>retype old pokemon >swap around the stats >make slight

>>27469242
>>call it a new pokemon

they're not though.

I almost feel as if this is their way of redesigning old Pokemon without explicitly doing it.

>>27469242
They called them new formes, if Yokai Watch can reskin the same cat 500 times, why can't they reskin a few pokemon?

I agree OP, this will only devalue the individual pokemon just like every other jrpg that does this sort of trash.

But oh well. Complaining won't do anything either. better renew your subscription to pokebank!

>>27469242
Scizor?

>>27469291

http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/pokemon/

>>27469344
blame to xyoras

>swap around the stats
IS THAT CONFIRMED?

>>27469344
Steel instead of flying, same BST

>>27469242
Why is this not sticky?

>>27469242
Why is Scizor in that picture

>>27469338
You know OP is sarcastic right? Do we have to tag everything with /s like reddit for retards like you?

>>27469242
>Ice/Steel
>even fucking slower
Sandslash is ruined. :(

>>27469381

Well it says the Sandmons are slower than their ground counterparts so I'd assume yes.

Also they mention exeggutor being physical which would suck with current stats

>>27469344
It's an odd case since it has the same BST as Scuther, but different typing and stats.

I think the OP is a bit sarcastic in his point

>>27469389
Same BST, same stats just swapped
New type.
This isn't that new

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>>27469404
>I was just pretending to be retarded

>>27469242
I think this is a great new idea.
It's something I've always wanted but never, EVER expected to get.

>>27469389

It matches the desription in the op

>>27469242
Regardless, you're still going to play it

>>27469407
First, Sandslash has always been bad. Second, normal form still exists so if you don't like Iceslash, don't use it.

>>27469242
>>27469352
>call it a new pokemon

They're not? It's still a Vulpix. It doesn't have an entirely different name. It's no more a "new Pokémon" than the Cosplay Pikachus.

>>27469332
>if Yokai Watch can reskin the same cat 500 times, why can't they reskin a few pokemon?

Because seeing variations of the same pokemon triggers my autism.

I am literally hissing and flailing right now because I can't comprehend an Ice type Sandslash.

>>27469242
>call it a new pokemon
And because they never called them a new pokemon Pokemon never died

So do these new forms mean no new Megas?
I kinda hope so.

>>27469575
>Mega Alolan Charizard X and Y

>>27469242
I wonder if they'll get different dex entries. It'll be weird having the pokedex say Vulpix spews flames while showing the snow-white fur of the Alola form.

>Posts Scizor in the first image
>all these retards don't get OPs sarcasm

holy shit, what's wrong with all of you

>>27469513

Or, you know, east sea or west sea shellos, origin giratina, or Rotom...

This is something they should have implemented in gen 2 with breeding instead of stupid baby pokemon. I'm glad they're finally doing this and hope it continues in future gens.

>>27469575
Not at all. These are side forms. If Gamefreak really wants to fuck with us, they'll give the Alolan forms Megas but not the standard forms.

>>27469352
Yeah Zygarde's a new mon

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>>27469242
sure, here's alohan squirtle line

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>>27469242
>Scizor
Cheeky cunt.

>>27469516
ANIMALS IN THE REAL WORLD CAN ADAPT TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT AND THIS CREATES VARIATIONS
POKEMON ARE ANIMALS THAT CAN TRANSFORM IN A FLASH OF LIGHT

HOW DOES IT NOT MAKE SENSE THAT THEY COULD DO THIS TOO ?!

>>27469955
Pokemon aren't real animals you faggot.

>>27469682

Worked better than i thought desu

>>27469516

Are you joking? it makes SO much fucking sense? Have you ever fucking left your basement and traveled before? animals differ due to their environment. This shit should've been done YEARS ago

>sandshrew
>sandshrew
>sandshrew
>sandshrew
>SANDshrew
>SAND
>SHREW
>A
>N
>D
nu type: ice steel lol

Game freak is officially deviant art fan-fiction tier. Now that Pokemon is dead, maybe with a little bit of retrospect people can agree that Gen III was the last actually good game.

>>27469856
You now realize that all people bitching about this shit also have to bitch about Scizor. In many ways Scizor is a precursor of this.

Praying to Arceus that the Poliwag line gets a reskin.

