>top 3 is what legendaries used to look like >bottom 3

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>>27367216
Box legendary are meant to be cooler than mythicals. The legends look better now
>not liking victini

>>27367216
Yeah, hot bird, cold bird and zappy bird are really ebin legendaries. So original and creative!

>>27367216
>Mew Celebi
Compared to
>Zekrom Reshiram

>>27367216
>implying Reshiram and Zekrom aren't as good or better than the burds
>the current year

>>27367216
>4-6 years old
>now
okay then

>>>/vp/rules/4
Enjoy your ban.

>>27367216
Yes, OP, we are smoking the ultimate pokemon red pill. Set aside your genwunner delusions and smoke with us.

>>27367216

The top three are Legendary Pokémon
The bottle three are Mythical Pokémon

You fucked up, OP.

>>27367216
Needs bigger eyes!

>>27367245
>spandex dragon man
>boner chicken with hideous wings

>>27367249
Damage control to the maximum.

OP, are you retarded or just trolling?
Are you comparing a legendary trio to Mew-like mythicals?

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>>27367216

>Cherry picking from Gen 5
>Mythicals of all things

Bait or not, fuck off back to whatever nostalgic shithole you crawled out of, you stupid fucking faggot. The cute theme for mythical pokemon has never changed since gen 1.

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>>27367216
We could actually have a decent discussion comparing the birds tot he genies instead of comparing apples to potatoes.

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>>27367216

I don't have a problem with Meloetta and Victini but that damn horse on the other hand...

I have to agree that there's much more designs that I dislike in the newer generations.

>>27367275
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>>27367240
yes they are fuck off

>>27367216

Unfair comparison. Articuno is, in my opinion, the best-looking Pokémon, still, after all these years. Thing is fucking beautiful

>>27367300
Pfft what a fag.I hope you fly off into the sunset riding an Articuno and live a life of happiness and peace with your glorious and majestic bird. You deserve it dork.

>>27367249
isn't it a gobal rule to be banned for doing that?

>>27367216
>Comparing Legendaries to Mythical Pokemon.
Someone get OP a red pill.

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Best legendaries were Regis.

No room for debate.

>actually look unique and otherworldly compared to all over pokemon
>lore so deep you need an HM to get through it all
>method to getting them is a quest so bizarre it reads like THAT FUCKING KID lies

>>27367416

Agreed. Easily the best trio, looks like they'll remain that way because the totem pole is shit.

>>27367416
>lore so deep you need an HM to get through it all
kek

>>27367372
I'm not announcing a report or even filing one, I am merely saying OP will get banned if he keeps genwar flaming.

>>27367216
>every new region has a new aesthetic to reflect the current trends in real life and the grandness of the Pokemon world in giving different parts of the world different looking wildlife.
>this is somehow bad despite it being part of the idea behind the series itself
you're a little mentally stunted, OP, why do you not understand the surface level concepts of a game designed for children?

>>27367416
I agree with this, I remember trying to get the regis in Emerald, felt like I was being trolled with all the weird steps.

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What happened to Pokemon? All of them are plain and uninspired with dull colors now.

>>27367732
Dude, you do realize that Lunaala is a Yveltal clone, right?

>>27367780
You're going to have to explain that one because I don't see it.
A bird and a bat are pretty similar creatures.

Honestly Moltres always looked like garbage and Arcticuno isn't much better.

The Regis are probably the only really cool trio.

But yes, legends have gotten dumber looking because they're expected to be movie marketable.

>>27367780
>the bird from the Norse World Tree and a pacific island deity designed to resemble an emblem of protection worn by children in ancient Rome are the same
good one

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>>27367788
>>27367804
There, proved you wrong, it's the same form.

>>27367788
Solgaleo = Alchemical symbol, the green lion that eats the sun = Metals purity (Steel Type) & plants growing nourished by sunlight (Life)
Lunala = Alchemical symbol, the skeleton = Corrosion, demise, putrescence (Ghost Type, Death)

Solgaleo & Xerneas = Life
Yveltal & Lunala = Death
Zygarde = Order

>>27367812
this is either the most worthless bait or you're some weird autismo who doesn't know what a design is.
I'm assuming you're like 90% of 4chan posters and it's the latter but, once you get it explained to you, you'll suddenly flip-flop and say you were only pretending to be a retard

>>27367216
I'm pretty fucking sure there are Legendaries that look worse than Keldeo and Victini, or just as fucking bad.

