>people hating on XY >new, check out the pokdex since I

It's piss easy.

>>27450526
It has a great Pokemon roster, character customisation is good, and Shauna makes for good porn.

There, I summed up the only three good things about XY.

>>27450526
>since I just got Y
How about you play through the whole fucking game first, then come back on here

>>27450526
People hate XY because flying type pokemon fly

>>27450526
>new Pokémon
Less than half of what we got a gen before.

Only retards complain about XY's pokédex.
The rest complains about almost everything else

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>>27450548
too bad she looks weird ingame

It's easy (which I don't mind because I almost always do challenge runs)

Pacing issues (it can be really boring on a second playthrough when you are just trying to get to the second gym but have to aimlessly wander around Lumiose)

Some people hate the casualized overworld, and not having an agonizingly boring water route forced on you, or having to navigate labyrinthine caves while being perpetually molested by zubats. I love that XY trimmed the fat here

I will take everything in the thread to heart and make it my opinion rather than play the game myself because I am apart of the new generation.

>>27450526
The game is alright, but terrible for us veteran players for two reasons
>Insultingly easy main game
>No post-game at all

>>27450578
it's not ingame only

>>27450526
>new pokemon
but XY effectively have no new pokemon

The large Pokedex is more of a burden than you think.

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Look at this guy

How can you hate this design? It's 100x cooler than Sudowoodo

>>27450578
Was her Goodra male? Because this picture is doing things to my lower body.

>people on /vp/ always post their first Hall of Fame team whenever they finish a game
>during the first couple weeks of XY, people would post their teams
>literally almost everyone had the exact same teams every time

For other generations, there was some variety in people's team, but everyone had the same exact fucking team in XY. Fucking everyone. It was the saddest thing.

Yeah,i enjoy catching old pokemon i've caugh in old games,instead of new ones,yes so fun,op.

>>27450620
One of 6th gens worst designs. And this is coming from someone who absolutely loves Phantump.

>>27450630

Would you happen to remember the team?

>>27450620
>>27450643
I too love Phantump and think Trevenant looks like garbage.

>>27450586
Trimmed the fat so that the region has zero substance and so XY has zero content.
Thank you, Game Freak!

>>27450526
Way too easy. Very bland characters, shitty story. One of the worst after games. X and Y just feels like it's missing something important.

>>27450526

>story feels rushed, characters are weak
>lacking post-game (like most of the first new-gen games)

>first 3D mainline Pokemon games
>the long-awaited character customization
>Mega Evolutions
>Super Training
>PokeFrance is beautiful
>by far the biggest regional dex
>has great new Pokemon but also many from Gen 1-5, feeling like a bigger and better Pokemon game instead of an expy of itself (*cough*Hoenn/BW1*cough*)

X and Y were great overall, they just needed a Pokemon Z to fix the story and add more post-game.

>>27450630

What was trending?

Assuming it was mostly new pokes, I'm guessing talonflame, trevanant, goodra, hawlucha, heliolisk, and a starter

>>27450653
>>27450643

whoa, completely shit taste

probably furrshit trash that is mentally ill

>>27450669
I really don't get complaints like "shitty story" and "bland characters". Every Pokemon game has "bland characters". I can't think of any compelling characters in a Pokemon game. And the story is honestly probably one of the best, and maybe the best if we consider how it was done versus how good the idea is (BW had great concepts for a story but really didn't do that well with it).

>>27450651
Almost every team was Starter, Fossil, Second Starter, mega doge, Lapras and Snorlax.

I'm talking a good 80% of the teams post in the hall of fame threads.

>>27450675
>By far the biggest regional dex
>Implying this is good.
It's fucking boring seeing the same old pokemon i've seen in 20 years,how the fuck people enjoy seeing zubat? why do pokemon fans hate variety of new pokemon and wants the same old shit in every dex.

>>27450701
Don't forget Sylveon. I remember Sylveon being on every team more than the Snorlax.

>>27450697
That's some heavy projection there anon.

>>27450526
Too many pokemon result in terrible availability. While Scyther is technically in the dex, you can't actually get it until the route just before Victory Road, for example.
its also way too easy, especially coming off B2W2 with challenge mode.

>>27450701
Sounds familar

>>27450620
Not really because Sudowoodo is 10/10.

>>27450675
>*cough*
These are the people that unironically like XY.

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>>27450701
>My first team had 5/6 of these pokémon

>>27450709
This.
That's why i loved Black and White,new and fresh pokemon insteand of fucking tentacool and zubat again,seriously you don't get extremely tired of seeing the same old pokemon in every game?

