I don't want to sound like a Genwunner, but why did they

both of those look like shit

>>27501639
Cool story, grandpa.

>>27501639
Gen 7 seems to be going the sinpler route, so that may sate you. Pokémon have been heavily "overdesigned" since gen 3 though.

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>Pokemon happen to have color patterns and vague semblances of spikes or some shit
>WAAAHHHH OVERDESIGNED MY AUTISM CANNOT HANDLE MORE THAN 2 COLORS ON A PALLET OR I LOSE MY MIND

Pokemon has literally never yielded an overdesigned model yet. That, or you do not know what Overdesigned means.

>>27501672
>Gen 7
>simpler designs

Yeah, simpler than gen 6. But its not even close to the same syle as the sinplicity of gens 1 and 2.

>>27501639
I don't think it's overdesigned. Complex and simple designs appear in all generations. The problem is all new pokemon looking made of plastic.

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>>27501639
Hey don't worry about sounding like a genwunner.
genwun is best gen.

>>27501709
I mean, Mudsdale is literally my mom's cleidsdale with mud.

>>27501709
Because Pokemon don't have to be a single static sprite any more.

>>27501857
Exactly. Gen 1 and 2 Pokemon were simple because there was a huge limitation on the amount of detail a sprite could have before it became a muddled mess.

Higher resolution sprites became a thing, so designers were free to add more detail to their ideas, and create more complicated monsters.

This is truer than ever with the advent of 3D Pokemon games. There's pretty much no limit to what can be done now, so they're going wild with it. I personally don't mind, it's exciting!

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It's not about the overdesign for me, but about how the design style shifted to being more like, "rounded" I guess? Gen 1 had very sharp looking mons.

I dunno, anyone else feeling it? Pic related for example. Something about Zorua's design doesn't feel as "tight", but I can't put my finger on it.

>>27501684
Gear Chronicle a shit

>>27501639
Because the original GameBoy and GameBoy Color had very limited pallette support, they were not able to make Pokémon with complex pattern designs until the GameBoy Advance came out. Even though the GBA would support true-type bitmaps, they had to save flash space and still used indexed bitmaps. The DS games are the first Pokémon games with true-color textures.

>>27501770
>Five eggs
>Three magnets
>Three diglets
>A three-headed doduo
>A two-headed koffing
>A Pokeball
>Another Pokeball

>>27501639

The reason why both of these look like shit is because you don't know how to combine colors properly

>>27501770
these will never not make me laugh
also still can't unsee Togekiss watching Doduo poop instead of Hitmonchan

>>27501917
It looks like a toy, meanwhile Vulpix looks like an animal. Is the art-style, not the designs themselves.

>>27502040
Gen 1 Pikachu looks like a shitty keychain desu

>>27501937
Vanguard a shit

literally a game for autists

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>>27501684
>>27501937
Gear Chronicle is great. Kill yourself

>>27502076
>autists
I don't think that word means what you think it means.

>>27501639
These both look like shit. A better example would be comparing Charizard to it's mega forms which has updated artwork.

>>27502040

This. I love all Pokemon, but I acknowledge there has been a pretty radical shift in the aim of the design. I'm not going to say that all Pokemon look kawaii now, but I think there's been more attention paid to keeping the designs uniform and consistent with regards to things like eyes and mouths or types of fur.

I hate the idea of going backwards though, I'd love to see an evolution of the old school Sugimori style for the modern times, I think we've seen hints towards it in some Pokemon and it'd really please all fans to see more.

>>27501917
so if vulpix had the tail fluff also as a scarf it would be overdesigned?

>>27502175
I clearly said it WASN'T about being over-designed you illiterate teenager.

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>>27502040
Looks like a toy to me

>>27501639
Pokemon weren't designed like they are now because the fucking gameboy literally couldn't support a lot of the current designs. The only reason they were simpler was because of hardware limitations.

>>27501857
Exactly.

>>27502228

Most Pokemon were designed outside of the platform, the designs weren't simplified because of the hardware - go look at Tajiri and Sugimori's earliest art for Pokemon.

>>27501917
As larger head and eye, as more kawaii.

