Real leaks (Originally posted on Jul 14 -- https://archive.n

>>27490248
I believe it. Don't remember what snowman they're talking about though.

Fuck, that's too many things that are true already.

>Growlithe line = Water
>Abra line = Fighting

But this shit makes no sense

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>>27491003

Remember how in the original PMD games, Alakazam idolized Lucario and dreamed of being as great as him?

Is this the same leaks that also proposed the final starter evos having two different forms?

>>27491003
A water Arcanine and a Fighting Alakazam make about as much sense as an Ice Ninetales, honestly.

All true so far
No gyms
Yungoos' evolution is fat and hairy.
New forms for old Pokemon (not Megas, think Shellos/Wormadam)
Pokemon transferred from the VC releases will have pre-gen 6 typings/stats.
The stone bracelet has nothing to do with Synchro Evolution.
Some of the new forms for old Pokemon get new animations (Ones I know of include the Abra line)
There is a Flying type bird Pokemon whose appearance varies by island (think Darwin).
>What's mimikkyu's english name
Beware of fake leaks. Mimikkyu, like most Pika-clones, keeps its Japanese name.

>>27490248
Pic of snowman

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>Fighting Abra
Again the Machop line is paid dust. Naturally

>>27491003
>but this makes no sense
neither did vulpix and sandshrew becoming ice type

>>27491079
>Alakazam gets a Mega and a Delta

stop this right now jewfreak, there are hundreds of other pokemon to pick from

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Would this count as getting bewear right too? It's slightly wrong but the name theme is consistent.

>>27490248
>Dark Rattata
>Looker, Zinnia and AZ returning
I need this

Also I'll list the things they got right I guess
>No gyms
>Yungoos' evolution is fat and hairy.
Gumshoos isn't that fat but it is hairy and he could have just seen Totem Gumshoos which is bigger
>New forms for old Pokemon (not Megas, think Shellos/Wormadam)
>The stone bracelet has nothing to do with Synchro Evolution.
Seems to be that way so far
>Some of the new forms for old Pokemon get new animations (Ones I know of include the Abra line)
Alolan Sandshrew and Exeggutor definitely have new animations
>There is a Flying type bird Pokemon whose appearance varies by island (think Darwin).
>Mimikkyu, like most Pika-clones, keeps its Japanese name.

He got the fairy type on Ninetales right but Fire is wrong, could have been a typo he just didn't catch but a lot of things seem real

>>27491314
>>27491264
They may have been writing stuff from memory rather than having it right in front of them, that'd explain getting Ninetales half-right and getting the theme of bewear right.

>>27490248
Where is the part when he said the starters get 2 evolutions?

what about the supposedly new: Moby dick, Shark and Bottlenose dolphin?

>>27491377
hmm...he/she did say that they intentionally avoided saying beware actual name looking at the OP.

>There's a hint in my previous post, but I'm not going to say the exact name to avoid comprising my sources.

>>27490248
>Ninetales: Fire/Fairy

They got that wrong.

>>27491516

The "leak" for the Gen 6 starters also got Chesnaught and Greninja's typings mixed up; they said that Chespin's final evo would be Grass/Dark and Froakie's would be Water/Fighting

Point is, getting one little detail wrong (or intentionally mixing false info in with correct info) doesn't mean it's fake.

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>no gyms

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>>27491449
The post just before the part about the hint. There's no way this is fake. Absolutely no way.

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>>27491683
Another hint they left.

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You know this whole bit is like a scavenger hunt to search through the trash in that thread for legit secrets. It's actually kinda fun.

>>27491516
The fact that it's Ninetales out of hundreds of pokemon and part Fairy is good enough

>Some of the new forms for old Pokemon get new animations
This is already proven true with Sandshrew and his cute little spinny move he does when he attacks in igloo form.

I would trust me.

So with Pokemon being transferred from the VC releases, that means shit like Wigglytuff and Clefable are back to being pure Normal types? And Mr. Mime being pure Psychic?