Meloetta's fine

>>27367216

Or you could make an actually fair comparison using Mew and Mewtwo, who are just as buttugly as unova legends.

>>27367216
I remember the first time I saw Victini...

I thought "I can't believe Digimon is still going!".

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>>27367842
>>27367812

>>27367228
>liking victini
fuck off
also reminder that keldeo is the most autistic and retarded pokemon of all 7 gens

Even if you like filth like Klefki, I think most people agree that legendaries are shittier than ever.
How are we supposed to care about yet another big, spiky, flashing dragon thing when there are already 20 of them?

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>>27367732
>pokemon aren't threatening anymore

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>>27368004

>>27368004
Top looks like Digimon. Kek

>>27368021
This

Literally noone is saying that there is no difference between gen one and five. They obviously have a different style and feel to them, but saying that gen 1 is straight up better is just plain ignorant and comes down to the personal preference. I personally think that the series got MUCH better in the 3rd gen because they could get creative with the designs and technology wasn't limiting that anymore. Even though my first game was Pokemon Gold i feel like first two gens had the most forgettable mons in the series. A message to any genwunner: for a moment put nostalgia aside and try to look at each gen as objectively as possible, then you tell me if gamefreak really ran out of ideas

>>27367904
>big spiky flashing dragon thing
The last ones of those were in Gen V, you realize. We're going into Gen VII now.

>>27368004
why is gen 1 so shitty?

>>27367216
>Top uses all official art
>Bottom uses one official art and two fanart
Why do these images always do this?

>>27368004
bottom row is best. only good one in the top row is the fuzzy fire bug

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just fuck my artstyle up senpai

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>>27368004
>hoopa
>yanmega
>eelektross
>good designs
hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>27367791
Regis, Beasts, Birds are still considered classic gens, gen 1-3, 4th gen has brough significant changes and gen 5 is where the collapse has begun and is still ongoing.

>>27367216
Meh I don't hate new legendaries they're getting cluttered. Instead of focusing on them and having them stand out they get drowned out by each other.

In OPs we have those three, three tao mon, three genies, three musketeers.

Heatran would have been more fun as simply a regular rare, strong as fuck mon

>>27368089
>implying artstyle=design direction
>modern Sugi for older pokemon
>except for Pikachu
>anime art for Pikachu
None of this is consistent.

>>27368276
what are those

>>27368213
pick 4

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There is no doubting that the art style has shifted. After all, this is no longer the 90s. Those who say otherwise are delusional.

But this isn't a bad thing. There's so many good designs that work BECAUSE of the style change. Pokémon like Scrafty, Clauncher, Pikipek would look godawful in gen1 style.

If the detailed gen 1 aesthetic is what you prefer, that's fine. But Pokémon had to change or we'd be getting Pokémon that looked very, very similar. Compare Kangaskhan, Nidoqueen, and Rhydon. They all use the same formula.

Again, contrary to what /vp/ believes, there is nothing wrong with preferring gen 1's art direction. You become a genwunner when you start to claim that Pokémon is shit now, that all new designs are bad, etc etc

>>27367416
Beasts>birds>regis=musketeers>lake trio>>>>genies


Lake trio would be higher if they had different types

>>27367216
Sure, have these nostalgia goggles

the three legendary birds + ho-oh are the only legendaries that i've ever liked. all of the other ones look dumb to me.

>>27367812

>Lunala is shaped like a psi (Ψ)
>is part Psi-chic

Holy fuck

>>27368089
>arstyle
not a word, not a term.. These aren't "art" anyway, they're designs and specifically character illustrations.

>popular video game aesthetics and design philosophies change over time
You don't say?! Fantasy games and the like were popular when Pokemon first came out, owing to the manner in which the designs were illustrated. We have new, hip technology and kawaii, luminous, giant head stuff is in right now so that's what you get instead.

Don't make arguments if you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about, mate.

>>27367216
I never thought Zapdos was well designed. When people complain about new Pokemon being nothing but a bunch of shapes I always point to Zapdos.

Also way to cherry pic some of the lamest legendaries. Forget great looking ones like Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga and Palkia.

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>>27367242
Zekrom and Reshiram look like shit.

>>27368375
t. unovabort happy with the death of the pokemon franchise

You are part of the problem.

>>27368451
How so?

