>>27530291
Lmao the distance argument

>>27530153
Gen 1 still has solid designs. Pidgey line is still great. So is Squirtle. You're fucking retarded and making shit up as you go trying to make these real.

>>27530265
It is just heating up, the real meal is coming soon.

>>27530325
You're the one grasping at straws m80. Somebody had better be capping all this for the inevitable reveal. Fucking denialfags never learn.

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>>27530391
>genwunning this hard

Makes sense they got leaked. Whenever you work closely with china shit gets leaked.

Also mallow is a good sign once again. Why not change girl's design but change all 3 starters.

>>27530371
Neither can I. I swear to god I will post Owl3 Tiger3 and Seal3 with a big fat red BTFO. Screencap this shit.

>>27526911
i don't remember this episode

OVAs? second season?

>>27530391
>Lmao the distance argument

I don't see you refuting it.

>>27530429
>I don't know what genwunning is
I never said Gen 1 was the best and everything else was shit. I said it still had solid designs.

>>27530447
I already did. They showed the same level of design on the Litten evo and Rowlet and Popplio. Stop being a dumb faggot and actually read the thread.

>>27526350
joining the "this anon is retarded" reply bandwagon

>>27530490
The starters have very simple designs. Mallow does not. You are retarded.

>>27526110
>>27526134
While its most likly true, the first fucking leak NEVER FUCKING HAD THE [Confidential] IN IT

It was added by some other anon and that version got spread. You can still find the originals without the confidential tag on google. The design of the girl are hard to disproof but the Confidental tag is fucking bull.

>>27526110
Thats true, he had 2 years. Yet nothing has changed because the evos are flawless.

>>27530546
what the fuck are you smoking? it's the exact same stamp as the ones used in the reveal trailer and was never posted without the stamps

>>27526110
>they could have been changed
>this is absolute definitive proof they have been changed and not just you desperately grasping at straws because you don't like them

sure OP, sure

>>27526110
The leaks are anime reference art. As such the design must be 100% finished.

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>>27526110
Sugimuri hasn't drawn the pokemon since gen 5 so fuck off they are real so suck on panthsters dick

>>27530540
>luchatiger
>not overdesigned shit
Lmao

>>27526110

Someone screen cap this shit so we can laugh at this retard when the game comes out

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>>27530540
HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>27530634
This is a simple design? Right, another victim of "it just gets bigger" syndrome, right? Absolutely no detail on here AT ALL

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http://www.strawpoll.me/10908178 you know, im quite curious

>>27530695
Rowlet, Popplio and Litten are the ones with simple designs, you mongoloid.

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>>27530695
Not only are you intentionally missing the point of that anon's post, you are also taking the lack of a details like flower pistils and shirt frills of a small scribble of a character as surefire proof that it isn't the character it resembles, so by all means, please do continue to be a delusional retard so we all can laugh at you.

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>>27526110
>The starters are the first pokemon to be created

He has a point there, guys. After all, we do remember this starter pokemon from the very first gen of pokemon, right?

>>27530637
>le overdesigned maymay

>>27530695
It's a bipedal tiger with a belt. That seems pretty fucking simple to me.

>>27526110
>pokèmons

Stopped reading here
Fuck off

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>No one has said shit about how her description says she's a weird cook and on the picture she's cooking on Litten 3's dick.

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>>27526110
Pokemon's designing philosophy has slowly changed to a more cartoony, simplistic style. So it's different, but not inherently "bad". Although I'm not entirely sold on Litten's evo, I'm going to wait until I see his ingame model and animations. GF already claimed this is what they were aiming for future gens during Gen VI's launch.

Honestly, I think everyone needs to chill out. You don't have to like every starter, or every pokemon. What makes this franchise great is how varied it is, with different monsters that appeal to different types of people. Even if I still don't like Litten's evo when the game comes out, I'm sure there will be kids who'll find the Rudo tiger appealing, and that's enough for me.

>>27526110
who is better pokewaifu, robina hoot or Barbie seal?

>>27526350
>IF you can't just look at the furfake and tell that it can't be a pokemon then you're either retarded or 12 years old

By that logic, Drampa, Bearware and half of Gen 5 arent pokemon
Just accept the fact they dont care anymore

>>27529451
Tylocaust looks generic as fuck, Foresowlt just looks dumb, Plotseajok has a dumb name and an even dumber face

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>>27530951
>people would have wanted a non-bipedal non-fire/fighting fire starter
>it became a bipedal fire/fighting fire starter
>Littenfags are now salty
WOAH WAIT WHAT THE FUKC HIOW COULD THIS BE THIS IS MAGICAL WHO COULD HAVE FUCKING GUESSED?!?11
Considering your ignorant state, you don't realy give a shit about why the others are angry but instead just want others to stop being angry, regardless of their hopes and wishes.
You are the absolute cancer, I would prefer to stand next to a smelly, whiny littenfag than to a libcuck-like faggot like you

>>27531072
>complains about Plot's name but not about Tylocaust
I agree with the "Fuck me" eyes of Plot though, he looks gay

>>27531135
>implying it's fire/fighting
>not fire/dark

You people are really this gullible?
I didn't believed it would get this far... Yes, I made this, and posted them in 4ch but didn't expected it to be taken seriously.