I wish he would've said if Mega evolution was coming back or not, and the exact number on new Pokemon.

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>>27491878
>not sure if anon playing a joke or if actually secret santa leaker.

I....I'm scared.

>>27491377
I think an Ice typed Ninetales is striking enough to remember 2bh

>>27491894
no
they'll keep normal/fairy

>Zinnia is back
God dammit.

>>27491939
He could have been posting half truths. Becauae who the fuck would believe Ninetales would change its typing completely.

>>27491949
but they didn't have fairy pre-gen 6.
The leak says they'll keep the typing from pre gen 6.

>>27491079
There's only 151 to choose from for Game Freak, friend ;^)

I'm really excited for that cat and snowman.
ALSO WE FINALLY GET A FUCKING DOLPHIN!

>>27490248
Was this leak an original one, though? It references the Chinese leak: is this not the Chinese leak translated?

>>27490248
can we get this and currently non-disproven leaks stickied as a reference.

>>27491932
Its me. Cant leak more now. Too many eyes.

>>27491997
no
it says they'll keep their FORM from pre-alola
their form has fairy type in it now

Wait guys so more evolutions for Ruckruff means split evolutions or a 3 stage line?

>>27492072
Split evolution for each island

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>>27491154
>Beware of fake leaks
>he literally said Bewear's name in the leak
JUST

>>27492052
It clearly fucking says they'll keep their TYPING and STATS pre-gen 6, meaning no Fairy type. God, learn how to read.

>>27491159
>thinking alola alakazam will be physical
I don't think anything's going to be THAT radical. I imagine its stats will be comparable to what it has now.

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>>27491729
>>27491683

>>27492109
f-fuck i missed that
my bad
it's 5 fucking am i need sleep if im messing up this bad

>>27492109

That's for the Pokemon with Alolan forms.

Like, if you transfer an Exeggutor from previous gens, it'll still be Grass/Psychic, but ones caught in Alola will be Grass/Dragon.

>>27492072
Split evolutions like wormadan or pyroar

>>27492184
It's ok anon, I forgive you. Go ahead and give yourself a well deserved rest.

>>27492176
That's not my point though. Gen 6 gave nothing to Machamp while megas were given to Gengar and Alakazam. Golem had +10 BST and now for Gen 7, we get what is essentially a delta Alakazam

>>27492222
i will
and i think this guy explains what i wanted to mean better than i did >>27492197

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>Fighting Alakazam
Yes.....

>>27492197
I understand that. But the leak specifically says VC releases, meaning Pokemon transferred from Red, Blue and Yellow will keep their pre-gen 6 typing and stats. Does that not mean Clefable, Wigglytuff and Mr. Mime lose their Fairy typing?

>>27491985
Yeah, but people would be more likely to believe him if something so outrageous is revealed to be true.

>>27492023
No it's something different usually called the "delta leak". He posted them here on 4chan (and someone is claiming to be him in this thread) multiple times but most people didn't believe his ideas at the time because they seemed outrageous.

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>>27492176
>It has No Guard or Technician
>gets Vacuum Wave or Focus Blast

>>27492109
>keeping their stats
>from gen I
What the fuck does this mean for the Special stat? What about shit like Butterfree, which had its Special Defense changed in Gen VI?

This is all so bewildering.

>>27491082
Yeah

>>27491609
We wont have gyms anon, bu we will have something similar to them that will make you champion of Alola.

>>27492104
see
>>27491729
>>27491683

>>27492266
He is claiming to be him, actually. The cosmos is a wonderful place, anon, isn't it???

>>27492269
I'm honestly not sure. But I think this is only for Pokemon transferred from the VC releases, meaning anything transferred from gen 6 games will keep their buffed stats and new typings.

>>27492316
Yeah, we all came to the same conclusion. Glad other anons didn't miss out on that genius.

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>>27492181
when you realize the proof was right under your nose

>>27492263
Nah. But it would had been shitposted for months though..
I really wished i was here for B/W reveals.