>>27367216
>Not liking Victini
Isn't there a bridge somewhere for you to end your life?

>Legendaries
>there's like fifty of them now

>>27368444
>posts a definition that supports my argument
Alright, thanks? You should also keep in mind that the dictionary isn't necessarily curated by anyone who is knowledgeable on what is and isn't art and that dictionary definitions are always forced into being concise and simple so children and Americans can get a grasp on them.

Designs and works of art are separate things. A painting isn't automatically, art - nor is a sculpture, a drawing, a video etc... And that should be obvious. Pokemon character portraits are literally what they are and are not magically "art" as well, they're monsters that are designed and then the lead illustrator pumps out a batch of all of them in a uniformed style to suit the newest region in respect to what is popular in children's visual media at the moment.

Literally as succinct as I can be, there.

>>27368474
Just because you're a dilettante and don't know anything about anything doesn't mean you can magically counter-act facts and definitions, anon.

Moltres is honestly a pretty poor design. Even it's flames look pretty lame.

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>>27367216
>fire bird
>ice bird
>zappy bird
wow so cool and original, unlike these new '''pokemon'''. genwun is truly teh best.

>>27368508
Thanks you for agreeing with the majority.

>>27368488
>supports your argument
A design somehow isn't an application of human creative skill and imagination?

>a painting isn't automatically art
[See above.]

>dictionary definitions are always too simple
>you can't magically counter-act definitions
???

You are literally the most pretentious fuck ever.
Enjoy your worthless doodling degree, faggot.

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>>27368555
I'm not pretentious, you goon, I'm just educated.
If you want to learn about art go read a book. There are tonnes of them and the seminal babby's first ones are John Berger's Ways of Seeing, that Walter Benjamin Essay and Roland Barthes' Mythologies.

I'm not your teacher, but I am a professional artist AND a professional designer and I am fully aware that they are entirely different fields because I'm not a retard outsider who pulls nonsense out of their ass.

I don't come along into discussions and tell scientists that "anime girls is a physics" and you should show the same respect to the professional field of fine art. Thanks for tuning in.

>>27368590
>2 paragraphs takes more than 10 seconds to read

>>27368329
this guy gets it

>>27367216
why are there sO MANY LEGENDARIES

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>27368089

So, here we have an overview

Generation 1: A bird on fire. An icy bird. Thor's bird. A mutated feline. A feline.
Generation 2: Thor's feline. An volcano canine. Project Purity canine. A marine dinosaur. A phoenix. A forest fairy.
Generation 3: Golems representing Ice, Rock and Iron Ages. Two jet dragons. An orca whale. A dinosaur. A really long dragon. A genie. A DNA virus.
Generation 4: Three fairies. A dinosaur, a dragon and a basilisk/snake. An insect made of molten steel. An another golem. A lunar swan. A marine mollusk and his baby. A bogeykin. A hedgehog/reindeer. A fucking llama stuck in a fence.
Generation V: A victory rodent. Four Muskeeters as equines. Chinese gods of wind/storms/fertility or a bird/snake/lion. White/black/græy dragon. A muse. A cyborg insect.
Generation VI: A MAJESTIC DEER. A vulture. A snake that is Loki's child. A magical princess diamond. A majin. A geyser.

>>27368642
>MuH rEaLiSm GuIsE!!!!1
Fuck off, you're playing a game about a 10 year old collecting fictional monsters, why does everything need to be hyper-photo-realistic?

Also,
>complaining about designs that are too cute in a game made for literal children

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what went wrong?

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>>27368642
>comparing Flabébé and Venusaur

>>27367216
Victini is better then any gen 1 pokemon

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>>27368642
Problem with half of these is that I can't say if it's real or a parody. Left side will complain about something and then praise the pokemon on the left that does the same misstep a few rows down. It also praises some really shitty designs from gen 1 while taking potshots on some really shitty pokemon they obviously hand picked because nobody can defend them.

>>27368642
This picture always makes me laugh.

>>27368703
hoothoot is more iconic design wise
i guess this image supports op

>>27367216
>cherrypicking


Also personally i think hot bird, cold bird, and zappy bird are bland af legendaries

>old pokemon are better because they have better propotions
>but old pikachu is better when it was a ball with limbs and not when it got a head and body

i don't get genwunners man

>>27368488
your diction makes me want to suck your dick.