>>27450727

>everyone who calls you a furry is projecting

sounds like when I call gay people faggots they tell me I'm a closet homosexual

at least now i know for sure you are a furshit, probably a homo as well

>>27450700
That's true. But every generation had at least one interesting character. Blue, Silver, Cyrus, N and Ghetsis. Sinnoh and Unova had good villains and I wanted GF to continue the trend in gen 6. Team Flare was so forgettable. The admins didn't even have names.

>>27450734
>Too many pokemon result in terrible availability. While Scyther is technically in the dex, you can't actually get it until the route just before Victory Road, for example.
What does that even mean. There's always Pokemon that aren't available until late. And availability was not bad at all as far as being able to find something you want. It's the kind of issue that I can only imagine someone thinking of if they just saw the dex being so big without really considering how it was implimented.

>>27450701
1/6 for my first team.

>>27450785
Blue, Silver, and Ghetsis are not interesting characters, and Lysandre definitely IS an interesting character, ESPECIALLY if you consider N to be one considering it's roughly in the same character archetype, so if the qualifying of being "good" is having one interesting character XY still has that.

>>27450701
Why would this be an issue with the game itself

>>27450788
>Defending Kalos dex
Just stop dude,kalos dex is trash is repetitive and boring,even more after coming of a new fresh generation like BW.
Variety,is a good thing,but finding older pokemon constantly isn't variety it's annoyance.

>>27450701

That's because gift Pokemon are the only ones with decent levels for when you get them.

Otherwise it's relying on the EXP share to level up which actually makes the power creep worse instead of better.

>filter out everything pokemon related on chrome so I can play XY completely blind
>didn't even know about fairy types until I played it
>after beating elite four I realize that the only gen 6 pokemon I have is my starter
>look up the Kalos pokedex because Im confused as fuck trying to remember the new pokemon
>dont know if I just missed them or what
>only 70 or something
Man, I was pissed

>>27450809
>ESPECIALLY if you consider N to be one
Not really, if Lysandre is as similar as you say, then it'll just feel boring and repetitive.
XY is still down to 0.

>>27450544
Try a nuzlocke, you cat piss.

>>27450526

>barely any post game
>pacing takes an absolute nose dive after the 3rd gym
>so many freebies trivalizes the game
>framerate issues
>no move tutors
>most of the new moves are exclusive to the new pokemon

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>>27450709

There is literally one route in the entire game with Zubat, and it takes like 10 seconds to pass outside of encounters.

You know, because the regional dex is so large that they don't have to rely on spamming the same Pokemon over and over. Unlike Hoenn or BW1, which has Zubat or totally-not-Zubat in every cave.

>>27450858
that doesn't change much
>free starter
>free mega lucario
>only trainer with six pokemon is you, the champion, and probably some fisherman with six magikarps

>>27450809
>Lysandre definitely IS an interesting character
Good one

>>27450809
Lysandre is alright but he's too similar to Cyrus, and Cyrus was a better villain.

>>27450851
I said "roughly in the same scharacter archetype" that archetype being "the bad guy who isn't all bad". If you think you can't make two interesting characters with that broad of a category then I don't know what to tell you.

name one town in pokemon XY that isn't Lumiose city
I honestly can't

>>27450788
>And availability was not bad at all as far as being able to find something you want.

Unless you hit a brick wall later on and none of the Pokemon that are currently in the area can bail you out.

Like, what if Wulfric gives you trouble? You aren't catching shit that's helpful around Snowbelle and any further back and you need to grind heavily

That's what bad availability means.

>>27450701
2/6 for me.

I had Greninja, Charizard, Shaymin, Gardevoir, Raichu, and Tropius.

>>27450892
I don't give a damn.
I buy the game to see the new region and the new mons,so yes,fuck off kalos and his boring region filled with old pokemon.
>they don't have to rely on spamming the same Pokemon over and over.
Yes,because finding old pokemon it isn't as boring as spamming the same pokemon over and over,don't make me laugh

>>27450927
Lysandre isn't like Cyrus at all, what the fuck.

>>27450862

Also forgot to add

>game adds a new type of EXP share, but the game isn;t balanced around the fact which makes your guys massively over-leveled compared to the rest of the enemies.

>>27450526
thats just a silly meme
its the best gen to date OP

>>27450701
Would it be 1/6 or 2/6?
Greninja/Blaziken/Crobat/Garchomp/Aegislash/Gardevoir

>>27450935
You don't need to grind heavily, that's what the experience share was for, and one of its unsung strengths, allowng late caught Pokemon to be usable. And no, fuck you, you can't have it both ways. it can't be too easy and then also have you hit a brick wall., and you have fly as with all games so it isn't an issue of "backtracking".

