Is hold back the most obscure move? A pure copy of false swipe

>Rototiller

The most obscure move is probably Submission

>Kinesis

>>27373066
>Quash

>>27374274
>Not training machoke
>>27374284
>Not training Kadabra
Fucking Kalosperms.

>>27374290
Actually sees use in double battles, unlike:

Aromatic Mist
Conversion (2)
Eerie Impulse
Ion Deluge

>>27374290
Quash is actually used in the official meta.

>>27374335
Ion deluge
Literally what? Dude your making up moves

>>27374321
Kalos has machoke dummy

What about Hold Hands?

>>27374348
>>27374335
Most of the moves most people don't know come from gen 6, and no one really paid attention to any new moves that came out at the time

I had a Roserade with Venom Drench for online battles. It was fun.

>>27374321
Kadabra is based, but why would I want a worse version of flash?

smogon doesn't use it so it's shit XD: the thread

Belch is obscure as fuck too.

>>27374392
>moves that have limited distribution and almost no use in competitive or in-game
>calling them obscure makes us smogonfags

>>27374349
That's not the point you dunce.

Poison gas
Smellingsalt
Dragon ascent
Fling
Twister
Snarl
Copycat
Assist
Snore
Round
Brine
Aqua ring
Struggle bug
Tickle
Swallow
Foresight
Focus energy

>>27374335
I use Ion Deluge in triple battles. Ion Deluge-Explosion with two Lightning Rod users is fucking awesome.

>>27374392
Literally name any metagame or even person who has ever used ion deluge

>>27374392
Please list which of the moves noted in this thread you have used consistently in your playthroughs

>>27374448
None of those are obscure.

>>27373066
Tickle? Assist? Steamroller?

>>27374448
>Fling
>Twister
>Assist
>Snore
>Round
>Aqua Ring
>Foresight
>Focus Energy

None of those are obscure compared to actual obscure moves

>>27374454
I'm actually the guy who posted it, but I can name exactly one. Pikachu cup online competition. Electric types only. Ion Deluge + Volt Absorb saw minor use as a way to stop specs Heliolisk hyper voice spam. Emphasis on minor, and in one competition that a handful of people played.

>>27374462
Smelling Salt and Tickle definitely are.

>>27374448
Dude Snarl Yveltal is GOAT in VGC.

>>27374411
yes

The fact that Triple Kick has yet to be mentioned proves it is the most obscure move.

Covet
Confide
Magnetic
Feint
Comet punch
Recycle
Magnet rise

>>27374495
>Never trained a makuhita.
Are you underaged?

And tickle is learnt by lv up by common mons like aipom...

I was farming BP last night and some random used Belch
the hell is that

>>27374580
>Covet
Pseudo thief, not obscure
>Confide
Lowers sp. Atk a lot of npc use it
>Magnetic Flux
Actually kind of obscure
>Feint
Widely used in VGC to punish protect stall
>Comet punch
Ledian's signature attack.
>Recycle
Funbro used it, and mystery dungeon games use it to recycle tms
>Magnet rise
Widely used both in smogon and vgc to avoid the ever present earthquake

>>27374574
It's actually pretty much the best fighting move hitmontop got in gen 2.

>>27374580
i know every single one of these, are you 13 years old?

>>27374735
Hitmontop was trash in gen 2 so yeah.

>>27373066
This is real?

>Toxic

>>27374495
There is a difference between unmemorable and obscure

>>27374495
Smelling Salt is a pretty common move in the gen 3 games.

Crabhammer. Not even Mew knows about that one.

>>27374871
Is it? The Makuhita line gets it and... nothing else, I think.

>>27374922
Makuhita line was a fairly common Pokemon in the Gen 3 games. Especially when you get to Victory Road where there's Hariyama everywhere.

>>27374922
Makuhita is common as fuck in Hoenn, and wild hariyamas in the victory road have the move.

Doom Desire is a bit obscure, but I'd imagine most people have heard of it. Forest's Curse, Flower Shield, and despite a ton of Pokemon being able to learn it Magic Room are all pretty obscure though.

>>27375067
Oh yeah, I always forget about Magic and Wonder Room. Not as popular as their brother Trick Room lol.

>Ctrl + F Telekinesis
>Ctrl + F Synchronoise
>0 results
Confirmed most obscure moves.
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/moves/telekinesis/
http://www.smogon.com/dex/xy/moves/synchronoise/

>>27375152
>Common moves aren't listed
>hurr durr that means they are obscure
Are you retarded?

>>27375152
>Ctrl + F no flamethrower
>Ctrl + F no ice beam
>hurr durr I'm a retard

>>27375198
He's right though, at least about Synchronoise.

>>27375152
>If no one has mentioned them it means no one knows about them

Telekinesis isn't obscure at all. I'll give you Synchronoise, but no way is it the most obscure.

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>Ally Switch

>>27375229
Synchronoise was common in gen V, pretty gimmicky though.

then which is the most obscure?