>>27367216
Sweet lord, are people still using those fan art images of the Unova events?

>>27368739
>more iconic
it's really the other way around. Hoothoot has more going on in it's design than Talonflame and it's closer to the current design standards while firebird is more like Gen1's typical design philosophy... so...

>>27368488
>>27368773
Nice try, samefag. Also, that thesaurus abuse isn't going to help you drop that permavirgin status any time soon; girls only like guys they can't understand when they're from foreign countries.

>it's a cherrypicking Keldeo episode

>>27367416
And that trend of weird shit you have to do to unlock Regigigas in OR/AS continues today.

>>27368741
>bland
>3 iconic pokemon
>not the most hated lengendary, literally who, and a pokemon known only for r34

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>>27368813
Good try. I just speak English, just because you can't doesn't mean I'm trying or anything... This is just how I speak. Anyhow, it's great that your best attempt at a counter-argument is trying to call me a virgin and making weird statements because you've never had a girlfriend.
That sort of reaction - the "better save face by making fun of the guy who explained something to me" - is the most pseudo-macho thing and only serves as you admitting I'm right and makes you look incredibly pathetic.

Please, get out more and try reading more often too.

>>27368329
I like to think of how the older generations' characters looked like cats, and nowadays they look like bunnies... or something.

Victini looks great. It's a rabbit carved out of an apple for those gaijins out there.

>>27368813
nah dude. We're different people. And you're an idiot. The discussion on what is and isn't art has been going on for centuries and is incredibly complicated; to think you can post a dictionary definition of the word art to prove your point is asinine.

This debate has noting to do with art. At all. It's all character design. This fun (shitty) thing about design is that dumb fucks who don't know design LOVE to have opinions about design.

The fact is, if you expect pokemon to be designed in 2016 the way they were in the 90's you are an idiot. And if you have no experience in the design field, to think you have any authority to say what is and isn't a good design makes you a dumb fuck.

Newer gens have DRAMATICALLY better thought out concepts and ideas behind designs. And Pokemon still makes more money than you will ever see in your lifetime so clearly they are doing something right.

>>27368488
You sound like such a pretentious cunt.

>>27368851
>3 bland pokemon
ftfy

>>27368851
>iconic
kek, they're only "iconic" because normies literally dont know any legendaries past maybe gen 2

>not the most hated lengendary, literally who, and a pokemon known only for r34
again, cherrypicking. Nice job picking easy fodder. Let's compare the birds to Yvetal, Xerneas, and Zygarde. Who wins then?

>>27368871
You read like a shitposter who thinks words with more than two syllables are bad because you're too lazy to learn how to speak English properly.

>>27368867
Your post was better than mine, anon, glad to see another person posting who actually knows what they're on about.

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>>27368642
>STILL shitting on pokemon designs
Fine, get a bigger load of it

>>27368852
That's fair, I'll admit it. It was poor of me to stoop to using ad hominem. Anonymity makes it a little too easy to get carried away sometimes. You honestly do sound like a pretty smart guy, and I'm sorry for disrespecting your field.

>>27368867
I honestly had no idea that design and art were different fields before now, and I'm sorry for trying to step in on an argument that I had no right being a part of, but at least I learned something new today. You should know, though, that I never once argued that old Pokemon designs are better than new ones, nor that they even *should* be the same. That was someone else. I really love the new Pokemon designs.

>>27367228
Those look like fucking ZOIDs. They're shit, stop defending them.

>>27368908
I hate these posts. To be honest, Yokai Watch designs aren't bad.

They're made with a completely different method and idea in mind to accomplish a completely different thing. On top of that they are illustrated in a completely different style. You may not prefer them but that doesn't mean they are bad.

Some of their designs are whimsical and unique and really quite fresh. If you think I'm wrong I'd invite you to take a trip to Tokyo and see who how much Jibanyan merch is on every street. Sounds like effective design to me.

>>27368916
This is the most humble thing I've ever seen on vp. I will now suck your dick as well.

Thank you.

>>27368908
There's nothing wrong with those.
Pokemon are designed to reflect cultures, organism and ideas a child faces growing up/exploring a region.
Yokai Watch is about Yokai specifically and no further influences are involved besides the current popular trends in Japanese children's media.

>>27368916
Ah, cool, thanks. The part of getting the designs is the most important part, the semantics with the whole "art" deal is just a rampant issue around here. The new Pokemon are so good, too - Bewear is amazing.