>>27450701
>Using Mega Doge, Lapras and Snorlax
Surprised event Blaziken isn't on there but I guess every Charizardfag already had a Fire type anyways.

>>27450709
>Literally one area with Zubat in XY
>Hurr Hurr zubats everywhere

>>27450892
>There is literally one route in the entire game with Zubat

This describes the majority of all Pokemon in X/Y and that's why it's a weak ass game imo

>>27450849
It doesn't help that a lot of the grass is 100% optional, so you might miss a lot of shit.

>>27450932
Laverre City. Dendemille town though admittedly I cant spell it.
Campfrier town.

Thats more than I can do for Hoenn
>mauville
>Lillycove
>something tree
And I played ORAS more recently

I just got X and I noticed the pacing is weird

I chose chespin as my starter and thought of what kind of pokemon to catch and make my team.

Then I was handed a fucking charmandar. What the fuck. Also my team so far consists of only 1 gen 6 pkmn and thats my starter a fucked up thing is I now consider charmander my starter instead of chespin

>>27450983
Because it has variety?

>>27450932
Kiloude and Laverre

>>27450932
camphrier town is right next to the daycare/mansion and the berry route and the palace and is comfy as fuck

>>27451008
Muh-muh variety.
Really,who gives a damn?
Seeing the new pokemon are the priority in the game,and when you finish the main game you go to online,so your point?

>>27450701
Jokes on you I had All three starters. The free Mega Blaziken gave me the FWG trifecta

>>27450983
Because you can't find zubat except in one place?

>>27450932
Geosenge and Snowbelle.

>>27451037
Even if you for some reason ltierally only want to play with new Pokemon, I do so as well almost exclusively (in this game, only exceptions was the second starter), and if you actually only want new pokemon that are very well distributed and are not hard to find at all if that's what you want.

>>27451039
In one place literally called "Zubat Roost" I might add.

I was excited to find 300 Zubats there and made sure to have plenty of Luxury balls to get crobat ASAP.

Whismur for fucking weeks on end

>>27451037
>I don't care so nobody does

Are you autistic?

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>>27450858
Nuzlockes are shit and I wish it never became popular because of people like you who seem to think it's the perfect "challenge" mode when the games aren't remotely designed around it and a single crit can fuck up 10+ hours of progress.

>>27450932
santalune

>>27450578
She's hit and miss in game, with her overworld model looking the worst but her in-battle model looking alright. Art does her a lot of justice though... I mean, look at those legs.

>>27450623
Throughout the game it's male, but if that's not your thing then you're in luck, because the one that she uses in her Battle Maison team is female, so whichever one gets your rocks off is canon.

>>27450526
The way they implemented this many Pokemon was atrocious. There was little rhyme or reason to Pokemon distribution, routes were oversaturated with Pokemon, and rare Pokemon like Bagon, Absol, Axew, and Ralts were common af even before the second gym. Ironically, Taillow was super rare.

>>27451062
>I-I Like to finding the same old pokemon over and over instead of new ones...!
I fucking hate genwunners like you,that's the reason we don't have another BW,fuck off you and you fucking "variety" of caterpies and abras.

>>27451090
Taillow wasn't "rare" in the sense of being hard to find.
>Complaing that you can get normally late game Pokemon early enough to matter
just

>>27451008
>>27451039

Because there's no cohesion.

It makes no sense that of all the caves in the game, the different bat Pokemon exist in only one of each. Hell, two of those caves are right next to each other.

Why do Pidgey and Fletchling, Pokemon widely considered to be common, stop appearing after route 3 entirely?

Why are Espurr and Honedge found on exactly one route alongside the likes of Kecleon, Sentret, and fucking Oddish?

Why does Helioptile, the new electric type Pokemon, have the lowest encounter rate on his route, and it's entirely likely you won't know the fucker exists unless you dick around for ten minutes more than you need?

>>27450643
>>27450653
>>27450752
Are you guys for fucking real?>>27450620
Trevanent is easily 10/10, gtfo underage.

>>27451114
Why are you so pissed off? Relax man, that isn't healthy at all

>>27451119
Yes, that is why I'm complaining. The strongest weapons should not be easily obtainable at the game's beginning. Please don't make me explain why.

Taillow was extremely hard to encounter. Did you even play the games? Did you not catch them all?