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>>27469242
>>27469839
aloha ursaring

It's good to know people will ALWAYS find a reason to shitpost

>>27470092
You now realize that people who dislike these new ""ideas"" also thought scizor was a shitmon in Gen 2

>>27470092
>>27469856
wait what did they do to Scizor exactly?

>>27470076
>This shit should've been done YEARS ago
Exactly. So why change the formula now?

It's not like we haven't had hints of this

Gastrodon east and west

Wormadam

Basculin

You dont's need to ruffle your autism about it

>>27470171
To make you upset, obviously.

>>27470076
The fact that Pokemon are irrevocably tied to a typing makes you an idiot though. Vulpix without fire isn't vulpix anymore than a Houndoom without poison in its stomach isn't a Houndoom. Pokemon are not animals you fucking faggot

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i just wanted a normal gen
why does every new game need new forms now

>>27470228
That's bullshit but I believe it.

>>27470165

>new type
>same bst
>alter looks a bit
>call it a new pokemon

Scyther-Scizor is the same as Sandshrew-Iceshrew

Oh no, how dare they give us the regional variants a load of people wanted. And this is the closest we'll get to delta species. Plenty of people wanted those in the games before the variant thing became popular.

Besides, it doesn't even matter if it's a recolour or a brand new Pokemon. You'd shit on it regardless.

>>27469682
>implying it's easy to detect sarcasm on /vp/ with how many genuine retards are here

>>27470293
No you fucking idiot Scizor is an evolution, iceshrew is a nonsensical lateral "form" change. It makes no sense. Scizor is an evolution, with a steel held item. You'd need to somehow say that over here in this special bush you can find a yellow Scyther that's electric/fairylol, which is a special regional Scyther.

At which point the question becomes why is this electric fairy thing a Scyther at all, Scyther is a fucking mantis. It's a bug. Why not just make a new Pokemon for that thing?

These are not variations. Variations do not alter the typing of a species because POKEMON SPECIES ARE DEFINED BY TYPING

>Change typing
>Adjust stats and abilities
>Give your favorites more options
Yep, game is dead. How dare they try to give you more options and buff older Pokemon to keep up with the power creep.

>>27469242
>gatrodon had minor varient
>sinnoh
>sinnoh confirmed
>imagine sinnoh variants of gen 5 6 7 mons

>>27469242
>Only 70 new Pokemon confirmed
The dream is dead.

Why is Scizor in that image? Did I miss Scizor's Alola typing in the trailer?

>>27469386
>>27469433
Except Scyther has to evolve into scizor and scizor isn't just named "Scyther" so no it's not the fucking same thing you idiot

>>27470451

Scizor is just a form change, but it needs an item to form change

>>27469575
Nah, what it means is that the Alolan forms either have megas or have stats equal to them.

>>27469242
why is scizor here

>>27470601
It is an evolution

>>27470591

So if they made you use an ice rock on sandshrew then it evolved into iceshrew who had the same bst it'd be ok?

>>27470565
apparently he has a typing but it wasn't shown

>>27470635
It doesn't evolve though.

>>27470628
Because op is trying to make the retarded argument that Scizor is the same thing as then Alola forms.

Even though scizor is an evolution
With a different name
And is a different Pokemon
Not a re-working of Scyther

Because OP is a memeing faggot

>>27470654
What? No. I'm fine with Alola subspecies. They should have done it a long time ago. I am just saying it is in no way the same thing as scizor. Did you even read the fucking posts I quoted. Yes, I know OP was being sarcastic, but those two posts were genuine idiots

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>>27470635
It's slide digivolution

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>>27470003
But they are wild creatures/monsters that can change their form via various stimuli.

The idea that they could also change their appearance via surrounding environment over time in order to adapt to things isn't all that far from the realm of understanding.

It's a neat little thing that is fun to think about and consider, and I'm not sure why people are so ass-blasted over such a thing.

>>27469242
kill yourself op

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>>27470686
Are you done?

>>27470090
>salamander
>salamander
>salamander
>salamander
>salaMANder
>MAN
>A
>N
animal kingdom: amphibain lol

>>27470774
Excellently debated m'dude

so wait, if theres these kahunas and trials does that mean the gyms and gym leaders are now obsolete?

>>27469242
Those are different subspecies anon.

Also I dont care I want a Alola Sandslash ASAP.