I still recommend a bit of reading, it's good to know some basic philosophy and Barthes is super easy and two of his books are just about how he thinks Japan is essentially heaven. Plus, people think you're smart if you remember that one essay where Barthes talked about creative people never being able to have a day off.

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Have birds declined?

>>27368473
>>27368616
So?

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>>27367216
>Victini
>bad

>>27369029
No, they peaked at 5 and 6.

>>27369029
cutiefly?

>>27369029
the new ones are basic, so they can be compared with the little balls from gen 2 that are natu and hoothoot rather than their evos

>>27367275
The genies look similar to Electabuzz.

>>27368879
Thank you for agreeing and defining what iconic is. It's defined by what most people know.

That you have to pull the box legends of the most recent game and the legendary who had a whole anime season dedicated to it shows how iconic and relevent a trio of legendaries that doesn't even have their own movie is. Yvetal is cool, Xerneas' only redeming quality is being a competitive powerhouse and Zygarde for being only behind greninja in forced marketing is pretty forgettable.

Let me know in 15 or 20 years if they are still relevant.

>gen 1
>simple but effective designs. Every pokemon is easily identifiable
>modern gens
>over-designed shit where most of the time you can't even tell what animal it's meant to be based off

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>>27368682
>a fucking llama stuck in a fence

Shitty bait OP, but I guess it worked

>>27369262
>>over-designed shit where most of the time you can't even tell what animal it's meant to be based off

There are so many issues with your argument.

Also "over-designed" isn't a thing. It's either effective design or ineffective design.

>>27369288
The phrase "over-designed" when used around here means that a design is too busy or has too many extraneous elements. I'm not sure what "real" designers use to describe those attributes, but this is what we use. It is merely a colloquialism, and since you obviously understand what the person you're replying to is trying to say, it seems a little pretentious and pedantic of you to try to correct him.

Welcome to /vp/.

>>27369329
>The phrase "over-designed" when used around here means that a design is too busy or has too many extraneous elements
Not who you were replying to, but I feel the need to cut in.
It's a shitposting term that means nothing that people throw around on 4chan as bait to incite flame wars. That's why it exists to begin with. If, for any reason, you've come across this word here and somehow came to the conclusion that it has ever been used seriously to mean something then you're going to have to update your bait detector.

Erm, but yeah. "Over designed" doesn't make sense. In terms of Pokemon, their designs are meant to convey ideas - specifically to represent the different elements that their designs are drawn from so they can represent all of those things within the scope of the Pokemon universe. There are never any superfluous details on a Pokemon.

Some of the Gen1 Pokemon are designed based on absolutely nothing, like Bulbasaur, and the scope of the series was much smaller at the time (as was the staff at Game Freak) so the designs had a lot less going on than they do now, but in almost every instance the newer Pokemon are better from a design standpoint than the older ones.

>>27369029
Birbs have been very consistent throughout the years. Pipipek is my favorite route 1 bird design with starly close behind it.

>>27368939
>>27368967
Unless you live in Japan, the series doesn't even compete with Pokemon and most of us haven't even heard of it, let alone contrast it with pokemon.
Any time someone references it like this they always sound like butthurt fanboys and use Yokai-Watch's designs to try and shut up anyone who implies GF maybe got lazy, or has a crappy designer.

Say what you will with Gen 5, but you can't deny that adding 156 new pokemon, at least a couple look like shit.

>>27367216
>legendary trio from gen 1
>three random legendaries from gen 5
>not posting the musketeers or the dragons
Clearly there's no bias here...

>>27367407
Back in my day there were no Mythical Pokemon, they were all legendaries

>>27369415
I don't know why you replied to my post with this, but I'll bite anyway.

>you can't deny that adding 156 new pokemon, at least a couple look like shit
I can deny that. There is a chance some design won't appeal to you right away or maybe even ever and that's how opinions work, but whether or not something is good works with definitive language and, as such, is objective.
It's okay if you don't like things, but it doesn't make them "bad."

>>27369446
Mew was a Mythical you stupid fuck.

I like your middle paragraph about Pokemon's designs being naturally unable to have any superfluous elements. That's an interesting point of view. I had never thought of it like that before.