Why is /vp/ the only place where XY isn't liked?

Is this the power of contrarianism ?

>>27450953
Business people who put out a fake image that want to create a perfect world?

>>27451119

>Horde encounter with a 5% chance of occurring isn't considered hard to find

>>27451159
>strongest weapons
>in a pokemon game

lmao you serious?

>So many different Pokémon crammed into one route that it makes encountering a specific one a pain in the dick.
>Blandest Music in the entire series
> The evil team is a less interesting version of Galactic.
>Annoying characters stop progression to battle you with weak teams and constantly suck you off and tell you that you're amazing.
>Pointless and tedious riding on Pokémon routes that take forever to finish.
I hate the X/Y is good meme.

>>27451151
I swear to god some people can't be pleased. What the fuck do you mean by "cohesion". How would having pidgey and shit appear after route 3 be "cohesive"? Does it improve gameplay? Why does it matter that Espurr and Honedge can be found by all those others? Is there some reason they can't be? How would it be more "cohesive" if they weren't? If you wanted to know where to find out, you could look it up. The 3DS even has a built in function to do so. You'd be missing a spot in the dex for that area even if you had no idea Helioptile exists ignoring the fact it was one of the more popularized Pokemon during spoiler season.

>>27451157
BECAUSE I WANTED MY NEW POKEMON YOU UNDERSTAND IT???
SEEING CATERPIES,PIDGEYS AND ABRAS IN A NEW GAME INSTEAD OF THE NEW ONES MAKES ME CRY AND ANGRY,YOU DON'T GET IT??? I NEED MY NEW POKEMON I NEED THEEEEM

>>27451240
>How would having pidgey and shit appear after route 3 be "cohesive"?

Because it makes common Pokemon actually common and places them in locations that make sense instead of just slapping Bagon, Absol, Drifloon and Spoink on a seaside cliff and saying THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE

>>27451184
Sweet Scent, I actively caught all Pokemon in each area before progressing and it was not hard to find at all if you actually wanted it.
>>27451159
They don't become "the strongest weapons" until later in the game when they evolve, and one of the distinctions of those Pokemon is that they evolve very late. They were useless to unusable in-game previously because they came so late or were otherwise unavailable until post game.

>>27451235
>Blandest Music in the entire series

That would be gen 5 anon, and to be honest "the X/Y is bad" is more of a meme

>>27451065
but le bromons xDD

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>playing Y
>trainer name starts with D
>my nickname becomes Big D

>>27451278
How does Bagon and Drifloon not make sense there? Having Pidgey there would not have improved the gameplay a lick, and would have given us fewer Pokemon to choose from. Why the fuck is realism even your first fucking issue in a Pokemon game?

>>27451315
WHY THE FUCK YOU DEFEND OLD POKEMON OVERSHADOWING NEW ONES,FUCKING WHY? IT'S A FUCKING UNACCEPTABLE THING THAT GF DID,AND IT NEEDS TO BE CRITIQUIZED BECAUSE IT'S SHIT.
NEW POKEMON NEVER NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVER SHOULD BE OVERSHADOWING,STOP DEFENDING YOUR DAMN CATERPIE.

>>27450932
Snowbelle has possibly the best town theme since the Gameboy days. That's the town I love best. I wish it was bigger.

>>27451008
There's such a thing as too much variety. XY has so much variety that it's a detriment. The region has no cohesion when it comes to wild encounters, if you take two steps suddenly every Pokémon nearby changes to a completely different one. It's like a fucking zoo. And this is on top of the issues already said by other anons like Kalos Pokémon getting the shaft and availability being fucked. The anon who mentioned Wulfric has a point, pretty much every Gym has a nearby Pokémon for you to grab to counter it.

>you can get an Onix in Violet City against Falkner
>you can use that same Onix or get a Geodude in Union Cave for Bugsy, assuming you don't already have a Flying-type
>you can grab a Machop in a trade in Goldenrod
>they give you an Eevee in Goldenrod, which can evolve into Espeon or Umbreon, both of which are good against the Gastly line in Ecruteak
>>in HGSS specifically you can also grab a Scrappy Miltank in the route to the west
>Tentacruel and Mantine both resist all of Chuck's STABs, Girafarig on Route 43
>tons of Water-types to tackle Jasmine, plus Machop and Geodude in Mt. Mortar
>Machop again works against Pryce, can get Pineco north of Mahogany to evolve into a Steel-type
>fucking Ice Cave is next to the Dragon-type leader


And Johto has piss poor wild distribution compared to most other regions. If Kalos can't do this something is wrong.