>chinese leaks were right, there is a snowman pokémon

What chinese leaks?

>>27492448
I dont know where the guy got alt evos for starters. Thats pretty weird.

Between all the atm credible leaks there's

Yungoos' evolution
Oricorio
Snowman
Dolphin
Sea cuccumber
Mushroom
Rugby monkey
Final starter evos
Rockruff's evos (werewolf and ...not werewolf)
And a multitype cat

Leakers dont give a fuck this gen.

>>27492448
>Furfrou gets new styles
haha wut, it just said that you'd change its styles in Amie now since it features grooming and shit
>may be two final evos per starter
where the fuck did this come from?

Also sure nice of the site to not post any source whatsoever

>>27492551
there was something somewhere about split gender evolutions in the chinese leak or something, but I don't remember the details. if someone could elaborate for me too.

>>27492040
Why'd you fuck up Ninetales's type senpai

>>27492553
Blame China getting a proper translation. Chinese leakers don't give a fuck.

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>>27492415
for fucks sake

>>27492621
To help protect my sources. Some of the others aren't real, either. Though all are based in truth, either type change or which line gets them.

>>27492673
are alolan forms gen 1 only or no? can you at least answer that?

>>27492593
http://pokejungle.net/2016/08/01/chinese-rumor-leaked-starter-evolutions-confirmed-true/

For you

>>27492651
that doesnt say anything about split evos

and those leaks are fake anyway since there are no traditonal gyms or league.

>>27492651
I'm not sure what you're trying to show here

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>>27492551
>>27492618
here it is

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>>27492708
Sorry to crush your dreams, but I can't

>>27492673
you arent the leaker anon, stop roleplaying

>>27492651
danke

>>27492448
Sauce please?
First I'm hearing of alt evos.
It would make plenty of sense though, considering Poppmaid's feminine appearance.
Would make me actually LIKE Poppmaid instead of just accept it.

>>27492755
>around the third gym
>third gym

it's bullshit. everyone go home. The alolan Pokemon thing was a lucky guess.

>>27492755
This one is still iffy. Although it mentions the cat it mentions gyms too.

Really hoping the cat exists though.

>>27492775
is this you: >>27492755

>>27492651
FLAMINGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

>Larger, but not by much, amount of brand new Pokemon than last gen
So how many I'm thinking around 90 since we will get 10 legendaries this gen if the island guardians are legends( 4 island guardians Magearna Solgaleo Lunala Marshadow and 2-3 hidden legendaries)

>>27492828
Refer to
>>27492755

>>27491314
It's possible ninetales has its original typing changed to fire/fairy in gen 8

>>27492651
Those aren't the chinese leaks. They actually contradict them based on the presence of gym leaders. The chinese leaks were from Smogon, not here.

>>27492651
>peak instead of beak
You can't make this shit up.

>>27493000
those were the fake leaks that the real leaks were posted within. the actual leaker called out the op as bullshit in it, too.

>>27492855
That leak didn't mention gyms

>>27490248
>>27490248
>Butterfree = Bug/Psychic
>Rattata line = Dark
>Nidoqueen/Nidoking = Poison/Fighting
>Ninetales = Fire/Fairy
>Growlithe line = Water
>Abra line = Fighting
>Duduo line = Fighting/Flying
>All genwun

When will the pandering stop?

>>27493297
NEVER EVER

>>27492651
>megas
>>27492755
>no megas
what do?

>>27493372
The first one is fake.
The second one contradicts the first one multiple times. The second one also contains info identical to the other, apparently right, leak, that said the first one is fake and also told the first one to fuck off. So the first one is fake.

>>27493372
The top one is fake. The real leaker called that one out as bs in the thread archived in OP's post.

>>27493372
First one is definitely fake, second one is most likely fake.
Form your own opinion.

Another guy in an earliet leak said 4 rockruff evos based on island cliffs, and day/night start evos. Should be true as it mentions Alolan Duduo Dutrio to have longer thicker lega, which fits the flying/fighting type.