>>27502022
You forgot
>slime
>bigger slime
>bird
>so many birds
>snake backwards
>dog
>chewing gum
>black girl
and as always with genwun
>it just gets bigger

>>27501770
Man those sprites were hideous now we just need to post the back sprites and we'll have the full package of ugliness.

>>27501917
Cartoon style for plastic toys.

>>27502174
>I'd love to see an evolution of the old school Sugimori style for the modern times
*devolution

>it'd really please all fans to see more
Speak for yourself.

>>27502022
>>27502486
All of them iconic.

Off you fuck OP. We don't want any of your bullshit here. Go back to your boring bland recolored animals who are literally my mums recolored pets.

>>27501709
nigga, there's probably just as many gen 7 pokemon that could fit into gens 1-3 as there are pokemon that couldn't.

>>27502592
>All of them iconic.
I think you mean Pikachu, the starters, and Mewtwo. Genwunners throw the words "iconic" and "important" around when discussing the first generation as if it were a holy book, when in reality, people only remember the ones I just listed unless they are actually playing a pokemon game currently. Pokemon GO is the only reason the genwun shitters are even relevant. It's the trend. You can delude yourself into thinking that Muk or Electrode is iconic, but they aren't. It's fucking Pikachu mainly. then Charizard and Mewtwo, then the other two starters. That's it.

>>27501857
>>27501898
Not necessary.
See Gyarados.

>>27502076
Says the guy posting on a board about IV breeding.

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>>27502575
Here you go famalam

>>27501639
Different designers. Ken Sugimori wound up drawing all of the first two gens final designs so they got filtered through his own interpretations. That's a good demonstrative picture because the Garchomp looks like Sugimori's water color art.

>>27501672
>Gen 7 seems to be going the sinpler route

In what way, dumb tripfag? Most of the Pokemon shown so far still look like Neopets.

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>>27501770
>Pocket Monsters looked like monsters

I get it now.

>>27501639
GenWONner*
Don't need to thank me for correcting you.

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>>27503248
The original name of the franchise was going to be Capsule Monsters, since the pokemon looked like vending machine toys.

That's why a pokeball is colored the way it is, and why it physically split into two different pieces in its earliest appearances.

>>27501857
>>27501898
>>27502234
Do you wanna some counterexamples? OK.
>Gyarados/Salamence
You can see all the details of Gyarados on its RB sprite. And if later they got more tecnology to draw more details, why didn't they draw good wings for salamence? It's a piece of red paper.
>Persian/Delcatty
You can see Persian claws in any of its gen 1 sprites. Now look at Delcatty feet.

>>27503310
Because Delcatty isn't the kind of cat that would have its claws out all the time.

>>27501639
I would use the shit out of that Garchomp version.

>>27501709
>sinplicity of gens 1 and 2.

You mean the generations remembered for a couple of good designs, because the rest are boring uninspired garbage?

>>27501709

Gen 6 Pokemon are simple as fuck. Only Hoopa Unbound and maybe Chesnaught are
complex.

>>27503673
The point anon, is that Delcatty literally have no feet, it is just a leg.

>>27501639
Why does that Garchomp have unnecessary fins on its arms? It's over-designed garbage.

>>27501639
But anon, gen 2's designs are the worst in the franchise.

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>>27503832
Yes, so do lots of pokemon. Nobody cares about your foot fetish.

>>27501709
are you retarded?

>>27503928
>fetish
Say whatever you want, I proved my point.
Technology for better sprites has nothing to do with details.

>>27503171
God, I'd almost forgotten how awful Charmeleon's battle sprite was. All the other starters looked fine, how did they manage to fuck him up that bad?

First gen details were an enrichment to complete the design. Later, details become a way trying to male Pokémon more cool. But they looks like shit on me. Im not saying later gens are totally bad, i like a lot of mon. However the art style become more simple, rounded and childish. For example tangela in gen 6 would have been an indistinct Bush. Female oriented maybe.

>>27502173
>>27501651
this is the undeniable truth

>>27503972
no, he is just right.
any kid like you who grew up starting with gens 3, 4 or later wants pokemon to be Super hyper Mega Awesome XD cool with a lot of features and whatever.
Who grew up with gens 1 or 2 call that the difference between pokemon and digimon.