>>27451293
Eh, I disagree, but I really shouldn't have put that as a point since music is subjective. I think my other points stand up though, and while I don't personally think X/Y are bad games, they certainly aren't good.

>>27451163
That's an extremely broad category. How the characters actually are is totally different.

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>>27451359
>There's such a thing as too much variety. XY has so much variety that it's a detriment. The region has no cohesion when it comes to wild encounters

this is the most autistic thing I've ever read

>>27451037
Hoenn suffer from the same issue
>the same 3 mons in every route
>good hoenn mons as rare encounters, dont appear in the wild or late game

>>27451413
I- D-O-N-T C-A-R-E
I WANT TO SEE THE NEW POKEMON,WHAT THE FUCK YOU DON'T GET?

>>27451162
Here we like Pokemon so much we aren't scared to talk about flaws in a game, or what we don't like

>>27451400
I think I can put it into better terms. The region has no IDENTITY

>>27451293
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9X6uXyylJE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_2u6EDx6c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wn0Fe3FKbco
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqQmxy-M40k (though the official remix https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3r0iaj_Bzc is better)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xc_0wfIuuzw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrnRrSpTz20

Find me seven Kalos songs that match up to these. Unova's actually only my fourth favorite region musically (Johto, Sinnoh and Hoenn all beat it out) but it has tons of good tracks compared to Kalos.

>>27451400
Have you ever played a hack of a later-Gen game like that tries to shove all 493/649/721 Pokémon into a single region without any care?

Kalos is like an official ROMhack when it comes to wild distribution. I don't see how that's autistic.

>>27451469
That's a better term, thanks anon.

>>27451400
The use of "cohesion" here is practically meaningless and mostly amounts to a buzzword. Encoutnering the same old geodudes and zubats and such in every region was so prevalent it became a meme. I think the way they did BW was an attempt to remedy that and contrary to how /vp/ in general might consider it now, it was extremely poorly recieved on release, and XY was another attempt to rectify it by just having every area have its own selection of Pokemon, which allows people to use all their favorites, give variety to the people who want to try something new, and contrary to people saying it excacerbated the problem of fewer new Pokemon, the new ones were very well distributed and reasonable to acquire if you actually wanted to get one. Even for example the Helioptile thing brought up earlier has you stuck on the route that you have to almsot literally drag yourself through, at least twice, so the odds of not actually encountering it are extremely low, and of the three playthroughs I've done, without even using it, have I ever had an issue of it not appearing. And even if it didn't, seeing someone use it puts in the dex so you can find it if you want it, on top of the GTS.

>>27450586
TOO BAD THEY ALSO TRIMMED THE HAUNTED LOCATION

>>27451472
Accidentally only posted six, have this as a seventh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKqRMfquvgY

>>27450858
ah the old "do self imposed challenges" as an excuse for terrible difficult and balancing.

>>27451469
>no identity

How dare you, Game Freak poured thousands of hours into google translating shop names into French.

>>27451503
>XY was another attempt to rectify it by just having every area have its own selection of Pokemon, which allows people to use all their favorites, give variety to the people who want to try something new, and contrary to people saying it excacerbated the problem of fewer new Pokemon, the new ones were very well distributed and reasonable to acquire if you actually wanted to get one.

Is that why 90% of Gen VI Pokemon had the lowest/second lowest encounter rate on one route and would never be seen again?

>>27451503
>I want to use the old pokemon in my waltrought that's why i don't want the new pokemon begin relevant
Move on,people.

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I've always disliked X and Y.

> Extremely small roster
> Appeals mainly to Genwunners (Why does Mewtwo and Charizard get 2 megas and there are no Gen 5 megas?)
> No postgame (excluding Looker missions. Even they were lackluster)
> Beyond easy (I never had to grind in this game, unlike every other Pokemon game)
> ROUTE 13. FUCK THIS ROUTE.
> Shit story. Not even Black and White's story was this terrible.
> Building onto the story, no explanation for AZ or Zygarde? The fuck?
> Having to fight at the Battle Chateau for ridiculous amounts of time to get good items (Assault vest).

>>27451469
How exactly did a region have "identity" before? What exactly is missing? Every region had a mixture of old and new Pokemon except BW, and the selection of old ones there as far as I recall didn't especially emphasize any "identity" they might have had. People keep using these words and phrases that you can't quantify as reasons for the Pokedex set up being bad.

>>27451582
you people bitch about the lack of battle frontier but you also bitch about having to use similar facilities to get good stuff

>>27450983

I fail to see why that makes it a weak game. There's actually so many Pokemon that every route is mostly different ones. There are literally 450 to choose from.