>>27470704

>same bst

If they called it Icetales and "evolved it" everyone would be fine with it

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>>27470732
Don't forget this one

>>27470868
No they wouldn't. It would still be stupid but at least it would be contiguous

>>27470762
That's putting on a crab suit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Ru-wduZ70

>Your favorite Pokemon gets a "Aloha" makeover

>>27470910

>put on ice shard suit
>not ok
>put on a crab suit
>ok

I don't get it either man

>>27470994
I know you don't.

>>27469242

I don't give a shit

Ninetails means we actually get a fast special attacker in ice

>>27470132
No, they don't share a BST at all. Though so far the regional bears have all been weak to Fighting.

>>27470451
>Pokemon species are defined by typing
woah there John gamefreak I didn't realize you could suddenly define what makes a species. Good thing you designed the games huh :^)

>>27471053
>4x weak to Bullet Punch

Enjoy your Scizor bait

>>27471119

>not knowing that charizard and M-Charizard X are different species

lol idiot

>>27471145

>not having an ugly fish on your team to compliment it

>>27469450
>making a joke = pretending to be retarded
How stupid can one person be? How do you manage to dress yourself in the morning?

>>27471275
You're not talking for anyone, stop butting into the conversation not directed towards you

>>27469242
is this the next epic meme?

>>27470657
>he

>>27470732
That would be cool if Slowbro had an Alola variant without Shellder. Maybe make it look more salamander like, while the Shellder evolves into a Spiral Cloyster.

>>27470258
>Pokemon are irrevocably tied to a typing
>even though Pokemon change type upon evolution
>even though forms with different typing already exist (eg Wormadam)

>>27470451
Then what is mega evolution, that strictly changes the typing of a pokemon species? Special unexplainable stones can do it, why can't adapting to a different environment do it? At least it makes far more sense.

I don't get what the big deal about vulpix living in a snowy region for x amount of time, adapting to that environment by becoming an ice type, i.e. pokemon that inhabit cold regions.

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>>27470994
There is a Kuwaga(n)on and many red Pokémon with pinchy things. Bug-type move called Snibeti Snab that lowers the opponent's defense as well as being 60 Power for Technician bait when?

>>27471430
Evolution changes one Pokemon into another separate Pokemon, anono

>>27471370
Female ones have a bigger butt

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We Yo-kai Watch now. Get used to it

>>27471485
Right, but we have regular Pokemon with different typing, appearance, etc already. This is just an extension of stuff like Shellos, Wormadam, Vivillion, etc.

>>27469242
everyone is hyped and vp is being a faggot again

>>27471442
>Then what is mega evolution
A mutation caused by space rocks because Pokemon are extra volatile to certain energies?

>>27469242
That was one of the main things I hated about digimon. They had so many fucking pallet swaps, it felt so cheap and lazy to me. These """""forms"""" are cheap and lazy, I would have rather seen completely new designs and pokemon with those types.

Grass/Dragon, Yes please. Slapping Grass/dragon on a pokemon that has been psychic for 20 years out of nowhere, no thank you.

>>27471302
If you want a private conversation stop posting on a public forum you utter mongoloid. Jesus fuck you are so dumb, how did you even manage to solve the CAPTCHA to post here?

>>27469332
And at least the alolan formes have new abilities, moves, possible new bsts, types, etc.
and i'm actually a fan of yokai watch

>>27471485
Explain Wormadam then.

>>27471275
My mum dresses me

>>27471725
You're not talking for anyone. That has nothing to do with me wanting a private conversation.

>>27471763
It turned into an adult woman kind of bagworm.

>>27471594
>pokemon are extra volatile to certain energies
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS THIS SANDSHREW ICE TYPE WHEN IT TRIES TO LIVE IN AN ICY REGION?! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS! LAZY DESIGN STUPID CONCEPT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>27469242
>call it a new pokemon
Pretty sure they're calling them new forms though

>>27472115
If it makes you feel better I'm not that anon.

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>>27469242
>Try to pander to genwunners and Pokemon GO normies by re-typing and changing some old pokemon slightly
>They'll just say they're shit/running out of ideas/not muh originals anyway

>>27469407
It'll be the fairy counter in lower tiers. Normal slash wasn't powerful.

>>27472252
Who cares?
They're doing something interesting that long time fans have wanted.