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>>27504225
Yep, and pokemon never stopped being pokemon.

>>27504225
then tell me why pokemon from gen 3 onwards look like digimon
pretty much all your arguments that say that will be easely countered

>>27504290
pheraps not gen 3, but gen 4
gen 3 is literally the gen that was almost the better one, but they forgot how to draw details, instead we got lame unfinished designs

>>27504314
good job dodging the question, you really don't have a argument to prove your point, do you?

>>27504387
genesect
there.

>>27504257
Oh man, I remember this. I think I owned this magazine.

What was it?

>>27504398
a ancient pokemon genetically modified to be a living weapon.
the same thing as mewtow

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>>27504314
>pokemon look like Digimon now
>the artists forgot how to draw details
>the designs look unfinished

>they look like Digimon

>>27504398
>not heavily anthropomorphic
>not highly detailed
>not wearing a ton of accessories
>not wearing clothes/armor
not a digimon
Granted it looks like some robot Team Rocket might have built in the anime rather than a full on pokemon but still.
Also Chesnaught is the most digimon poke, he looks like he digivolves from Armadillomon.

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>>27501917
Why the fuck do people act like Pokemon have never had kawaii uguu faces before? What the fuck is jigglypuff supposed to be?

>>27501639
Gen 1 Garchomp doesn't look as cool as Gen 4 Garchomp.

>>27504461
I don't see any cannon on mewtwo
I see on metal-greymon

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>>27504225
>>27504290

For comparison. I apologize if I missed something, but I don't know many Digimon. I will say that Orky tyranosaurus thing is pretty cool.

>>27504474
agumon is also a digimon
it's called cherrypicking what are you doing

>>27504596
Don't say shit about Aggron, and some digimon are okay

>>27504596
Aggron here looks a lot more fat than the other two and has those shoulder things.

Vikavolt isn't a fucking bipedal.

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>>27504625

>>27504666
thanks anon, you spared me the job of looking for an agumon image on google

>>27504596
what the fuck, those look nothing alike
in any case, Pinsir looks closer to that than fucking Vikavolt

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>>27504594
So blastoise is a digimon now.

>>27504635
I just grabbed a few Pokemon, then tried to find similarish Digimon to point out how unalike they are, one from third gen and one brand new.

>>27504644
It was the closest beetle I could find.

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>>27504737
it's not made of steel, not inorganic
blastoise is actually a good point on the pokemon/digimon differences
a tortoise with cannons, nothing else
not even wartortle details
not plasma lasers whatever

also, here more digimon-looks like:
>legendary genies
>druddigon
>emboar is literally a digimon frontier partner

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>>27501639
The shift in design ethic is a result of two factors:
1. Newer technology allows for more detail in spirtes/models
2. Mascot Syndrome: things designed to be cute drawn with more simplistic shapes and exaggerated anatomy to make merchandise more appealing.
pic related

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A few more side-by side comparisons.

>>27504909
Bro pokemon has had inorganic pokemon since gen 1 and steel type since gen 2, it's time to let it go.
None of those have near the level of detail and extra shit tacked on digimon have. Hell, the genies wouldn't be too out of place in a Mario game.

>>27501639
>overdesign
If anything, I'm grateful that they're not uninspired and bland like gen 1's pokemon.

>>27505026
I miss fat Pikachu.

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>>27504909
How are any of those ones you named even like digimon? They don't even meet your own requirements.

>>27505026
I remember Hamtaro! God that 2011 one looks weird, though.

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>>27504909
but digimon frontier protags doesn't have partners.
and what i meant is they're not digimon lookalikes.
what with people think that a game series with monster collecting mechanics need to have always have similar desings.
i mean look a smt they have deisngs like jack frost who is cute and simple while having at the same time fucked upi desings pisaca and satan

>>27505070
Fat pikachu didn't look like he could even move. Fucker doesn't even have a neck!

>>27505036
>either organic or inorganic
not both at the same time
>and steel type
not steel warrior armor
>>27505066
and here's someone who would prefer digimon

>>27505079
Cocaine is a hell of a drug

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>>27505109
here is the image of a pisaca for reference

>>27501709
>Gen VII is not as simplistic as Gens I and II
That is a good thing. Many of the designs in the first two gens are just generic animals with horns or other things slapped onto them. I for one wouldn't want to have another Persian or another Remoraid.