>>27374449
>killing your mon just to get +1 on your other two
Just use Discharge or Parabolic Charge.

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>Fairy Lock
>Venom Drench

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>>27374624
>tfw didn't go for the Quick Attack mega Pinsir shit
>tfw Feint is 100 times better

Happy Hour is the most obscure, it was an event Inkay exclusive or some shit

>>27374624
>Recycle
>Funbro
In marginally less trolltastic terms, Mastermite uses it too.

In fact a lot of FEAR-stall mons use it for Berry Juice + Sturdy

>>27374448
> FUCKING DRAGON ASCENT
> THE MOVE THAT CAUSES MEGA FUG
> OBSCURE

Switcheroo

>Powder
No not Powder Snow, Powder.
I'll play devil's advocate for a bit and admit that if you bothered to train Vivllion all the way you might know it (then again you might have passed on it anyway), but it's still pretty obscure; and a rather peculiar move in it's own right as well, not bad, but rather circumstantial.

>>27374454
I haven't even heard of that.

>>27375960
A lot of Pokemon have gotten it. The movie Greninja being a recent example. Not very obscure.

>>27376153
Shit, I dunno Miracle Eye and Gravity are damn forgettable with Miracle Eye having OK distribution. Same with those starter only pledge moves

Ally Switch

Flower Shield

Punishment

>>27376240
Woah. I just remembered Punishment is a move. I know Pokemon learn it late, and I think it's dark, but I completely forgot about it.

>>27373066
I didn't even realize it's an event move. Almost made my Serperior forget it.

>>27376240
Lugia and Ho Oh get Punishment, only reason I remember it

>>27375317
synchronoise umbreon

>>27375237
I don't think I've ever seen this move actually used, just know it's TM 51 in Gen V

>>27373066
Nightmare

>>27376419
Dream Eater

Mirror Shot

Muddy Water

>>27376450
Literally non of these are obscure

>>27374898
That's because crab Pokemon can are the only ones that can learn it.

>>27376465
Fine then.

Cross Poison

Dizzy Punch

>>27376419
I admit I forgot completely about this one.

What about Rage?

>>27376086

It's a set-up move that causes a big blast with fire types right? I actually completely forgot about it until you mentioned it.

>>27376061
Isn't that popular with lopunny though?
Having a klutz lopunny with a poison orb/ flame orb?

If not, that's the only reason I remember that move.

>>27374448
From that list, only Smellingsalt is obscure.

>>27376542
>It's a set-up move that causes a big blast with fire types right
er, what do you mean by that?

>>27376736
This move is an increased priority move. If a Pokémon affected by Powder attempts to use a Fire-type move during that turn, they take damage equal to 25% of their maximum HP and cannot execute the move (PP is still consumed).
Powder will damage the Pokémon even during heavy rain. If a Pokémon with Magic Guard affected by Powder attempts to use a Fire-type move, it will fail to execute the move but take no damage.
Powder does not prevent a Pokémon from thawing itself by using a move like Flame Wheel. If a Pokémon affected by Powder attempts to use Natural Gift while holding a Berry that makes the move Fire-type, the Pokémon takes damage from Powder but the Berry is not consumed.
Grass-type Pokémon, Pokémon with Overcoat, and Pokémon holding the Safety Goggles are immune to Powder.

A fair number of mons get Flame Burst but I bet few people remember what its special effect is (because it's stupid).

>>27376636
Yeah before it got a Mega Switcheroo sets were really the only way to run Lopunny. I know Sevipers always run it too, and I want to say the Fennekin line gets it as well. I find it memorable just because it manages to make Pokemon somewhat viable who wouldn't be otherwise.

>>27376778
It does a little bit of damage to any Pokemon next to the one you attacked. I'd imagine most people who played the Gen 5 games probably know what it does since there were additions like triple battles and wild double battles.

>>27374624
>comet punch
>LEDIAN's signature attack
Who is hitmonchan?

>>27377003
You mean Kangaskhan.

>>27374408
To be fair, it was one of the moves leaked in the big Pokémon X and Y leak.

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Most forgotten move? Easy.

Amnesia

>Thunderbolt
>Flamethrower
>Fly

What about obscure abilities? I just learned that Flare Boost exists last week.

The pledge moves.

>>27373066
>I'm aware moves like celebration exist, but they are at least somewhat memorable.
>celebration
>memorable
Celebration is a glorified Splash, and if it doesn't do shit it goes in the trash. I don't know why you'd remember that.

>Bestow

>>27374261
I tried to make that one work in triples along with forest's curse.

>>27377539
Stall
just why

Constrict
Torment
Aromatic Mist
Ion Deluge
Magnetic Flux
Eerie Impulse

>>27375409
Shadowball

Tackle
Growl
Leer

>>27377542
>>27376235
I have a triples team based on Greninja + Mega Venu pledge. I'm called a hacker every other match. Been visited by a moderator 3 or 4 times.

Nobody fucking knows what they do.

Heal block

>>27378111
>Tackle
Holy shit, I forgot about that one. What does it even do again?