>>27491136
Ice ninetales was fine to me
It was found in an Ice moutain in PMD

>>27491136
>>27491161

Foxes are able to able to adapt to any weather, especially snow

>>27491609
Orre games didn't have gyms (not including the pre-gym which hardly counts) and it was still one of the better games in the series (although it was a spinoff)

Hopefully all the trials include battles with Kahunas + whatever Sophocles and co. are.

>>27493049
>around the third gym

I'm the giy above, saw that you guys posted that same leak. You all see that its one week ahead of the leaks whoch have boatloads of true info right? Definitely the same source or near to it.

>>27493049
Read it. It says you get Zygarde 10% around the third gym. But there are no gyms.

People need to stop reposting this fake bullshit.

>>27493297

There will also be an Alolan Lucario which is Fighting/Ground-type

They're a more primitive version of Lucario who haven't learned how to make bones out of energy yet, so they carry bones around like Cubone and Marowak and can learn Bonemerang

>>27491609

You guys need to stop pretending to get angry

We have 25 games with gyms

A change to the formula won't hurt anybody

The game is already doing a good job of challenging you

You get multiple trials within the islands, have to fight a super boosted large pokemon that can call summons and a battle with the island leaders

and there's still whatever challenges you go through after completing the base island trials

>>27493297

There was a specific reason they told you that Gen 1 in VC was able to connect to Sun and Moon

This is that reason

>>27491159
>Psychic Machamp with Atk and SAtk swapped
>SpecsChamp is now viable

>>27491159

Machamp is still the one whose playable in Pokken and not Alakazam

>>27492448

I hate how snarky that website is

>>27492553
I hate that they had to ruin the surprise

especially with the starters

>>27493746
>I hate that they had to ruin the surprise
You ruined it for yourself, retard.

>>27493746
>I hate that they had to ruin the surprise
>especially with the starters
You're already ruining the surprises yourself by following the official trailers.

>>27493746
Why the fuck are you on /vp/ if you don't like leaks?

>>27491729
HOLY SHIT

>>27493586
The point of gyms in the games were to help players by teaching strategies and type advantages as well as helping players think about puzzles and building up your final fight with the Champion.

Although I can't say much about their replacements, a good way to spice up the formula would be to make it so you can fight gyms in any order, have more gyms than the requirement, and add mini gyms that gives you an advantage in gym battles in someway.

>>27490248
>Ash-Greninja is in the game.
I wonder how it'll work. If it's exactly like the anime, then it's pretty much a Synchro even though the mechanic itself doesn't seem to be usable by the player. Maybe it's a peculiar ability and you only fight it as a boss.

>>27493911
That would mean Ash is a character in the games

>>27493905

That's exactly what the Alola Island Trials are doing though

All of them test a different aspect and so you can become the Island Champion, which you will most likely need to fight in the end

It doesnt matter what form teaches you this, it's the fact that it still exists

>>27493911

I call bullshit

Ash isnt allowed to be in the games, ever

the closest was Jessie and james, thats it

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>>27493911
>>27493953
Well...

>>27493953
>>27494065
Didn't Ash get mentioned in ORAS???

>>27494127
what? sauce this

>>27494127
Alan did, not Ash.

>>27494157
Post it. It's still supposedly an anime-only character though.
>team flare comes back in alola, zygarde stuff, alan

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>>27494186
>You know, seeing that white beauty there that you travel with…
>I’m reminded of the Legendary Pokemon Rayquaza, said to descend at the Sky Pillar. I once had the chance to see it face to face. Although, it was a long time ago now…
>The young man who battled against Rayquaza beside me…
>I wonder whatever happened to him and that black Charizard of his…

>>27490248
>Growlithe line = Water
You better not fuck this up, gamefreak.

>>27494224
Weren't they referring to Origins' Red? Though I forgot if he had an X or a Y Mega Charizard

>>27494296
Steven didn't fight Mega Rayquaza with Origins Red.

>>27492755
...So we're not getting Megas back? Not sure what conclusion I should draw, other than we're not getting new megas.