>>27505077
see >>27504666, that anon was cool and gave me an agumon image
>requirements
not a digimon/pokemon looks like the same, I'm just pointing some differences

>>27504596
Honestly they look nothing alike.

If you want to grasp at straws and say some pokemon look like digimon then honestly the only ones that barely resemble digimon are White Kyurem and Black Kyurem, and even then it's a stretch because digimon are overdesigned nightmares most of the time.

>>27505033
>Aurorus is on the same level of complexity as DORUGreymon

Nigga what

>>27505197
But the pokemon you listed don't look anything like that Agumon. They don't have the heavy shading, the bulging veins, the jagged teeth, or even the eyes like a digimon.

>>27504474
This design would be moderately acceptable were it not for the crotch eye.

>>27505281
druddigon

>fat pikachu never again
Why live

>>27505281
>heavy shading
this is just artist's style

>>27505270
I just put them side-by side because they kinda-sorta look similar. It is up to you to decide anything else.

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>>27505317

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Ah yes, an excellent pasta. Mmmh-ooou! Yeeehhhhs~

That ancient crust, the mouuuldy sauwszce-uh!

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>>27505363
You guys do know that both series has variety on the complexity of design in each monster

>>27505405
That one still looks more complex than Metagross or Registeel.

>>27505440
that's the point on "variety on the complexity"

>>27505348
They really don't look similar at all, though. What are you even going on about?

Aurorus has fin-like sails on its back. DORUGreymon has a pair of dragon wings.

>>27505036
just compare Steelix and Mega Steelix
>Steelix is just an Iron Snake
>Mega Steelix, well....
it's one of the reasons that kids in this board call gen 1 and 2 design boring

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>>27503310
Shelgon was a dragon that literally wasn't meant to fly and forced itself through sheer determination to grow a pair of wings just to realize the dream of flying it harbored since it was but a wee Bagon. The simple wings are enough to satisfy Salamence.

Delcatty isn't a cat that likes battling, it prefers to fucking run rather than fight. Why would you put claws on something that will never use them? It doesn't even learn claw based moves like Fury Swipes or TMs like Shadow Claw.

>>27505701
>Shelgon was a dragon that literally wasn't meant to fly
TOP FUCKING KEK.
there are so many wrong thing that I didn't know were to start
>Shelgon is a pupa stage
>Almost every Bagon Pokedex informations says that was bagon dream to fly
holy shit, butterfree also went through a pupa stage and have good designed wings
I had to stop reading there. Sorry anon.

>>27505701
also, charmeleon naver had a pupa stage and have good wings

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I like that there are people who think Pokemon have too many details now and people who think Pokemon aren't detailed enough anymore.

did anyone say bc they were boring?

bc they were boring

>>27505868
>cherrypicking
gen 1 also had Mr. mime

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>>27505868
Jesus why are pokemon so shit now?

Remember when pokemon looked great like pic related?

>>27505824
Salamance has best wings because they are Devilman's. And as parents who hated pokemon in the 90s taught us, pokemon are the devil.

People who don't like Gen 1 is because they are jealous of the attention it gets in comparison to their own personal favourite gen. Prove me wrong.

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>>27506167

>>27506183
It's the exact opposite: genwunners only hate later gens because they see all the people playing and having fun and feel jealous that they weren't there.

>>27506230
>having fun this gen

>>27504564
A balloon

>>27506183
you're right.
>>27506230
you're wrong
where is pokemon go with your favorite gen?

>>27506183
>No abilities
>No weather
>No physical and special attack shift that deutted in Gen 4, meaning you had to rely on stupid pokemon type based attack type.
>No double battles
>Single quick item select, and not multi quick item select.
>Game doesn't ask if you want to reuse a repel once it wears off.
>No berry planting.
>No mega Pokemon
It misses out on what other generations introduced.

Is the point that the regular Garchomp looks infinitely better than that garbage?