I agree that most of the newer generation Pokemon are well-designed, and even have a lot of personal favorites in generation VI alone. However, wouldn't you agree that some Pokemon's designs are just too busy and visually chaotic, and the ideas they are meant to convey could have been brought about in a much more straightforward and simpler manner?

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>>27369446

>>27369528
Sorry, this was meant to be a reply to
>>27369371

>>27369528
This. Remove the spots from Bulbasaur and the cream belly on Charmander, then we talk.

>>27369528
>Pokemon's designs are just too busy and visually chaotic
which ones are you talking about?

>>27369590
Take Mega Garchomp, for example. Does it really need to have so many spikes all up and down its body?

>>27368466
They're incredibly overdesigned. They look like Zoids and Digimon had a threeway with Autism.

>>27369569
>>27369528
Ah, you caught me just as I was heading out, so if you reply to this it'll be a good hour or so before I can respond again.

>wouldn't you agree that some Pokemon's designs are just too busy and visually chaotic, and the ideas they are meant to convey could have been brought about in a much more straightforward and simpler manner?
In some instances, maybe. I'd have to have a complete knowledge of every design element of every Pokemon to give you a perfect answer, but I'd be lying if I said that there's not a single Pokemon that I'd have ordered a revision on.

Ahead of everything else, the entire philosophies behind this stuff is different in Japan and I'm not enough of a weeb or an expert to really be able to properly make a statement about it.

Sometimes there are things like Mega Aerodactyls rock beard or whatever that are just there for the "appeals to boys" trope of Japanese illustration. You'll probably notice that their non-Japanese designers and female designers never do that. Maybe the lead designer doesn't like taking the designers' "hand", so to speak, out of the finished product, I dunno.

You've asked a big hard question, which is great, but the answer has to either be equally huge and uncertain or just
>in some cases, it probably could

So I gave you both.

Anyone who shitposts you needs to calm down, though, that was a really good post.

>>27369693
How so?

>>27369693
That's your subjective opinion and you can't make that a fact!11!!1

>>27369761
>How so?

How so?

>>27367282

Which the trio birds are exactly

>>27367732
Well this just makes it look like the artists grew up, anon.

They all look like Pokemon

>>27367898
how is it better than electrode?

>>27368642
Can't really argue with this.

>>27369693
This sounds much more applicable to the S&M legendaries than the B/W legendaries.

>>27369996
is this b8?

You do know Zapdos and Moltres have always looked like shit, right? Like... really fucking bad.

>>27368717
>moeshit with animu eyes bigger than its arms
get out

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>>27369668
Does Nidoking need those spikes? Does Magmar need those spikes? Does anything need spikes? Does anything even need eyes?

Holy fuck. Mega Garchomp is basically Pokemon Gigan. Why does a battle form of a ferocious dragon with rough skin have spikes?

>>27370292
You mean Mew?

>>27367216
Need more majestic creatures that will straight up attack you, not that are pretty and a bit anthropomorphic and want to be your friend.

>>27370298
Does Magmar need tits on its face?

>>27370311
Nah, I meant Jigglypuff and Wigglytuff

>>27370361
Without it wouldn't be Boober

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>>27370368
Just every pink blob, clearly. You can never escape the pink blobs. Lickilicki is based though.

Arceus is best legendary, and no one can change my mind about that.

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>>27368366

Dubs confirm great taste. I'd place the regis above the muskateers, though. RSE really set a fitting tone for them.

>>27368366
Regis > Beasts > Therian Genies > Birds > Lake Trio >>>>>> shit >>>> Musketeers >>>>> Incarnate Genies

>>27368213

Wait, what the fuck is wrong with Yanmega?

>>27367216
>gen 5
>what they look like now
Anon, black and white were released 6 years ago. It hardly is an example of what legendaries look like now. Why not use S&M legendaries instead?

>>27367240
ylis taas vauhis :--__---D

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People criticizing >>27368642 are missing the point. It's not comparing the two Pokémon, but rather how they're rendered. It's not the design, but the execution. Pokémon designs HAVE changed since the nineties.

Again, see >>27368329.

That's cause the legendaries went from things like "fire bird" and "fire dog" to "LORD OF TIME AND SPACE AND MUSIC AND EMOTION"

>>27367732
Why the fuck did you put Lunaala instead of Xerneas?

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>this thread

>>27367216
>Top 3 legendaries is how they used to look like
>doesn't show bottom three as genies
JUST

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>>27367216
There's nothing "legendary" visually when it comes to the legendary birds. They might as well be fully-evolved three stage Pokemon.