>>27470090
question:

Why don't you look at it like a fennix fox versus a tundra fox?

>Pikachu gets an Alola form
>Turns into a regular Raichu when it evolves

>>27470890
Please GF, it's right there. You're already doing a not-orange islands game, you can add crystal onix

What typing would it be though?

>>27469407
It's also potentially a better spinner than normal Sandslash.

In exchange for a neutrality to Stealth Rock rather than a resistance, it gains immunity to Toxic Spikes and possibly a benefit from Sticky Web (dat STAB Gyro Ball coupled with allegedly shitty speed).

>>27472607
Oh man, that's how they're going to rehash the Raichu vs Pikachu episode.
Alolan Raichu vs Pikachu.

Also does this mean they're going to introduce an ice stone for Vulpix or what?

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>>27469575
are you fuckers blind? the trainer rides a fucking mega sharpedo in the trailer, step it up

>>27472635
That typing though, quad weakness to fire and fighting is rough

>>27472695
>No new megas

Missed a word there senpai, mega sharpedo already exists

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>>27470258

Holy shit is this the start of the next divide?

Instead of "genwunners", now we have "typist" who reject pokemon of the same species because they have different typings?!

As if this place could be any more /pol/ related...

>>27472695
Wait where?
The sharpedo he was riding was a regular one.

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>>27470994
crabs are best

>>27469242
This is what we have wanted for years. It adds much needed diversity and realism and you fuckers need to stop sounding like spoiled rotten children.

>>27472977
Yet they only cared about Gen 1 Pokemon, isn't that odd?

If they gave a fuck about other generations, then I'd be more than happy, there are so many other Pokemon that could have alternative forms but Gamefreak is not only lazy but panders to Genwunners yet again.
And it looks like they dropped megas for Alolan forms, which will be dropped in the next gen.

Fuck, I'm mad.

>>27473174
Nah, they just won't be as spread out. Like gender differences. A couple gen 5 and 6 do but not to the subtle ones.

>>27469242
No one called them new Pokemon, you fucking sperglord.

>>27473174
God they've only shown three lines anon. At least hold off your complaint until we see more.

>>27469605
They will. The descriptions on http://www.pokemon-sunmoon.com/en-us/ are pretty much the in-game Pokedex entries for both versions.

>>27472877

What is a species to you, besides a name? Is it just that they uh l-look similar?

>>27469605
They'll probably get one single Pokedex entry mentioning the variations and you'll have the ability to change the form like previous games.

>>27471580
Basically, yes.

You have to be quick to enjoy the real enthusiasm threads. They always blow up quick when the new info drops. Then the shitposting begins for the next few days.

Every time.

Just hide bad threads and make good ones.

>retypes of old pokemon
As long as it makes somewhat sense and has a plausible explanation I'm fine with it.

>>27473649
And it does!

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>>27469242
... what the actual fuck?

>>27469242
Sorry, i dont understand, everyone asked for Delta forms, game freak Made it, why are u discussing this?

>>27470090
Didn't they say that sandshrew adapted that form from its original Kantoan form?

Reminda me of a fan game called Pokémon Insurgence
Edgelord of a game, but they implemented delta pokemon which are mons with different typings and altered features.

>>27473772
It is a tree

>>27472629
Ice/Water clearly.

Or maybe Ice/Rock.

>>27473961
Sandshrew have historically lived in desert areas. But the frequent eruptions of nearby volcanoes drove the Sandshrew to abandon the desert and migrate to snowy mountains, where they took on this form.
Something like that.

>>27473699
Well it does so long as they don't introduce ice slugma or anything like that.
retyping only goes so far before it gets silly.

>>27469242
Better than having Mega Evolutions desu
Kalos forms would had been a better idea

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>>27473479

A species is a population of physiological similar organisms that are capable interbreeding with each other to produce fertile offspring on the genotype level regardless of their phenotypical features.

It doesn't matter if your Vulpix is inherently a fire type or ice type. If the two can still breed with each despite looking slightly different than they are still within the same pokemon species and egg group.

The only difference is that some "barrier" (i.e. the island region) occurred that cause them to change but it wasn't enough to make them outright genetically incompatible.

>>27474353
Actually an ice/fire slugma that's essentially slush would be interesting.

>>27469242
Why is scizor there
why are you so stupid

>>27469242
I'm hyped.