>>27502486
That's not slime. That's a pile of shit

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>>27506230
Not there? Nigga I've been playing since gen 1, was 9 years old. Played every title since then. You gen 4+ babbies are just bitter because

>ywn experience the golden age that was 98-2000 pokemania
>you were born too late

Stay mad you furry fucks

>>27505026
I miss ugly ass choppa
I guess it makes sense him having a bigger head now since it is technically his brain form but whatever

>>27506699
>how good a game is depends on mass popularity
stop false flagging, faggot

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Reminder that Pokemon is a big, laughable cartoony mistake now,.

>>27506907
Everything on the right is objectively better though.

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We have literal new gen versions of Gen 1 Pokemon now. and they're not bad at all

>>27507133
And it looks better than the bland as shit gen 1 design!

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>>27506907

>>27503290
Capumon

I dig it

>>27507186
shit taste

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>>27506960
>objectively

>>27501639
It's not that Pokemon are over designed, it's that gen 1 and 2 have such stupid simple designs that gen 3 onward look like they're overdoing it by comparison.

Just remember: gen 2's designs are ass and you should probably kill yourself for perpetuating the overdesigned meme

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>>27502850
>That's it.

>jigglypuff
>magikarp
>eevee
>snorlax
>slowpoke
>not iconic
All those trascended outside the pokemon community, be it memes, insults or crossovers.

>meowth
>butterfree
>lapras
>psyduck
>onix
All remembered because of the original anime.

>jynx
>porygon
>snake backwards
Infamous

Digglet, magnezone, voltrob, muk exeggcute and ditto have always had a presence for being dumb concepts made pokemons and some, plus minor memes like digglet legs and cum.

As for gen 1 in general, even before pokemon go, normal people could recognize them as pokemons. No one outside the pokemon community has any idea what gen 4-7 pokemons look like, and only 3 gen III-VI pokemon managed to get a level of presence outisde of pokemon that could somewhat rival gen 1 pokemon, and pretty much just internet only: greninja, mudkip and gardevoir.

Rage all you want about nostalgiafags and normalfags not caring about anything past gen 2, you are still a deluded idiot, blinded by its own fanboyism. Gen 1 will always be the most and pretty much only iconic pokemon, it's just the way it is.

>>27507244
mad nostalgiatard

>>27501770

These were from Pokemon Yellow.

Yellow was horseshit, Red and Blue were GOAT for sprites, though.

>>27507532
>not iconic
They aren't.

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>>27507621
acually no these were from the japanese version of the original red and green.
acually the pokmeon yellow sprites were the best of the gen 1 games

>>27501770

Butterfree looks better than original Red/Blue sprite.... Parasect does too... maybe Fearow, maybe Goldeen and maybe Dewgong...literally every single one of the rest are worse and make me want to kill myself.

>>27502683
>you're not allowed to have a different opinion!
Nice hugbox m8

What bugs me most about pokemon designs is dramatic differences in quality between different ones, especially within the same generation
Some pokemon are conceptually fine but end up looking like scribbles from a totally different artist

>>27507706

I still prefer the USA version red/blue sprites the best because of their non-uniform, more stylistically crazy style, but touche on being right about those not being Yellow, I could've sworn they were.

>>27507658
Good argument you have there

>>27506183

Nobody dislikes Gen 1. It started it all and everyone appreciates it for what it was. However, that doesn't mean we have to constantly suck Gen 1's dick like genwunners love to do. It was good, but it was also lacking.

>>27501770
>looks at mew
>spits out drink

>>27506907

But both sides look cartoony. They're just the products of a different era.

>>27503730
>You mean the generations remembered for a couple of good designs, because the rest are boring uninspired garbage?
That would be gen 5.

>>27507186

This is a man who puts ketchup on his hot dog and nothing else.

>>27505026
This person gets it. It's a different style that has evolved with the generations of kids.

>>27506907
I genuinely feel sorry for anyone that defends the ones on the right.
Bless their poor hearts.

>>27507773
It might have something to do with different artists.

>>27507879
I don't eat hot dogs, scum.

>>27506907
Everything on the right is more rounded, fitting with a shape motif rather than muscle and bone.
They appear more like bouncy cartoons with barely any fur or rough edges.
It might be because of the jump to 3D and GF can't into 3D modelling.

