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Why have the starters been so bad after gen 4? Were the Sinnoh

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Why have the starters been so bad after gen 4? Were the Sinnoh starters just too good?
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Some have been alright.
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>>27340152
>Monkey, Fat Penguin, and a Grass Turtle
Here's your (you)
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>>27340152
I really like Gen 4 starters. Gen 1 and Gen 4 are good too. Gen 2 and 6 are alright. But that Gen 5...
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I like them all besides Delphox.
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>>27340168
you're a cunt gen IV is GOAT
also it doesn't say (you) if you reply to OP newfag
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>>27340175
(...)Gen 1 and Gen 3 I mean.
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>>27340181
SinnohFetus spotted
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Yeah I don't know, those were the last good starters we got. 5 gen were awful, gen 6 seemed promising until we got the terrible final evolutions. Not hopeful about gen 7 at all.
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>>27340168
>Sun Wukong, Fat Penguin, and the World Turtle
But seriously, what myth is Empoleon from?
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>>27340168
>Grass frog, red lizard with wings, turtle with water tap
>Gay dinosaur at a festival, rat on fire, blue alligator
>Fire chicken, kangaroo tree, whatever the fuck swampert is
>Green snake, boar on fire, otter with swords
>Ninja frog, mage fox, chestnut harambe

See I can generalise too, what's your point? Here's your actual (You) retard
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>>27340152
No Grass starter even compares to Torterra

Fire peaked with Charizard
Water peaked with Feraligatr

Infernape a shit.
Emboar forever a shit.
Fire/Fighting should not have happened three times - let alone in a row.

Blaziken, Torterra, Empoleon are the only good final evolutions past gen 2.. and Empoleon tentatively
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>>27340152
>infernape
>good
(you)
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>>27340217
Empoleon = Emporer Penquin + Napoleon
Also has a trident on its head referencing Poseidon, so it can be based on regality and leadership in general.
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>>27340152
I assume you're talking about competitive viability. If so, I'll have to disgree with Infernape and Empoleon. Both are very descent at battles, I don't know about Torterra since it has great tanky stats but GF shat on that by giving it a god awful, worthless HA. It really turned me off
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Implying that gen 2 starters were cool. :/

This is the correct order:
1. Gen I
2. Gen VI
3. Gen III
4. Gen II
5. Gen V
6. Gen IV
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>>27340326
(You)
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I like Infernape. Probably one of the first competitive0viable starters and for killing Skarmbliss.
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>>27340326
2>1>4=6=3>5
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5 > 3 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 1
fuck you
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4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Everything else
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>>27340341
>Skarmbliss
Stop thinking about gen 3, grandpa
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4>3>1>6>5>2 though 3, 1 and 6 are rather interchangeable
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>>27340341
>Probably one of the first competitive0viable starters and for killing Skarmbliss.
You were saying?
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What were the themes of the starters?
G1 - Reptiles
G2 - ???
G3 - Tropical animals
G4 - Mythical beings
G5 - Journey to the West characters?
G6 - RPG characters
G7 - Circus performers?
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>>27340414
The chicken fursuit had to get Speed Boost before it became good. Swampert was better before gen 5.
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>>27340326
2=3>4>1>6>5
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>>27340429
>salamander
>toad
>reptiles

>chicken
>tropical
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>>27340429
Gen 5 was Feudal Japan
Warlord, Samurai, Emperor
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>>27340385
This desu
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>>27340429
Gen 2 was purity
Gen 3 martial arts
Gen 5 was Royalty, (Western, Chinese, Jap)
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>>27340326
I>IV>III>II>>>>>>>>>>>VI>>>>>>>V

Gen 5 had great mons except the starters were dogshit.
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>>27340429
>Gen 1- Kaiju
>Gen 2- Simplicity/Purity
>Gen 3- Martial Arts
>Gen 4- Mythology
>Gen 5- Royalty
>Gen 6- RPG
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>>27340554
Purity??
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>>27341313
Very simple designs. No extraneous details. Single typing throughout evolutions.
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>>27340178
Too bad Alomomola ain't one, eh?
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Generation 6 Starter Pokemon were great
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>>27340942
>Gen 4- Mythology
So Infernape - Son Wukong. But what about the rest?
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>>27341779
Torterra- World Turtle
Empoleon- Poseidon
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>>27341829
Thanks
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>>27340152
>Penguin starter
>Doesnt go Water/Ice

Fucking REALLY?
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>>27340227
bait, lads.
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>>27342073
>dragon starter
>not Fire/Dragon until 20 years later
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>>27340326
III>VI>I>IV>II>V
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Gen IV and VI are the only gens where I actually like all the final evolutions of the starters. Usually I only end up liking one.
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>>27340225
>kangaroo tree
do you even gecko
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>>27340326
The correct order is:

subjective opinion>subjective opinion>subjective opinion>subjective opinion>subjective opinion>Gen V
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Gen I starters are the best.

Gen II gets honorable mention.
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>>27340152
sinnoh was the climax of the games honestly. it was time and space too, so no story of the traditional pokemon type can trump it
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>>27340227
agree somewhat, in fact a lot
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>>27343332
Gen 1-4 was like climbing up a mountain. Gen 5 was moving on to a different but uniquely intersting mountain and Gen 6 and 7 is another you climb when your passion for mountain climbing starts waning.
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>>27343418
honestly how ive seen it, 5 is going down the top of the first mountain but climbing to a seperate peak, 6 is going down the mountain and finding it tedious, 7 is {} perhaps a beach, where everyone gets angry at you, while you wonder where the mountain went, only to realize the mountain was an illusion
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>>27340152
The only decent starter in 4 was infernape

MAYBE Torterra
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>>27340326
I'm okay with gen IV having the most points
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>>27341829
But empoleon is based off Napoleon
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>>27340152
>Sinnoh Starters
>good
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>>27343546
Yes because he is an Emperor penguin. And his crown is shaped like a trident as an allusion to Poseidon, God of the Ocean. Pokemon can be various things.

>>27343566
What's bad about them
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Torterra is the patrician's taste.

Monferno is better than Infernape
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>>27340227
I disagree with your last line. Torterra, Sceptile and Swampert are the only good post-2nd gen final evolutions. I guess Greninja's alright too.

What were they thinking with making Emboar fire/fighting though, how could they think that was a good idea.
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>>27340181
Ok ok you guys are forgetting the main reason why the Gen 4 starters are bad, and that is because they have the WORST FUCKING FANBASE out of ANY GEN. This is because they mostly consist of butthurt 14 year olds who's first game was DPP and therefore those games have had the same effect on
them as Gen 1 has to Genwunners. This means they totally disregard any evidence that suggests newer gens might be better than Gen 4. An example would be that they ignore the fact that Greninja is leagues better than Empoleon, whether they like it or not.
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>>27343875
>they have the WORST FUCKING FANBASE out of ANY GEN.
This has nothing to do with whether the starters are objectively good or bad in comparison to others. Heres your (You).
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>>27343875
You wrote a paragraph to call something bad because you dont like the people who like them. Straight up kill yourself.
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>>27340326
4>3>1>6>5=2

Measuring all three fully evolved starters as a whole.
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>>27340152
Serperior and Greninja were good.
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>>27340178
I'm sure Luvdisc would be a better water starter
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