>>27474353
>retyping only goes so far before it gets silly.
Thing is, it'll never technically get silly because adaptation is a part of evolution.
In all honesty this should have been a part of the game from about gen 3?

Water/electric deep sea gyarados pls

>>27474353
A slug made of slush sounds batter AF. Maybe even can have a different shape to the shell as Magcargo.

>>27474442
>capable of interbreeding with viable, fertile, offspring
>polar and grizzly bears are not different species
Don't buy that jew definiton of species which rolls negroids as the same species as people

>>27474674
So edgy Lanturn?

>>27474674
I don't think they'll give them to Pokemon who have megas sadly.
But it would be cool to see a bio luminescent gyarados.

>>27469404
>I interpreted it this way, so, um, excuse me? You know I'm right, right?

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>>27474733
Acktually since 99% of black DNA is Homo Sapien that means they are Homo Sapien. Honestly we need to change the name of this species Homo Sapien how arrogant can you get.

>>27469509
>sandslash
>bad

This is why you people need to play anything goes

>>27472877
Such a liberalcuck move to bring in /pol/ when discussing 2 completely different creatures, and hating one of them based on just their "color"

>>27469682
It's extremely poorly done sarcasm. For one, Scizor was one generation later and a direct evolution. Not only that but he looks almost nothing like Scyther. You could actually just release him in another generation, completely unrelated to Scyther and a good sum of people would not make the connection. While Vulpix and Sandshrew are literally just White Vulpix and White Sandshrew.

>>27470076
This is a dumb argument though, evolution and diversity is different from the game mechanic of reskinning. Sure, the lore behind it makes sense, but that doesn't excuse the game mechanic of what it IS.

I love the variations to be honest, but, I know why they're there. It seems like GF wants to buff and change old designs instead of introducing new ones. Which isn't bad in terms of using what you've got - but the whole appeal of having new generations of Pokemon is just to introduce more, if this is the route they're going, we're going to be looking at a cap on Pokemon, and future games that just introduce variants

>>27474442
Pokemon species are defined by egg groups

So there are only fifteen species of Pokemon? A Lanturn is the same species as a Sharpedo?

>>27469242
Is not like in real time we don't have more than one exact and same looking type of animal, right?

oh wait

>>27470451
Thank you for telling that other idiot off, and with a great explanation. Ignore the salty replies

>>27473772
dragon fruit

>>27470463
That's what Megas are for

I would actually accept an ice ground mega sandslash before this

>>27474932
>if this is the route they're going, we're going to be looking at a cap on Pokemon, and future games that just introduce variants


This is inevitable.

Sooner or later it becomes unfeasible to make more pokemon. Too many niches already filled, too many concepts and designs already tapped. I love new pokemon, but I'd prefer to see smaller numbers of new pokemon with more interesting designs and mechanics alongside regional variants of older pokemon than a more bloated pokedex with multiple redundancies and forced designs.

Naturally this is all subjective though, but to me its the right choice.

>>27470654
Actually yes, that's the whole idea

>>27474932
>if this is the route they're going, we're going to be looking at a cap on Pokemon, and future games that just introduce variants
Which isn't entirely a bad thing, unlike say Digimon or Yokai Watch, Alolan Forms seem to change everything. Hell, design wise they can't really be considered recolors as much as redesigns.

In any case, it builds the world and finally shows the rules that Pokemon has been mentioning over the years.

>>27473772
>Frisk

HOW?
HOW CAN IT FRISK?

>>27474733

>don't buy the jew definition that has literally helped in aiding the understanding of modern biology and medicine.

As opposed to what? Buying the shitty old "race" definitions that included several south asian populations as "Negroid"?

Also,

http://news.ucsc.edu/2013/03/polar-bear-genomics.html

>>27475083
You are aware that both types of evolution exist in the Pokemon world right?

So I like the concept of species variations but why ice for Vulpix/Ninetails, and why in pseudo-Hawaii of all places?

>>27475056
But why introduce new ones at all? All or nothing. If they released Alola without the shit starters, new legends, and just made it a bunch of Megas and alola forms, that'd be great

Here's another question, are we going to see a rerelease of all the regions incorporating Megas and variations moving forwards now that the 20th anniversary is over?

I don't care what people say, regional forms should've happened a long time ago. Hell, they're talked about in Gen 1!