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>>27506960
>mfw i read this post

>>27507899
>kids
That may be another factor. Pokémon has gotten in trouble for having mature themes, so the style now follows suit with their demographic.
Things have to look more "kiddy" to appeal to "kids"
They do sneak some jokes here and there and some backstories are kinda morbid.

They should just let Atsuko Nishida design all pokemon desu.

She gets it right 100% of the time.

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>>27506907
Though the artstyle's gotten worse, the actual designs are pretty strong for the most part. While Rapidash is a more generic-looking horse on fire, Mudsdale has some really cool patterns and shapes on him, I especially like the thicker fur around the eyes.

Farfetch'd is superior or equal to most Oricorio formes, except the flamenco one.

>>27506907
Gen 1's designs are too plain/uninspired with dull color palettes.

It exactly coordinates with the game graphics you know. The reason G1 and G2 pokes are so bland is because they had to translate them to tiny pixelated sprites. That's why even legendaries like Lugia and HoOh were relatively undetailed.
In RSE Pokemon was basically at SNES level and they could make the pokes more detailed and still depict most of it in the sprites.
Now we have full blown polygon rendered 3D models that can represent accurately every little detail the concept artists can add.
Just like with games of other genres, the technology allows for better looking character designs.
It's neat how Pokemon illustrates that concept so well ahaha.

>>27501639
The only reason the early designs were simpler is because they had to make them work in a fucking game boy, with few pixels, in black and white. There was no choice.
As the consoles became more advances, designs were allowed to be more complex.
As the

>>27501639
Even though you're asking a rational question, you're probably not going to get a rational answer. Yes, Pokemon designs have changed over the past two decades. Yes, there are common elements that can be cataloged in each generation of Pokemon.
The autism of the Pokemon fanbase is simply too strong to discuss this shit.

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>>27502022
>he judges pokemon on just the design and not the purpose or idea

>>27507907
t. genwunner

>>27508130
>ponyta being comparable to that wretched shit
>actual mantis shittier than a flower
>grandpa is better than a cute dragon
>seel being compared to a fucking clown seel
>rapidash isn't better than nigger horse with gym wear
shit taste

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Quit being faggots, all of you.

>>27508694
>>27508680

>>27508717
Scyther is one of my favorite pokes of all time but I gotta admit that I sorta like mantis girl a bit more.
Also Rapidash equal to Shitbiscuit?
You lost credibility.

>>27508642
yeah man a bunch of eggs is such an amazing idea.

>>27508788

I put Shitbiscuit as equal to Rapidash because it's an at least somewhat acceptbaly creative way to display a fire-inspired horselike creature other than the obvious way, which would just be a Rapidash. Points for trying, you could say.

>>27508694
ponyta=boring
scyther doesn't look like a mantis
dragonite is a joke
seel forgettable
rapidash is "it gets bigger" shit

>>27508841

Fug, meant elemental-inspired in general, not fire.

I like that people who like the modern gens get excited and play the games and have a good time. And the other people are disatisfied crybabies.

The new pokemon aren't replacing your old ones. They're still there.

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>>27508853

>Scyther doesn't look like a mantis

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>>27508795
Your autism is flaring again.

>>27508921
Scyther looks nothing like that.

>>27509131
They're both green

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>genwunners ignoring the fact gen 1 had a LITERAL digimon

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>>27501639
When the standard for design was set by pokemon like pic related, adding any features is "overdesigning".

>in b4 "muh mimic"

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>>27508694
>talking shit about flower mantis

Theyll fuck your shit up

>>27501770
One of my friends obsesses over these sprites and it's annoying as fuck. Calls the R/B and Y sprites "bullshit from the anime" while defends every ugly Green turd by calling them "charming".

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>>27501639
Gen 5 has plenty simple designs. Some of them have details which are extraneous like Volcarona, but I don't see how it's really different to the brown eyes and tail of Pikachu

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>>27505033
http://wikimon.net/Visual_List_of_Digimon
There are better examples of Digimon who are overdesigned, Examon and DORUgreymon are tame. Here are some examples you ctrl+f;
Anything with Antibody in its, most Dramon. Most Digimon past the first wave are thick with lots of unnecessary bits and pieces and vast arrays of colours. Heck, the whole Antibody premise is taking a Digimon that already exists and adding more shit to it to make it "new".