>>27450946

I'm not saying don't give any new Pokemon. But a balance of old and new (X/Y only had 72 new Pokemon but also a bunch of brand new Megas) is for the best. When a game has nothing but new Pokemon, it just ends up feeling like an expy of itself.

Kanto has Pidgeot. Johto has Noctowl, which is an owl with Psychic moves. Hoenn has Swellow, which differentiates itself from Pidgeot by fucking being blue. Sinnoh has Staraptor, which while similar in concept looks far more unique than Swellow. Unova has Unfezant, which is either Swellow with a mask or a less interesting Staraptor. Kalos has Talonflame, which is a completely different type in Fire/Flying and has the design to match.

Kanto has Raticate. Johto has Furret, which is a completely different animal. Hoenn has Linoone, which is LITERALLY FURRET WITH A DIFFERENT FACE WHY HAS NOBODY NOTICED THIS? Sinnoh has Bibarel, which is again a different animal as well as being Normal/Water. Unova has Watchog, which is a unique animal, but also looks atrocious. Kalos has Diggersby, which doesn't even look anywhere close to the same and is Normal/Ground.

When a game is "all new Pokemon!" how many of those Pokemon just end up being expies of Pokemon we already had? It just feels like they're trying to "reboot" themselves without actually changing much. Whereas with a balance of old and new, not only does it feel like a proper Pokemon game expanded, but the new ideas are actually allowed to be more creative.

>>27451563
Got something to back up that 90% versus all the other pokemon on the route and how that would stop someone that actively wants to use XY Pokemon only? The numbers don't mean anything by themselves. If you actually played the game with the goal of using only new Pokemon, it isn't difficult at all.

>>27451616
First, I never bitched about a lack of a Battle Frontier. Second, it's different. At least the Battle Frontier had variety. The Chateau doesn't.

>>27451634
>When a game has nothing but new Pokemon, it just ends up feeling like an expy of itself

And when a game shoves new Pokemon to the wayside it feels like more of a reshash than it already does because it's fucking Pokemon.

>>27451525
Actually X and Y's nuzlocke just made me hate the region even fucking more. I think that was the official point of, you know what, this place is total horseshit. Nuzlockes have let me appreciate every game more EXECPT Kalos

>>27451676
Both are true.

>>27451304
My nickname was Big C

>all these boring kalos haters muh no new pokemon muh unova muh too much old pokemon muh too much friends... (forever)
>all these unovabortions hating new stuff the same way as the most hated thing for them, boring genwunners

>>27451638

I'm not arguing that Gen VI only runs are impossible, I don't know why you think that's my premise.

My only point is that distribution in the wild is way too erratic, arbitrary, and biased in favor of established Pokemon.

>>27451676
That's why Bw2 are the best. It's a good mix. More than half are from the new gen. In Kalos less than 15%

>>27450701
My team was Delphox, (M) Venusaur, Hawlucha, Sliggoo, Klefki, and Inkay. I didn't know how to evolve sliggoo and inkay until post game since I didnt want to see online spoilers.

I let my friend borrow it afterwards, who had only played RBY before. His team was Delphox, Venusaur, Pidgeot, (M) Lucario, Fossil, and Lapras. So pretty much like you described. Although even he made a few criticisms about the game being too similar to RBY.

>>27451743
This is false, though. Where's the numbers? Heck, even again with the helioptile example, it's one of only three okemon there, ,and the other two are really great. I actually forgot that. so even with it being the lowest encounter rate it still has to be reasonable just logically unless it were made intentionally rare, which is fine if there is a reason for it.

Every route up til maybe the fifth gym has at least 1 and often times 2 or 3 new pokemon there, and unless you're actively avoiding which is possible but not an issue of the game but you actively avoiding seeing new Pokemon you're going to see the new ones, and even places where the new ones are on the rarer side among a bunch of other Pokemon, like Route 8 with Inkay, there's a bunch of really cool and hard to find Pokemon anyway. You would never get to play with a Bagon in game reasonably before then. That's great and I can't believe the people actually complaining about it. The new pokemon count only becomes sparse into the late game which is not where people typically catch new Pokemon to add to their team anyway, and even then you get some stuff like Avalugg or Noibat, which moreso than previous games are a lot more viable to use because of the experience share.

>>27450598

>Veteran player
>caring about the main game

pick exactly one.