Regional forms are way better than megas.

>>27475176
>Here's another question, are we going to see a rerelease of all the regions incorporating Megas and variations moving forwards now that the 20th anniversary is over?
I doubt it.

>>27475147
Sure but no matter how deep the lore is, this is a video game franchise - one that has always worked by using different evolutionary method to evolve Pokemon in the Pokemon sense

>>27474474
It would be interesting, but a magma slug evolving into a fire/ice hybrid is kinda hard to explain from an evolutionary point of view, unlike say sandslash and vulpix.
I mean magma simply doesn't work that way at lower temperatures, and it might generate conflicting pokedex entries.

>>27474611
>adaptation is a part of evolution.
True, but in the case of slugma becoming an ice type it'd be such an enormous evolutionary change that it would be a completely different pokemon altogether, unlike say ice vulpix.

>>27475176
>But why introduce new ones at all? All or nothing. If they released Alola without the shit starters, new legends, and just made it a bunch of Megas and alola forms, that'd be great

Why not have new pokemon? New pokemon are exciting. But its getting to the stage where realistically we're going to get them in more moderated amounts.

>Here's another question, are we going to see a rerelease of all the regions incorporating Megas and variations moving forwards now that the 20th anniversary is over?

Sooner or later, probably. I'd expect another Kanto remake at some point.

>>27475284
>but a magma slug evolving into a fire/ice hybrid is kinda hard to explain from an evolutionary point of view
Something about it heating up to near critical levels so it covered itself in ice to cool down?

>>27472695
>Being this blind
That's a normal sharpedo you dumb fuck.

>>27475242
>one that has always worked by using different evolutionary method to evolve Pokemon
Except that every Pokemon game has mentioned this type of evolution but it has never been shown.

Now it has.

>>27475242
>one that has always worked by using different evolutionary method to evolve Pokemon in the Pokemon sense
From Magikarp's entry

>In the distant past, it was somewhat stronger than the horribly weak descendants that exist today.
This type was always implied to exist in Pokemon.

>>27475349
Because new Pokemon justify the purchase, desu. Nintendo, or more specifically game freak, need to get with the times. Release a big online Pokemon game that can get patched with new variations, the only thing that justifies new regions or remakes is to coalesce all the changes made up to the release of that game. If nothing (((new))) was added, then they ought to keep it on one version. I'm also pissed because i have boxes on boxes of teams in ORAS and now I'm going to have to get all the items back because of Pokemon Bank shenanigans

>>27469242
>Call it a new pokemon
But you have a whole group of autists crying because they didn't?

>>27474961

Lore and mechanics wise in some ways they are. Mew is considered the most recent genetic ancestor of all pokemon (barring legendaries I think) while ditto is capable of viably mating and producing offspring with all pokemon (barring legendaries).

>>27475136
I came here to ask this very question.

>>27475395
I keep hearing this, but I can't think of any examples other than shellos and basculin

Can you show me some mega compilation pic that has examples of pokedex entries

>>27474758
Why does it have to edgy?

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>>27475136

Are you sure you want to find out?

>>27474758
>lanturn should be the only bioluminescent deep sea Pokemon

>>27475502
Durant

>>27475693
What does it say about durant

Perhaps a variation on Wailord or a variation on one of the jellyfish to make it like a box jelly?

>>27475655
Name one other. Even when you walk on the sea floor only Chinchou.

>>27475926
>should be

>>27475284

> but in the case of slugma becoming an ice type it'd be such an enormous evolutionary change that it would be a completely different pokemon altogether,

Not necessarily,

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endotherm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antifreeze_protein

If Slugma adapted to have Antifreeze proteins on the outer most layers of it's body but still kept it's inner most core at a constant warm temperature by way of shivering it cold achieve some odd ice form on it's surface.

>>27473699
What's the explanation for Ninetails?

>>27476169
>It is said that Vulpix came to the Alola region together with humans, but the Fox Pokémon moved to the snowy mountain peaks to avoid the normal habitats of other Pokémon, and thus it ended up taking on this form.

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>Scyther doesn't evolve into Scizor it just changes form

A new meme to plague this board. this just like mew can't learn crabhammer all over again

>>27475502
Man do you know how long that is?
Just take this list and search yourself

Arbok (to an extent)
Magikarp
Rowan's field of research
Zubat
Durant
Doduo
Archen
Mamoswine

All lean towards the real life type of evolution/natural selection/mutations/subspecies etc that would produce variants, there's more but I need to shit.