>>27378225
No one knows what it does. It just...does.

>>27377574
Everybody remembers that as a gimmick to False Swipe ghosts.

>>27377863
What?

>>27376061
Noivern's hype made it memorable to me.

>>27374490
Round shows up all the time in randbats

>>27378309
Triples/doubles too. It's a gimmick with a VERY FAST pokémon casting the weak move first and a second (and occasionally a third) a slower but power-invested mon immediatly following the cast with double the power, boosted by glaciate or pixelate. Often choiced.

Only soundproof can know peace from this evil.

>>27378412
These combo moves all work in tandem, it's pretty fun.

>Greninja or something with scarf casts first
>the other mon with 0 speed follows it ignoring turn order
>160 BP choiced as fast as priority with Atk/SpAtk nature
H E L L

>>27378205
I remember a VGC team back in 15 using that combo as well, it's a usable strategy. Also Mega Char Y Fire Pledge + Chlorophyll Venusaur's Grass Pledge.

>>27378412
I like doing this. Jolteon's my favorite Rounder because it's fast enough, has some nice support moves like Fake Tears if needed, Thunderbolt can do decent damage.

Mind reader, camouflage, Acid Armor, soak, egg bomb, conversion, psych up, assist, copycat, chatter, quick guard, steamroller, parting shot

>>27374981
>>27374979
It shouldn't be a surprise that amolamola when i was a kid is too underage to know about gen 3

>>27378480
Really? Grass+Fire is the least appealing one in my opinion.

Water+Grass has the shittiest resulting move type (Grass), but it's literally a double reverse tailwind. Nothing outspeeds your slowest mon.

And Fire+Water has OP comboes: Permaflinch scarfed Rock Slide, ever-paralyzing Discharge...

>>27378517
>Quick Guard
Lol

>>27377517
Do you have brain problems?

>>27378531
The main appeal was having a base 160 fire attack from a Mega Charizard in sun that doesn't have to worry about speed thanks to sanic Venusaur, and the effect was great for killing sashes.

>>27376495
>he doesn't run Dizzy Punch Mega Kangaskhan

>>27374580
Magnetic and Recycle are the only two on this list I've never seen used before.
The fuck do they do.

>>27376495
>Cross Poison
>This fucker has never raised a Crobat or Drapion is his life
For fucking shame, bro.

So sad that no one remembers barrage

probably because no one uses Barrage sionce it's an exclusive move that can only be taught via move tutor or breeding. It's also a completely shitty move.

>>27374290
http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/vgc2015-197075406

>>27374335
I ran into sejun park using aromatic mist actually. He used aromatisse and mega slowbro so mega slowbro could just set up calm minds without being taunted. I think it was calm mind/slack off/scald/ and something else? I think another defense boosting move, iron defense? I can't remember, there was only scald since I won by cheesing it with gastrodon.

>>27374624
>magnet rise
>widely used in vgc
>earthquake
>vgc
lol
basically this thread is people who don't play VGC, since a decent amount of these moves are used and smogonbabbies don't pay attention to doubles.

>>27376636
It's more hilarious with an assvest against a stallmon.

>>27379116
I only remember that move because of Touhoumon and even then I didn't realize that was an actual move until I saw it in a Mystery Dungeon game

>>27373066
>Is hold back the most obscure move? A pure copy of false swipe given only to some event pokemon.
Am I really the only one who raised that Bank Event Celebi?

>>27379372
>Earthquake
>not used in VGC
lol

Night Daze
Sharpen
Fairy Lock
Celebrate
Electrify
Bestow
Magic Room/Wonder Room
Reflect Type

earthqauke

Beat Up

>>27380788
>not knowing beat up+justified
Shit was a legitimate threat.

>>27374351
Lewd

Electrify - Its a signature of Heliolisk
It's a great doubles move aspecialy when your other mon is Volt absorber.

Galvanize

>>27381387
>Phoenixsong

Hold Hands?

>>27378517
None of these are obscure.

Nobody uses acid armor but everybody remembers it.

>>27379957
Never used night daze. What does it do?

>>27381387
PUSH THE BUTTON

Depth Charge

no-one's mentioned that

>>27373066
>Powder
>Flower Shield
>Rototiler
These are the most obscure moves, look no further

>>27375317
How was it common? I don't think any trainers in the game used it except for maybe one Sigilyph.

Honestly I would like to know what the person who came up with that move was.

>You guys, let's make a PSYCHIC-type move that only works on pokemon with the same type as the user!
>Okay, how strong should we make it? 120BP? 150BP, maybe?
>No, it doesn't need to be strong, why does it need to be strong?
>W-well, because Psychic is a move that's a lot stronger but doesn't have the drawback of being effective against only one or two types
>FUCK YOU 70BP IT IS

At least it's 120BP now. And it's still not enough, since most Pokémon that use it either don't get STAB or do half damage since Psychic resists Psychic.

>>27381503
If it was Ghost it would have been good