Don't you believe me? lets start with the rowlet evo.
If you look at the pose, it is roughly the same as Tranquill, one wing held out.
Another similitude with Taillow is the face, look closely, they have that same 'shape'.
And third, I copied Swadloon, and then changed it to look different, and changed the Swadloon antenna for a feather.
The feet and lower body were inspired by aerodactyls feet, except i changed them to look more feathery

Now, let's move on to the litten evo. It was based on Machoke, if you look closely, both have the same body type. I made the arms and legs thinner tho.
Second, it has some sort of fluff coming out of its cheeks, kinda like Delphox.
And third, I copied the feet and tail from persian, but changed them a little bit and straightened the tail.

Finally, popplio final evo. It was made to resemble Florges, look at its lower body, the evo's lower body is really florges body, then I proceeded to erase Florge's leafs.
Second, the slender body and girly face were made to resemble Mienshaos face.
And finally, mienshao's strange arms were the inspiration for popplio final evo's fins, and the 'bra' and hair was inspired by florge.

The point of this is, get over it, they are fake.

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>>27531171
>wrestler
>Dark
>that chink "leaker" also got Vulpix type wrong
You do believe everything given to you, right? If I would draw a spoon in the style of the leaks and add the Confidential stamp to it, would you also believe that a spoon will be a new pokemon?

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>>27531135
I know why they are salty, I'm saying it's pointless to get angry over such a retarded triviality. If a typing is enough to set you off, then you don't really care about the design at all.

>libcuck
Are you one of those severely mentally-ill people that tie everything into politics?

>>27531221
>heel
>entire shtick is fighting dirty
>not a dark type

>>27531221
not the same leak asswipe

>Prove me the contrary
I want spics off my board.

>>27531221
Dumb KLK neckbeard

>>27531135
I don't get how people with severe anger issues over children's video games think they have a moral standing to call other people "cancer".

>>27531195
nice try at copypasta faggot.

>>27531230
I wrote libcuck-like. In case you havent noticed, they have been very active in videogame "debates" as of late and all follow this same ignorant pattern.
The starter is probably the most important thing in any of pokemon for a lot of people. If the starter ends up dissapointing, then yeah people will be angry about it. And the Fire/Fighting typing is just the icing on the shit flavoured ice-cream. Delphox was a welcomed addition because it wasnt Fire/Fighting. Fire/Fighting is the most boring type combination nowadays since more than half of the fucking fire starters are exactly that.

>>27531328
I dont think 4chan is for you, try Facebook next time

>>27531503
>STILL saying it's fire/fighting

see >>27531253

>>27530441
Yes it's from the OVA.

It was a pretty funny episode.

>>27529451
Grass one is da bomb, tiger one is at least quadruped and non-fighting type looking so it's k, water is absolute garbage just like Popplio.

>>27531503
>>27531503
Water has this same problem with Mono-Waters. Can you tell me why is one considered a problem but the other isn't?

Is it repetitive? Maybe. Is it seriously enough to completely disregard a design simply because it doesn't follow your typing criteria? No.

>>27526350
you must be Egyptian because you're in de nile

>>27531503
>In case you havent noticed, they have been very active in videogame "debates" as of late and all follow this same ignorant pattern.

You are one of those mentally-ill individuals.

This may be a bait, but the amount of people in denial is amazing.
Being a pseudoskeptic makes you look lika an idiot, just like if you were an easy gullible person.

holy fuck, I love these threads. retards and people pretending to be retards baiting kids never get's old
btw, has the "it isn't mallow because the miniature version is lacking xxx" crowd said anything about mini ash and his differences with normal ash art?

>>27531814
Of course they fucking haven't

>>27531540
there is no indication of it being a Heel since even Faces can be angry fuckers (Randy Orton for example although I prefer Heel Orton) and a dominant outerior isnt Heel-exclusive either.
>b-but the door slam to poor Pikachu
That looks more like a table.
Tables are even used by face Wrestlers (Dudleys) as weapons even if they arent allowed

And even if he was a Heel, the Face/Heel dynamic is just a subplot to a wrestler that can change at any given time. What doesnt change (unless they get fired or injured) is their fighting. So Fire/Fighting it is. It would be pretty stupid to have a wrestling themed pokemon and not give it Fighting or /Fighting as an element.

>>27531677
Stay ignorant, lib cuck

>>27531656
Again, my issue with the WWETiger is the fucking design, he looks like a fucking generic side character from a fucking saturday morning cartoon. For some reason everyone here assumes my main issue is the typing which it isnt, its just the drop of water that makes the bucket spill.

And the idea of a sub-element to a starter pokemon is to make it diverse, to make it more interesting. Every starter is either FIRE, GRAS or WATER and this is to be expected, but if every FIRE starter ends up as FiRE/FIGHTING, is that realy interesting?