>people are actually retarded enough to say Scizor is the same thing
I guess the same can be said for every evolution now. Seems we've all been blind to how lazy GF is from the very beginning and needed this to open our eyes.

>>27470090
snow is just cold white sand

>>27469242
Retypings existed in the TCG over 10 years ago.

>>27469381
Yes it is. They may even be a little better, we dont know

>>27477111
The best part is that they're getting neat redesigns too this time.

>>27470171
Because Masuda is finally taking less control over the franchise.

>>27469242
You literally just described the transition from gen 1 to gen 2.

>fire type to ice type
>ground to ice
>on a tropical island known for being sunny and warm
Pretend I posted a confused anime girl.

Oh good, because I was just thinking that instead of a bunch of good, solid, well-designed NEW Pokémon, I wanted a bunch of crap and reworked old Pokémon.

SPOILER ALERT: Your favorite Pokémon from past generations still sucks, but fan-favorites get total make overs and mega evolutions.

>>27473488
you are not a able to change the forms of pokemon like this though. you cant turn a east gastrodon into a west gastrodon.

>>27470451
Good thing all the Mouse Pokemon are the same type, huh? And the Puppy Pokemon, too.

>>27477480
Anon I'm talking about the Pokedex.
The form you see is in the dex can be changed.

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>>27477424
I have your back famalam

>>27470426
nobody wanted this

>>27477424
Post a retarded anime girl because Hawaii has snow capped mountains and so does Alola.

>>27477549
People have been wanting it since they mentioned variants in gen 1.

>>27476097
>If Slugma adapted to have Antifreeze proteins on the outer most layers of it's body but still kept it's inner most core at a constant warm temperature by way of shivering it cold achieve some odd ice form on it's surface.
You'd have "Magcargo but not really".
You could have an additional evolution which cooled down enough for ice crystals to form on it, but you'd have to pick whether you want a fire/ice or a rock/ice pokemon.

and besides that, the problem of water based organisms regarding freezing temperatures is different compared to that of a magma based organism.
It'd be possible but would most likely require an additional step.

That or it's infected with heat draining ice parasits or something, kinda like parasect

But this shit is going a little too deep for a pokemon game.

>>27477424
>what are mountains

>>27469242
I won't have as much of a problem if they at least did Pokemon from every gen not just typical pandering to a group of fans who haven't bothered staying with the series since the start and abandoned ship

Fuck genwunners

>WAAAAH THEY MADE A PU SHITMON IN EXEGGCUTOR MOST LIKELY USEABLE IN BATTLES NOW

kill yourself you babyback bitch faggot cuckold nigger.

>>27475136
because it's so high up it has a birds eye view so it can see the opponents item?

>There will only be gen 1 alolan pokemon because of muh gen 1 pandering

I fucking hate gamefreak

>>27474788
Do it to Milotic then. Big bioluminescent oarfish is still cool as hell.

>>27475469
They can barely handle the server load incurred from 3DS online connectivity, an MMO would be catastrophic. Imagine the lag of Pokemon Crater right when everyone got home from school, only in an official game. Hardware advances or not, it'd be the same deal.

>>27475728
"Individuals each play different roles in driving Heatmor, their natural predator, away from their colony."
In real ant colonies there are generally three types of ant -- soldier, worker, and the queen (in addition to some males produced for breeding iirc, it's been a while.) They all look different from one another, they all have different behaviors, and workers are specialized even beyond that with some scouting for food and others eating lots of a food to take it back to feed soldiers, who often can't eat due to their mandibles being too big. (Honeypot ants.)

Soldiers also come out differently sometimes into a genetic mutation that USED to be common in the past, but is now no longer considered necessary by the hive, called super-soldier ants. Sometimes they pop up in the wild, I took a photo of one on my back porch a few weeks ago. They have massive heads that were once used to seal off tunnels in raids by other colonies. Cool shit.

Durant's 'dex entry indicates that Durants are similar to real ants and are specialized for their various roles, we just only see one kind of them. Probably the soldiers, given that Trainers are "invaders" to them.

Just personally I like the variations we're seeing but I do worry that it can lessen the amount of new Pokemon we will get. Still hyped, though.