>>27494369
Did you miss when he mentioned gyms? It's fake, if not mentioning the type change for Alola forms didn't tip you off.

>>27494296
Origins Red had a MegaCharizard X, but he hasn't fought Rayquaza with Steven as far as we know. It's possible though, but the Mega Evolution specials exists.

>>27491154

>mimikyuu
>pikaclone
>not even electric

i guess this reatrd thinks that marill is also a pikaclone

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>>27494444
>pikablu
>not a pika clone

>>27494444
he didnt say it was a pikaclone, only that it kept its japanese game like most of them.

Also, nice quads

>>27490248
We've already seen Arcanine in the Rockruff reveal and it STAYS THE SAME.

when will you utter twats stop?

>>27492261
>>27492333
Maybe the leaker meant they keep their "typing" meaning VC Vulpix will always be Fire, VC Sandshrew will always be Ground etc. And then keeping "stats" means Alola formes will have different Stat distribution and VC pokemon won't get those either.

The only other logical option would be for them to keep a repeated Special Attack/Defense Stat instead of splitting it like Gen 2 did.

It's kinda retarded to expect, say, VC Jigglypuff to be Normal type, when a physically identical Normal/Fairy Jigglypuff is available. Players would not be able to tell them apart.

>>27494733
>Alola forms make the original stop existing
It would be nice seeing genwunners get angry at it, but that's not the case.

>>27494655

thus implying that it a pikaclone. why mention the pikaclone part then. he could have said "it keeps it japanese name" and end it there, but he explained why: because it is a pikaclone.

>>27494827
he didnt imply such thing. If he wanted to say it kept the name because it is a pikaclone he wouldve said "being a pikaclone, it keeps the name", or "it keeps the name because it is a pikaclone".

Learn to read

>>27494224
>a long time ago

How fucking old are you Steven?

>>27494860
Why did he mention Pikaclones then? What you're saying makes no sense.

>>27494746
Yes we would. Because of the new battle interface that says which moves are super effective, we can tell what type of Jigglypuff we're battling.

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>VP actually having an actual leaker hidden among all the fakers

impossible....IMPOSSIBLE

>>27493715
Pokken is a dying sidegame and Machamp isn't even among the mid tier characters

>>27492553
Only the Snowman is basically guaranteed, not the others.

Also, in XY they introduced 32 pokemon lines (wo legends), it feels like we know most of them at this point isnt it?

>>27492268
>No Guard Focus Blast
>Technician Vacuum Wave
My body is ready, time to fap to some muscular Alakazam fanart

I bet mega stones will be incompatible with these variant pokemon. The whole point seems to be offering us rare types that otherwise would be exclusive to megas. The fire guy's Marowak will probably be Dragon/Fire.

I'm very hype for muscle wizard Alakazam.

>>27491609
Captains are gym leaders. Calm down.
Gym leaders specialize in one type. So do captains.
Leaders are important npc of a specific place. So are captains.

It's silly to think you won't battle captains at some point even if you have to do a different quest first.

Captains are Gym Leaders sans the name.

>>27490248
>There is a 2-stage cat Pokemon that is normal when captured in the wild, but it will inherit the father's primary type as it's 2nd type when hatched; the color/pattern varies by type (think Vivillion).
That's kinda cool.

>>27490248
>he was right about the darwin birds

Holy shit

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>>27490248
>tfw was in that thread monitoring closely
>thought both of them were being retarded but wanted a laugh
>it was a legit source

T-thanks Leaker-sama. I hope the cat is real.

>>27490248
>Butterfree = Bug/Psychic
>Rattata line = Dark
>Nidoqueen/Nidoking = Poison/Fighting
>Ninetales = Fire/Fairy
>Growlithe line = Water
>Abra line = Fighting
>Duduo line = Fighting/Flying
We can't be 100% sure that the same person who wrote the first two posts (with the confirmed leaks) also wrote this. It could be someone else impersonating him.