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>>27510671
Some digimon are pretty cute looking desu.

>>27502173
Mega x is everything wrong with recent pokemon, it looks like a parody of charizard

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so close to getting a bingo

>>27510671
Shit. The best Digimon is still worse than the worse Pokémon.

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>>27511356
That's a top tier taste.
I'll post one of my favorites digimon lines

>>27508130
>boring unikoi better then based LSD esp triggerfish

>>27501639
>I don't want to sound like a Genwunner, but why did they start over designing Pokemon so much?

when they weren't constrained by the fucking gb and could actually design what they wanted.

Also people need to realize that calling Pokemon Digimon isn't an insult. No one remembers Digimon except contrarian 90's kids.

Overdesigned pokemon don't look like digimon. Overdesigned pokemon look like pokemon because there is no alternate.

>>27505798
>he did read the rest of the post

>>27507532
>lugia
>unown
>lucario
>togepi
>snivy

But Genwun had terrible designs!
>Rock with arms
>rock with more arms
>goldfish with a horn
>bigger goldish with a horn
>goo
>big goo
>bird
>bigger bird
>bigger bird
>different bird
>different bigger bird
>egg/coconuts

>>27508853
>Pokemon angry eyes (tm)
Scyther definitely doesn't look like a mantis.

>>27507133
gen 1 ninetails - its a kitsune, i guess its orange, so that means its fire right

gen 7 ninetails - very clearly ice type, the tails resemble cold blowing slow


seriously most of gen 1 is just an animal slightly miscoloured, the rest if released now would get awful reactions

>>27508694
Dragonite is horribly boring-looking. The only reason its design even marginally works is because of its reputation of a powerhouse, so there's a gentle giant charm to it.

Scyther is great, but the flower is even better. My issue with Scyther, though not a damning one, is that it has raptoral head and feet for some reason, despite being bug. Plenty of Gen1 Pokemon already have that look to them. If it was Bug/Dragon, it might be an improvement, but Scizor to me is an improvement for looking more appropriately insectoid.

Neither of the seals are that great, Walrein line trumps both.

The nigger horse has a lot of cool traits, despite the worse artstyle to it, and it ends up looking better ingame than the art anyway.

The little donkey thing is cute, but I might have been wrong, Ponyta's probably a little better. Less plain, even, but this gets reversed in their evos.

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>>27512189
Lugia's a big one for sure. Even normies who seem to know only Pikachu and Charizard always seem to recognize it, guess the movie was a big deal.

Good thing too, easily one of the best-designed legendaries. Not overdesigned even slightly, but looks very original and cool. And one of the few Ubers who's not all about offense, so he's unique there.

>>27512316
its past your bedtime whippersnapper.
i'll put spikes, sharp edges, and stripes on everything in the morning.

all the genwunners reading this, can you stop using the art instead of ingame sprites/models to compare

the artist has changed, they aren't comparable anymore

thanks

>>27512472
Most people would be pretty familiar with Smash even if they don't play Pokemon, so I think Greninja would be pretty iconic as well.

Also, I herd you liek mudkipz.

>>27512528
This is true. Most of the art got updated between gens 3 and 4 to be more in-line with the style of those gens. By using that art, you are trying to claim that the 4th gen version of that pokemon is better than X.

>>27512548
espurr.net is also a thing.

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>>27512528
fine I will, look at this crisp charizard.

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Anyone feel like gen 3 had the most overall solid designs? Gen 1 is my favorite gen but the gen 3 pokemon are great.
>ludicolo
>swello
>breloom
>kecleon
>claydol
>torkal
>sableye
>crawdaunt
>milotic
>flygone
>cacturne
>altariea
>duskskull and duskclopes
>shuppet
>agron
>armaldo
>salamance
>metagross

>>27501770
took me awhile to realize why these sprites felt both unfamiliar and familiar

didn't realize until now there were actually 3 different sets of sprites for gen 1

>>27501770
I've only ever played yellow this looks so strangr