Johto fixed this issue, thankfully.

Why are people so obsessed with "realism" in fucking Pokemon of all things?

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here is a chart for reference, you're welcome.

you can compare this to your own results to see how many you got wrong.

>>27369029
Gen 6 and 7 have the best looking birds by far even though cutiefly certainly isn't one. They also have the fewest which helps a lot

>>27368722
truth

>>27371751
see
>>27369015

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so what if i like big anime eyes and simplified limbs with no detail?

is there a rule saying i cant like gigantic flashing dragons?

did i miss the part where it isnt ok for me to fantasize sexually over a pokemon waifu?

look, times change, and people change with it. people dont want modest well thought out character design. our technology is so much more advanced now, we have more colors, and spikes, and wings and even more evolutions. Not taking advantage of this technology would be a huge waste of potential, something genwunners cant understand.

another point id like to make is society expects less from its youth these days as compared to the 90s. Whereas youre average child in the 90's would be riding bikes, or playing ball.. kids these days have more responsibilities and peer pressure put upon themselves wit hthe rise of social media. couple that with the fact that it is perfectly acceptable to be homosexual, and it isnt so bizarre that the pokemon design team chose the route it did.

whats wrong with pokemon being cute and simple? it is a game mostly intended for children afterall.
kinda a silly thing to get triggered over :c

>>27372241
Gen 6 > Gen 3 > Gen 2 > Gen 4 > Gen 1 > Gen 5

>>27369015
>>27372205
The trend did start in gen 2 with all the fucking baby Pokémon. What's your point?

The best comparison I feel is Eevee/Growlithe vs Zorua/Fennekin/Lillipup. There is a stark difference in the way their fur and limbs are rendered. Also Krabby vs Clauncher. The limbs are drawn extremely differently and you can tell.

It's not that people want Pokémon to look realistic. It's that they want them to FEEL realistic.

And again, this is not a bad change and preferring gen 1 isn't a bad thing. For reference, my favorite generation for designs is 4th gen.

>>27372367
Clauncher >>> Krabby

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>>27372367
No, even earlier than that.

> What's your point?
That the picture is autistic for putting "recent" Pokemon on the right side when there are perfectly good examples in second gen. Instead of Pidgey to Fletchling, or Raticate to Minccino, look at Pidgey to Hoothoot and Raticate to Furret.

Not mentioning how even first gen isn't extempted from it.

>>27372529
People complaining about seeing the white in newhorse's eyes that don't recall that Rattata had white in its eyes.

>>27372474
That's fine. I like Clauncher better as well.

>>27372529
Again the point wasn't for them to look realistic. Ratatta being a literal rat would be boring. People are unhappy that a modern-day Ratatta would be much less defined. Compare the anatomy of Meowth to Meowstic. They're both cartoony bipedal cats yet even with Meowth being exaggerated it still has individual digits as opposed to stubs.

>There are examples in second gen
But they're more pronounced in more recent gens. Fletchling is a worse case than Hoothoot as Hoothoot still has detail in its claw and I honestly don't think comparing Furret is fair when it's supposed to be a short-haired mammal and Raticate being mangy is kinda its whole thing (though the stubby limbs are fair) (no I'm not saying it's fair to compare Minccino to Raticate either)

I'm not saying gen 2 is exempt from criticism or anything, it's my least favorite gen in terms of design. If you want to use gen 2 Pokémon on the right side instead, go ahead. The point still stands.

>>27372241
Why didn't you include Hoopa,Volcanion,Diancie and Tapu Koko?

>>27368682
>a fucking llama stuck in a fence

I never played Gen IV, which one is that?

>>27373028
Arceus.

>>27368329
This guy gets it.

>>27367300
It's a blue chicken with a ribbon in its tail

>>27367416
i'd rather their design not be based on such a shitty gimmick

>>27367287
>STOP DISAGREEING WITH MEEE!!!
Don't start a thread if you can't handle people saying your opinions are shit.

>>27368366
Do people actually like the lake trio? They're pale-blue Mews with weird headwear basically.

And I never got the genie hate from most folks. Their therian forms are sick.

>>27368036
Yveltal and Xerneas were definitely big, spiky, flashing things.
And Lunaala and Solgaleo are following suit nicely, with extra emphasis on the big and flashing.