>>27451854
Side note, if X and Y had habitat list/dex nav. It would work a lot better

>>27451952
It would, but every game would benefit from that, and as with all games you have the dex as long as you've seen a trainer use the Pokemon or have encountered it to find its location.

>>27450620
This. Sudowoodo has a great concept but the final design looks like trash. Trevenant is 10/10 in both aspects, though.

>>27451634
>Hoenn has Swellow, which differentiates itself from Pidgeot by fucking being blue

Are you retarded or do you just not know what a swallow is?

>>27450526
That's because it's the best game for newcomers

>>27452101
You sure about that?

I recently bought pokemon X, just because i didnt wanna reset pokemon Y and i wanted to pass the time till sun and moon.

The problem with such a massive dex, is its hard to balance gym leaders and I often find myself getting a full team of mons I really enjoy before I can even try playing with the final dex pokemon. The times I do try to only use one or two pokemon near the beginning until I can choose from the later dex, my two or three mons are so over leveled they just destroy any potential threat I may of had.

Its not a bad idea, it certainly made ORAS kind of difficult to play through since I suddenly went to a choice of like 400 pokemon to 100, but its kinda a mixed opinon.

And they really shouldnt of put snorlax so early in the game. I've never tried one so I decided to catch this one. Its awesome, but once again, it makes the game a cake walk since not many mons can really stand up to it.

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>>27451304
>trainer name starts with M
>my nickname becomes M-Meister

>>27452141
Its for new comers and people who dropped the series. Hell im only here because of it. Think the games are shit now though

>>27452257
Oh, I see. Maybe I shouldn't have warned newcomers to stay away from them then.

>>27452252
>m-master, pls...

>>27452267
It's not a good game. It's just very enticing, like Pokemon Go

>>27452334
On second thought, it's a good game for teaching mechanics and new things. Just I hate it when people argue it's a "good" game

Everyone strokes your ego

>>27450701
3/6 of those
damn

>>27451589
Identity seems synonymous with immersion in this case.
Xy had fuck all immersion, because every patch of grass had a heap of genwun pokemon and a few cameo appearances from the latest ones.

XY did it right imo.
No new pokemon in the game was a good thing.
¿Why i should play a game for new pokemon?
It's pointless,old pokemon are the only ones that matter.

>>27452679
Secondly the game has fuck all content, the content it does have is easily over leveled if you're not careful.
I had to box my 3 pokemon and start over after the fourth gym because literally nothing could challenge me.

>>27452773
XY was the best game in the series? what are you talking about?
GF fixed the thing that i hated about this series: NEW POKEMON.

>>27450587
it would be throwing money down the drain if you didn't

My main issue was that it felt like there wasn't much post-E4 content compared to some of the other games.

Which is partly why I really wanted a Z to flesh out this world more and add more post-game. And then that didn't happen.

You think we're done with "third versions" or is no Z just a fluke?

>>27450701
My team was the first three plus Gengar, Sylveon, and Gogoat.

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One of the things that was exciting about new generations was getting new information about your favorite 'mons from the new Pokedex.

It kind of pisses me off that they're all recycled from generation to generation now.

>>27452979
Is this the same for every pokemon or just a few?

>>27451589
Johto has always had a rural old timer feeling and Unova was very urban.

Hoenn was tropical and Sinnoh was Mountainous, but what is Kalos, by being everything, it's really nothing

Story and region are the worst yet, the character customisation is disappointing, game is incredibly easy, hardly anything to do after beating it.
Also too big pokedex isn't that good thing, either.
Half of us (okay, maybe not half, but a pretty big part) ended up with Kalos starter, Kanto starter, fossil, Lucario and two other ones (from which one could be very possibly Lapras).

>>27450548
>and Shauna makes for good porn.
There's a couple of fart pics of her that are pure gold.

>>27452865
They'll go back to third versions once not having them becomes the expected thing.

>>27450526
>implying that's a good thing

>>27452996
I'm pretty sure the only Pokémon that are getting new data are the new ones. The others all have their dex origins a couple of generations back - assuming that their current pokedex entries aren't just copy-paste jobs.

>>27453074
it was.
having new pokemon is a bad thing.

>>27453034
How did the Pokemon available in the Pokedex help that?

>>27453073
Maybe they're saving the third versions for when the generation gets remade.

>>27452996
It's been a thing for a good while. BW/BW2 used DPPt's dex entries for quite a few mons, and remakes usually reuse the original dex entries when they can. With the notable exceptions of ORAS and Kyogre/Groudon/Rayquaza.

>>27453133
So I only need to wait until gen 12 for Z. Sweet.