>>27469242
>retype old pokemon
>swap around the stats
>make slight visual adjustments
>call it a new Pokemon

Pokemon was apparently dead since 6th gen. Who knew.

>>27478564
>>call it a new Pokemon
Said no one ever. Alolan Pokemon even have their own category on the site.

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>>27469242
>"Call it a new Pokemon"
>Alolan Vulpix is still called Vulpix
>Alolan Ninetales is still called Ninetales

>>27478620
So did mega pokemon. My point was mega pokemon
people said this the day megas were confirmed

>>27469242
Never once did they say New Pokemon

>>27478878
Not the sharpest tool in the shed are you.

>>27469242
>revisit old pokemon
>leave the stats the same
>make no visual design changes
>call it the same pokemon
Clearly Pokemon died in Generation 2.
If you think remixing the old Pokemon some to keep them fresh is lazy, then how lazy isn't it to just import old Pokemon exactly as they were before?
At the very least now the overlap will be both familiar and fresh, instead of just familiar and the same old same old.

Do you seriously want to walk through a cave and encounter another damn Zubat for the 1000th time across generations? No this is better. I'll gladly take the dragonfruit palmtree dragon, and the icy Ninetales fox.

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>>27479332
>we'll eventually get a game where subspecies are mixed in but are slightly rarer to break up the monotony

we MH now
>pokemon hunting /WHEN/

>>27476778
fair enough, but that still doesn't mean that they can't make more new pokemon, evos for old ones, and megas

so fucking hype

>>27469370
you fucking idiot I've seen you say "blame to (thing)" in like 50 threads already, in english the phrase is just "blame (thing)", there is no fucking "to" in it.

>>27469575
>Active Spiky-eared Zen Cosplay Primal Origin Contest Fusion Unbound Alolan Rayquaza X and Y Forme 2 Electric Boogalo

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>>27475138

>>27469242
They don't call them new Pokémon. They call them Alolan Pokémon/forms.

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>>27469242
>No megas yet

Did GF forget about them? are they that autistic?

>>27472695

Normal Sharpedo with armor looking saddle.

>>27470732
>tfw the add-on gunpod remoraids were never used as a mechanic

>>27481174
Good, I want megas to die with gen 6

do you think this means the original forms will be getting access to a ton of new egg moves? this could add a ton of versatility to old mons.

>>27469242
>sandslash
>not ground type at all

YOU HAD ONE JOB!

>>27482685

Never ever, son.

>>27482778

This is the worst part of these bullshit Alola forms.

>>27470090
>Sandshrew (Japanese: サンド Sand)
holy shit, its literally sand

>>27483085
>>27469407
>>27470090

Sandshrew have historically lived in desert areas. But the frequent eruptions of nearby volcanoes drove the Sandshrew to abandon the desert and migrate to jungle landscapes.

Sandshrew have historically lived in desert areas. But the frequent eruptions of nearby volcanoes drove the Sandshrew to abandon the desert and migrate to adapt to the magma in their new environment.


Sandshrew have historically lived in desert areas. But the frequent eruptions of nearby volcanoes drove the Sandshrew to extinction.

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Please god give Farfetch'd a nice variant

It's all I want

>>27472629
Ice/rock fo' sho

>>27469242
this is the most meta joke i've ever seen on this board. you glued scizor on the end there to make a joke about how pokemon has been doing this already for years and we've all loved it. really clever

>>27480866
if you knew anything about genetic biology you wouldn't have made that (ironically, correct) piss-poor meme graphic, which, by the way, you totally botched with the paintbucket tool by missing all that empty space closed inside letters. but it's okay because you totally won that argument

I'll never understand why people get so assdisturbed over mostly optional shit. Are you trying to die young by giving yourself an early stress-induced heart attack? Besides, most of us are technically supposed to have outgrown Pokemon by now. Let kids have their fun; the games were designed for them after all. I'm sure there's an office cubicle somewhere for each of us stuffy old grown ups to waste away in.

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Now where have I seen Vulpix and Sandshrew before?

>>27475655
>>27475926
Lumineon exists

>there are people on this board that actually WANT every generation to be a rehash
What the fuck, fags?
Changing up the formula and keeping things interesting is what you people have been claiming to want every god damn generation.

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>>27471650

it's a dragon tree anon