>>27490248
Fuck Pokemon leaks, what the fuck is the context for this picture?

>>27494733
>Revealing Alolan Formes in a trailer prior to the actual reveal
Are you really that fucking retarded?

>>27492755
He doesn't actually mention Pokemon changing type, just colors/stats/etc. I don't know about this one...

Ash is in the E4. You moved to alola because your dad is an e4 member. Yfw Ash is your dad and Ash greninja is your brother

>Nineties=Fire/fairy

>>27491212
>not liking based alakazam
go fuck your beloved lucario, faggot

>>27498081
What ghost Pokemon would fall in the same egg group as cat? Just curious if this cat is salvation to ghost/normal typing

>>27502895
The cat is probably from the Field egg group, so it can breed with pokémon of every type except Bug, and Ghost.

It's also possible that it wouldn't be able to inherit Flying type from its father since the only primary Flying types are Noibat and Noivern. BUT its breeding mechanics could just ignore primary Normal type, making it able to inherit Flying type from Farfetch'd.

So to be able to get every type there's two options:
>the cat belongs to two egg groups (Field and something)
or
>gen 7 introduces new Ghost/Bug/primary Flying pokémon that belong to the Field group

>>27492651
But Arbok's markings are completely different in Kanto than Johto
Also
>gyms
Gonna stay real skeptical on this one. That Rockruff business sounds fucking excellent though.

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>>27492651

>>27493586
Ive been desperately waiting for them to change the formula since DPPt
Keep all the core gameplay but overhaul the progression through the story, it could be pretty neat

>>27504716
Ok, this one made me giggle

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>>27493531
Arcanine is based on the Ryukyuan which is a mythical creature that it similar to lions, tigers and dogs. They can all swim.

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>>27491609
My brain can't comprehend how retard does one have to be to actually want gyms back again for the 7th fucking generation of the same reused formula since 20 years

>>27492755
Chances are that second post isn't OP, though.

>>27490248
>No gyms
Right.
>More than 1 evo for Rockruff (including a werewolf)
No one knows, maybe.
>Yungoos' evolution is fat and hairy.
Already wrong. Lucky shot.

I can't wait for billion of "real leaks" because they got half right. But they said half wrong on purpouse, right?

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>>27492021
Did you forget about me, anon?
Did you?

>>27506111
>shisa

>>27506290
Why Bubble Lead?

>>27494065
it could just be that this is anime art
like as in ash is there with the buff litten evo and mallow is the new side girl

c o u l d

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>>27492021
>>27507677
D I D

Y
O
U

>>27506290
Yeah how dare people like pokemon? Who the fuck wants pokemon back again for the 7th fucking generation?

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>>27490248
>Transferring through Bank will be the only way to get some forms of old Pokemon.

>>27493297
>Rattata line = Dark
I'm guessing this is the rodent they referred to with Yungoos
>Duduo line = Fighting/Flying
Maybe it's a cassowary? I don't know if there's a bird for that on Hawaii

>>27491079
what a furfag

>>27498599
>all gen 1 Pokemon

IT NEVER ENDS

It was bad enough in X/Y and Go.

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>>27504716
NEXT
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>>27506332
But the 2nd post has the shit about the cat
And the cat later was in the same post that called the island birds.
What if the 2nd poster was the "Real leaks" guy

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>Dark type Rattata

Oh.

>Like so many invasive species that now run amuck on islands around the world, mongooses were intentionally introduced to Hawaii. Sugar cane farmers took their cue from Jamaican plantation owners who imported mongooses to control rat populations. In 1883 the mongooses were let loose in the fields, an approach that proved to be colossally uninformed. As it turns out, rats are nocturnal and mongooses are diurnal.

>>27492621
It's probably not him btw

>>27492673
No one is going to believe you, faggot.

>>27501302
>Greninja
>brother
Is this some wild fan-fic you've concocted

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>>27511487
Holy fuck
It's actually happening.

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>>27511487

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>>27490248
Reposting this from another thread

>>27490248
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>>27511487
Correct.