>>27450630

Lol wut? It's the exact opposite. Play the game before saying shit.

>>27453468
>Starter
>Kanto starter
>Lucario
>Fossil
I also assume many people had Lapras and/or Talonflame.
My team was Delphox, Venu, Tyrantrum, Lucario, Ducklett and Raichu.

>>27451345
Well if Gamefreak had bothered to make more than 70 Gen 6 Pokemon maybe there'd be less need for the previous Gens to come in and overshadow them.

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If I wanted pokemon improperly distributed I'd play a romhack, randomizer or a combination of the two.

Anyone else remember they'd make little locations for every of their legendaries? Shit like that is why I played pokemon, not to be handed a Zorua on route 1.

>>27450526

Black 2:
>metric fuckton of pokemon to catch
>can find party-worthy water, psychic, grass, electric, fighting, fire pokemon before 2nd gym on top of the usual early-route fodder, often with 2 or even 3 good choices for each type
>unprecedented freedom in making your party

X
>given a Gen 1 on top of your Gen 6 starter, plus a gift torchic
>get a free lucario a little later
>4/6 of your party has been decided for you
>game is so insultingly easy that the pidgey you caught before you had a full party and never used in a battle before has outleveled the gym leader's pokemon through exp share and can probably solo the gym
>you don't even need to bother filling those last 2 party slots

Why would anyone be okay with this?

>>27455501
You know you an just not use the gift Pokemon, right? Nothing says you have to? Did you use literally every gift Pokemon given to you in other games?

>>27453765
Different guy here, but I didn't realize that was the norm. I dropped my Kanto Starter and Never even used my Lucario Because I wanted to only use Gen6 Pokemon my first run.

My Team was Chesnaught, Malamar, Florges, Talonflame, Dragalge, and Aegislash. It was a fun run and i got really attatched to all of them

>>27455609
Plot points of the game revolve around these gift Pokemon

>>27451441
Allcaps confirms autism.

>>27455815
They don't involve you keeping them around forever. Never once in X/Y were you handed a pokemon and told you had to use it forever.

>>27451582
>there are no Gen 5 megas

Because Megas were way to re-market older Pokemon again. Gen 5 were being actively marketed in the game itself so they weren't necessary.

It was a way to get new Mewtwo and Charizard merchandise on the shelf.

Kind of like how Sonic Boom's redesigns were because they wanted a way to refresh merchandise.

There was no need for Gen V megas in that sense.

>>27456251

And people list event Pokemon like Torchic and Metagross as gift pokemon.

They're event Pokemon. You could easily box both. They're no more gifts than than any other event Pokemon.

And the story might revolve around megas but the game never forces you to use them past the tutorial, they give you a few but they don't say "Keep this Lucario in your party forever!"

>>27455720

My main team was Greninja, Venusaur, Talonflame, Aegislash, Snorlax, and Tyrantrum.

EXP share made it easy to swap around and mix my party up every here and there too without wasting time training them and that was great. They might have been my main party but I swapped around a lot of different Pokemon. It felt like fun for once to use the stuff I just catch to fill out my dex.

And I often turned the EXP share off if I felt like I was getting too OP.

The game is a cakewalk but it's not total shit.

>>27452979
>>27452996
>>27453228
>>27453077

Good news! Ledyba's Dex entry in SM talks about new information! Looks like unique entries for old Pokemon are back!

>>27450981
>it's an event, so it's less likely that people will get one in the long run.

>>27451159
>Dragons
>Strongest weapon
>In XY
There's Bagon, but its Mega was in ORAS.

>>27453765
A standard Kalos team that I usually see is Greninja, Talonflame, Aegislash some random Fairy and 2 more fillers.

>>27451293
Gen 5 music was melodic. Gen 6 music was ambient.

>>27450697
kek

My first team actually had 4 starters
Chesnaught
Greninja
Charizard
Blaziken
Gengar
Tyrantrum

Looking back it's quite a bad team, but it got the job done I guess

>>27451472
Apart from Driftveil, all of those are shit
Also
>not posting N's theme, Ghetsis's theme, etc
Shit taste

>>27456871
DEEEEEEEEEEENNIS is overrated

>>27456881
NO
This one was pretty based too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-tggRh__SE
Although hometown themes are almost always great

>>27451293
>a meme
Opinion discarded.

>>27456723
This is actually a good description

>>27450526
You'll see why. A diverse dex can't save that rushed, empty mess of a "game."

>>27456871
Give me some Kalos themes you think are better then. Also

>hating Marine Tube

There's a special place in hell for you.