I'm gonna be in denial until it's officially released. I refuse to believe that shitty mermaid is the water starter

It's the Scolipede faggot. Stop responding to him.

>>27531841
>there is no indication of it being a Heel since even Faces can be angry fuckers (Randy Orton for example although I prefer Heel Orton) and a dominant outerior isnt Heel-exclusive either.
>>b-but the door slam to poor Pikachu
>That looks more like a table.
>Tables are even used by face Wrestlers (Dudleys) as weapons even if they arent allowed
He's literally using Asian Green Mist

>>27531841
Stay paranoid and fucked in the head, /pol/-tard

>>27531841
Dude, Sugimori or Masuda tweeted out a hint on the starters talking about "Tiger Mask," A famous heel wrestler.

>>27531887
>If you arent one of my progressive cuck friends, YOU MUST BE A NAZI!!
Now you are just being stupid

>>27529729
>wanting "they just get bigger" evolutions
Fucking neck yourself, you heinous smegma knight

>>27530093
This desu famalam
They're always so shit

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>Cat is probably fake
>Damning evidence of Mallow being present says otherwise

>>27526110
>in 2 years the designs could have changed entirely
And these images could be the latest versions, with there being some different ones from 2 years ago.

If they've changed since the originals, why would the Chinese translators have the older versions?

Fuck you. El Tigre is the best starter.

>>27532718
the leak did say ninetails was going to be fire/fairy(or something like that), and it turned out ice/fairy.
so it is possible that the info in the leak is a little outdated.
they could be real, and they could also be outdated designs.

>>27532854
Like many on the past, it's common for "legit" leaks to contain falsehoods in order to keep GF/TPC/Nintendo off of their back. Mind you back in fifth gen GF sent out Cease and Desists to places hosting leaked info.

>>27531923
>if you don't agree with me, you are a libcuck

Follow your own advice, imbecile.

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Samurott was designed only a couple months before black and white release

>>27531195
And the girl with the flower in her head was made to resemble the girl who was going to be revealed more than a month later in a trailer?

Shut up.

If mallow was in robinhoot's pic rather than the wrestlercat's I wonder if people would try to claim only one or two of them are real purely because they dislike the cat.

>>27531135
I would have been pretty disappointed if it were quadrupedal. Still hoping it's Fire/Dark, though.

I really hope these are fake. Confirmedfags are some of the most obnoxious cunts I have ever seen. I can't imagine how much worse they will get when they are actually confirmed.

>>27533169
Why am I not surprised

>>27533836
Because the designer said he had no idea what to do so he went to the zoo and saw a giant sea otter. I still don't know why he didn't make it biped though.

>>27529451
I love those. Wish we had got something like that. :(

>>27529451
If by boring you mean "Fire starter is hundreds of times better than what we actually got", sure.

>>27526110
What confuses me about this leak is I've never seen it before it was deemed "confirmed". How long was this picture on the internet, anyway?

>>27534362
Early June or sooner

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>>27529461

>We will know in the future regardless

>>27526110
The same song and dance happened when the gen 5 starter evos leaked. Just accept it and move on

>>27526110
Here's how I can prove you wrong.

That is anime art, and they don't start working on the anime art until the game designs are officially decided.

Stay BTFO denialfag

>>27534727
>Here's how I can prove you wrong.
>That is anime art, and they don't start working on the anime art until the game designs are officially decided.
Okay, and how do you know it is anime art?

>>27534452
Litteraly a 9gag maymay fuck off summer

>>27526110
>the designs COULD HAVE been changed, therefore these are fake

No? It's possible they have changed since these were created but it's unlikely. Mallow's design was already finalized when these were finished.

>>27526110
>this strictly circumstantial vague POSSIBILITY proves my headcanon as absolute CERTAINTY in spite of all unlikelihood or improbability
are you actually retarded?

>>27534362
Were you not on /vp/ when everyone was spamming it and we had threads filled with disarming voice spam?

>>27534765
>ash fucking ketchum right next to mallow

>>27535069
Yes, and?

>>27535125
When was ash seen in the games?

>>27535132
When we get ash Greninja in Sun and Moon.

>>27535132
>You must know you can change the clothes to your Trainer

>>27526911
>Mallow is a Grass Pokemon trainer
>No Rowlet in sight

>>27535215
Are you fucking blind? There's a rowlet on Tiger3's fucking chest.

>No headband

Look at her fucking head. There's a line across her hair you retard.

Its a low detail sketch. Of course it lacks certain frills, it's still pretty much her.

>>27535215
Get your eyesight checked anon.

>>27535038
No, I'm usually not on /vp/.

how can you still be in denial

the most you're going to get is the potential that this is really early concept art and the designs aren't finalized (and really it looks more like concept art rather than a design sheet)

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>>27532854
its more likely that the leaker just fucked up. i dont know why people are so much in denial or hope that gamefreak somehow changed the designs 2 months before release. chink probably had a brain fart and put fire instead of ice. that shit can and does happen to everyone. remember when we officially had TWO male trainers? rosa was a boy until they changed their mistake. didnt stop the trap porn though, and for that im glad